Chicago Aviation Thread - 2022

leftcoast8 · Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:23 pm

This is probably a dead horse subject, but I'm surprised ORD wasn't a candidate for A380 service. I'm sure there was enough O&D and connecting demand for the City of Chicago to shell out for more A380 gates.

tonytony · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:00 pm

There are one or two A380-fitted gates in T5. BA was flying a daily A380 pre-Covid. Not sure if it’s resuming?

jcwr56 · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:42 pm

leftcoast8 wrote:
This is probably a dead horse subject, but I'm surprised ORD wasn't a candidate for A380 service. I'm sure there was enough O&D and connecting demand for the City of Chicago to shell out for more A380 gates.

Not sure what this references, but T5 gets its 2nd A380 gate around September 10th in the east extension.

jcwr56 · Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:44 pm

Not mentioned in this thread but was posted on the ORD spotters page; Dubai1 (744) and Dubai7 (BBJ) arrived into ORD this morning.

Kbud · Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:13 pm

jcwr56 wrote:
leftcoast8 wrote:
This is probably a dead horse subject, but I'm surprised ORD wasn't a candidate for A380 service. I'm sure there was enough O&D and connecting demand for the City of Chicago to shell out for more A380 gates.

Not sure what this references, but T5 gets its 2nd A380 gate around September 10th in the east extension.

Also, BA had scheduled ORD A380 service before the pandemic, and will again this summer. The one A380 gate has been there for a few years and even tested by Emirates. But Emirates, Qatar, Lufthansa, and Korean never scheduled service with it. I’m actually surprised the 2nd gate will still happen knowing the A380 production line is dead and the 2-holers seem to be ruling commercial aviation with efficiencies.

schernov · Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:51 pm

Yea. When Emerates flew a380 to test that T5 gate, Swiss port chaps scratched the plane door.

se210 · Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:13 am

jcwr56 wrote:
Not mentioned in this thread but was posted on the ORD spotters page; Dubai1 (744) and Dubai7 (BBJ) arrived into ORD this morning.

A6-HRM (B747-422) parked at the Scenic Hold Pad off of Taxiway C3 (usually where VIP flights like AF1 park). A6-HEH (B737-8AJ BBJ2) parked at Signature/FBO.

Still at ORD as of 04/01/2022 05:00AM CDT
(Source: ADS-B Exchange Website)

jetblastdubai · Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:37 pm

se210 wrote:
Not mentioned in this thread but was posted on the ORD spotters page; Dubai1 (744) and Dubai7 (BBJ) arrived into ORD this morning.

Fun fact: meanwhile back in Dubai, DUB1 and the rest of rest of the royal fleet have their own terminal complete with 2 gates, dual jet bridges and an outdoor escalator between the two gates that is referred to locally as "the stairway to heaven".

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Dubai ... 55.3656728

scaledesigns · Fri Apr 01, 2022 5:49 pm

jcwr56 wrote:
Not mentioned in this thread but was posted on the ORD spotters page; Dubai1 (744) and Dubai7 (BBJ) arrived into ORD this morning.

It was sitting by the GRE yesterday where they normally put the broken cargo aircraft.

United787 · Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:51 pm

United787 wrote:
ORDfan wrote:
That's going to be quite interesting when completed - just from eye-balling, that's going to be quite a decline from the 294 ramp in Franklin Park down to airfield-level. I almost can't imagine it today.

Interesting is an understatement! You got me looking at this in more detail now.

Starting from I-90 headed south, I-490 will:

- need to bridge over the east detention basin
- go through the AA 191 crash site, right? That site seems to have never been developed
- go over Touhy where an interchange is proposed. Wonder if they will bridge Touhy over the r.r. tracks at the same time but not sure how that would happen since the river prevents them from going any lower
- get down to grade level by the time it gets to Old Higgins Road for Runway 9L/27R
- take out the corners of some industrial properties and a rectangular pond
- go up and over the r.r. tracks at about Devon
- get back down to grade before 9C/27C
- then connect with 390 over the r.r. tracks and York
- as it moves south it gets even more crazy since it has stay below 10R/28L but also get over the track and Irving Park and create an interchange with Irving Park...

Continuing my I-490 journey:

- I think it will have to go over the three sets of tracks closer to York so it is as far west of 10R/28L and two of those tracks are at grade level, the eastern (UP) tracks are elevated but dropping south
- if they sink the southern r.r. tracks (CP) below York, that would help and create one less grade crossing
- still seems like a cluster to have an interchange with Irving Park
- it looks like from there I-490 would head east running between Green St. and the r.r. yard
- but it would likely require the demo of Chicago Van Rentals, the post office and the Bensonville Police Department and a r.r. round table
- it would then turn south and go over the r.r. tracks (UP) again and Franklin before running south along the east side of the tracks in a newly cleared right-of-way
- another interchange at Franklin
- connecting to I-294...

amtravels · Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:15 pm

2E1AE3EF-8A3A-44CC-BD33-D8E1DF9D53A5.jpeg

Took this at ORD yesterday. Anyone know what #2 is?
1. 5G (?)
2. ???
3. Cisco wireless access point
4. 4G cellular antennas 1 for VZW 1 for Sprint or ATT

gabik001 · Sat Apr 02, 2022 1:33 am

amtravels wrote:
2E1AE3EF-8A3A-44CC-BD33-D8E1DF9D53A5.jpeg

Took this at ORD yesterday. Anyone know what #2 is?
1. 5G (?)
2. ???
3. Cisco wireless access point
4. 4G cellular antennas 1 for VZW 1 for Sprint or ATT

Can't see the picture...

Anyway was today at 6th floor parking near T1 to take a picture of Dubai Air Wing 747 and had a clear shot. Dubai BBJ was at Signature (west end) but obstructed by the fence. Also got few cool pictures of departing airplanes from 9C.

amtravels · Sat Apr 02, 2022 6:43 am

gabik001 wrote:
amtravels wrote:
2E1AE3EF-8A3A-44CC-BD33-D8E1DF9D53A5.jpeg

Took this at ORD yesterday. Anyone know what #2 is?
1. 5G (?)
2. ???
3. Cisco wireless access point
4. 4G cellular antennas 1 for VZW 1 for Sprint or ATT

Can't see the picture...

Anyway was today at 6th floor parking near T1 to take a picture of Dubai Air Wing 747 and had a clear shot. Dubai BBJ was at Signature (west end) but obstructed by the fence. Also got few cool pictures of departing airplanes from 9C.

Hmm… dumb question, but how do I post a pic of my own?

jcwr56 · Sat Apr 02, 2022 1:50 pm

scaledesigns wrote:
jcwr56 wrote:
Not mentioned in this thread but was posted on the ORD spotters page; Dubai1 (744) and Dubai7 (BBJ) arrived into ORD this morning.

It was sitting by the GRE yesterday where they normally put the broken cargo aircraft.

It was sitting for a couple of days. It's departing today from T5 and the 737 will depart from Signature.

gabik001 · Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:58 pm

amtravels wrote:
gabik001 wrote:
amtravels wrote:
2E1AE3EF-8A3A-44CC-BD33-D8E1DF9D53A5.jpeg

Took this at ORD yesterday. Anyone know what #2 is?
1. 5G (?)
2. ???
3. Cisco wireless access point
4. 4G cellular antennas 1 for VZW 1 for Sprint or ATT

Can't see the picture...

Anyway was today at 6th floor parking near T1 to take a picture of Dubai Air Wing 747 and had a clear shot. Dubai BBJ was at Signature (west end) but obstructed by the fence. Also got few cool pictures of departing airplanes from 9C.

Hmm… dumb question, but how do I post a pic of my own?

You have to use some image hosting website and then post a link here.

schernov · Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:08 pm

Flew into ORD T5 today on southwest.
Swissport could not get M2 gate to move. Apparently due to water leak which fried the control panel. Really? Isn't this a new gate?
Had to be pushed out and back to M1.

Subsequent experience of getting to outside and to ground level to domestic bag claim is total crap.

jcwr56 · Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:30 pm

schernov wrote:
Flew into ORD T5 today on southwest.
Swissport could not get M2 gate to move. Apparently due to water leak which fried the control panel. Really? Isn't this a new gate?
Had to be pushed out and back to M1.

Subsequent experience of getting to outside and to ground level to domestic bag claim is total crap.

Everyone agrees, The west rotunda is shut down for new doors and updating as part of the Delta move in. No one said it would be ideal with all the construction work going on and supply chain deliveries aren't helping the cause either.

M2 was closed Friday morning from 0600-0900 to repair the leak that was found. Did your experience happen after 0900 Friday?

schernov · Sun Apr 03, 2022 2:39 pm

I landed on Saturday at 5pm. M2 was dead.

What happened to the escalator from gate floor which took you down directly to domestic bag claim?
Aer Lingus used to use it.
We had to walk all the way to duty free and exit via check in and then downstairs.

yeogeo · Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:50 pm

By my count of the record, over the past 365 days N859GT has been inbound into O'Hare from ANC 144 times, operating day in and day out ORD-ANC-ICN-CKG-ANC-ORD.

Amazing workhorses, these 748's. The a/c above in its other life in Chongqing.

scaledesigns · Sun Apr 03, 2022 7:53 pm

N859GT from ORD started around January 15th 2021 after doing MIA to South America for 6 months. By the way, the Dubai 747 is still sitting at the GRE.

yeogeo · Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:18 pm

scaledesigns wrote:
N859GT from ORD started around January 15th 2021 after doing MIA to South America for 6 months. By the way, the Dubai 747 is still sitting at the GRE.

Interesting! I noticed all the MIA photos of the a/c in the database - but not one yet at O'Hare... Come on guys! :yell:

scaledesigns · Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:54 pm

I took a bunch of photos of the aircraft.

https://www.airlinefan.com/airline-phot ... T/1731651/

se210 · Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:14 am

se210 on 02/24/22 wrote:
Qatar Airways QR725 A7-BAC 777-3DZ/ER first time appearing at ORD in the new 25th anniversary retro colors (due in around 15:30 today). It was in the Toulouse - Blagnac (TLS) paint shop from 01/26/2022 to 02/16/2022.

Encore visit to ORD today (04/04/22) for A7-BAC. QR725 DOH-ORD due in at 15:18.

yeogeo · Mon Apr 04, 2022 12:25 pm

Bain Capital supported LCC startup Arajet has received permission from the Dominican Civil Aviation Board to fly to 30 destinations in the Americas from the Dominican Republic, including O'Hare. The airline plans flights starting in May of this year although flights to ORD have not yet been scheduled.

Factory-new 737MAX8’s will be their aircraft of choice.
All 30 routes are listed here (article in Spanish)
https://acento.com.do/el-financiero/con ... 46132.html

There is a thread on the subject:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1466687

ORD3 · Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:28 pm

The below link has a picture of a new hold room in T5:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-sipiora-39b06636/recent-activity/

Interestingly, the OP notes that the picture is from gates M10/M11, but the image appears to show a gate labeled as M13 (if my eyes aren't deceiving me). I'm not sure if I'm turned around or if this is part of the gate renumbering in T5.

Rl12383 · Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:21 pm

wow! What an improvement.. looks really good.

jcwr56 · Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:01 pm

ORD3 wrote:
The below link has a picture of a new hold room in T5:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-sipiora-39b06636/recent-activity/

Interestingly, the OP notes that the picture is from gates M10/M11, but the image appears to show a gate labeled as M13 (if my eyes aren't deceiving me). I'm not sure if I'm turned around or if this is part of the gate renumbering in T5.

This is M10 and M11 hold rooms. M8 and M9 will match and be tied together by June 1st.

AmricanShamrok · Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:37 pm

Wow, looks like a completely different terminal.

Don't know if it was previously reported here but Google Maps has updated its satellite view of ORD (which makes it easier to visualise the M10/11 hold room from the top down).

https://www.google.ie/maps/@41.9747531, ... a=!3m1!1e3

ORD3 · Tue Apr 05, 2022 4:39 pm

More pictures of the new M10/M11 hold rooms here:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/saaema/recent-activity/

glbltrvlr · Tue Apr 05, 2022 5:59 pm

AmricanShamrok wrote:
Wow, looks like a completely different terminal.

Don't know if it was previously reported here but Google Maps has updated its satellite view of ORD (which makes it easier to visualise the M10/11 hold room from the top down).

https://www.google.ie/maps/@41.9747531, ... a=!3m1!1e3

Also makes it easy to see how insane the presumably temporary jetway walk is at the end of the terminal.

United787 · Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:20 am

What is a “hold room”?

DL_Mech · Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:38 pm

Any updates on the AA191 crash site? I was unaware that a tollway was going to be built on the site and google maps shows substantial construction activity.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:A1uPPQWn4CMJ:https://chicago.suntimes.com/metro-state/2019/5/24/18637885/ohare-airport-western-access-tollway-planned-american-airlines-flight-191-crash+&cd=32&hl=en

ORD3 · Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:56 pm

United787 wrote:
What is a “hold room”?

Just a gate / waiting area for pax

emcm541 · Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:04 pm

DL_Mech wrote:
Any updates on the AA191 crash site? I was unaware that a tollway was going to be built on the site and google maps shows substantial construction activity.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:A1uPPQWn4CMJ:https://chicago.suntimes.com/metro-state/2019/5/24/18637885/ohare-airport-western-access-tollway-planned-american-airlines-flight-191-crash+&cd=32&hl=en

I was unaware of this article, so thank you positing. Others on this thread might know, but I haven't heard any mention of either relocating the memorial or doing a different type of memorial once the 490 ring is completed. It would be a total shame to just plow over the current memorial (for lack of a better phrase) and not do something.

This was posted upthread, but here's a link to the 490 project website by the tollway for reference: https://www.illinoistollway.com/documen ... 8085195489

piedmontf284000 · Wed Apr 06, 2022 7:35 pm

emcm541 wrote:
DL_Mech wrote:
Any updates on the AA191 crash site? I was unaware that a tollway was going to be built on the site and google maps shows substantial construction activity.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:A1uPPQWn4CMJ:https://chicago.suntimes.com/metro-state/2019/5/24/18637885/ohare-airport-western-access-tollway-planned-american-airlines-flight-191-crash+&cd=32&hl=en

I was unaware of this article, so thank you positing. Others on this thread might know, but I haven't heard any mention of either relocating the memorial or doing a different type of memorial once the 490 ring is completed. It would be a total shame to just plow over the current memorial (for lack of a better phrase) and not do something.

This was posted upthread, but here's a link to the 490 project website by the tollway for reference: https://www.illinoistollway.com/documen ... 8085195489

There is no memorial at the site of the actual crash. The memorial is at Lake Park located east of the crash site at Dee Rd and Touhy. It is in the southeast corner of the park.

ORD Boy 2 · Wed Apr 06, 2022 7:36 pm

emcm541 wrote:
DL_Mech wrote:
Any updates on the AA191 crash site? I was unaware that a tollway was going to be built on the site and google maps shows substantial construction activity.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:A1uPPQWn4CMJ:https://chicago.suntimes.com/metro-state/2019/5/24/18637885/ohare-airport-western-access-tollway-planned-american-airlines-flight-191-crash+&cd=32&hl=en

I was unaware of this article, so thank you positing. Others on this thread might know, but I haven't heard any mention of either relocating the memorial or doing a different type of memorial once the 490 ring is completed. It would be a total shame to just plow over the current memorial (for lack of a better phrase) and not do something.

This was posted upthread, but here's a link to the 490 project website by the tollway for reference: https://www.illinoistollway.com/documen ... 8085195489

The memorial is a few miles east in Des Plaines - https://www.dpparks.org/parks-facilitie ... -memorial/

ORD3 · Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:38 am

Updates on T5 gate renumbering below.

Are gates now going from M1-M31? I'd love to see pics of the new gate signage if anyone is passing through T5.

https://twitter.com/fly2ohare/status/1511804864975806469?s=20&t=nhK3TGmtgfIymg-gdPWspw

https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/doa/provdrs/dbata/news/2022/april/april62022.html

gabik001 · Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:19 pm

Just noticed that DUB1 (A6-HRM) just turned on transponder so it should depart anytime soon (now it is 6:15 pm). Not sure if second Dubai Airwing a/c will dapart in near hours. Weather didn't work at arrival and it's not working on departure...

gabik001 · Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:54 am

gabik001 wrote:
Just noticed that DUB1 (A6-HRM) just turned on transponder so it should depart anytime soon (now it is 6:15 pm). Not sure if second Dubai Airwing a/c will dapart in near hours. Weather didn't work at arrival and it's not working on departure...

She just went to T5 hard stand by Mannheim Rd and possibly will sit there till tomorrow.

jcwr56 · Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:21 pm

ORD3 wrote:
Updates on T5 gate renumbering below.

Are gates now going from M1-M31? I'd love to see pics of the new gate signage if anyone is passing through T5.

https://twitter.com/fly2ohare/status/1511804864975806469?s=20&t=nhK3TGmtgfIymg-gdPWspw

https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/doa/provdrs/dbata/news/2022/april/april62022.html

It will be M1-M40 when completed. The next set of gates will be renumbered around the 18th. M34/M35 go live on 5/31.

gabik001 · Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:40 am

Calm Air CAV731 an ATR-72-200 C-FJCQ just overflew my home after departure from ORD. Was wondering what this a/c was doing in Chicago...

se210 · Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:19 am

gabik001 wrote:
Calm Air CAV731 an ATR-72-200 C-FJCQ just overflew my home after departure from ORD. Was wondering what this a/c was doing in Chicago...

It looks like it was a charter for the Manitoba Moose from the AHL (American Hockey League). They have used Calm Air before.

They played the Milwaukee Admirals on April 6th and April 8th and the Chicago Wolves last night (April 9th). This appears to match up with the flights for C-FJCQ in the last couple of days, namely:

CAV730 YWG-MKE April 5th
CAV730 MKE-ORD April 7th - Positioning flight; assuming the team was bused down from Milwaukee to Chicago
CAV731 ORD-YWG April 9th/April 10th - Departed late; after game

For CAV731, while taxiing on DD at ORD, it looks it initially missed 10L and was headed for 10C, then turned around on DD, and eventually took off from 10L.

Source: ADS-B Exchange Website

gabik001 · Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:45 pm

It looks like. I heard a turboprop noise over my place that does not sound like beechcraft or cessna mostly like quiet C-130 so I checked FR24 but it was showing only AT73 a/c model without any other data. I run adsbexchange and then saw more details. Initially I was thinking about Mountain Air Cargo (FedEx) that sometimes visiting ORD but they used to fly on AT42.

kordcj · Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:42 pm

jcwr56 wrote:
ORD3 wrote:
Updates on T5 gate renumbering below.

Are gates now going from M1-M31? I'd love to see pics of the new gate signage if anyone is passing through T5.

https://twitter.com/fly2ohare/status/1511804864975806469?s=20&t=nhK3TGmtgfIymg-gdPWspw

https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/doa/provdrs/dbata/news/2022/april/april62022.html

It will be M1-M40 when completed. The next set of gates will be renumbered around the 18th. M34/M35 go live on 5/31.

Are there any plans to connect the new addons to outside or will passenger drop off/pickup/check in at the original T-5 area. Will that make for some serious traffic issues if it can’t be spread across the entire terminal face? With WN and DL ops, plus all the international flights, I’d imagine certain times of the day could be disastrous for the O&D passenger.

United787 · Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:33 pm

glbltrvlr wrote:
AmricanShamrok wrote:
Wow, looks like a completely different terminal.

Don't know if it was previously reported here but Google Maps has updated its satellite view of ORD (which makes it easier to visualise the M10/11 hold room from the top down).

https://www.google.ie/maps/@41.9747531, ... a=!3m1!1e3

Also makes it easy to see how insane the presumably temporary jetway walk is at the end of the terminal.

I flew into T5 last year and was parked at one of those far eastern spots. After getting off a long flight and then walking down that corridor, it was like a bad dream where the hallway kept getting longer and longer the more you walked.

Love finally seeing an updated Google satellite view.

One very noticeable change is the replaced glass/roof for T1. If you zoom in around gates B6/B7 you can see the difference.

Also interesting to see all of the planes parked because of the pandemic: in the deicing area; and on the former 14L/32R runway.

jcwr56 · Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:28 am

kordcj wrote:
jcwr56 wrote:
ORD3 wrote:
Updates on T5 gate renumbering below.

Are gates now going from M1-M31? I'd love to see pics of the new gate signage if anyone is passing through T5.

https://twitter.com/fly2ohare/status/1511804864975806469?s=20&t=nhK3TGmtgfIymg-gdPWspw

https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/doa/provdrs/dbata/news/2022/april/april62022.html

It will be M1-M40 when completed. The next set of gates will be renumbered around the 18th. M34/M35 go live on 5/31.

Are there any plans to connect the new addons to outside or will passenger drop off/pickup/check in at the original T-5 area. Will that make for some serious traffic issues if it can’t be spread across the entire terminal face? With WN and DL ops, plus all the international flights, I’d imagine certain times of the day could be disastrous for the O&D passenger.

It will be in the original T5 area. Granted for DL it will be easier for their passengers picking up at the domestic claims once they start operating at T5. For anyone else it's going upstream through the center of the food court and out the front via the departures level after July 20th, this is when M1-M6 gets closed for DL to take over for concourse reno. This summer is going to be challenging.

DL starts their ticket counter reno's on May 1st. So that means consolidations of the remaining carriers onto other positions that would normally be assigned there.

United787 · Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:12 pm

jcwr56 wrote:
It will be in the original T5 area. Granted for DL it will be easier for their passengers picking up at the domestic claims once they start operating at T5. For anyone else it's going upstream through the center of the food court and out the front via the departures level after July 20th, this is when M1-M6 gets closed for DL to take over for concourse reno. This summer is going to be challenging.

DL starts their ticket counter reno's on May 1st. So that means consolidations of the remaining carriers onto other positions that would normally be assigned there.

I thought T5's gates would be general use, is that not the case?

dopplerd · Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:58 pm

United787 wrote:
jcwr56 wrote:
It will be in the original T5 area. Granted for DL it will be easier for their passengers picking up at the domestic claims once they start operating at T5. For anyone else it's going upstream through the center of the food court and out the front via the departures level after July 20th, this is when M1-M6 gets closed for DL to take over for concourse reno. This summer is going to be challenging.

DL starts their ticket counter reno's on May 1st. So that means consolidations of the remaining carriers onto other positions that would normally be assigned there.

I thought T5's gates would be general use, is that not the case?

The short answer is: it's complicated. In the past they were common use but with the transition of carriers from Terminal 2, Delta mainly, there will be dedicated gates in T5. SWA has had pretty much exclusive use of M1-3 for for the past 6 months or so. I don't know if those are official SWA gates or it is just easier to keep them concentrated there due to the frequency they operate at. Frontier bounces around a lot, mainly in the high M gates, but they have much less frequency than SWA.

This isn't official info, just what I've observed around ORD. Others here likely have better insight about future plans.

jcwr56 · Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:38 pm

dopplerd wrote:
United787 wrote:
jcwr56 wrote:
It will be in the original T5 area. Granted for DL it will be easier for their passengers picking up at the domestic claims once they start operating at T5. For anyone else it's going upstream through the center of the food court and out the front via the departures level after July 20th, this is when M1-M6 gets closed for DL to take over for concourse reno. This summer is going to be challenging.

DL starts their ticket counter reno's on May 1st. So that means consolidations of the remaining carriers onto other positions that would normally be assigned there.

I thought T5's gates would be general use, is that not the case?

The short answer is: it's complicated. In the past they were common use but with the transition of carriers from Terminal 2, Delta mainly, there will be dedicated gates in T5. SWA has had pretty much exclusive use of M1-3 for for the past 6 months or so. I don't know if those are official SWA gates or it is just easier to keep them concentrated there due to the frequency they operate at. Frontier bounces around a lot, mainly in the high M gates, but they have much less frequency than SWA.

This isn't official info, just what I've observed around ORD. Others here likely have better insight about future plans.

No, it's not really complicated. At ORD, it's now either preferential or common use. There's no exclusive gates under the new lease. DL takes over the west concourse as their preferential gates come July 20th. As for SWA, M1-2 are pure domestic so it makes sense to have them there. This changes again on July 20th and then again on May 31st once the east side opens up M34/M35.

emcm541 · Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:11 pm

jcwr56 wrote:
kordcj wrote:
jcwr56 wrote:

It will be M1-M40 when completed. The next set of gates will be renumbered around the 18th. M34/M35 go live on 5/31.

Are there any plans to connect the new addons to outside or will passenger drop off/pickup/check in at the original T-5 area. Will that make for some serious traffic issues if it can’t be spread across the entire terminal face? With WN and DL ops, plus all the international flights, I’d imagine certain times of the day could be disastrous for the O&D passenger.

It will be in the original T5 area. Granted for DL it will be easier for their passengers picking up at the domestic claims once they start operating at T5. For anyone else it's going upstream through the center of the food court and out the front via the departures level after July 20th, this is when M1-M6 gets closed for DL to take over for concourse reno. This summer is going to be challenging.

DL starts their ticket counter reno's on May 1st. So that means consolidations of the remaining carriers onto other positions that would normally be assigned there.

Will there just be the 1 security area then? IIRC, there's no TSA precheck in T5 or if it was added, it's not been around for a while. Will there be any expansion/revamping of T5 security?

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