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ajsljet45 wrote:According to this TPG article written today (which has since disappeared), Breeze will begin service to the following from BDL
https://thepointsguy.com/news/breeze-ai ... h-florida/
Harford/Bradley International Airport, Connecticut (BDL)
* Phoenix: Twice-weekly flights (Thursday and Sunday) begin Feb. 9.
* Vero Beach, Florida: Daily service begins Feb. 15.
* Provo, Utah: One-stop, same-plane service begins Feb 9. Flights are twice weekly (Thursday and Sunday).
* San Bernardino, California: One-stop, same-plane service begins Feb 16. Flights are twice weekly (Thursday and Sunday).
HVNandrew wrote:ajsljet45 wrote:According to this TPG article written today (which has since disappeared), Breeze will begin service to the following from BDL
https://thepointsguy.com/news/breeze-ai ... h-florida/
Harford/Bradley International Airport, Connecticut (BDL)
* Phoenix: Twice-weekly flights (Thursday and Sunday) begin Feb. 9.
* Vero Beach, Florida: Daily service begins Feb. 15.
* Provo, Utah: One-stop, same-plane service begins Feb 9. Flights are twice weekly (Thursday and Sunday).
* San Bernardino, California: One-stop, same-plane service begins Feb 16. Flights are twice weekly (Thursday and Sunday).
Getting PHX back is big for BDL. PHX and SFO are the two biggest holes in BDL's network. I'd argue from a network connectivity standpoint the next biggest hole would be SLC, but I don't see DL adding that back anytime soon.
HVNandrew wrote:ajsljet45 wrote:According to this TPG article written today (which has since disappeared), Breeze will begin service to the following from BDL
https://thepointsguy.com/news/breeze-ai ... h-florida/
Harford/Bradley International Airport, Connecticut (BDL)
* Phoenix: Twice-weekly flights (Thursday and Sunday) begin Feb. 9.
* Vero Beach, Florida: Daily service begins Feb. 15.
* Provo, Utah: One-stop, same-plane service begins Feb 9. Flights are twice weekly (Thursday and Sunday).
* San Bernardino, California: One-stop, same-plane service begins Feb 16. Flights are twice weekly (Thursday and Sunday).
Getting PHX back is big for BDL. PHX and SFO are the two biggest holes in BDL's network. I'd argue from a network connectivity standpoint the next biggest hole would be SLC, but I don't see DL adding that back anytime soon.
O23 wrote:Does anyone think United will ever bring mainline back to PVD?
HVNandrew wrote:ajsljet45 wrote:According to this TPG article written today (which has since disappeared), Breeze will begin service to the following from BDL
https://thepointsguy.com/news/breeze-ai ... h-florida/
Harford/Bradley International Airport, Connecticut (BDL)
* Phoenix: Twice-weekly flights (Thursday and Sunday) begin Feb. 9.
* Vero Beach, Florida: Daily service begins Feb. 15.
* Provo, Utah: One-stop, same-plane service begins Feb 9. Flights are twice weekly (Thursday and Sunday).
* San Bernardino, California: One-stop, same-plane service begins Feb 16. Flights are twice weekly (Thursday and Sunday).
Getting PHX back is big for BDL. PHX and SFO are the two biggest holes in BDL's network. I'd argue from a network connectivity standpoint the next biggest hole would be SLC, but I don't see DL adding that back anytime soon.
PVD757 wrote:BDL-VRB is 2x weekly with some weeks at 3x and even more for April school vacation week but has been misreported as daily.
CairnterriAIR wrote:PVD757 wrote:BDL-VRB is 2x weekly with some weeks at 3x and even more for April school vacation week but has been misreported as daily.
As long as the flight is operated reliably…no cancellations….the BDL-VRB route will do well. Lots of people with second homes in Vero, Ft.Pierce, Port St Lucy, Jensen Beach, and Stuart.
VS4ever wrote:CairnterriAIR wrote:PVD757 wrote:BDL-VRB is 2x weekly with some weeks at 3x and even more for April school vacation week but has been misreported as daily.
As long as the flight is operated reliably…no cancellations….the BDL-VRB route will do well. Lots of people with second homes in Vero, Ft.Pierce, Port St Lucy, Jensen Beach, and Stuart.
Having used to work in Port St Lucie, the drive up from PBI sucked, so for those wanting to get there. I agree VRB will be much better.
CairnterriAIR wrote:VS4ever wrote:CairnterriAIR wrote:
As long as the flight is operated reliably…no cancellations….the BDL-VRB route will do well. Lots of people with second homes in Vero, Ft.Pierce, Port St Lucy, Jensen Beach, and Stuart.
Having used to work in Port St Lucie, the drive up from PBI sucked, so for those wanting to get there. I agree VRB will be much better.
Getting up the airport in Vero from PSL is easy. Just go north on US1 into Vero. Go past Cindi’s Pet and Aquarium, the past the mall. When you get to Mike’s Cut Rate Furniture, bang a left on Aviation BLVD. Grab a hot dog at the food truck on the corner, and pull into the airport parking lot.
mjgbtv wrote:For those interested in the equipment side of things, UA flew a MAX 8 from EWR to BTV today. Unless I have not been paying sufficient attention this was the first MAX to come to BTV.
mjgbtv wrote:BTVB6Flyer wrote:BTV's new expansion opens 10/11/22. https://www.facebook.com/FlyBTV
I still can't for the life of me visualize how this looks or flows, so I guess will need to see in person. You can see last couple of pictures the floor is higher than the tail of a 737, so you go down a floor to board?
Due to hurricane Ian, I had to cancel my trip to VT this past week so couldn't check out the new additions or consolidated TSA. And also no new route for me MSP-BTV, merp.
The new screening area is on the ground level. You pass through in a generally southward direction away from the check in counters. Then if you are leaving from the south concourse you make a U-turn and go back past the security lanes and end up pretty much where you exit the south concourse security now. If you are leaving from the north concourse you go upstairs after security, head northward out of the new addition and I believe you eventually end up taking the same route as if you use the shipping container ramp now.
Revelation wrote:Signed in for the first time in a long time to say MHT is pretty much dead to me, even though it's still a far more convenient option for ground transportation.
My last few trips have been using the Boston Express bus. Fares are reasonable, $32 round trip per head, car parking is free. Not driving takes a lot of the stress out of the equation for me. The bus is quite comfortable, more comfortable than the airplane. MHT long term parking is $14 which adds up quick. The only down side is a bunch of dead time depending on how much of a gamble you want to take on Boston traffic and security lines, but these days we can all be conservative and just sit there with our phones or laptops and keep ourselves entertained and/or productive.
On the airport side, I used to be able to get nonstops from MHT to TPA where my mom lives, but can't find them any more. Meanwhile DL has nonstops at convenient times BOS-TPA with free advance seat selection. Bags do not fly free, but you can use miles to pay for bags, and even with just a few trips I have enough miles in the account to pay for the times I want to bring a bag.
I'm sure none of this is news to anyone who has been watching, but still, it's a shame. I want MHT to survive and thrive, but the product on offer isn't very compelling. I really prefer non-stops and certainly am not going to take a risk getting stuck at a hub during Thanksgiving Week.
O23 wrote:Seeing a United A319 twice in a week now on the late night/early morning ORD-PVD. Never thought I’d see mainline back, is this an anomaly?
O23 wrote:Frontier ending all PVD service next year.
lat41 wrote:O23 wrote:Frontier ending all PVD service next year.
Since F9's Northeast route haircut a few months ago, they did not have much product to sell at PVD. That plus the systemwide revolving door of routes that come and go did not help. We'll see how the majors, Breeze or even Avelo react.
PVD523 wrote:lat41 wrote:O23 wrote:Frontier ending all PVD service next year.
Since F9's Northeast route haircut a few months ago, they did not have much product to sell at PVD. That plus the systemwide revolving door of routes that come and go did not help. We'll see how the majors, Breeze or even Avelo react.
Sucks to see the loss of any airline but unfortunately I feel like the writing was on the wall. The last few winters they’ve offered a mix of PVD-MCO, TPA, RSW, FLL, with CUN joining the group this past winter. When they cut their winter schedules to just MCO and FLL, less than daily to boot, it seemed like they weren’t long for PVD.
BlueBaller wrote:PVD523 wrote:lat41 wrote:Since F9's Northeast route haircut a few months ago, they did not have much product to sell at PVD. That plus the systemwide revolving door of routes that come and go did not help. We'll see how the majors, Breeze or even Avelo react.
Sucks to see the loss of any airline but unfortunately I feel like the writing was on the wall. The last few winters they’ve offered a mix of PVD-MCO, TPA, RSW, FLL, with CUN joining the group this past winter. When they cut their winter schedules to just MCO and FLL, less than daily to boot, it seemed like they weren’t long for PVD.
https://turnto10.com/news/local/frontie ... n-republic
This article mentions 2x weekly charter service PVD-SDQ starting next month lasting thru the holiday season. There’s been growing interest in the PVD-Dominican Republic market in the last few years, including Sun Country’s PVD-PUJ which got stunted due to COVID. With the substantial DR diaspora in the Providence metro area this should do well. I think the only reason JetBlue hasn’t started this service is it would cannibalize the highly protected Boston op.
chrisnh wrote:Is PWM likely to suffer the same fate as PVD with respect to Frontier?
lat41 wrote:chrisnh wrote:Is PWM likely to suffer the same fate as PVD with respect to Frontier?
F9 is thinning or quitting quite a few cities. Could some of the reason be they would rather steer clear of the eventual merged JetBlue -Spirit combo? Start-change-stop routes, start 'em up again did not help Frontier and in the end their piece of the Southern New England pie was not too significant.
lat41 wrote:chrisnh wrote:Is PWM likely to suffer the same fate as PVD with respect to Frontier?
F9 is thinning or quitting quite a few cities. Could some of the reason be they would rather steer clear of the eventual merged JetBlue -Spirit combo? Start-change-stop routes, start 'em up again did not help Frontier and in the end their piece of the Southern New England pie was not too significant.
chrisnh wrote:Is PWM likely to suffer the same fate as PVD with respect to Frontier?
rove312 wrote:Frontier pulls out of BTV:
https://vtdigger.org/2022/11/30/frontie ... urlington/
rove312 wrote:Frontier pulls out of BTV:
https://vtdigger.org/2022/11/30/frontie ... urlington/
paysonmt77 wrote:F9 will not pull out of PWM.
paysonmt77 wrote:F9 is the only game in town for PWM to MCO and they fill the planes both to RDU and MCO. Will SWA add MCO? no.
jplatts wrote:paysonmt77 wrote:F9 is the only game in town for PWM to MCO and they fill the planes both to RDU and MCO. Will SWA add MCO? no.
Here were the number of passengers, number of seats, and load factors for F9 PWM-TPA in March 2022:
3988 passengers, 4266 seats, 93.48% load factor
PWM can support WN nonstop service to TPA on at least a seasonal, Saturday-only basis with the amount of demand that is there to TPA from PWM along with PWM no longer having any nonstop service to TPA.
WN adding PWM-DEN nonstop service is also a possibility with WN still having plans to significantly expand at DEN.
WN is still facing pilot shortages, and there are still some other routes previously served nonstop by WN that haven't yet seen WN nonstop service restored due to the pilot shortages that WN is facing.
BTVB6Flyer wrote:It won't be B6, they've tried it before and fly token service to JFK as is. If BTV regains Florida service, it will certainly be either Avelo or Breeze.
RL757PVD wrote:WN can barely sustain MDW at PWM, what makes you think they will try DEN? You'll see year round, MDW with 2x in the summer for years, before they will add PWM-DEN as a 3rd carrier (with the exception being the possibility of a seasonal sat only)
mjgbtv wrote:IMO the route needs smaller aircraft and more frequency than what Allegiant and Frontier offered. I'm holding out hope for Breeze.
jvlmd81 wrote:Breeze will start PVD to CVG LAX CMH nonstops dome breeze thru flight also added ie Orange County