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SunsetLimited wrote:DL - daily SEA with A220
SunsetLimited wrote:UA- return of LAX now that AA has seemingly left the market
SunsetLimited wrote:WN - bring back OAK, RDU
SunsetLimited wrote:NK - bring back AUS, BNA, BOS
SunsetLimited wrote:MX
SunsetLimited wrote:AS - second seasonal SEA gets extended to year-round
SunsetLimited wrote:F9 - try out a twice-weekly SJU
SunsetLimited wrote:G4 - status quo
SunsetLimited wrote:BA - add a 5th weekly frequency before the year ends
SunsetLimited wrote:CM - actually restore service in November like it says on their website
SunsetLimited wrote:DE - announce a return for summer 2023
william wrote:Any plans to buy out the commercial businesses in front of the new terminal. Not a pleasing sight when one arrives into New Orleans. I guess over time, hotels and other travel related businesses could buy them out. Or put the CONRAD there.
william wrote:Any plans to buy out the commercial businesses in front of the new terminal. Not a pleasing sight when one arrives into New Orleans. I guess over time, hotels and other travel related businesses could buy them out. Or put the CONRAD there.
SunsetLimited wrote:Great news about the BA frequency increase.
What are your 2022 predictions and/or wishes for MSY? Here are a few of mine…
AA - second PHX; continued upgauge to 321 on more flights.
DL - daily SEA with A220
UA- return of LAX now that AA has seemingly left the market
WN - bring back OAK, RDU
NK - bring back AUS, BNA, BOS
MX - PVD, PIT, and a couple of western markets added with the new A220
B6 - with 2X LGA already announced, that should be it for this year
AS - second seasonal SEA gets extended to year-round
F9 - try out a twice-weekly SJU
G4 - status quo
SY - status quo
AC - just start up again
TS - hopefully they find success again and extend to year- round service
BA - add a 5th weekly frequency before the year ends
CM - actually restore service in November like it says on their website
DE - announce a return for summer 2023
NolaMD88fan wrote:Also, all of the concessions finally reopen in the terminal (including the Smoothie King)
flyPIT wrote:Surprised this hasn’t been mentioned here yet; BA taking another hiatus. Service scheduled to resume by May.
NolaMD88fan wrote:October 2021 domestic and July 2021 international load factors and passenger numbers by route have been calculated.
NK started flying to CUN and SAP in July, and the routes did decently with loads near 70% on both routes. SAP is flown 3x weekly and CUN is flown 4x weekly. .
July International route seat count(% change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change):
Airline............Seats.........Pax...........LF
NK.................9,788.........6,834.......69.6%
WN................1,430.........1,326.......92.7%
WG................1,800.........1,025.......56.9%.
As compared to October 2020, airport-wide domestic seat count rose by 75.4%, and domestic pax traffic increased by 111.5% resulting in a 20.5% increase in load factors to 74.7%.
The route with the highest load factor in September was AA's MSY-PHL route with a 90.6% load factor. The route with the lowest load factor was WN's MSY-IAH route with a 32.1% load factor. WN reinstated several routes that were cut during the pandemic including SAT, MCI, DCA. OKC is a new destination that started in response to MX. It had a 72.4% load factor for the month, so we will see if it sticks.
Breeze (MX) did not report any data to the government for the month of October.
October Domestic route seat count(% change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change):
Airline............Seats..............................Pax..........................LF
3M..................1,142..............................698........................61.1%
AA..............195,629(+89.6%).........157,207(+87.1%)........80.4%(-1.3%)
AS................10,884(+3.0%)...............7,470(+44.3%)........68.6%(+19.6%)
B6.................44,712(+297.9%)........26,821(+441.7%).......60.0%(+36.1%)
DL..............138,176(+46.8%).........104,189(+127.5%).......75.4%(+54.9%)
F9.................29,152(+47.0%)..........20,432(+84.7%).........70.1%(+25.7%)
G4..................8,754(+33.7%)............5,335(+82.4).............60.9%(+36.4%)
NK..............110,090(+72.1%)..........80,520(+71.8%).........73.1%(-0.2%)
SY..................3,438(16.0%)..............1,729(-19.1%)...........50.3%(-3.6%)
UA..............138,351(+96.6%)........107,031(+111.1%)........77.4%(+7.4%)
WN.............392,248(+72.5%)........289,789(+131.4%).......73.9%(+34.2%)
International
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19MtMvo1Tg88CVQKmbR8i2TqnbK1fWqgixGmPviewVZw/edit?usp=sharing
Domestic
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zx1l3b1yQKyz5yRYvlM7Q2RDnkXkW8SFwSHCml4ski4/edit?usp=sharing
jbs2886 wrote:Wow, DL is now 3rd of the US3 legacies...its gone from 1st to 3rd with UA overtaking it on passengers.
jbs2886 wrote:
Wow, DL is now 3rd of the US3 legacies...its gone from 1st to 3rd with UA overtaking it on passengers.
SunsetLimited wrote:AV - TACA makes a comeback to MSY, from SAL.What are your 2022 predictions and/or wishes for MSY?
NolaMD88fan wrote:Breeze finally sent their data to the government. I have calculated the year to date and monthly load factors for each route. No surprise why HSV was cut so early. CHS, RIC, and ORF are the strongest routes in terms of loads with XNA and CMH just a bit behind. No shocker that OKC, TUL, and CAK were or will be cut. SDF has competition from G4, and I believe it is also getting cut.
Destination......Jul LF....Aug LF....Sep LF....Oct LF....Nov LF....YTD LF
CAK....................41.4%...42.0%......16.1%.....33.1%.....42.2%......34.8%
CHS....................45.2%...37.4%......31.0%.....61.4%.....69.7%......50.6%
CMH...................51.4%...33.3%......26.0%.....52.0%.....53.1%.....43.8%
HSV....................31.6%...17.7%........N/A.........N/A.........N/A........25.2%
OKC....................37.3%...24.4%......17.2%.....35.1%.....48.5%......32.1%
ORF....................56.2%...45.7%......21.8%.....45.3%.....56.1%......45.8%
RIC.....................57.8%...45.8%......23.5%.....55.9%.....65.8%......50.5%
SDF....................43.4%...28.3%......18.5%.....50.2%.....46.9%......36.0%
TUL....................35.3%...23.9%......16.2%.....30.3%.....40.1%......29.3%
XNA...................39.3%...26.7%......28.8%.....48.3%.....61.2%......39.6%
I also looked at which stations have the highest performance for Breeze, and the standout stations are TPA (shocker), PVD, BDL, RIC, and ORF. I think routes to PVD and BDL would both perform decently from here given the strong demand these stations generate to all of their markets. PIT is a bit of underperforming station, and that surprised me. CHS has some good routes and some really bad routes much like MSY.
Nola wrote:Condor is having a large US expansion, but not coming back to MSY.
https://onemileatatime.com/news/condor- ... expansion/
msycajun wrote:It's unfortunate that some of these routes did not have the benefit of a strong inbound tourism season to prove themselves. We have to remember that Breeze started up with very little notice and not a ton of advertising in their first few months (which are typically weak for MSY) and then Hurricane Ida and the Delta surge really dampened the fall demand. The routes that performed well either have some outbound leisure draw (e.g. CHS, XNA) or business ties (SDF, RIC, ORF). It would have been interesting to see if OKC/TUL and CAK/CMH were cannibalizing each other. I'd suspect that running one or the other at 3-4 weekly might do better than 2 weekly each, especially when you've got competition on NK to CMH and WN to OKC.
NolaMD88fan wrote:Breeze finally sent their data to the government. I have calculated the year to date and monthly load factors for each route. No surprise why HSV was cut so early. CHS, RIC, and ORF are the strongest routes in terms of loads with XNA and CMH just a bit behind. No shocker that OKC, TUL, and CAK were or will be cut. SDF has competition from G4, and I believe it is also getting cut.
Destination......Jul LF....Aug LF....Sep LF....Oct LF....Nov LF....YTD LF
CAK....................41.4%...42.0%......16.1%.....33.1%.....42.2%......34.8%
CHS....................45.2%...37.4%......31.0%.....61.4%.....69.7%......50.6%
CMH...................51.4%...33.3%......26.0%.....52.0%.....53.1%.....43.8%
HSV....................31.6%...17.7%........N/A.........N/A.........N/A........25.2%
OKC....................37.3%...24.4%......17.2%.....35.1%.....48.5%......32.1%
ORF....................56.2%...45.7%......21.8%.....45.3%.....56.1%......45.8%
RIC.....................57.8%...45.8%......23.5%.....55.9%.....65.8%......50.5%
SDF....................43.4%...28.3%......18.5%.....50.2%.....46.9%......36.0%
TUL....................35.3%...23.9%......16.2%.....30.3%.....40.1%......29.3%
XNA...................39.3%...26.7%......28.8%.....48.3%.....61.2%......39.6%
I also looked at which stations have the highest performance for Breeze, and the standout stations are TPA (shocker), PVD, BDL, RIC, and ORF. I think routes to PVD and BDL would both perform decently from here given the strong demand these stations generate to all of their markets. PIT is a bit of underperforming station, and that surprised me. CHS has some good routes and some really bad routes much like MSY.
BTVB6Flyer wrote:By chance do you have a link or can post the TPA numbers?
msycajun wrote:I hadn't seen this mentioned anywhere, but it looks like Silver is increasing JAX to 4 weekly (Sunday, Monday, Thursday, Friday) for April through July 4. I've seen rumors that Breeze may be announcing JAX soon, so maybe it's a preemptive add.
msycajun wrote:MSY-JAX on Breeze is official now, Mon/Fri, starting May 27. Also seeing "Breezethru" being offered for MSY-RIC-BDL/PVD, so maybe testing those waters as well. Would like to have seen RSW added in this latest expansion, but didn't expect much given the summer lull here. Hopefully we'll see more dots connected in the fall.
NolaMD88fan wrote:Was really expecting to see either BDL or PIT added. Surprised they are flying JAX with competition already on the route. RSW has not been flown by any airline.
Silverstreak wrote:Are there any areas around MSY to watch planes land and take off? I live in Lafayette and I don’t think there is much to look at or anywhere to view planes.
NolaMD88fan wrote:November 2021 domestic and August 2021 international load factors and passenger numbers by route have been calculated.
msycajun wrote:Looks like Breeze extended their schedule into November. Doesn't appear to be great for MSY - CAK, CMH, and ORF don't seem to make it past September. That's puzzling as ORF was one of their best routes and CAK and CMH have been doing very well recently. In fact all of the Sunday MSY-CAK flights in April seem to be sold out. Hopefully they'll get added back if staffing and fleet issues improve.
On the bright side they are planning MSY-PBI on Thursday and Sunday in the fall, which should do much better than the current Saturday only service.
NolaMD88fan wrote:but traffic levels still remained 40.9% below 2019.
Nola wrote:Breeze Will Now Offer 9 Nonstop Destinations from MSY
LAX772LR wrote:Nola wrote:Breeze Will Now Offer 9 Nonstop Destinations from MSY
...isn't that more or less what they started off with?