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NolaMD88fan
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:54 pm

May 2022 domestic and February 2022 international load factors and passenger numbers by route have been calculated.

February international route seat count(% change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change):

Airline............Seats.........Pax...........LF
NK...............10,192........3,776.........37.0%

As compared to May 2021, airport-wide domestic seat count rose by 31.8%, and domestic pax traffic increased by 34.1% resulting in a 1.8% increase in load factors to 85.8%.

The route with the highest load factor in May was WN's MSY-LAS route with a 95.7% load factor. The route with the lowest load factor was NK's MSY-CMH route with a 43.8% load factor. F9 restarted the RDU flight and it had a load factor of 90.9%. SY also restarted their seasonal service to MSP, and the flight was 78.9% full.

May Domestic route seat count(% change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change):

Airline............Seats..............................Pax..........................LF
3M..................2,088...........................1,666........................79.8%
AA..............197,794(+5.8%)...........177,129(+6.1%)...........89.5%(+0.3%)
AS..................8,596(-23.3%).............8,020(-10.2%)...........93.3%(+13.7%)
B6.................57,092(+229.9%).........44,815(+226.4%)......78.5%(-1.1%)
DL..............178.060(+12.7%).........160,559(+27.4%).........90.2%(+13.1%)
F9.................23,980(+7.4%)............18,699(+5.3%)...........78.0%(-2.0%)
G4..................4,668(-28.2%)..............3,835(-8.8%)............82.2%(+27.0%)
MX................15,768..........................10,902.......................69.1%
NK..............144,075(+5.1%)...........117,989(+4.0%)...........81.9%(-1.0%)
SY..................6,600(+97.1%).............5,211(+113.9%)........78.9%(+8.5%)
UA..............178,553(+60.0%).........151,575(+66.2%).........84.9%(+3.9%)
WN.............465,539(+45.9%).........399,810(+45.0%).........85.9%(-.0.6%)

International

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

Domestic

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:27 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
May 2022 domestic and February 2022 international load factors and passenger numbers by route have been calculated.

February international route seat count(% change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change):

Airline............Seats.........Pax...........LF
NK...............10,192........3,776.........37.0%

As compared to May 2021, airport-wide domestic seat count rose by 31.8%, and domestic pax traffic increased by 34.1% resulting in a 1.8% increase in load factors to 85.8%.

The route with the highest load factor in May was WN's MSY-LAS route with a 95.7% load factor. The route with the lowest load factor was NK's MSY-CMH route with a 43.8% load factor. F9 restarted the RDU flight and it had a load factor of 90.9%. SY also restarted their seasonal service to MSP, and the flight was 78.9% full.

May Domestic route seat count(% change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change):

Airline............Seats..............................Pax..........................LF
3M..................2,088...........................1,666........................79.8%
AA..............197,794(+5.8%)...........177,129(+6.1%)...........89.5%(+0.3%)
AS..................8,596(-23.3%).............8,020(-10.2%)...........93.3%(+13.7%)
B6.................57,092(+229.9%).........44,815(+226.4%)......78.5%(-1.1%)
DL..............178.060(+12.7%).........160,559(+27.4%).........90.2%(+13.1%)
F9.................23,980(+7.4%)............18,699(+5.3%)...........78.0%(-2.0%)
G4..................4,668(-28.2%)..............3,835(-8.8%)............82.2%(+27.0%)
MX................15,768..........................10,902.......................69.1%
NK..............144,075(+5.1%)...........117,989(+4.0%)...........81.9%(-1.0%)
SY..................6,600(+97.1%).............5,211(+113.9%)........78.9%(+8.5%)
UA..............178,553(+60.0%).........151,575(+66.2%).........84.9%(+3.9%)
WN.............465,539(+45.9%).........399,810(+45.0%).........85.9%(-.0.6%)

International

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

Domestic

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing


Why did AS decrease seats 20%? That is, did they drop a flight?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:06 am

Air Transat suspending Montreal-New Orleans. https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/220826-tsnw22cxld

I wonder if AC keeps their addition or now that Air Transat is gone (temporarily?) they’ll move resources elsewhere.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:28 am

jbs2886 wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
May 2022 domestic and February 2022 international load factors and passenger numbers by route have been calculated.

February international route seat count(% change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change):

Airline............Seats.........Pax...........LF
NK...............10,192........3,776.........37.0%

As compared to May 2021, airport-wide domestic seat count rose by 31.8%, and domestic pax traffic increased by 34.1% resulting in a 1.8% increase in load factors to 85.8%.

The route with the highest load factor in May was WN's MSY-LAS route with a 95.7% load factor. The route with the lowest load factor was NK's MSY-CMH route with a 43.8% load factor. F9 restarted the RDU flight and it had a load factor of 90.9%. SY also restarted their seasonal service to MSP, and the flight was 78.9% full.

May Domestic route seat count(% change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change):

Airline............Seats..............................Pax..........................LF
3M..................2,088...........................1,666........................79.8%
AA..............197,794(+5.8%)...........177,129(+6.1%)...........89.5%(+0.3%)
AS..................8,596(-23.3%).............8,020(-10.2%)...........93.3%(+13.7%)
B6.................57,092(+229.9%).........44,815(+226.4%)......78.5%(-1.1%)
DL..............178.060(+12.7%).........160,559(+27.4%).........90.2%(+13.1%)
F9.................23,980(+7.4%)............18,699(+5.3%)...........78.0%(-2.0%)
G4..................4,668(-28.2%)..............3,835(-8.8%)............82.2%(+27.0%)
MX................15,768..........................10,902.......................69.1%
NK..............144,075(+5.1%)...........117,989(+4.0%)...........81.9%(-1.0%)
SY..................6,600(+97.1%).............5,211(+113.9%)........78.9%(+8.5%)
UA..............178,553(+60.0%).........151,575(+66.2%).........84.9%(+3.9%)
WN.............465,539(+45.9%).........399,810(+45.0%).........85.9%(-.0.6%)

International

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

Domestic

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing


Why did AS decrease seats 20%? That is, did they drop a flight?


They might have flown a 2nd flight a few days last year, but I'm not sure if that was the case.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:31 am

jbs2886 wrote:
Air Transat suspending Montreal-New Orleans. https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/220826-tsnw22cxld

I wonder if AC keeps their addition or now that Air Transat is gone (temporarily?) they’ll move resources elsewhere.


The new AC service to YUL is directly related to the new UA/AC joint venture. That should keep the flight around. They effectively drove off TS in multiple markets. In fact, other than SFO, TS is back to only Florida transborder flights from YUL.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:15 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
May 2022 domestic and February 2022 international load factors and passenger numbers by route have been calculated.

February international route seat count(% change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change):

Airline............Seats.........Pax...........LF
NK...............10,192........3,776.........37.0%

Thanks for posting these. I can't recall, did BA, WN, TS, cut their flights in Feb or was there a data issue do you think?

Domestically, NK's TPA route also stuck out as been surprisingly low in seats and pax. That's usually a strong route for them.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:31 pm

BA, WN, and TS did not serve MSY in Feb. As the Omicron variant raged.

I was surprised by the big decline in capacity on NKs TPA route too. Not sure what drove that change. NK seems to be bouncing slower than the other carriers. Pre-pandemic they were larger than UA.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:45 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
BA, WN, and TS did not serve MSY in Feb. As the Omicron variant raged.

I was surprised by the big decline in capacity on NKs TPA route too. Not sure what drove that change. NK seems to be bouncing slower than the other carriers. Pre-pandemic they were larger than UA.


They posted a loss last quarter when most of their competitors were way ahead in the black. Their business model has its limits, including the number of people willing to pay bare $39 fares for uncomfortable seats and a la carte charges for seat assignments, carryons, etc.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Aug 26, 2022 11:01 pm

airplaneboy wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
BA, WN, and TS did not serve MSY in Feb. As the Omicron variant raged.

I was surprised by the big decline in capacity on NKs TPA route too. Not sure what drove that change. NK seems to be bouncing slower than the other carriers. Pre-pandemic they were larger than UA.


They posted a loss last quarter when most of their competitors were way ahead in the black. Their business model has its limits, including the number of people willing to pay bare $39 fares for uncomfortable seats and a la carte charges for seat assignments, carryons, etc.


I don’t think demand and revenue is their problem, it’s operations and costs.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Aug 26, 2022 11:19 pm

jbs2886 wrote:
airplaneboy wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
BA, WN, and TS did not serve MSY in Feb. As the Omicron variant raged.

I was surprised by the big decline in capacity on NKs TPA route too. Not sure what drove that change. NK seems to be bouncing slower than the other carriers. Pre-pandemic they were larger than UA.


They posted a loss last quarter when most of their competitors were way ahead in the black. Their business model has its limits, including the number of people willing to pay bare $39 fares for uncomfortable seats and a la carte charges for seat assignments, carryons, etc.


I don’t think demand and revenue is their problem, it’s operations and costs.


That’s just it. Revenue and demand can’t cover operations and costs, lol. Look at F9, they barely posted a profit with the same operating model. The NK and F9 model requires constant growth to help produce better numbers. And they’ve run into cost problems because they can’t retain qualified labor (pilots especially). And as a result, their ability to grow quickly has slowed.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:46 pm

Terrible, can't even imagine.

26-year-old baggage handler killed in accident at New Orleans airport
The woman's hair became entangled in the belt loader, according to her employer.
https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/ ... c0ec9.html
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Thu Sep 01, 2022 3:12 am

bretonrlong wrote:
Terrible, can't even imagine.

26-year-old baggage handler killed in accident at New Orleans airport
The woman's hair became entangled in the belt loader, according to her employer.
https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/ ... c0ec9.html


Simply awful.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:01 am

June 2022 domestic and March 2022 international load factors and passenger numbers by route have been calculated.

March international route seat count(% change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change):

Airline............Seats.........Pax...........LF
NK...............10,920........5,519.........50.5%
WN..................858............609.........71.0%

As compared to June 2021, airport-wide domestic seat count rose by 21.4%, and domestic pax traffic increased by 26.0% resulting in a 3.8% increase in load factors to 87.0%.

The route with the highest load factor in June was AS's MSY-SEA route with a 95.5% load factor. The route with the lowest load factor was MX's MSY-PBI route with a 57.4% load factor.

June Domestic route seat count(% change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change):

Airline............Seats..............................Pax..........................LF
3M..................1,948(+73.9%).............1,610(+81.1%).........82.6%(+4.1%)
AA..............192,466(+6.6%)...........172,377(+7.2%)...........89.6%(+0.6%)
AS.................10,642(+0.4%)............10,166(+2.6%)...........95.5%(+2.1%)
B6.................45,144(+88.6%)...........39,449(+89.7%)........87.4%(+0.6%)
DL..............162,132(+3.6%)...........147,062(+16.9%).........90.7%(+12.8%)
F9.................30,184(+83.9%)..........24,697(+86.1%)..........81.8%(+1.2%)
G4..................2,958(-42.4%)..............2,685(-33.9%)..........90.8%(+14.7%)
MX................12,636...........................9,023........................71.4%
NK..............155,150(+25.9%).........130,328(+27.5%).........84.0%(+1.3%)
SY..................3,348............................2,738........................81.8%
UA..............122,672(+5.2%)...........107,020(+14.5%).........87.2%(+8.8%)
WN.............468,979(+29.8%).........403,559(+33.8%).........86.0%(+2.7%)

International
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xwfCNZgCxs8ZJSaa_ag7iLqH7S-5Lm97TELPVxbFkTA/edit?usp=sharing

Domestic
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tm2dZZDisIs4hxFDg8StxwY_JBGDLAHKyznEJZFIn6k/edit?usp=sharing
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:10 am

Thanks for compiling this. It's good to see such high load factors in the summer here. As far as I can tell, demand seems strong going into the fall busy season.

One thing I've noticed is that NK is offering 2 daily flights on many more routes. In addition to MCO and FLL, which have been double daily for a while, I see LAS, ORD, ATL, and TPA going double this month (only did spot checks). Still would be nice to see more routes return, such as BNA, RDU, CLE, MSP, AUS.

WN also seems to be growing here again. Wish the legacies would step up their offerings as well.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:55 pm

Breeze announced a deal with Tulane that may lead to more stable service at MSY.

https://www.nola.com/news/business/arti ... 9333b.html
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:16 am

The airport posted June and July statistics

https://flymsy.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... istics.pdf
https://flymsy.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... istics.pdf

Passenger traffic recovery continued with 6,807,172 passengers recorded in the first 7 months of the year. This was a 52.1% increase over the same period in 2021.
June passenger numbers were 1,054,314 and July passenger numbers were 1,029,254. June passenger numbers were 90.7% of June 2019 and July passenger numbers were 94.9% of July 2019. It looks like overall passenger activity is now approaching the levels seen in 2019. That is a good trend to see.

Airline ranking:

1. Southwest (WN) = 2,396,302 passengers
2. American (AA) = 1,146,964 passengers
3. Delta (DL) = 1,018,417 passengers
4. United (UA) = 840,502 passengers
5. Spirit (NK) = 829,334 passengers
6. JefBlue (B6) = 195,735 passengers
7. Frontier (F9) = 137,286 passengers
8. Alaska (AS) = 72,459 passengers
9. Breeze (MX) = 69,843 passengers
10. Allegiant (G4) = 31,961 passengers
11. British Airways (BA) = 19,975 passengers
12. Sun Country (SY) = 16,069 passengers
13. Silver Airways (3M) = 7,663 passengers
14. Air Canada (AC) = 6,875 passengers
15. Air Transat (TS) = 115 passengers

MSY was ranked 38th busiest airport in the nation through July, and the airport was positioned between SMF and RDU.

https://sacramento.aero/scas/about/reports
https://www.rdu.com/airport-authority/statistics/
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:48 am

UK CAA stats are out for July and August 2022. My breakdown below is only for BA airports that operate exclusively with a 788/789.

July
https://www.caa.co.uk/Documents/Downloa ... eec0c/5226

August
https://www.caa.co.uk/Documents/Downloa ... 54acf/5264

The MSY-LHR route had an estimated load factor of 77.1% in July. There were 5,938 pax flying on an estimated 7,704 offered seats. The route had an estimated load factor of 60.2% in August. There were 4,379 pax flying on an estimated 7,276 seats.

All seat estimations for based on a 788 seat count. (oh how I miss the BA Source)

The following breaks down the numbers for each station that sees 788/789 flying exclusively.

Station..........Jul Pax.........Jul Seats.........Jul LF
BWI..............11,690............13,268............88.1%
BNA.............10,999............13,268............82.9%
PDX...............7,720..............9,416............82.0%
SJC..............10,335............13,268...........77.9%
PIT.................5,999..............7,704............77.9%
MSY...............5,938..............7,704............77.1%

Station..........Aug Pax.......Aug Seats........Aug LF
BWI..............10,960............13,268............82.6%
PDX...............7,796..............9,844............79.2%
SJC................9,983............13,268............75.2%
BNA...............9,558.............13,268............72.0%
PIT.................5,448..............7,704.............70.7%
MSY...............4,379..............7,276.............60.2%

Station.........YTD Pax.........YTD Seats.........YTD LF
PDX..............22,155..............27,820.............79.6%
BWI...............40,981.............52,216..............78.5%
BNA..............38,219.............48,792..............78.3%
MSY..............23,332.............31,244..............74.6%
PIT................16,747.............22,470...............74.5%
SJC..............25,166............. 33,812..............74.4%
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Oct 14, 2022 2:05 am

NolaMD88fan wrote:
UK CAA stats are out for July and August 2022. My breakdown below is only for BA airports that operate exclusively with a 788/789.

July
https://www.caa.co.uk/Documents/Downloa ... eec0c/5226

August
https://www.caa.co.uk/Documents/Downloa ... 54acf/5264

The MSY-LHR route had an estimated load factor of 77.1% in July. There were 5,938 pax flying on an estimated 7,704 offered seats. The route had an estimated load factor of 60.2% in August. There were 4,379 pax flying on an estimated 7,276 seats.

All seat estimations for based on a 788 seat count. (oh how I miss the BA Source)

The following breaks down the numbers for each station that sees 788/789 flying exclusively.

Station..........Jul Pax.........Jul Seats.........Jul LF
BWI..............11,690............13,268............88.1%
BNA.............10,999............13,268............82.9%
PDX...............7,720..............9,416............82.0%
SJC..............10,335............13,268...........77.9%
PIT.................5,999..............7,704............77.9%
MSY...............5,938..............7,704............77.1%

Station..........Aug Pax.......Aug Seats........Aug LF
BWI..............10,960............13,268............82.6%
PDX...............7,796..............9,844............79.2%
SJC................9,983............13,268............75.2%
BNA...............9,558.............13,268............72.0%
PIT.................5,448..............7,704.............70.7%
MSY...............4,379..............7,276.............60.2%

Station.........YTD Pax.........YTD Seats.........YTD LF
PDX..............22,155..............27,820.............79.6%
BWI...............40,981.............52,216..............78.5%
BNA..............38,219.............48,792..............78.3%
MSY..............23,332.............31,244..............74.6%
PIT................16,747.............22,470...............74.5%
SJC..............25,166............. 33,812..............74.4%


Shocked how low LF's are compared to LH in STL. Is MSY at risk of being cut?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Oct 14, 2022 2:37 am

strangeplanes wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
UK CAA stats are out for July and August 2022. My breakdown below is only for BA airports that operate exclusively with a 788/789.

July
https://www.caa.co.uk/Documents/Downloa ... eec0c/5226

August
https://www.caa.co.uk/Documents/Downloa ... 54acf/5264

The MSY-LHR route had an estimated load factor of 77.1% in July. There were 5,938 pax flying on an estimated 7,704 offered seats. The route had an estimated load factor of 60.2% in August. There were 4,379 pax flying on an estimated 7,276 seats.

All seat estimations for based on a 788 seat count. (oh how I miss the BA Source)

The following breaks down the numbers for each station that sees 788/789 flying exclusively.

Station..........Jul Pax.........Jul Seats.........Jul LF
BWI..............11,690............13,268............88.1%
BNA.............10,999............13,268............82.9%
PDX...............7,720..............9,416............82.0%
SJC..............10,335............13,268...........77.9%
PIT.................5,999..............7,704............77.9%
MSY...............5,938..............7,704............77.1%

Station..........Aug Pax.......Aug Seats........Aug LF
BWI..............10,960............13,268............82.6%
PDX...............7,796..............9,844............79.2%
SJC................9,983............13,268............75.2%
BNA...............9,558.............13,268............72.0%
PIT.................5,448..............7,704.............70.7%
MSY...............4,379..............7,276.............60.2%

Station.........YTD Pax.........YTD Seats.........YTD LF
PDX..............22,155..............27,820.............79.6%
BWI...............40,981.............52,216..............78.5%
BNA..............38,219.............48,792..............78.3%
MSY..............23,332.............31,244..............74.6%
PIT................16,747.............22,470...............74.5%
SJC..............25,166............. 33,812..............74.4%


Shocked how low LF's are compared to LH in STL. Is MSY at risk of being cut?


The middle summer is typically the low season for New Orleans tourism. Just too damn hot and humid. Heck, if restaurants downtown and in the French Quarter need to do renovations, they often close to do so during late July and August due to lower demand. I’d be more curious to see if the front cabin was affected as much or if it was mostly a drop in economy load factors that resulted in the low load factors in August.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Oct 14, 2022 2:59 am

Just Curious...
I was just looking to book a last second flight back to Red Stick from IAH for tomorrow evening and noticed there is a 737-900 on UA 1770 at 4:20p (returning to Houston at 6:30p BTR-IAH) The flight to BTR is heavily booked, looking 80% full, while the return is nearly empty. Sunday morning the 930am flight to Houston from BR is a 737-800 that is about 75% full. So what is going in BR Saturday to bring in the upgauge? LSU and Southern are not playing football in BR Saturday. Again just curiosity really as these flights are normally 145s and 175s not mainline.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Oct 14, 2022 5:09 am

strangeplanes wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
UK CAA stats are out for July and August 2022. My breakdown below is only for BA airports that operate exclusively with a 788/789.

July
https://www.caa.co.uk/Documents/Downloa ... eec0c/5226

August
https://www.caa.co.uk/Documents/Downloa ... 54acf/5264

The MSY-LHR route had an estimated load factor of 77.1% in July. There were 5,938 pax flying on an estimated 7,704 offered seats. The route had an estimated load factor of 60.2% in August. There were 4,379 pax flying on an estimated 7,276 seats.

All seat estimations for based on a 788 seat count. (oh how I miss the BA Source)

The following breaks down the numbers for each station that sees 788/789 flying exclusively.

Station..........Jul Pax.........Jul Seats.........Jul LF
BWI..............11,690............13,268............88.1%
BNA.............10,999............13,268............82.9%
PDX...............7,720..............9,416............82.0%
SJC..............10,335............13,268...........77.9%
PIT.................5,999..............7,704............77.9%
MSY...............5,938..............7,704............77.1%

Station..........Aug Pax.......Aug Seats........Aug LF
BWI..............10,960............13,268............82.6%
PDX...............7,796..............9,844............79.2%
SJC................9,983............13,268............75.2%
BNA...............9,558.............13,268............72.0%
PIT.................5,448..............7,704.............70.7%
MSY...............4,379..............7,276.............60.2%

Station.........YTD Pax.........YTD Seats.........YTD LF
PDX..............22,155..............27,820.............79.6%
BWI...............40,981.............52,216..............78.5%
BNA..............38,219.............48,792..............78.3%
MSY..............23,332.............31,244..............74.6%
PIT................16,747.............22,470...............74.5%
SJC..............25,166............. 33,812..............74.4%


Shocked how low LF's are compared to LH in STL. Is MSY at risk of being cut?


August was really bad for some reason, but the July load factor was in line with pre-pandemic numbers. I'm wondering if some flights were cancelled in August and my seat count is too high, but won't really know until the BTS stats come out in a few months. If BA Source were still around, I'd know if there were cancellations. Really miss that site.

I'm not worried about the flight getting cut as it performs really well outside of late Summer. YTD numbers are the best metric for a TATL route, and MSY falls right in the middle of the pack for 788/789 markets.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:47 pm

Family is taking the BA flight this week. I'll let yall know how it looks when I return.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:49 pm

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Family is taking the BA flight this week. I'll let yall know how it looks when I return.


BA incoming with 5 open seats.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:36 pm

Got back last night, great experience overall in the cheap seats. Cabin crew was great and the plane was full of Brits, many staying for up to 10 days. Very few empty seats overall, maybe 15 or so on the entire plane going and fewer than that last night. 8:30 going and 9 hrs coming back. Definitely beat the hustle of the layovers and customs was easy on both ends. Wish it would go back to 5 or 6 days but hard to say what makes that call. Both ways were 787s but the configurations were slightly different, as it seemed there were a few more bathrooms going than coming back, but don't know the total seat count. Definitely will do it again for the price we paid.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:01 am

July 2022 domestic and April 2022 international load factors and passenger numbers by route have been calculated.

April international route seat count(% change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change):

Airline............Seats.........Pax...........LF
BA.................1,498........1,141.........76.2%
NK.................9,168........6,327.........69.0%
WN................1,430....... 1,149.........80.3%

As compared to July 2021, airport-wide domestic seat count rose by 17.2%, and domestic pax traffic increased by 14.2% resulting in a -2.5% decrease in load factors to 82.9%.

The route with the highest load factor in July was AS's MSY-SEA route with a 96.4% load factor. The route with the lowest load factor was F9's MSY-ATL route with a 50.9% load factor.

July Domestic route seat count(% change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change):

Airline............Seats..............................Pax..........................LF
3M..................1,808(+43.5%).............1,427(+55.1%).........78.9%(+8.1%)
AA..............192,570(-0.6%)............162,027(-5.7%)............84.1%(-5.1%)
AS.................11,036(+1.4%)............10,634(+3.8%)...........96.4%(+2.3%)
B6.................46,178(+60.2%)...........36,370(+43.9%)........78.8%(-10.2%)
DL..............166,983(+0.8%)...........145,004(+4.7%)...........86.8%(+3.9%)
F9.................33,466(+90.3%)..........24,902(+64.5%)..........74.4%(-13.6%)
G4..................3,972(-35.0%)..............3,490(-30.2%)..........87.9%(+7.3%)
MX.................5,832(-52.4%)..............4,501(-23.9%)..........77.2%(+29.0%)
NK..............166,108(+31.1%).........131,957(+20.8%).........79.4%(-7.8%)
SY..................3,348............................2,648........................79.1%
UA..............122,231(+0.9%)...........100,403(-0.6%)............82.1%(-1.5%)
WN.............489,538(+30.1%).........406,669(+27.7%).........83.1%(-1.9%)

International
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xwfCNZgCxs8ZJSaa_ag7iLqH7S-5Lm97TELPVxbFkTA/edit?usp=sharing

Domestic
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tm2dZZDisIs4hxFDg8StxwY_JBGDLAHKyznEJZFIn6k/edit?usp=sharing
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:20 pm

A few tidbits…

* AC Rouge is operating the 319 and 320 5X per week on MSY-YYZ in November. AC has really done well here since returning.

* According to Google Flights, BA is going 5X weekly to LHR in April. All 787, not sure of the series.

* AA MSY-PHX has returned with the A320. It’s going to 737-800 next month, and then A321 in February looks like the current plan. MSY-CLT is currently all A321, and there are several 321s to DFW including a NEO.

* DL is still all 757 to ATL. In January, MSP and DTW get 321s, and BOS is going from 221 to 320 to 738. LAX gets a 321 as well. JFK goes from 2X 221 to 2X 738.

* UA in February will be all mainline - 21 a day.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Thu Nov 17, 2022 4:58 am

Thanks for the service updates. Some interesting notes in the board meeting agenda for tomorrow. Biggest one is that a military lounge will be added to the terminal. Very glad to see this for the many active duty service members in our area. https://flymsy.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... -FINAL.pdf
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:48 am

NolaMD88fan wrote:
MX...........................77.2%(+29.0%)

Well, this is decent to see, considering the freakishly low loads they had near the beginning of the year.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:59 am

SunsetLimited wrote:
AC Rouge is operating the 319 and 320 5X per week on MSY-YYZ in November. AC has really done well here since returning.

Getting more confident that we'll see them do YUL after all, seeing as it's still in the schedules, and as you say, they've been doing quite well.



SunsetLimited wrote:
According to Google Flights, BA is going 5X weekly to LHR in April. All 787, not sure of the series.

Not surprised in the least by this, considering how full recent flights have been.

They've been filling the (huge) premium cabins on those 78Xs with ridiculous ease; and while I understand that spot-checks aren't completely reflective of yield, those seats are selling in the 5-digits, even a month in advance.

I wouldn't be surprised if they even have yet another pleasant surprise (gauge increase, model change, additional frequency) yet to come, before next year. ;)



SunsetLimited wrote:
AA MSY-PHX has returned with the A320. It’s going to 737-800 next month, and then A321 in February looks like the current plan. MSY-CLT is currently all A321, and there are several 321s to DFW including a NEO.

All this buildup, but AA still won't grace the place with a lounge... how odd.



SunsetLimited wrote:
DL is still all 757 to ATL. In January, MSP and DTW get 321s, and BOS is going from 221 to 320 to 738. LAX gets a 321 as well. JFK goes from 2X 221 to 2X 738.

The long-awaited post-covid buildup for DL?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Nov 22, 2022 3:27 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
Thanks for the service updates. Some interesting notes in the board meeting agenda for tomorrow. Biggest one is that a military lounge will be added to the terminal. Very glad to see this for the many active duty service members in our area. https://flymsy.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... -FINAL.pdf


What are the thoughts on MSY getting one of the new ESCAPE lounges by AMEX?
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Nov 22, 2022 3:48 pm

msyflyer wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
Thanks for the service updates. Some interesting notes in the board meeting agenda for tomorrow. Biggest one is that a military lounge will be added to the terminal. Very glad to see this for the many active duty service members in our area. https://flymsy.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... -FINAL.pdf


What are the thoughts on MSY getting one of the new ESCAPE lounges by AMEX?

About 0% chance of that happening any time soon, particularly when there's already a DL lounge that many are gaining access to through AmEx (personally guilty as well).
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:17 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
msyflyer wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
Thanks for the service updates. Some interesting notes in the board meeting agenda for tomorrow. Biggest one is that a military lounge will be added to the terminal. Very glad to see this for the many active duty service members in our area. https://flymsy.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... -FINAL.pdf


What are the thoughts on MSY getting one of the new ESCAPE lounges by AMEX?

About 0% chance of that happening any time soon, particularly when there's already a DL lounge that many are gaining access to through AmEx (personally guilty as well).


Frustrating for those of us that don't always fly DL though.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:14 pm

WN732 wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
msyflyer wrote:

What are the thoughts on MSY getting one of the new ESCAPE lounges by AMEX?

About 0% chance of that happening any time soon, particularly when there's already a DL lounge that many are gaining access to through AmEx (personally guilty as well).


Frustrating for those of us that don't always fly DL though.


There’s still the United Club and The Club MSY. Not a bad lineup.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:47 am

WN732 wrote:
Frustrating for those of us that don't always fly DL though.

Perhaps, but that's a choice, to not take what they offer... especially when considering that there's stateside airports 3x busier than MSY that don't have (and aren't likely to receive) an AmEx lounge any time in the foreseeable future.



Though speaking of future: I wouldn't be surprised if Capital One lounges surpass Centurion relatively quickly, as the standard for credit card lounges. They apparently have far more aggressive expansion plans, are willing to try smaller airports, and aren't tied to a particular airline.

Chase is far more conservative, but they can also have last-mover advantage of seeing what the competition does, and tweaking their lounge to that effect.


SunsetLimited wrote:
There’s still the United Club and The Club MSY. Not a bad lineup.

And I was thrilled to learn on the FBook group that AA still has plenty of room to place a lounge, should they desire
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:45 am

August 2022 domestic and May 2022 international load factors and passenger numbers by route have been calculated.

Vacation Express restarted their seasonal CUN service in May.

May international route seat count(% change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change):

Airline............Seats....................Pax......................LF
BA.................7,276...................5,528...................76.0%
NK.................9,884...................6,841...................69.2%
WG...................720(0.0%)..........429(+50.0%).....59.6%
WN................1,144....... .............977....................85.4%

As compared to August 2021, airport-wide domestic seat count rose by 34.7%, and domestic pax traffic increased by 38.4% resulting in a +2.7% increase in load factors to 73.4%.

The route with the highest load factor in August was WN's MSY-LAS route with a 96.1% load factor. The route with the lowest load factor was F9's MSY-ATL route with a 48.4% load factor.

August Domestic route seat count(% change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change):

Airline............Seats..............................Pax..........................LF
3M..................2,018(+80.2%).............1,352(+126.8%).......67.0%(+25.9%)
AA..............192,453(+15.1%).........132,794(+5.7%)...........69.0%(-8.1%)
AS.................10,998(+14.1%)..........10,257(+29.4%).........93.3%(+11.0%)
B6.................37,160(+41.0%)...........26,092(+32.5%)........70.2%(-6.0%)
DL..............165,735(+18.0%).........136,180(+29.2%).........82.2%(+9.5%)
F9.................31,536(+122.5%)........20,998(+107.5%)........66.6%(-6.8%)
G4..................2,856(-38.3%)..............2,195(-19.8%)..........76.9%(+29.9%)
MX.................5,436(-69.7%)..............4,126(-37.5%)..........75.9%(+39.1%)
NK..............165,799(+76.7%).........115,318(+103.7%).......69.5%(+15.2%)
SY..................2,976............................2,443........................82.1%
UA..............126,094(+14.6%)...........94,968(+16.5%).........75.3%(+1.6%)
WN.............492,441(+48.4%).........360,329(+50.9%).........73.2%(+1.7%)

International
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

Domestic
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:52 am

NolaMD88fan wrote:
August 2022 domestic and May 2022 international load factors and passenger numbers by route have been calculated.

Vacation Express restarted their seasonal CUN service in May.

May international route seat count(% change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change):

Airline............Seats....................Pax......................LF
BA.................7,276...................5,528...................76.0%
NK.................9,884...................6,841...................69.2%
WG...................720(0.0%)..........429(+50.0%).....59.6%
WN................1,144....... .............977....................85.4%

As compared to August 2021, airport-wide domestic seat count rose by 34.7%, and domestic pax traffic increased by 38.4% resulting in a +2.7% increase in load factors to 73.4%.

The route with the highest load factor in August was WN's MSY-LAS route with a 96.1% load factor. The route with the lowest load factor was F9's MSY-ATL route with a 48.4% load factor.

August Domestic route seat count(% change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change):

Airline............Seats..............................Pax..........................LF
3M..................2,018(+80.2%).............1,352(+126.8%).......67.0%(+25.9%)
AA..............192,453(+15.1%).........132,794(+5.7%)...........69.0%(-8.1%)
AS.................10,998(+14.1%)..........10,257(+29.4%).........93.3%(+11.0%)
B6.................37,160(+41.0%)...........26,092(+32.5%)........70.2%(-6.0%)
DL..............165,735(+18.0%).........136,180(+29.2%).........82.2%(+9.5%)
F9.................31,536(+122.5%)........20,998(+107.5%)........66.6%(-6.8%)
G4..................2,856(-38.3%)..............2,195(-19.8%)..........76.9%(+29.9%)
MX.................5,436(-69.7%)..............4,126(-37.5%)..........75.9%(+39.1%)
NK..............165,799(+76.7%).........115,318(+103.7%).......69.5%(+15.2%)
SY..................2,976............................2,443........................82.1%
UA..............126,094(+14.6%)...........94,968(+16.5%).........75.3%(+1.6%)
WN.............492,441(+48.4%).........360,329(+50.9%).........73.2%(+1.7%)

International
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

Domestic
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing


Interesting, DL overtook AA to regain largest legacy carrier position for passengers.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:08 am

The airport posted August and September statistics

https://flymsy.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... t-2022.pdf
https://flymsy.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... r-2022.pdf

Passenger traffic recovery continued with 8,657,316 passengers recorded in the first 9 months of the year. This was a 58.5% increase over the same period in 2021, and it is 85.7% of 2019 passenger counts.
August passenger numbers were 900,664 and September passenger numbers were 949,840. August passenger numbers were 86.9% of August 2019 and September passenger numbers were 88.5% of September 2019. Traffic recovery was a bit weaker than what had been observed in June and July when numbers were over 90% of 2019 levels. Possibly, the high gas prices and inflationary concerns caused this decrease as there were no tropical impacts that took place this year unlike in 2020 and 2021.

Spirit airlines overtook United as the 4th largest airline in terms of passengers carried at the airport. Air Canada also moved ahead of Silver Airways into the 13th spot.

Airline ranking:

1. Southwest (WN) = 3,070,268 passengers
2. American (AA) = 1,420,856 passengers
3. Delta (DL) = 1,306,702 passengers
4. Spirit (NK) = 1,076,447 passengers
5. United (UA) = 1,052,947 passengers
6. JefBlue (B6) = 253,898 passengers
7. Frontier (F9) = 173,733 passengers
8. Alaska (AS) = 92,940 passengers
9. Breeze (MX) = 77,489 passengers
10. Allegiant (G4) = 36,993 passengers
11. British Airways (BA) = 29,356 passengers
12. Sun Country (SY) = 20,529 passengers
13. Air Canada (AC) = 14,566 passengers
14. Silver Airways (3M) = 10,217 passengers
15. Air Transat (TS) = 115 passengers

MSY was ranked 37th busiest airport in the nation through September, and the airport was positioned between SMF and RDU.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:13 am

jbs2886 wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
August 2022 domestic and May 2022 international load factors and passenger numbers by route have been calculated.

Vacation Express restarted their seasonal CUN service in May.

May international route seat count(% change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change):

Airline............Seats....................Pax......................LF
BA.................7,276...................5,528...................76.0%
NK.................9,884...................6,841...................69.2%
WG...................720(0.0%)..........429(+50.0%).....59.6%
WN................1,144....... .............977....................85.4%

As compared to August 2021, airport-wide domestic seat count rose by 34.7%, and domestic pax traffic increased by 38.4% resulting in a +2.7% increase in load factors to 73.4%.

The route with the highest load factor in August was WN's MSY-LAS route with a 96.1% load factor. The route with the lowest load factor was F9's MSY-ATL route with a 48.4% load factor.

August Domestic route seat count(% change), pax count(%change), and load factor(change):

Airline............Seats..............................Pax..........................LF
3M..................2,018(+80.2%).............1,352(+126.8%).......67.0%(+25.9%)
AA..............192,453(+15.1%).........132,794(+5.7%)...........69.0%(-8.1%)
AS.................10,998(+14.1%)..........10,257(+29.4%).........93.3%(+11.0%)
B6.................37,160(+41.0%)...........26,092(+32.5%)........70.2%(-6.0%)
DL..............165,735(+18.0%).........136,180(+29.2%).........82.2%(+9.5%)
F9.................31,536(+122.5%)........20,998(+107.5%)........66.6%(-6.8%)
G4..................2,856(-38.3%)..............2,195(-19.8%)..........76.9%(+29.9%)
MX.................5,436(-69.7%)..............4,126(-37.5%)..........75.9%(+39.1%)
NK..............165,799(+76.7%).........115,318(+103.7%).......69.5%(+15.2%)
SY..................2,976............................2,443........................82.1%
UA..............126,094(+14.6%)...........94,968(+16.5%).........75.3%(+1.6%)
WN.............492,441(+48.4%).........360,329(+50.9%).........73.2%(+1.7%)

International
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

Domestic
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing


Interesting, DL overtook AA to regain largest legacy carrier position for passengers.


Only for that month though. DL is still running behind AA year to date, but the gap is closing.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:35 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
The airport posted August and September statistics

https://flymsy.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... t-2022.pdf
https://flymsy.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... r-2022.pdf

Passenger traffic recovery continued with 8,657,316 passengers recorded in the first 9 months of the year. This was a 58.5% increase over the same period in 2021, and it is 85.7% of 2019 passenger counts.
August passenger numbers were 900,664 and September passenger numbers were 949,840. August passenger numbers were 86.9% of August 2019 and September passenger numbers were 88.5% of September 2019. Traffic recovery was a bit weaker than what had been observed in June and July when numbers were over 90% of 2019 levels. Possibly, the high gas prices and inflationary concerns caused this decrease as there were no tropical impacts that took place this year unlike in 2020 and 2021.

Spirit airlines overtook United as the 4th largest airline in terms of passengers carried at the airport. Air Canada also moved ahead of Silver Airways into the 13th spot.

Airline ranking:

1. Southwest (WN) = 3,070,268 passengers
2. American (AA) = 1,420,856 passengers
3. Delta (DL) = 1,306,702 passengers
4. Spirit (NK) = 1,076,447 passengers
5. United (UA) = 1,052,947 passengers
6. JefBlue (B6) = 253,898 passengers
7. Frontier (F9) = 173,733 passengers
8. Alaska (AS) = 92,940 passengers
9. Breeze (MX) = 77,489 passengers
10. Allegiant (G4) = 36,993 passengers
11. British Airways (BA) = 29,356 passengers
12. Sun Country (SY) = 20,529 passengers
13. Air Canada (AC) = 14,566 passengers
14. Silver Airways (3M) = 10,217 passengers
15. Air Transat (TS) = 115 passengers

MSY was ranked 37th busiest airport in the nation through September, and the airport was positioned between SMF and RDU.


RDU estimates to have 12.2M people travel through RDU this year so I can imagine MSY will be in a similar spot
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:55 pm

BA 787-10 coming in today. It’s usually flying in on Saturdays only, so it’s nice to see the big bird make a weekday appearance.

Also, the Four Seasons charter to Antarctica departs today, using a Titan A321neo.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:49 am

The French Airforce A332 is in town. Plenty of unique visitors lately. Of course next week we’ll see the AF 77W here on a scheduled service from CDG for a large convention in town.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:19 am

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The French Airforce A332 is in town. Plenty of unique visitors lately. Of course next week we’ll see the AF 77W here on a scheduled service from CDG for a large convention in town.


Should see them again on Friday when President Macron pays New Orleans a visit.

Total fantasy, but would be cool if AF announced MSY-CDG while he was here. :lol:
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:38 am

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Total fantasy, but would be cool if AF announced MSY-CDG while he was here. :lol:

NOLA's been waiting for a nonstop to Paris since National announced in 1979.... we'd probably get stupid with it, if he (or anyone) actually announced! :cloudnine:
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:47 pm

Does anyone have an update on taxiway G and B status? Its been awhile since I've seen anything posted on its status or a completion date.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:31 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
WN732 wrote:
Frustrating for those of us that don't always fly DL though.

Perhaps, but that's a choice, to not take what they offer... especially when considering that there's stateside airports 3x busier than MSY that don't have (and aren't likely to receive) an AmEx lounge any time in the foreseeable future.



Though speaking of future: I wouldn't be surprised if Capital One lounges surpass Centurion relatively quickly, as the standard for credit card lounges. They apparently have far more aggressive expansion plans, are willing to try smaller airports, and aren't tied to a particular airline.

Chase is far more conservative, but they can also have last-mover advantage of seeing what the competition does, and tweaking their lounge to that effect.


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There’s still the United Club and The Club MSY. Not a bad lineup.

And I was thrilled to learn on the FBook group that AA still has plenty of room to place a lounge, should they desire


The capital one lounge in DFW is really nice and has a lot of different small food options, which could be combined to make a meal, and also a lot of grab and go options. (DL should do that in overcrowded SkyClubs). It's a nice product.
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:36 am

Nola wrote:
DL should do that in overcrowded SkyClubs

...they have. Where ya been? lol
 
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Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2022

Thu Dec 08, 2022 1:49 pm

AF308 from CDG is on the way. The 77W should be landing around 1630 local time. Of course BA is due in today as well, around 1800. It’ll be pretty neat seeing both of those parked next to each other on A.
 
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Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:25 am

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AF308 from CDG is on the way. The 77W should be landing around 1630 local time. Of course BA is due in today as well, around 1800. It’ll be pretty neat seeing both of those parked next to each other on A.


Looking forward to the pictures!
 
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Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:57 am

Beautiful capture of AF and BA together at MSY's international concourse.

Courtesy Cristina Marisol of the New Orleans Spotters FBook group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/nolaspotters/


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Fri Dec 09, 2022 2:16 am

LAX772LR wrote:
Beautiful capture of AF and BA together at MSY's international concourse.

Courtesy Cristina Marisol of the New Orleans Spotters FBook group
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Fantastic shot!

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