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eastafspot wrote:Does anyone have insight about the impact of the UAE ban on East African carriers?
Does ET is flying pax on DXB-ADD sector?
eastafspot wrote:Nice to see an airline opening new route during Covid.
rukundo wrote:Posted on TK aviation Thread
RwandAir has applied its code on some TK routes to and from Istanbul. But the schedules are not very good for TK flights from or to Kigali. So I wonder if RwandAir was not planning a route to Istanbul. With similar timetables Doh-Kgl. Return flights at night, a day stop at IST a day stop at IST to attract pax flying via Kigali, both with pax arriving from Southern and Central Africa with IST as their final destination. Or pax who continue beyond IST
WB 1260 / WB 1259: Istanbul-Geneva
WB 1255 / WB 1256: Frankfurt-Istanbul
WB 1257 / WB 1258: Istanbul-Amsterdam
WB 1262 / WB 1261: Paris Roissy-Istanbul
WB 1254 / WB 1253: Dusseldorf-Istanbul
rukundo wrote:Qatar Airways CEO Africa that he will make important announcements regarding RwandAir.
A (small) part of the 737Max order by Qatar Airways will go to RwandAir ?
Beginning of (a long) the process for integrating RwandAir into Oneworld in the medium term?
Launching of RwandAir Cargo with a lease of a Qatar Airways B777F ?
BangersAndMash wrote:rukundo wrote:Qatar Airways CEO Africa that he will make important announcements regarding RwandAir.
A (small) part of the 737Max order by Qatar Airways will go to RwandAir ?
Beginning of (a long) the process for integrating RwandAir into Oneworld in the medium term?
Launching of RwandAir Cargo with a lease of a Qatar Airways B777F ?
Hopefully a Oneworld announcement. Fingers crossed! His Excellency seems focused on that like a man on a mission right now.
As a Oneworld loyalist, it would nicely expand coverage in Africa. And Rwandair is easily the best of what's on offer.
Makolo didn’t link the two developments, but The New Times understands that the acquisition plan is being fast-tracked to materialize before ‘CHOGM days’ kick in.
“It is should definitely be before that. Perhaps in the early days of June or even before that,” said a source familiar with the plans.
Rwanda will be hosting CHOGM during the week of 20 June 2022 after the much-awaited event was postponed due to Covid-19. About 5,000 guests are expected in the country for the week-long meeting.
Rwanda’s national carrier RwandAir is in the process of evaluating possibilities of purchasing an Airbus A321LR and Boeing 737-7 to operate on European routes during off-peak seasons.
This move comes after its Airbus A330-200 and one larger A330-300 operating on the Kigali-Brussels to London Gatwick route experienced strong load factors this summer “Looking at the A321LR and 737-7 for fleet planning is an ongoing process.
https://www.ktpress.rw/2018/09/rwandair ... re-planes/
In a related development, Makolo told The New Times that Qatar airways plans to acquire a 49 percent stake in the national carrier has reached ‘advanced talks’, on both ends.
rukundo wrote:Edit: It's possible to deleted the message about the arrival of two new RwandAir aircraft and the not the part where i answer to BangersAndMash . The New Times Rwanda and SimplyFlying have removed their article.
There are still some articles in the Rwandan press, but i think stand by for the moment.
Sorry
yoshoward12 wrote:Does anyone have more insight about other airlines in Addis Ababa?
We obviously know Ethiopian is the king at ADD. Its huge for connecting pax throughout Africa. What about the other folks though? KLM ran the AMS-KRT-ADD leg years ago, and ended without resumption, leaving ADD without a connection to AMS. Also, we can not forget Lufthansa’s nonstop flight from FRA-ADD 5x weekly on a 343. Does anyone think that route will return? I don’t think Lufthansa officially terminated ADD. The main point is, because of Ethiopian, many airlines do not fly to ADD, and I think it would be interesting to see a BA LHR-ADD and a resumption of KLM and Lufthansa services. In the Middle East we see Flydubai, Emirates, and Qatar pushing nice numbers, and Saudia when they do not cancel flights. Air China even flew to ADD for a time, but I guess figured it could codeshare with Ethiopian. I’d like to think Addis Ababa itself is a growing African metropolis, with a growing economy to support other airlines with terminating service in ADD.
Thoughts on all of this?
rukundo wrote:
Otherwise Sam Chui is in Rwanda. We will surely have a Trip Report on RwandAir. Another famous aviation vloggers who have traveled on RwandAir:
yoshoward12 wrote:Thoughts on all of this?
eastafspot wrote:yoshoward12 wrote:Thoughts on all of this?
How is the domestic ops in Ethiopia? Dominated by ET also?
I'm really curious as it would be interesting to learn too. Most of A.netters don't have a clue about it!
dkny wrote:Are ET’s 737max back in service? What routes are they doing?
eastafspot wrote:rukundo wrote:
Otherwise Sam Chui is in Rwanda. We will surely have a Trip Report on RwandAir. Another famous aviation vloggers who have traveled on RwandAir:
Many thanks for this great news, Kigali is a "table top airport".
His professional written report (video on YT) is available here:
https://samchui.com/2022/03/13/trip-rep ... ju4COrMI2w
eastafspot wrote:HAMJAMBO MABIBI NA MABWANA,
At a large scale, East African residents fathom pretty quickly the Karibu tena meaning. For others maybe like you, it simply translates by welcome back! You may wonder why?
Air France had flown to Nairobi as early as 1940 to either Réunion Island (RUN) or Antananarive (TNR) both in Indian Ocean using exclusively American equipments such as DC3, B707, B747 and from 1982 on the Paris – Nairobi – Kigali – Bujumbura route, suspended in March 2000.
Excellent news to see AF sending, 18 years later, its latest toy the B789 - part of the fleet since December 2016. Traditions persist from generation to generation !
rukundo wrote:eastafspot wrote:rukundo wrote:
Otherwise Sam Chui is in Rwanda. We will surely have a Trip Report on RwandAir. Another famous aviation vloggers who have traveled on RwandAir:
Many thanks for this great news, Kigali is a "table top airport".
His professional written report (video on YT) is available here:
https://samchui.com/2022/03/13/trip-rep ... ju4COrMI2w
Soon one million of views
There are currently 2 RwandAir aircraft at Doha. A B737-800 which makes the Kigali-Doha flight and the A330-200 which has been present for 4 days. WB98xx usually it's a maintenance flight. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9xr-wn
Rwanda joins ASECNA (Agency for Air Navigation Safety in Africa and Madagascar) https://www-republicoftogo-com.translat ... r_pto=wapp
---------------------------------------------------------eastafspot wrote:HAMJAMBO MABIBI NA MABWANA,
At a large scale, East African residents fathom pretty quickly the Karibu tena meaning. For others maybe like you, it simply translates by welcome back! You may wonder why?
Air France had flown to Nairobi as early as 1940 to either Réunion Island (RUN) or Antananarive (TNR) both in Indian Ocean using exclusively American equipments such as DC3, B707, B747 and from 1982 on the Paris – Nairobi – Kigali – Bujumbura route, suspended in March 2000.
Excellent news to see AF sending, 18 years later, its latest toy the B789 - part of the fleet since December 2016. Traditions persist from generation to generation !
Some pics of Air France B747 at Kigali, in 1980s below.
It is difficult to have archives before the period of the Genocide against the Tutsis from April to July 1994. Difficult because you have to know if some people share cool stuff because they love Rwanda of you have people who still have a lot of sympathy for the pre-July 1994 regime. There, everything is ok The report is Rwanda Rwiza, you can find it on Youtube (in French)
We are in 1987. At that time, Kigali was served by Sabena, Air France, Aeroflot (I found the air agreement dating from 1973 between Rwanda and the USSR, see below), Ethiopian Airlines, Uganda Airlines, Air Rwanda, Kenya Airways, Air Tanzania, Air Burundi.
I think the video was shot after April 1, 1987 because we see a Sabena A310-200. Sabena A310s started to serve Kigali on April 1, 1987. About routing, but it seems it was Brussels-Jeddah-Kigali. Routing also used in the 60s: https://collection.sfomuseum.org/object ... 1527850715
We also see an Air France B747-200. The company mainly used its Combi versions. The 747s arrived in Kigali in 1982, replacing the B707s (the last one left the Air France fleet early 1980s) and the airport of Bujumbura (Burundi) could accommodate the 747s. Withour BJM upgrade, Kigali would surely served with Air France A300 and A310. Air France operated Paris-Nairobi-Kigali-Bujumbura, replacing Paris-Athens-Cairo-Addis Ababa-Kigali.
Air France 75 years of service to Africa: In 1982, Air France operated the Paris-Nairobi-Kigali-Bujumbura route every Monday by Boeing 747, as Bujumbura airport was now accessible to wide-bodied aircraft: https://www.travelio.net/air-france-75- ... frica.html
My first flight was a Kigali-Paris CDG in an Air France B747 in 1988, followed by a Paris CDG-Montpellier (south of France) flight in an Air Inter A300.
We see an Air Rwanda B707 which still partially wears the Air France livery (blue line on the fuselage). This is 9XR-JA which was delivered to Air Rwanda. It was a cargo version which was used on Belgium and Mombasa. Here it is in 1981, at Air France Industrie in Paris Orly: https://www.dreamstime.com/air-rwanda-b ... e238907758
Sabena A310
1 April 1987, le A310-200 de la Sabena arrives in Rwanda
Air France B747
Air Rwanda B707
Kigali Terminal
Air Agreement between Rwanda and USSR, https://books.google.fr/books?id=3X4nnE ... 74&f=false
eastafspot wrote:Kenya Airways will send the Dreamliner to MRU (Mauritius) on 15th, 17th and 18th of April 2022.
Usually E90 is operated on that route KQ270/271.
rukundo wrote:eastafspot wrote:Kenya Airways will send the Dreamliner to MRU (Mauritius) on 15th, 17th and 18th of April 2022.
Usually E90 is operated on that route KQ270/271.
Interesting, KQ rarely uses its 787s on Africans routes. Only to Johannesburg and Lagos.
eastafspot wrote:In none of these incidents official reports have been released ?
I wonder why overwing emergency doors have not been deployed ?
B747-437B wrote:https://www.logupdateafrica.com/aviation/africa-world-airlines-partners-with-kenya-airways-1345326
Kenya Airways has entered into a partnership with Africa World Airlines to connect passengers over AWA's hub in Accra.