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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:19 am

Kronesian wrote:
madg wrote:
Kronesian wrote:

Yes! Rumors were floating around for months, but I could never figure out who it was.


Any other rumors going around?


Keep hearing a domestic airline is supposed to be announced soon.


Avelo or Breeze would be my guess. Nice alternate to dealing with MCO traffic
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Sep 16, 2022 3:25 am

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MCOflyer wrote:
They used to serve Sanford. Now they serve MLB. I live a half hour from Melbourne international airport give or take and it's one of the highway it's on my drive to work.


A big advantage to MLB over SFB is the fact that you don't need to deal with I-4 to get to the tourist areas. The drive from Sanford through downtown can be painful - I live in the heart of Jacksonville and can make it to Orlando in 1h45 driving on a good day, but then it can be another 45 minutes once I get in the vicinity of downtown to being at Disney - and there have been plenty of times I've sat in traffic on I-4 north of Orlando that just extends that 1h45 by a good 15-30 minutes. MLB on the other hand is about 75 minutes, but hardly any traffic and 192 takes you right into the tourist area of Orlando. Coming to/from a trans-Atlantic flight, I'll take a 75 minute drive to the airport and an incredibly easy in and out airport vs a 50 minute drive to SFB and hoping you hit a good day on I-4.


It’s a shame JAX is a nearly two hour drive to Orlando.
JAX would be a great airport for trans Atlantic service at least for the likes of TUI, Condor, EW Discover. Perhaps when the A321XLR is put into service??
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Sep 16, 2022 3:45 am

Is there any word about B6 resuming JAX-LAX-JAX? I know it was one of the routes to get the axe due to flight crew shortages and probably relying solely on O & D. It wasn’t daily but it held its own for sometime. Instead of utilizing the A320, the much more fuel efficient A223s would work really well.

If B6 doesn’t resume the service this would be a great market for DL. Large DL passenger base & once they have more A220s, this could be flown with the A221s 4-5x a week & up gauged to the A223s if demand warrants.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:43 pm

Looks like AA has upgauged CLT-DAB to 1 320, 1 319, 1 CR9 as of at least yesterday.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:01 am

Breeze Airways announced VRB today with flights to HPN, BDL and ORF!! VRB-ORF is operated via HPN and service starts in February. On a side note Sun Wing Announced MSP-MLB.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Thu Oct 20, 2022 12:20 pm

Looks like Sun Country just announced MPS-MLB twice a week. Minnesota nice eh?
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:18 pm

Canada Jetlines has announced MLB. That's now two Canadian carriers here, wonder if we'll see Porter back in the future.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Nov 22, 2022 3:01 am

Looks like Sunwing has decided not to serve MLB.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:42 am

madg wrote:
Looks like Sunwing has decided not to serve MLB.


Looks to be the case. I was supposed to be on the inaugural flight in, but one of my flight tracker apps said the flight was cancelled. Can't find Melbourne on the booking engine anymore either.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:08 pm

Here's something interesting. Apparently Air Canada has been operating A220 flights on YYZ-MLB-YYZ & YUL-MLB-YUL. Are these charters?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA ... /KMLB/CYUL
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:53 pm

FLALEFTY wrote:
Here's something interesting. Apparently Air Canada has been operating A220 flights on YYZ-MLB-YYZ & YUL-MLB-YUL. Are these charters?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA ... /KMLB/CYUL


Air Canada does maintenance in MLB quite a bit, although can’t say I’ve seen many a220’s before.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:45 pm

krsw757 wrote:
FLALEFTY wrote:
Here's something interesting. Apparently Air Canada has been operating A220 flights on YYZ-MLB-YYZ & YUL-MLB-YUL. Are these charters?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA ... /KMLB/CYUL


Air Canada does maintenance in MLB quite a bit, although can’t say I’ve seen many a220’s before.


I think you are right. Perhaps Air Canada has been having some work done at the STS MRO there at MLB? I imagine they are doing B or C checks on some of the early-delivery A220s that are 2+ years old? STS MLB is also well known for its A32X maintenance capabilities, e.g. Allegiant is a steady customer.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:44 am

FLALEFTY wrote:
Here's something interesting. Apparently Air Canada has been operating A220 flights on YYZ-MLB-YYZ & YUL-MLB-YUL. Are these charters?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA ... /KMLB/CYUL


They are going to STS. Air Canada in the past sent their Rouge fleet here, the 777-300ER's and 767's. The MAX's and A220's are now cycling in here.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:50 am

Kronesian wrote:
madg wrote:
Looks like Sunwing has decided not to serve MLB.


Looks to be the case. I was supposed to be on the inaugural flight in, but one of my flight tracker apps said the flight was cancelled. Can't find Melbourne on the booking engine anymore either.


I sent Sunwing a FB Message and in a roundabout way they said they gave MLB the Ax before it started.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:48 am

madg wrote:
Kronesian wrote:
madg wrote:
Looks like Sunwing has decided not to serve MLB.


Looks to be the case. I was supposed to be on the inaugural flight in, but one of my flight tracker apps said the flight was cancelled. Can't find Melbourne on the booking engine anymore either.


I sent Sunwing a FB Message and in a roundabout way they said they gave MLB the Ax before it started.


That's funny, I messaged them on Twitter a day ago, and they said my flight was still a go. Which, of course I knew already it wasn't.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:49 pm

Confirmation that Sunwing is postponing Melbourne launch to next year.

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news ... 758773002/
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:53 am

Kronesian wrote:
Confirmation that Sunwing is postponing Melbourne launch to next year.

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news ... 758773002/


I saw that this afternoon. Not a bad idea from a business standpoint.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Fri Nov 25, 2022 7:28 pm

I see that AA is almost all mainline on CLT-DAB. Anyone, know AA plans to throw some mainline down to MLB?
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:04 am

A while back last year, there was talk about UST bringing in AA flights to/from CLT if they'd won the small community air service grant (which they did). Do we have an update of sorts on what's going on regarding that?
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:41 pm

madg wrote:
Kronesian wrote:
Confirmation that Sunwing is postponing Melbourne launch to next year.

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news ... 758773002/


I saw that this afternoon. Not a bad idea from a business standpoint.


This reminds me of the time Air Canada announced YYZ-DAB.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:02 pm

[twoid][/twoid]
evank516 wrote:
madg wrote:
Kronesian wrote:
Confirmation that Sunwing is postponing Melbourne launch to next year.

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news ... 758773002/


I saw that this afternoon. Not a bad idea from a business standpoint.


This reminds me of the time Air Canada announced YYZ-DAB.


YYZ-DAB was going to be operated by a CR2. That would have been one long RJ flight. I did DAB-ORD on UA in a CRJ back in the day in the dead of winter. Because of winds/weather it was a 3 hour flight and I almost missed my connection to LAX. Hopefully DAB will see better days with more service when the market warrants it.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:03 pm

Rookinla wrote:
[twoid][/twoid]
evank516 wrote:
madg wrote:

I saw that this afternoon. Not a bad idea from a business standpoint.


This reminds me of the time Air Canada announced YYZ-DAB.


YYZ-DAB was going to be operated by a CR2. That would have been one long RJ flight. I did DAB-ORD on UA in a CRJ back in the day in the dead of winter. Because of winds/weather it was a 3 hour flight and I almost missed my connection to LAX. Hopefully DAB will see better days with more service when the market warrants it.


The point is that AC never started YYZ. I get the feeling Sunwing won't be starting MLB either.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Thu Dec 08, 2022 3:46 am

MavyWavyATR wrote:
A while back last year, there was talk about UST bringing in AA flights to/from CLT if they'd won the small community air service grant (which they did). Do we have an update of sorts on what's going on regarding that?


I think they ended up using that money for Elite Airways and Elite seems to be MIA at the moment.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Thu Dec 08, 2022 3:49 am

evank516 wrote:
Rookinla wrote:
[twoid][/twoid]
evank516 wrote:

This reminds me of the time Air Canada announced YYZ-DAB.


YYZ-DAB was going to be operated by a CR2. That would have been one long RJ flight. I did DAB-ORD on UA in a CRJ back in the day in the dead of winter. Because of winds/weather it was a 3 hour flight and I almost missed my connection to LAX. Hopefully DAB will see better days with more service when the market warrants it.


The point is that AC never started YYZ. I get the feeling Sunwing won't be starting MLB either.


That's possible. However, TUI has a huge stake in Sunwing and TUI has a huge relationship with MLB. I recently read that next year TUI is adding more MLB flights.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Thu Dec 08, 2022 4:21 am

MavyWavyATR wrote:
A while back last year, there was talk about UST bringing in AA flights to/from CLT if they'd won the small community air service grant (which they did). Do we have an update of sorts on what's going on regarding that?


AA to UST makes no sense from my view. My girlfriend lives off of FL-207 and can make it to JAX in under an hour (where we have 7-8x/day to CLT, plus DFW/PHL/ORD/DCA/AUS and BOS/LGA/JFK/FLL via B6) and 45 minutes to DAB (for the token CLT service). Both are straight shots on the freeway; even GNV is 1:15 from her place. Just a case of too many airports nearby to make UST work for a legacy.

I still contend that if a new airline comes into UST, it will be Avelo...it just fits too perfectly for them if/when they want to come into Northeast Florida.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:35 am

deltairlines wrote:
MavyWavyATR wrote:
A while back last year, there was talk about UST bringing in AA flights to/from CLT if they'd won the small community air service grant (which they did). Do we have an update of sorts on what's going on regarding that?


AA to UST makes no sense from my view. My girlfriend lives off of FL-207 and can make it to JAX in under an hour (where we have 7-8x/day to CLT, plus DFW/PHL/ORD/DCA/AUS and BOS/LGA/JFK/FLL via B6) and 45 minutes to DAB (for the token CLT service). Both are straight shots on the freeway; even GNV is 1:15 from her place. Just a case of too many airports nearby to make UST work for a legacy.

I still contend that if a new airline comes into UST, it will be Avelo...it just fits too perfectly for them if/when they want to come into Northeast Florida.


I’d hardly call DAB’s CLT service token. They recently upgauged all but one flight to mainline.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Tue Dec 13, 2022 3:24 pm

evank516 wrote:
deltairlines wrote:
MavyWavyATR wrote:
A while back last year, there was talk about UST bringing in AA flights to/from CLT if they'd won the small community air service grant (which they did). Do we have an update of sorts on what's going on regarding that?


AA to UST makes no sense from my view. My girlfriend lives off of FL-207 and can make it to JAX in under an hour (where we have 7-8x/day to CLT, plus DFW/PHL/ORD/DCA/AUS and BOS/LGA/JFK/FLL via B6) and 45 minutes to DAB (for the token CLT service). Both are straight shots on the freeway; even GNV is 1:15 from her place. Just a case of too many airports nearby to make UST work for a legacy.

I still contend that if a new airline comes into UST, it will be Avelo...it just fits too perfectly for them if/when they want to come into Northeast Florida.


I’d hardly call DAB’s CLT service token. They recently upgauged all but one flight to mainline.


They've also added seasonal DCA, DFW, and PHL.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:55 am

DeltaRules wrote:
evank516 wrote:
deltairlines wrote:

AA to UST makes no sense from my view. My girlfriend lives off of FL-207 and can make it to JAX in under an hour (where we have 7-8x/day to CLT, plus DFW/PHL/ORD/DCA/AUS and BOS/LGA/JFK/FLL via B6) and 45 minutes to DAB (for the token CLT service). Both are straight shots on the freeway; even GNV is 1:15 from her place. Just a case of too many airports nearby to make UST work for a legacy.

I still contend that if a new airline comes into UST, it will be Avelo...it just fits too perfectly for them if/when they want to come into Northeast Florida.


I’d hardly call DAB’s CLT service token. They recently upgauged all but one flight to mainline.


They've also added seasonal DCA, DFW, and PHL.


Looking on a non-holiday Monday in January, DAB-CLT is 3x 319, 830a, 140p, 540p. To me, that's still token service. The single flight a day to DFW is nice, but not a game changer.

If I lived in St Augustine, I'd still choose JAX every single time over DAB based on a much better schedule. Heck, I'd probably choose MCO over DAB if I were there - from my girlfriend's place, I can make it to MCO in 90 minutes. Given the option of nonstops vs 3 flights a day to CLT (and one to DFW) and 90% of the time my schedule is going to be much more convenient driving the extra 50 minutes.
 
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Re: North Central/East Coast Florida (JAX/UST/GNV/DAB/MLB/VRB) Aviation Thread - 2022

Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:01 pm

deltairlines wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
evank516 wrote:

I’d hardly call DAB’s CLT service token. They recently upgauged all but one flight to mainline.


They've also added seasonal DCA, DFW, and PHL.


Looking on a non-holiday Monday in January, DAB-CLT is 3x 319, 830a, 140p, 540p. To me, that's still token service. The single flight a day to DFW is nice, but not a game changer.

If I lived in St Augustine, I'd still choose JAX every single time over DAB based on a much better schedule. Heck, I'd probably choose MCO over DAB if I were there - from my girlfriend's place, I can make it to MCO in 90 minutes. Given the option of nonstops vs 3 flights a day to CLT (and one to DFW) and 90% of the time my schedule is going to be much more convenient driving the extra 50 minutes.


Define it as you please, but 3 daily A319s to their second largest hub is far from token service by anyone else’s standards. Token service was B6’s single daily JFK flight.

I’ve flown out of all three of those airports since I have some family that lives in the area. I’ll choose DAB with a layover than the cluster that is MCO or the long drive to JAX.
 
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