Turkish Aviation January 2022

TK105 · Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:26 pm

mafaky wrote:
Sorry, "radar altimeter" is a very wrong term, it needs to be "radio altimeter"!

Thanks. Finally someone is calling it Radio Altimeter. Even some "experts" at TAI call it Radar Altimeter which makes me want to harakiri.

kayik · Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:51 pm

radar altimeter (RA), radio altimeter (RALT), electronic altimeter, or reflection altimeter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_altimeter

OA260 · Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:15 pm

TK787 wrote:
On other news, airporthaber.com reports that Russia joins, Serbia, Armenia, Croatia and Greece to start vaccination tours to Turkey. Russians pay around $650 for a roundtrip ticket from Moscow to Istanbul, 2 night stay at a 3 star hotel and a vaccine. The article suggests that this is an alternative to Sputnik V vaccine they can get at home countries and that vaccine is not recognized for some international travel.
I imagine they get the Pfizer Biontech vaccine once in Istanbul.

Not sure why they mention Greece because Pfizer is readily available in Greece .

A321Lufthansa · Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:35 pm

mafaky wrote:
TK787 wrote:
On other news, airporthaber.com reports that Russia joins, Serbia, Armenia, Croatia and Greece to start vaccination tours to Turkey. Russians pay around $650 for a roundtrip ticket from Moscow to Istanbul, 2 night stay at a 3 star hotel and a vaccine. The article suggests that this is an alternative to Sputnik V vaccine they can get at home countries and that vaccine is not recognized for some international travel.
I imagine they get the Pfizer Biontech vaccine once in Istanbul.

Assuming they get shot with the Pfizer-Biontech vac., what about the further (2nd) shot(s)?

This thing has gone totally crazy. It looks like we are not far from the days that someone will declare: "dear World Citizens! You need to get vaccinated once every two-three months and that will be good only for the known variants and/or for the variants that current vaccine may provide immunity!!"

Usually it is a Johnson vaccine.

TKflyer · Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:48 pm

TC–SOK, another Boeing 737–8 MAX msn/ln 61202/7606 was handed over to SunExpress, 19/01/2022
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/tc-sok

and also TC-SOM Boeing 737-8 MAX msn/ln 61204/7627 is expected today, 20/01/2022
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/tc-som

btw the 7'th and 8'th MAX.

LAXintl · Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:48 am

After taking two years off, TK wil be back with a commercial for Super Bowl 2022 scheduled to be played on February 13th,

Any hints to its content TK787?

TK787 · Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:23 am

LAXintl wrote:
After taking two years off, TK wil be back with a commercial for Super Bowl 2022 scheduled to be played on February 13th,

Any hints to its content TK787?

Actually, I have no idea. Well at least we know that it is not going to be George Clooney

robcol99 · Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:31 am

I don't get it, I've been to JFK, EWR and LGA within the last 4 months. I have 5G service where available in NYC, never checked if that was the case near the airports. The service goes to lower speed LTE where no 5G available. Still pretty fast and no disruptions.

It's a specific band in the spectrum AT&T and Verizon starting to use is the problem. C-band works around 3.9-3.98 Ghz. 777 RA works at 4 Ghz AFAIK. You can still have 5G connectivity with at higher and lower frequencies-which is what is in service now.

a) The 5 TK owned 332s (which are truly ER) will be used for long and this routes for several more years and then either scrapped or sold over top some "innocent" third party and may later find tehir way to Iran Air.

TK needs to pick up Avianca's or Norwegian's new and stored 788 s and replace the A332s. A332 are 15-16 years old now and they can find useful life serving as freighters.

mafaky · Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:31 pm

robcol99 wrote:
a) The 5 TK owned 332s (which are truly ER) will be used for a few long and thin routes for several more years and then either scrapped or sold over top some "innocent" third party and may later find their way to Iran Air.

TK needs to pick up Avianca's or Norwegian's new and stored 788 s and replace the A332s. A332 are 15-16 years old now and they can find useful life serving as freighters.

What makes you think that TK is in need for some more, used (second-hand) 787s, which have a totally different cabin configuration and mostly are 787-8 version, simply to replace these 5 332 frames? Other way round, does TK need to replace those aged and outdated 5 frames, at all?

emre787 · Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:10 pm

mafaky wrote:
robcol99 wrote:
a) The 5 TK owned 332s (which are truly ER) will be used for a few long and thin routes for several more years and then either scrapped or sold over top some "innocent" third party and may later find their way to Iran Air.

TK needs to pick up Avianca's or Norwegian's new and stored 788 s and replace the A332s. A332 are 15-16 years old now and they can find useful life serving as freighters.

What makes you think that TK is in need for some more, used (second-hand) 787s, which have a totally different cabin configuration and mostly are 787-8 version, simply to replace these 5 332 frames? Other way round, does TK need to replace those aged and outdated 5 frames, at all?

Well, actually they're already replaced. Those 5 A332s primary routes have been the triangle ones to Havana-Caracas and Bogota-Panama City and both have been upgauged to 787-9 (and even the 77W). They may eventually be helpful when opening new long and thin routes to North/South America, but other than that they don't have a specific role anymore.

TK787 · Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:34 pm

emre787 wrote:
Seems like the 5G topic in the US is getting really serious. For tomorrow, TK changed all of the 777-300ERs to 787-9s (instead of just canceling those flights like EK which of course would be insane). Let's see how this will develop...

And just like that, today most of those IST-US flights are operated by 77Ws.

mafaky · Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:57 pm

As per figures compiled from Anker-Report (Dec 2021 statistics) for 2021 IST has placed as No. 1 in Europe's airports for total (domestic & international) pax traffic.

01. IST 37.176.509
02. SVO 28.024.906
03. AMS 25.492.633
04. SAW 24.968.761 (Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen)
05. MAD 24.135.220
06. DME 23.262.096
07. CDG 22.712.666
08. FRA 22.096.095
09. AYT 22.007.108 (Antalya)
10. LHR 19.394.451

A recent list at Wiki also confirms this but their list exclude SAW & AYT, being that they are geographically located in Asian territory.

TKflyer · Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:12 pm

With the TC-SME, the last and 9'th aircraft from the first two tranches was handed over today (22/01/2022) to SunExpress
TC-SME Boeing 737-8 MAX msn/ln 63607/8155
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/tc-sme

ankaraflyjet · Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:15 pm

wow, this is incredible, AYT above LHR, this is the new world order we should get used to I guess...Let's hope these accomplishments will not be "Pandemic Special" and will continue....

mafaky · Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:59 pm

ankaraflyjet wrote:
wow, this is incredible, AYT above LHR, this is the new world order we should get used to I guess...Let's hope these accomplishments will not be "Pandemic Special" and will continue....

Well, to be honest, AYT surpassing LHR is indeed the "pandemic special" but there's a huge decline in UK's figures in 2021.

TK787 · Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:09 am

Latest situation at IST, few cancelled flights by TK, snow removal video from airporthaber.com:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5EBtgTfr_0&t=23s

factsonly · Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:03 am

mafaky wrote:
As per figures compiled from Anker-Report (Dec 2021 statistics) for 2021 IST has placed as No. 1 in Europe's airports for total (domestic & international) pax traffic.

01. IST 37.176.509
02. SVO 28.024.906
03. AMS 25.492.633
04. SAW 24.968.761 (Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen)
05. MAD 24.135.220
06. DME 23.262.096
07. CDG 22.712.666
08. FRA 22.096.095
09. AYT 22.007.108 (Antalya)
10. LHR 19.394.451

A recent list at Wiki also confirms this but their list exclude SAW & AYT, being that they are geographically located in Asian territory.

This list is not correct, the data for 2021 are:

3. CDG = 26,196,575
6. FRA = 24,814,921

Source: airport statistics

LLA001 · Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:19 pm

Due to snow they have suspended the flights to IST till 6 pm, a lot of airplanes are diverting, some examples flights; from JFK to ADB, from YUK, KBP, TLV to AYT and a lot of ESBs,

However one flight diversion is far from ideal, EK123 with A380 came over to IST and then flew to Cairo for diversion. I guess there are no other terminals in Turkey to receive A380 and thus this long diversion.

edit:typo

OA260 · Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:21 pm

LLA001 wrote:
Due to snow they have suspended the flights to IST till 6 pm, a lot of airplanes are diverting, some examples flights; from JFK to ADB, from YUK, KBP, TLV to AYT and a lot of ESBs,

However one flight diversion is far from ideal, EK123 with A380 came over to IST and then flew to Cairo for diversion. I guess there are no other terminals in Turkey to receive A380 and thus this long diversion.

edit:typo

Would not like to be caught up in that at IST . Been there before when there was snow and it was chaos. Although the pics of the snow are lovely .

TK787 · Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:45 pm

Operations at IST halted temporarily due to heavy snow; 1/8 mile visibility, 2200 ft ceiling, 26-36knot winds from 340 degs.

EDIT: you guys beat me to it

Looks like it might last at least 6 hours till midnight.

TK787 · Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:03 pm

[quote="OA260"

Would not like to be caught up in that at IST . Been there before when there was snow and it was chaos. Although the pics of the snow are lovely .

[/quote]
Weather/snow delays are the worst.
My wife was traveling New York-Seattle-Anchorage, AK last month during a snow storm and Omicron crew shortages. There were pax stranded for days at SeaTac airport. It took my wife 20 hours to get to ANC on Alaska Airlines. She was lucky enough to get a back up fully refundable ticket from DL, from SEA to ANC while she was still delayed at EWR ( just in case). Many people at Seattle stranded, UBER was charging over $100 to take people from SEA to downtown hotels. Some pax had to overpay for rental cars to drive to their final destination as opposed to waiting for a flight. It is a compounding effect with crews and airplanes getting stuck at the wrong places. And it takes days/weeks to get things back to normal, especially during holiday travel.
Good Luck people, safe travels.

aldrigsomandre · Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:31 am

Massive collapse of the cargo facility at IST.
I hope there are no casualties.

https://www.livik.net/2022/01/24/this-i ... collapsed/

TK787 · Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:05 pm

Finally one runway operational at IST.
Only a day ago there were 200 TK planes in the air all over the world, now around couple dozen, mostly from SAW and ESB.

Wow, video of stranded passengers demanding hotel rooms at IST:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS6R8C5nNHg&t=43s

HB-IWC · Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:05 pm

TK787 wrote:
Finally one runway operational at IST.

I wonder whether that is still the case. An Air Algerie flight just turned around and seems to be moving back to ALG. Next one due in is the delayed TK004 from JFK.

TK787 · Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:34 pm

HB-IWC wrote:
TK787 wrote:
Finally one runway operational at IST.

I wonder whether that is still the case. An Air Algerie flight just turned around and seems to be moving back to ALG.

https://www.flightradar24.com/DAH3016/2a9ab2df
Is this the one? 39,000 feet. Maybe going to ESB.

HB-IWC · Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:46 pm

It turned around seemingly back to Algiers but then turned around again and is now flying past IST so maybe to ESB indeed. It seems that open runway at IST may be closed again.

TK787 · Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:11 pm

HB-IWC wrote:
It turned around seemingly back to Algiers but then turned around again and is now flying past IST so maybe to ESB indeed. It seems that open runway at IST may be closed again.

Strange that Algiers went to ESB but TK4 landed at IST.
Snow operations never fair

Once during a snow storm, our TK IST-JFK diverted to BOS, waited 6 hours on tarmac after an 11 hour flight from IST. Out of all the airlines at BOS that night, we were the last ones to get our bags and hotel rooms. The next day BOS shut down and I was stuck in Boston for 2 days at the hotel, eventually got on a 4 hour bus ride to arrive at New York

factsonly · Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:23 pm

TK787 wrote:

Snow operations never fair Once during a snow storm, our TK IST-JFK diverted to BOS, waited 6 hours on tarmac after an 11 hour flight from IST. Out of all the airlines at BOS that night, we were the last ones to get our bags and hotel rooms. The next day BOS shut down and I was stuck in Boston for 2 days at the hotel.

The same is happening this time around, TK aircraft, crews and passengers are stranded all over the place.
Perhaps we can make a list of TK aircraft stuck at outstations:

A350:
- TC-LGC diverted to ADB, parked for 2 days
- TC-LGD parked in AMS for 2 days

A333;
- TC-JNK parked at DUS for 2 days
- TC-JNM parked at KTM for 2 days
- TC-JNN diverted to ADB, parked for 2 days
- TC-JNP diverted to ESB, parked for 2 days
- TC-JNR parked at FRA for 2 days
- TC-JNZ diverted to AYT, parked for 2 days
- TC-JOA diverted to ADB, parked for 2 days
- TC-JOE diverted to BJV, parked for 2 days
- TC-JOG parked at CDG for 2 days
- TC-JOK parked at MAD for 2 days
- TC JOL parked at DUB for 2 days

Anyone else??

TK787 · Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:43 pm

Latest from IST

https://twitter.com/HavaSosyalMedya/sta ... 78/photo/1

TK787 · Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:37 pm

Few pictures from IST today. Things are getting back to normal slowly.
https://www.airporthaber.com/havacilik- ... 92021.html
I hope TK and IGA took some notes and prepare better for next time. It is a given that this will happen again, it might happen every year, it might happen next month. They need better weather forecast, they need to cancel flights before people arrive at the airport. They need to be able to house transit pax that will get stuck, get emergency facilities to feed/house pax/personnel days at a time. Basically they need a better contingency plan.

mafaky · Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:37 pm

https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/670182178

This link leads to a yet unpublished video (on YouTube, particularly) as how the roof of a cargo terminal's roof collapsed during the heavy snowstorm experienced at IST.

Now, pls. don't ask me why, how, exactly where as there are many grey points here. All is known that a) this is a "temporary cargo facility", b) it's operated by TK and has been built by TK (not by IGA, the BOTs group on IST project, c) As claimed (rather suspiciously by IGA), is 6 km. away from the main passenger terminal. 6 km??? Why the hell TK built even a temporary cargo facility 6 km. away from the main terminal and carry to or forward the belly cargo to/from such a distant location???

mafaky · Wed Jan 26, 2022 1:02 pm

TK787 wrote:
Few pictures from IST today. Things are getting back to normal slowly.
https://www.airporthaber.com/havacilik- ... 92021.html
I hope TK and IGA took some notes and prepare better for next time. It is a given that this will happen again, it might happen every year, it might happen next month. They need better weather forecast, they need to cancel flights before people arrive at the airport. They need to be able to house transit pax that will get stuck, get emergency facilities to feed/house pax/personnel days at a time. Basically they need a better contingency plan.

I do much agree with you but in case of a sizable stranded passenger population at IST's terminal there is absolutely no means to accomodate them anywhere (except that smallish YOTEL inside the terminal). There are no nearby hotels; they are all in downtown city. IGA was planning to build three hotels (possibly up to 1.000+ rooms) in Airport City Zone Core, the piece of land right behind the terminal, opposite side of the mosque and lease them to international chains. AFAIK (as I haven't been to IST after 20.03.2020), these were not even started due to the pandemic and/or IGA's own financial bottlenecks. At least, GE imagery dated from 8/3/2021 doesn't reveal any excavations etc. for the foundations, on that particular site.

And it's not only that IGA/TK take better precautions? What to do when all the roads leading to IST are closed and cannot be cleared???

So as in Turkish saying, for future bad weather mishaps, it will again be to some extent: "Saldim cayira, mevlam kayira!"

TK787 · Wed Jan 26, 2022 1:21 pm

https://www.cnnturk.com/ekonomi/istanbu ... tamamlandi
This Turkish Language article from CNNTurk is from 2 years ago. "We are ready for winter operations" says IGA Airside Operations Director, having been visited winter facilities at Toronto, Chicago, Atlanta, Washington, Stockholm, Tromso ve Frankfurt.
It is not rocket science. It will snow, airport operations will stop. Like I told you earlier, years ago BOS closed, during Xmas few weeks ago SEA closed. I live in New York area, all airports around us close one time or another during snow. People get stranded everywhere, sleep on the floors at airports all over the world. THis happens.
Figure out a way how to deal with it.
IMHO, most important is to have the guts to cancel flights beforehand and to do that you need the best forecast.

A321Lufthansa · Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:54 pm

Just a quite offtop question - is it forbidden in Turkey to give the same reg to an A/C for the second time? For example, TC-JIV/JIY became TC-LOH/LOI after returning to TK. Or was it TK's choice?

TK787 · Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:29 pm

TK787 wrote:
An update on the TK crews stranded in Kazakhstan; a TK 77W is bringing them back along with some ACT and Silk Way Airlines personnel. And Ilker Ayci of TK, who got out earlier out of Kazakhstan on a Cargo flight with his wife, is actually gone back to bring the crews, a much needed PR move

Well, looks like that PR move did not help.
Ilker Ayci, Chairman of the Board of Directors at TK, resigned.

MeCe · Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:04 pm

TK787 wrote:
https://www.cnnturk.com/ekonomi/istanbul-havalimaninda-kis-hazirligi-tamamlandi
This Turkish Language article from CNNTurk is from 2 years ago. "We are ready for winter operations" says IGA Airside Operations Director, having been visited winter facilities at Toronto, Chicago, Atlanta, Washington, Stockholm, Tromso ve Frankfurt.
It is not rocket science. It will snow, airport operations will stop. Like I told you earlier, years ago BOS closed, during Xmas few weeks ago SEA closed. I live in New York area, all airports around us close one time or another during snow. People get stranded everywhere, sleep on the floors at airports all over the world. THis happens.
Figure out a way how to deal with it.
IMHO, most important is to have the guts to cancel flights beforehand and to do that you need the best forecast.

Yes It is not rocket science. Unfortunately they managed ruin simple snow cleaning job. Their understanding what is snow plowing, push snow somewhere else. It may work for couple cm snow but became disaster snowfall like this. They are so stupid that they plow all snow into in front of parked airplanes and on ground equipment; later had to work so much clear the compacted snow. If the director really paid attention during visits how they clear snow he/she can realize they have to load to trucks and move snow somewhere else or melt at the point.

rukundo · Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:08 pm

RwandAir has applied its code on some TK routes to and from Istanbul. But the schedules are not very good for TK flights from or to Kigali. So I wonder if RwandAir was not planning a route to Istanbul. With similar timetables Doh-Kgl. Return flights at night, a day stop at IST a day stop at IST to attract pax flying via Kigali, both with pax arriving from Southern and Central Africa with IST as their final destination. Or pax who continue beyond IST

WB 1260 / WB 1259: Istanbul-Geneva

WB 1255 / WB 1256: Frankfurt-Istanbul

WB 1257 / WB 1258: Istanbul-Amsterdam

WB 1262 / WB 1261: Paris Roissy-Istanbul

WB 1254 / WB 1253: Dusseldorf-Istanbul

TK787 · Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:55 pm

MeCe wrote:
they have to load to trucks and move snow somewhere else or melt at the point.

Thanks. Exactly.
In NY, they load snow onto trucks and then dump to the river. Also there are few expensive machines that melt the snow.
In NYC, all garbage trucks turn into snow plows with modifications. First they clean the roads and when it stops snowing they pick up the garbage.
Just look at Anchorage, Alaska. It is not only cold, most of the winter it is dark most of the time, being located in the North.
They keep that airport running all the time, being one of the top Cargo airports in the world. Also they have to keep it going with crews reaching the Anchorage airport to work with no mass transit system and a tiny City bus system. This means, they have to keep the roads going to the airport clean also. It is a combined effort.

ARNbased · Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:13 pm

MeCe wrote:
TK787 wrote:
https://www.cnnturk.com/ekonomi/istanbul-havalimaninda-kis-hazirligi-tamamlandi
This Turkish Language article from CNNTurk is from 2 years ago. "We are ready for winter operations" says IGA Airside Operations Director, having been visited winter facilities at Toronto, Chicago, Atlanta, Washington, Stockholm, Tromso ve Frankfurt.
It is not rocket science. It will snow, airport operations will stop. Like I told you earlier, years ago BOS closed, during Xmas few weeks ago SEA closed. I live in New York area, all airports around us close one time or another during snow. People get stranded everywhere, sleep on the floors at airports all over the world. THis happens.
Figure out a way how to deal with it.
IMHO, most important is to have the guts to cancel flights beforehand and to do that you need the best forecast.

Yes It is not rocket science. Unfortunately they managed ruin simple snow cleaning job. Their understanding what is snow plowing, push snow somewhere else. It may work for couple cm snow but became disaster snowfall like this. They are so stupid that they plow all snow into in front of parked airplanes and on ground equipment; later had to work so much clear the compacted snow. If the director really paid attention during visits how they clear snow he/she can realize they have to load to trucks and move snow somewhere else or melt at the point.

I generally have huge respect for TK / IGA / TGS operations, but I have to say that snow isn't really their thing. I've been to "old IST" (Ataturk) a couple of times during snow storms and it was just utter chaos. A nightmare. If you look at snow cleaning operations at ARN (my home airport), DME, ORD, etc. it's usually highly organized and methodic. Sure, I get that it must be terribly challenging to deal with a snow storm in a major airport, but it does seem as if TK / IGA need a lot more training.

ricq · Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:51 pm

Isn't this much snow somewhat unusual in Istanbul? How can you compare it to Anchorage or Stockholm or Moscow or Chicago? Those airports have snow all winter long, year after year. They have lot's of equipment and trained personnel to deal with it. How can you expect IST to invest so much time and money into snow removal when snow is less of a regular occurrence? It would be nice, but I doubt it will happen.

MeCe · Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:41 pm

ricq wrote:
Isn't this much snow somewhat unusual in Istanbul? How can you compare it to Anchorage or Stockholm or Moscow or Chicago? Those airports have snow all winter long, year after year. They have lot's of equipment and trained personnel to deal with it. How can you expect IST to invest so much time and money into snow removal when snow is less of a regular occurrence? It would be nice, but I doubt it will happen.

It is all about how big their (IGA management) mouth is. In 2015 there was a big snow storm and all operation messed up in Ataturk airport. Then they claim " This kind of mess will never happen at new airport" Today we see that there is no difference between two incidents. Only difference is IGA claims they are the best, big etc of everything. It is obvious that they can not spend money like mentioned airports but than just cancel/reduce operations/ do not create mess with your own hands. But I am sure that same mess will happen next year if similar snow storm seen, never learn their mistakes.

Avianca · Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:51 pm

I have a flash back! same happened to me exactly 5 years ago, starting Jan 2017 their was the same situation (also still at the former IST airport) - I was actually on a quick hop on the "new" IST-HAV-CCS-IST service ... it was a big mess to get home to CCS

TK787 · Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:35 am

ricq wrote:
Isn't this much snow somewhat unusual in Istanbul? How can you compare it to Anchorage or Stockholm or Moscow or Chicago? Those airports have snow all winter long, year after year. They have lot's of equipment and trained personnel to deal with it. How can you expect IST to invest so much time and money into snow removal when snow is less of a regular occurrence? It would be nice, but I doubt it will happen.

It is actually more common than you think and this is not something new. It snows like this in Istanbul once a year or once every other year.
Locals can tell their own experiences. I have a few.
The difference between the recent past and the future the come is, IST is lot larger than ISL, it is at the edge of the Black Sea coast of Istanbul from which most cold fronts come from. IST serves more and more transit pax. And IST compared to ISL is farther away from population centers.
So, it is a bigger headache. Even if it happens once a year, this will effect TK's, IGA's ... bottom line.

Delta777Jet · Thu Jan 27, 2022 7:04 am

Does anyone know the delivery schedule for the next A-321NEO‘s with TK ?

TK105 · Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:41 pm

Yesterday a colleague of mine was going to Europe via IST. As he had to wait more than 4 hr at ESB, he missed his connection at IST. He said that it was a total chaos at IST once he landed. He managed to switch his ticket to todays morning flight but a hotel room was impossible he said. I asked him to go to Yotel but hotel receptionist mentioned that Yotel was fully booked. I asked my secratary to look for an alternative but interestingly on internet Yotel was available. With a reasonable price (given the conditions) like 165+VAT we booked 1 night room at Yotel. In the mean time my colleague was waiting 2km long TK hotel line which looked like not going a cm. Any way at the end, we managed to get him into Yotel. But thousands slept the night like homeless people at IGA. I’m still thinking about why Yotel declined him in the first place. Probably Yotel receptionist was selling the empty rooms to hopeless people at a super high price after late night, and put the money in his own pocket.

TK787 · Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:24 pm

Lucky for your friend that you were able to help him.
This is another problem with having only one airline, no real competitors at IST.
No incentive to improve the situation

Dreamflight767 · Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:56 am

Hey. Can anyone tell me how reliable the TK IST-FEG-IST service is? May need to fly that route in a few days time but with FEG being such a small city in UZ, not sure if it gets cancelled or delayed a lot.

Thank you

TK787 · Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:27 am

About snow storms,
NY area is expecting 8-12+ inches (20-30cm) of snow by Saturday evening with blizzard conditions of wind.(30-45mph gusts)
JFK, EWR, BOS might be shut down for hours. BOS will get the worst of it.
There will be thousands of flight cancellations, diverts.
TK might cancel all of those Saturday flights.

TK787 · Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:38 pm

According to few websites, last day of Cargo operations at ISL will be Feb5th.
All Cargo ops are moving to IST.
Can anyone confirm this? Thank you.

TK787 · Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:25 pm

Here is another nice video on Youtube, TK 77W IST-ADB-IST:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roKTQf-hXM4
Any idea about the flaps situation on the return? Thanks.

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