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lesfalls wrote:Saudi’s plans for Summer 2022:
JED-AGP-MAD-JED, 30 JUN-28 AUG 2x weekly 787-9
NEW ROUTING: RUH-AGP-MAD-RUH, 30 JUN-28 AUG 2x weekly 787-9
Source: https://aeroroutes.com/eng/220329-svns22intl
(Ps: Airlineroutes 2.0 is back!)
avi8 wrote:Any idea why LEVEL has been operating flights from MAD? Many flights are sold as iberia and I’ve heard many complaints of purchasing “Business Class” only to get a premium economy service.
avi8 wrote:Any idea why LEVEL has been operating flights from MAD? Many flights are sold as iberia and I’ve heard many complaints of purchasing “Business Class” only to get a premium economy service.
lesfalls wrote:avi8 wrote:Any idea why LEVEL has been operating flights from MAD? Many flights are sold as iberia and I’ve heard many complaints of purchasing “Business Class” only to get a premium economy service.
Has IB been offering refunds to those passengers?
richcandy wrote:lesfalls wrote:avi8 wrote:Any idea why LEVEL has been operating flights from MAD? Many flights are sold as iberia and I’ve heard many complaints of purchasing “Business Class” only to get a premium economy service.
Has IB been offering refunds to those passengers?
aviator2000 wrote:Binter will launch Florence, Valladolid, Menorca, Ponta Delgada and Fez from Gran Canaria next summer
davidjohnson6 wrote:When booking/flying with Binter in the Canaries, the airline seems to make a big thing that flights are operated by Canarias. Checking the aircraft reg, it seems to always be associated with Binter.
debonair wrote:davidjohnson6 wrote:When booking/flying with Binter in the Canaries, the airline seems to make a big thing that flights are operated by Canarias. Checking the aircraft reg, it seems to always be associated with Binter.
Legally mandatory for BINTER, as flights are op. by CANAIR-CANARIAS AIRLINES COMPAÑIA DE AVIACION, ICAO RSC.
a350lover wrote:Iberia recovering capacity without enough fleet. IB got the 3 frames LEVEL operated in Paris-Orly as LEVEL France. The remaining three who still are in Madrid will be retrofitted to IB cabin featuring “proper Business Product”
aviator2000 wrote:Binter will launch Florence, Valladolid, Menorca, Ponta Delgada and Fez from Gran Canaria next summer
avi8 wrote:Any idea why LEVEL has been operating flights from MAD? Many flights are sold as iberia and I’ve heard many complaints of purchasing “Business Class” only to get a premium economy service.
debonair wrote:
GatoVolador wrote:avi8 wrote:Any idea why LEVEL has been operating flights from MAD? Many flights are sold as iberia and I’ve heard many complaints of purchasing “Business Class” only to get a premium economy service.
EC-MOU, EC-MOY and EC-MYA are A332 from Level Spain (operated by IB’s metal & crews under a kind of wet-lease agreement with Level). These frames are back in Madrid and they joined the IB operation. So, even if they have Level’s livery and cabin, they are operating IB flights. By the end of the year they will be retrofitted with the IB cabin (and hopefully get the IB livery as well), leaving behind the Level operations.
Level Spain is operating with the aircrafts from Level France, that will still be operated by IB crews on behalf of Level.
So… un short: you may notice some Level aircrafts out of MAD but because these aircrafts are now part of the IB network, even if they still carry the livery and cabin of their their old operator.
himarhernandez wrote:GatoVolador wrote:avi8 wrote:Any idea why LEVEL has been operating flights from MAD? Many flights are sold as iberia and I’ve heard many complaints of purchasing “Business Class” only to get a premium economy service.
EC-MOU, EC-MOY and EC-MYA are A332 from Level Spain (operated by IB’s metal & crews under a kind of wet-lease agreement with Level). These frames are back in Madrid and they joined the IB operation. So, even if they have Level’s livery and cabin, they are operating IB flights. By the end of the year they will be retrofitted with the IB cabin (and hopefully get the IB livery as well), leaving behind the Level operations.
Level Spain is operating with the aircrafts from Level France, that will still be operated by IB crews on behalf of Level.
So… un short: you may notice some Level aircrafts out of MAD but because these aircrafts are now part of the IB network, even if they still carry the livery and cabin of their their old operator.
Will these birds carry the "improved" interiors that they have announced will come with the new A350s?
Embajador3 wrote:Well, that explains why my mum's flight to BRU with UX is operaed by Iberojet. I thought it was a wetlease agreement, not a codeshare!
debonair wrote:Embajador3 wrote:Well, that explains why my mum's flight to BRU with UX is operaed by Iberojet. I thought it was a wetlease agreement, not a codeshare!
Hola! After all these problems with the take-over of IAG, COVID-19 etc. it seems UX will eventually prosper again!
Not only 4 B787 from Norse Atlantic will join the fleet, but also some B737. But, after BA announced a MAD crew base, it will be definetly more difficult to find well trained crews for these additional airframes.
EC-NVO ex Ryanair
EC-NVP/Q ex Ryanair/Ukraine Int.
EC-NVJ ex TUI AIRWAYS
EC-NUY/Z ex Malindo Air
source: https://www.planespotters.net
lesfalls wrote:debonair wrote:
In the article it says an Interline. It could develop into a codeshare at a later point making the deal quite significant.
aviator2000 wrote:Asiana Airlines has confirmed today it will be returning to Barcelona, as well as a handful of other European destinations by July.
jmmadrid wrote:aviator2000 wrote:Asiana Airlines has confirmed today it will be returning to Barcelona, as well as a handful of other European destinations by July.
So as from September there'll be two airlines flying BCN-SEL (ASIANA 777, KOREAN 787) but zero airlines flying MAD-SEL
KE used to fly to MAD before COVID, I believe daily on a 777
SCQ83 wrote:AENA has released its numbers for April 2022, the first summer season month after COVID and Easter in Europe.
https://www.aena.es/es/estadisticas/inf ... uales.html
Traffic in April was only 11.8% below April 2019 numbers.
However some airports have beaten their April records, like SCQ (Santiago de Compostela) +15.5% or MAH (Menorca) +32.9%.
On the other hand GRO (Girona) is -42.8%, LCG (A Coruña) -31.1%, GRX (Granada) -26.9% and VGO (Vigo) -22.7% are amongst the worst performers.
AstanaMagic wrote:Jerez gets a new London Link
https://aeroroutes.com/eng/220524-vyjul22lgw
Vueling in July 2022 plans further network expansion at London Gatwick, as the airline schedules additional 2 routes to Spain: Genoa and Jerez de la Frontera. Planned schedule as follows.
London Gatwick – Jerez de la Frontera eff 01JUL22 2 weekly A320
VY6630 LGW0640 – 1025XRY 320 1
VY6630 LGW1655 – 2040XRY 320 5
VY6631 XRY1100 – 1255KGW 320 1
VY6631 XRY2115 – 2310KGW 320 5
debonair wrote:WamosAir will end all scheduled operations, passengers will be rebooked onto Iberojet:
https://www.hosteltur.com/151822_asi-qu ... s-air.html
SCQ83 wrote:What is the point of so many new charter/leisure airlines again in MAD? This is starting to look like the late 2000s with Air Madrid, Futura, Air Comet or Quantum Air that all went under with the crisis. And of course Spanair.
So now there are:Plus Ultra (funded by former Air Madrid management!): long-haul to VFR Latin American destinations
Iberojet (merge of Orbest - former Iberworld - and Evelop) long-haul to holiday Caribbean destinations (+Mauritius) and now also short-haul
Wamos Air (former Pullmantur Air) long-haul to holiday Caribbean destinations
World2fly (owned by Iberostar) long-haul to holiday Caribbean destinations and they plan also US, Seychelles, Mauritius, etc.
I can't see the point of all that when more consolidation is needed and Air Europa is not in good shape. I feel that whenever (if) there is an economic slowdown, it will be 2010s all over again. Air Europa will be the new Spanair, and most of those niche carriers will disappear again.
OA260 wrote:Air Nostrum has extended its summer routes from Lanzarote, with regular flights to four Spanish cities.
https://gazettelife.com/news/new-routes ... -mainland/
Good news for ACE peninsular flights .
SCQ83 wrote:A route Air Nostrum could test is ACE-SCQ in peak summer.
Jayafe wrote:SCQ83 wrote:A route Air Nostrum could test is ACE-SCQ in peak summer.
I really doubt a village like Santiago can artificially handle more passengers that it currently does, as the dozens of millions of € every year almost every public regional administrations and “tourism foundations” have dumped for decades (although conveniently dressed up as legit) on LCCs for SCQ (including a new terminal / aka new airport as the old one stays empty and functional) to create a “city image” breaking the news with “atonishing success” (cof) have a limited range and won’t be able to stand forever.
A long waited political change will probably burst the bubble and allow the economic actors to drive fair competition and service in Galicia. SCQ has an expiration date for anything else than ultra-LCCs and political vanity. One more failed project in the village I’m afraid.