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TUGMASTER
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:48 pm

What exactly is the issue with 5G then..?
And why does it come about with trip 7 ops..?

Edit: I see the US 5G rollout has been delayed.
Again.
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:12 am

TUGMASTER wrote:
What exactly is the issue with 5G then..?
And why does it come about with trip 7 ops..?

Edit: I see the US 5G rollout has been delayed.
Again.

Somehow T-mobile has had zero issues with it (of all the carriers)
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:54 pm

January 20, 2022:

BA Cityflyer Embraer E190SR G-LCYY has been removed from the fleet and transferred from NWI to ENS for parking:

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... y#2a8e07b4
 
jumpjets
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:27 pm

I came across a post on twitter, though there was no source given for the comment, that BA EuroFlyer are chartering in some Iberia Express A320s for part of 2022 to support the Euroflyer ops in Gatwick.

Do BA not have enough aircraft of their own from the pre covid fleet to sustain the short haul operations they are planning from LGW or are they doing this because they are yet to recruit enough cabin crew at the presumably newer lower rates of pay to operate their own planes?
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:43 pm

ClassicLover wrote:
EssentialBusDC wrote:
Having never been on a 380, I am intrigued even if the timing isn’t the best for my travel plans.


What a question - take the A380, it's an experience and as others have said, very quiet.

There is nothing wrong with the old Club World, despite what people might think. The only suggestion, if you want a window seat and to be able to get in and out without stepping over someone is to choose 15A or 15K on the lower deck or 53A/53K or 59A/K on the upper deck. In order of best to worst, 53, 59 and 15... cause you'd want to sit upstairs. You can see the full BA seating plans on Aerolopa, which has the most accurate seating plans out there -

https://www.aerolopa.com/

Have a great trip! :)


Thank you for the information. I was able to get 53A. I never would have noticed aisle access just by glancing at the Seating chart.

And thank you to everyone else who responded to my query. Excited to see how big brother is compared to my versions of the little Bus. And to actually be able to go on this trip. It was originally supposed to happen in 2020.
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:23 pm

EssentialBusDC wrote:
Thank you for the information. I was able to get 53A. I never would have noticed aisle access just by glancing at the Seating chart.

And thank you to everyone else who responded to my query. Excited to see how big brother is compared to my versions of the little Bus. And to actually be able to go on this trip. It was originally supposed to happen in 2020.


I'm glad you were able to get a good seat, and the one I would have selected. You're also close to the Club Kitchen for inflight snacks (the banana and coffee cup on the aeroLOPA seating plan).

Wait until you see those toilets at the front of the upper deck, you could get about 8 people in there, they're that big. My only other tip is Champagne, Champagne, Champagne - haha! Have an excellent flight, you will love it!
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:08 pm

stl07 wrote:
TUGMASTER wrote:
What exactly is the issue with 5G then..?
And why does it come about with trip 7 ops..?

Edit: I see the US 5G rollout has been delayed.
Again.

Somehow T-mobile has had zero issues with it (of all the carriers)


The problem is C-band spectrum that uses a frequency range similar to airline equipment and there's the potential for interference. Verizon and AT&T are currently attempting to roll out in this spectrum range (C-band is 3.7 to 3.98 GHz), while T-Mobile's 5G current network is based on the 2.5GHz band, so it doesn't pose the same issue. T-Mobile does have some spectrum in that range, but aren't rolling it out yet.
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:50 pm

TUGMASTER wrote:
Believe JFK will be 77W only., or that was the plan, 77W with 76J replacing 86J 744.
But all flights with a 77wW, unlike the old mix of 744/772


If you check flight aware JFK-LHR right now is a mix of 2x 777-200ER daily and 2x 777-300ER daily.

With the recent news that the UK is getting rid of all mask mandates country wide, will BA be following suit and getting rid of mask mandates on the plane? Depends who you ask but it seems like that could be a real differentiator is someone picking to fly to europe on BA over another carrier that still has them?
 
by738
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:55 pm

perhaps there are issues about legalities of mask wearing at the destination end, regardless of legalities in England?
 
tonystan
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:32 pm

BA is maintaining its mask policy as is Virgin.
 
JumboMaiden
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:15 pm

jumpjets wrote:
I came across a post on twitter, though there was no source given for the comment, that BA EuroFlyer are chartering in some Iberia Express A320s for part of 2022 to support the Euroflyer ops in Gatwick.

Do BA not have enough aircraft of their own from the pre covid fleet to sustain the short haul operations they are planning from LGW or are they doing this because they are yet to recruit enough cabin crew at the presumably newer lower rates of pay to operate their own planes?


Probably not enough people. A large number of applications for cabin crew come in from Europe and none of those people can
work in the UK any more. There is a shortage of workers all over the country in the service industry. Cabin crew (and I guess all departments)
were offered an incentive payment for referrals too to get people to apply. I don't know any one who would recommend BA cabin crew as a place to work
right now. Management have started going through results of the Reality Check survey done end of last year and on the 28th Sean Doyle is
to announce what they plan to do about making BA a (radically) better place to work. Not directly connected to your question but it ties in.
 
by738
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:56 pm

JumboMaiden wrote:
Management have started going through results of the Reality Check survey done end of last year and on the 28th Sean Doyle is
to announce what they plan to do about making BA a (radically) better place to work. Not directly connected to your question but it ties in.

Wow, thats going to be some read. Will be interested to hear what he comes up with in a different direction to his Spanish predecessor
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:36 am

.[/quote]
Wow, thats going to be some read. Will be interested to hear what he comes up with in a different direction to his Spanish predecessor[/quote]

I am not holding my breath. If none of the management "team" change who have been key players and in three cases I can think of organizers of the
way things are then how can anything change? I still have the feeling that in 2020 when Sean Doyle (and others at that level) gave instructions to
department heads to apply change he thought that they were qualified in the kinds of studies and experience to know what, how and where to act.
They are not.

To get back on subject. of the 30+ aircraft on order of the long haul aircraft does anyone know if there will be config changes to things like
the really very poorly chosen and installed galleys on the A350 will be altered to include more practical use of the mid galley which isn't a galley
at all.
 
JDWW
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:26 pm

I’ve heard that BA have finalised their network plan for ‘22, anyone know when we can expect the delayed long haul deliveries if at all?
 
shankly
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:33 am

Nice to see BA back to double daily at Cape Town with the BA58/59 rotation returning last week alongside BA42/43.....we do however still miss the Queen down here
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:47 pm

Is it likely that the 777 will return to MAD in the near further or will IB just continue to operate two daily widebody services on the route with the A330/A350?
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:49 am

Please stick to the topic.
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:25 am

Where does BA operate their A380s (until summer) and is their a plan to operate it to more North American routes , MCO maybe for summer peak?
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:37 am

With today's announcement that the slot rules at UK airports have been tightened to 70/30 use it or lose it, I believe the recent news regarding Vueling expansion at Gatwick
and the chartering of up to 4 Iberia Express aircraft for BA Euroflyer is in part a response by IAG's need to use more of its slots at Gatwick during Summer 2022.
Will be interesting to see if there are any more route expansions at the airport by IAG in the coming weeks.
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:53 am

UAEflyer wrote:
Where does BA operate their A380s (until summer) and is their a plan to operate it to more North American routes , MCO maybe for summer peak?


They have been/is sending them to Frankfurt.
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:09 pm

UAEflyer wrote:
Where does BA operate their A380s (until summer) and is their a plan to operate it to more North American routes , MCO maybe for summer peak?

A basic check on fr24 has them on DXB and MIA for long haul with some FRA in the mix.
 
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Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:11 pm

UAEflyer wrote:
Where does BA operate their A380s (until summer) and is their a plan to operate it to more North American routes , MCO maybe for summer peak?


They operated them just for training puproses on LHR-MAD/FRA in November and then they started flying to DXB, MIA with DFW, LAX, JNB, SIN, SFO, BOS, IAD,ORD to be added gradually
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:14 pm

Thunderboltdrgn wrote:

They have been/is sending them to Frankfurt.

Just so that people are aware, these are not passenger flights.
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:00 am

BaronHamstead wrote:
With today's announcement that the slot rules at UK airports have been tightened to 70/30 use it or lose it, I believe the recent news regarding Vueling expansion at Gatwick
and the chartering of up to 4 Iberia Express aircraft for BA Euroflyer is in part a response by IAG's need to use more of its slots at Gatwick during Summer 2022.
Will be interesting to see if there are any more route expansions at the airport by IAG in the coming weeks.


They can't crew the Euroflyer schedule in time (desperately short of commands due T&Cs being offered and also can't train sufficient new entrant cabin crew) so the 4 Iberia Express wet leases are to cover that.
 
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Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:06 am

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817Dreamliiner wrote:
Thunderboltdrgn wrote:

They have been/is sending them to Frankfurt.

Just so that people are aware, these are not passenger flights.

This is the BA904/905? Please tell me they're at least flying cargo!
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:46 am

skipness1E wrote:
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817Dreamliiner wrote:
Thunderboltdrgn wrote:

They have been/is sending them to Frankfurt.

Just so that people are aware, these are not passenger flights.

This is the BA904/905? Please tell me they're at least flying cargo!


They are, yes, and in both directions.
 
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Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:52 am

BA777FO wrote:
skipness1E wrote:
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817Dreamliiner wrote:
Just so that people are aware, these are not passenger flights.

This is the BA904/905? Please tell me they're at least flying cargo!


They are, yes, and in both directions.


No, they're not. The rotation is operated as 904F/905F at the moment.
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:10 am

lhrsfosyd wrote:
BA777FO wrote:
skipness1E wrote:
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This is the BA904/905? Please tell me they're at least flying cargo!


They are, yes, and in both directions.


No, they're not. The rotation is operated as 904F/905F at the moment.


When I said yes they are, I meant cargo, in response to the last post I quoted. There's cargo, in both directions.
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:46 pm

G-YMML has completed refit and is currently on its way back to LHR.

Total completed: 38 aircraft:

23 Boeing 777-200ER (15 are GE powered and configured 8F 49J 40W 138Y and 8 are RR powered and configured 48J 40W 184Y).

5 Boeing 777-300ER configured 8F 76J 40W 130Y

2 Boeing 787-10 configured 8F 48J 35W 165Y

8 Airbus A350-1000 configured 56J 56W 219Y
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:01 am

817Dreamliiner wrote:
G-YMML has completed refit and is currently on its way back to LHR.

Total completed: 38 aircraft:

23 Boeing 777-200ER (15 are GE powered and configured 8F 49J 40W 138Y and 8 are RR powered and configured 48J 40W 184Y).

5 Boeing 777-300ER configured 8F 76J 40W 130Y

2 Boeing 787-10 configured 8F 48J 35W 165Y

8 Airbus A350-1000 configured 56J 56W 219Y


Do you have a breakdown of which 777 with the new F have the black and blue window fittings? Hoping they are on my JFK-LHR flight in may
 
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Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:07 am

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Do you have a breakdown of which 777 with the new F have the black and blue window fittings? Hoping they are on my JFK-LHR flight in may

The new(ish) F seat is on the High J 777s only ( the 76J 300ERs). They all have the new window blinds now and will show as "77W" as the aircraft type in your booking. All other 777 configurations show as "777".
 
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Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:36 am

All 777s have the window shades, however as 817Dreamliiner says, only the 76J have the newer seat, all the -200s and unrefurbished -300s have the old seat. The 787s and A380s don’t have illuminated window shades, however you’re unlikely to see them in JFK (although a 787 went recently due to 5G issues).
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:08 pm

So I was originally booked LHR to DEN return in Apr/May on the A350, but have since been emailed by BA about seat changes.

Looking at the seat maps provided, it appears we now have a 777W outbound and a 77E return. I searched the photos here (and on another photo website) and can see no BA 777W photos at DEN. Would this be a first flight for this type for BA at DEN?
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:23 pm

The guy from Big Jet TV caught this BA flight from ABZ struggling to land at LHR!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-60216196
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:45 pm

PoleHillSid wrote:
So I was originally booked LHR to DEN return in Apr/May on the A350, but have since been emailed by BA about seat changes.

Looking at the seat maps provided, it appears we now have a 777W outbound and a 77E return. I searched the photos here (and on another photo website) and can see no BA 777W photos at DEN. Would this be a first flight for this type for BA at DEN?


We have gotten them here in DEN as subs before, back before the upgauged to the 744 but this looks like the first time it’s been scheduled.
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Feb 05, 2022 3:03 pm

BA is exploring changing the layout of future A350s to make them more crew friendly. Seems they opted a high density layout which is causing issues on "ultra" long haul!

I've always wondered why they crammed 331 seats into their A350s when their new intake of B779s will only seat 325!

https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2022 ... and-a380s/
 
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BA Considering A350 Configuration Changes

Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:25 am

According to BA's Director of Brand and Customer Experience, Tom Stevens, BA is looking at changing the configuration of the A350 aircraft because it is so challenging for cabin crew to work on.

I've not flown on it, so I can't comment directly, but I have had conversations with crew, who universally pan the A350 as too cramped in the galleys. There are persistent rumours that the galley is so small, BA can't cater adequately for two meal services on long haul flights.

Good to know BA is listening to crew, and, more importantly, taking action.

https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2022/02/05/british-airways-admits-its-reevaluating-configuration-of-flagship-airbus-a350-jets-and-a380s/
 
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Re: BA Considering A350 Configuration Changes

Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:42 am

Worse than the galleys on the 787s?
 
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Re: BA Considering A350 Configuration Changes

Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:51 am

DFW17L wrote:
Worse than the galleys on the 787s?



Hah the 787 galley is a pleasure ground next to what BA didn't do with the A350.

One tiny galley at the front and a pokey sweatshop at the back and 331 passengers in between.
They denied emphatically that it was possible to use the facilities for the longer/bigger offering routes but someone
finally listened to crew who reacted.

*IF* modifications are made they will be be future deliveries because I can't see them adapting the 8 we have though
SOME modification might be easier (the bean counters might agree to) if the storage (it is not a galley) at the 2nd set of
doors has an extended chiller added and maybe even a set of brewers. As it is now it's a fancy "club kitchen" with a
handful of biscuits and a few bags of crisps and a fridge usually filled with stuff crew brought for their own consumption!
 
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Re: BA Considering A350 Configuration Changes

Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:05 am

So BA should be adopting a galley layout more similar to Virgin A35K
 
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Re: BA Considering A350 Configuration Changes

Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:53 pm

Cathay Pacific's A350-1000 configuration would be a better guide. Virgin has that lounge by the L/R2 doors.
 
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Re: BA Considering A350 Configuration Changes

Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:30 pm

vhtje wrote:
According to BA's Director of Brand and Customer Experience, Tom Stevens, BA is looking at changing the configuration of the A350 aircraft because it is so challenging for cabin crew to work on.

I've not flown on it, so I can't comment directly, but I have had conversations with crew, who universally pan the A350 as too cramped in the galleys. There are persistent rumours that the galley is so small, BA can't cater adequately for two meal services on long haul flights.

Good to know BA is listening to crew, and, more importantly, taking action.

https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2022/02/05/british-airways-admits-its-reevaluating-configuration-of-flagship-airbus-a350-jets-and-a380s/


I read the article. It appears that BA management decided to have a ULCC interior into their flagship long-haul plane. It would be a step in the right direction if they changed to a normal interior.
 
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Re: BA Considering A350 Configuration Changes

Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:58 pm

jfk777 wrote:
Cathay Pacific's A350-1000 configuration would be a better guide. Virgin has that lounge by the L/R2 doors.


Unfortunately the mentality at British Airways is that to say we're going to do it like ... (insert ANY one else) then
we're admitting defeat.
 
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Re: BA Considering A350 Configuration Changes

Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:28 pm

JumboMaiden wrote:
jfk777 wrote:
Cathay Pacific's A350-1000 configuration would be a better guide. Virgin has that lounge by the L/R2 doors.


Unfortunately the mentality at British Airways is that to say we're going to do it like ... (insert ANY one else) then
we're admitting defeat.


It is interesting that in the article it mentioned that the problem was brought up before and at that time BA refused to admit any problem yet to say they are the best (not exact word but to that effect).

Another point not related to your post is that, from the article I do not see any reference that BA is to change anything for the yet to be delivered 10 A35K aircrafts:

“We can’t go back and retrofit those aircraft easily, but we can make tweaks when we do cabin upgrades,” he continued.


Above quote is the only quotation on possible solution. That indicates to me that BA staff will continue working around the problems with A35K fleet for at least 8-10 years to come.
 
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Re: BA Considering A350 Configuration Changes

Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:37 pm

jfk777 wrote:
Virgin has that lounge by the L/R2 doors.

Which won’t last when their beancounters check the figures….
 
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Re: BA Considering A350 Configuration Changes

Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:33 pm

vhtje wrote:
According to BA's Director of Brand and Customer Experience, Tom Stevens, BA is looking at changing the configuration of the A350 aircraft because it is so challenging for cabin crew to work on.

I've not flown on it, so I can't comment directly, but I have had conversations with crew, who universally pan the A350 as too cramped in the galleys. There are persistent rumours that the galley is so small, BA can't cater adequately for two meal services on long haul flights.

Good to know BA is listening to crew, and, more importantly, taking action.

https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2022/02/05/british-airways-admits-its-reevaluating-configuration-of-flagship-airbus-a350-jets-and-a380s/


“It’s fair to say that some of the aircraft we have today were not designed to be crew friendly or service centric,” Stevens told employees in the internal Q&A session.“

That’s a pretty remarkable statement. BA doesn’t think about it’s cabin staff and how they work. Nor does BA think about the service they offer to their passengers. Of course, we’ve known this all along. The business is about maximizing profit through seat mix and margins within classes. Others just do a better job of hiding it.
 
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Re: BA Considering A350 Configuration Changes

Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:27 am

max999 wrote:
vhtje wrote:
According to BA's Director of Brand and Customer Experience, Tom Stevens, BA is looking at changing the configuration of the A350 aircraft because it is so challenging for cabin crew to work on.

I've not flown on it, so I can't comment directly, but I have had conversations with crew, who universally pan the A350 as too cramped in the galleys. There are persistent rumours that the galley is so small, BA can't cater adequately for two meal services on long haul flights.

Good to know BA is listening to crew, and, more importantly, taking action.

https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2022/02/05/british-airways-admits-its-reevaluating-configuration-of-flagship-airbus-a350-jets-and-a380s/


I read the article. It appears that BA management decided to have a ULCC interior into their flagship long-haul plane. It would be a step in the right direction if they changed to a normal interior.



Definitely!! As to "flagship long-haul plane", I think the longest sector is the LHR-GIG run...most are DXB, BLR and YVR.

Even their B779s will only have a total seat count of 325. It did seem odd that their A350s got such a dense layout. Maybe because Alex Cruz was the head honcho at the time?
 
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Re: BA Considering A350 Configuration Changes

Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:40 am

Scotron12 wrote:
max999 wrote:
vhtje wrote:
According to BA's Director of Brand and Customer Experience, Tom Stevens, BA is looking at changing the configuration of the A350 aircraft because it is so challenging for cabin crew to work on.

I've not flown on it, so I can't comment directly, but I have had conversations with crew, who universally pan the A350 as too cramped in the galleys. There are persistent rumours that the galley is so small, BA can't cater adequately for two meal services on long haul flights.

Good to know BA is listening to crew, and, more importantly, taking action.

https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2022/02/05/british-airways-admits-its-reevaluating-configuration-of-flagship-airbus-a350-jets-and-a380s/


I read the article. It appears that BA management decided to have a ULCC interior into their flagship long-haul plane. It would be a step in the right direction if they changed to a normal interior.



Definitely!! As to "flagship long-haul plane", I think the longest sector is the LHR-GIG run...most are DXB, BLR and YVR.

Even their B779s will only have a total seat count of 325. It did seem odd that their A350s got such a dense layout. Maybe because Alex Cruz was the head honcho at the time?


A350s don’t have FC
 
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Re: BA Considering A350 Configuration Changes

Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:24 pm

BA's B772 and B77W have the same rear galley config as the A35K so they should know if that config works or not. Is the problem that the A35K is more narrow at the back and the physical space between the galley units are too narrow compared to the B777?

Also interesting that the B788/789/78X are quite low-density (214/216/256 seats) while they packed in 331 seats in the A35K and they all fly the same routes.
 
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Re: BA Considering A350 Configuration Changes

Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:43 pm

CRJ900 wrote:
BA's B772 and B77W have the same rear galley config as the A35K so they should know if that config works or not. Is the problem that the A35K is more narrow at the back and the physical space between the galley units are too narrow compared to the B777?

Also interesting that the B788/789/78X are quite low-density (214/216/256 seats) while they packed in 331 seats in the A35K and they all fly the same routes.



Historically, BA has always had low density cabins. Why they went with such a high count on their A350-1000s is a mystery to me, plus no F cabin! With they downward trend in F, Im sure they could have an 8 F cabin easily.
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