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Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:10 pm

Definitely gates. With all the current delays, inbound aircraft are sitting on the taxiways for up to an hour, literally! Ten out of the twelve A380s are currently back in service, and there's only 6 A380 capable stands on T5. Usually flights are timed so that outbounds have left before inbounds arrive. But at the moment this is not working due to all the mega outbound delays though lack of ground staffing.
 
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Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:20 pm

There's way more than 6 A380 capable stands at T5, even T5B handles A380s, only 6 gates, all on T5C, have 3 airbridges. They CAN use other gates, if they manage it well, which currently, isn't even close.
 
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Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:22 pm

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8herveg wrote:
Is it generally lack of gate space that is preventing BA from operating all of its LHR flights from T5, or would it need a bigger T5A (check-in, security etc.) to solve the issue? Or would a T5D solve the issue?

Thanks

It's simply not big enough. When Rod Eddingon de-hubbed Gatwick and brought most of the long haul fleet home, the plan to consolidate in T5 was abandoned before it even opened. The old T1/T4 and some T3 split became T5 and some T3.
 
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Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:23 pm

Forget about the alleged T5D, that will gain zero stands, as all are currently in use., either for arrivals/ depts or remote parking.
As mentioned up thread, T5 has NO free space.
 
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Sun Jul 17, 2022 3:25 pm

gsg013 wrote:
I asked maybe a month ago, but have yet to see an answer.. BA is flying the 787-9 on BNA-LHR but they do not seem to be selling F on the route. is the F cabin going out empty or are they allowing people to reserve the F cabin but with J service?


I asked the crew on that flight the other day and they confirmed they just seating J passengers in F and doing J service.
 
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Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:45 am

Westerwaelder wrote:
It was LGW to ISB and it looks like it's been dropped for the time being. Hasn't appeared at LHR yet.


BA was operating out of LGW from what I understand is that LGW 777 was the right aircraft for the market, and lot of pax were going onwards to MAN. I assume the 777s at LHR have first class, which aren't needed for the ISB market. Only aircraft available was to use a 788 which was to small for the market. During the pandemic BA was operating the Gatwick 777 from LHR to ISB, but as things started normalize they shifted that aircraft and flight to LGW. This was flight was 6 to 7 times week depending on the season. BA has put hold on the flight, they haven't pulled out, I guess due to operation constraints. Flight is showing bookable from August 2nd on the 787 from LHR.

BA was operating to Lahore, but have discontinued recently, only VS is operating (Lahore - 4 times week) and (Islamabad - 3 times a week) direct from LHR, and ISB also gets service directly from (MAN - 4 times a week) as well.
 
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Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:47 am

LH658 wrote:
Westerwaelder wrote:
It was LGW to ISB and it looks like it's been dropped for the time being. Hasn't appeared at LHR yet.


BA was operating out of LGW from what I understand is that LGW 777 was the right aircraft for the market, and lot of pax were going onwards to MAN. I assume the 777s at LHR have first class, which aren't needed for the ISB market. Only aircraft available was to use a 788 which was to small for the market. During the pandemic BA was operating the Gatwick 777 from LHR to ISB, but as things started normalize they shifted that aircraft and flight to LGW. This was flight was 6 to 7 times week depending on the season. BA has put hold on the flight, they haven't pulled out, I guess due to operation constraints. Flight is showing bookable from August 2nd on the 787 from LHR.

BA was operating to Lahore, but have discontinued recently, only VS is operating (Lahore - 4 times week) and (Islamabad - 3 times a week) direct from LHR, and ISB also gets service directly from (MAN - 4 times a week) as well.


BA has 3-class 777s at Heathrow, but with 48J seats, versus the 32J seats on the Gatwick 777s. Similarly instead of ~180Y seats on the LHR 3 class 777s there are 248 on the LGW 777s with RR engines. The 3-class A350 also has too many J seats for this market.

With 2x daily Orlando flights from LGW there just isn't enough airframes to do the ISB as well (similarly PUJ is now a shuttle from ANU rather than direct for the same reason).

Looks like ISB will be back at LGW for winter 22 though along with DOH for the world cup.
 
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Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:05 am

BA777FO wrote:
LH658 wrote:
Westerwaelder wrote:
It was LGW to ISB and it looks like it's been dropped for the time being. Hasn't appeared at LHR yet.


BA was operating out of LGW from what I understand is that LGW 777 was the right aircraft for the market, and lot of pax were going onwards to MAN. I assume the 777s at LHR have first class, which aren't needed for the ISB market. Only aircraft available was to use a 788 which was to small for the market. During the pandemic BA was operating the Gatwick 777 from LHR to ISB, but as things started normalize they shifted that aircraft and flight to LGW. This was flight was 6 to 7 times week depending on the season. BA has put hold on the flight, they haven't pulled out, I guess due to operation constraints. Flight is showing bookable from August 2nd on the 787 from LHR.

BA was operating to Lahore, but have discontinued recently, only VS is operating (Lahore - 4 times week) and (Islamabad - 3 times a week) direct from LHR, and ISB also gets service directly from (MAN - 4 times a week) as well.


BA has 3-class 777s at Heathrow, but with 48J seats, versus the 32J seats on the Gatwick 777s. Similarly instead of ~180Y seats on the LHR 3 class 777s there are 248 on the LGW 777s with RR engines. The 3-class A350 also has too many J seats for this market.

With 2x daily Orlando flights from LGW there just isn't enough airframes to do the ISB as well (similarly PUJ is now a shuttle from ANU rather than direct for the same reason).

Looks like ISB will be back at LGW for winter 22 though along with DOH for the world cup.


According to BA website flights are restarting in August 2022 on a 787 from LHR.
 
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Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:22 pm

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Yes, it is correct. LHR-SAN is being downgauged on 1JUL22 to the 77E (I believe it is the 3 class ones, not 4) and frequency is reduced from daily to 6x w.

https://twitter.com/lb_SFO/status/1537494255496617985


It’s actually 4-class 773 but F being sold as J cabin.
 
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Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:45 am

Downside to the LGW 777 seats in Y is - no 110/220 VAC power ports...
 
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Fri Jul 22, 2022 5:21 pm

And now some good news, BA staff have just cancelled their proposed strike this summer. :)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62267324
 
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Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:13 pm

Now that all of BA’s cabin crew at LHR are flying together as Heathrow Fleet, it did get me thinking about how the cabin crew organisation has evolved over the last few years.

Pre-pandemic; it was split Eurofleet (A320/shorthaul B767), Worldwide Fleet (longhaul B767/B777/B747/B787/A380) and Mixed Fleet (A320/A380/B747/B777/B787).

As I understand it, before then, it was just Eurofleet doing shorthaul and Worldwide doing longhaul. A lot of people used to mention “Mid Fleet” when Mixed Fleet was around. What was this? There doesn’t seem to be much mention of it online except that it was for B757/B767s at some point in the 1990s, but no information on when it was launched and disbanded.

On a related note, were Tristars crewed by longhaul or shorthaul crew depending on what routes they operated like the B767s or were they crewed by dedicated cabin crew?
 
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Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:05 am

* BA defers return to BKK until NS2023, was due to return in OCT22
* Singapore gets a second daily flight, eff 30OCT22, 789 (BA11/12)
* LHR-SIN-SYD upgauged to the 4-class 77W, eff 30OCT22

https://simpleflying.com/british-airway ... singapore/
 
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Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:44 pm

British Airways pilots are clamouring for a ballot on strike action in a fresh blow for holidaymakers after airline chiefs rejected demands for a new pay deal.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... ke-action/

Under growing pressure from members, the pilots' union Balpa is preparing to threaten industrial action after a wave of ballots secured wage increases for check-in and baggage staff.
 
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Fri Jul 29, 2022 8:47 pm

I was looking at Planespotters and FR24 earlier;

Apparently all the parked A319/A320/A380 and B777 are now back in service, plus 5 A321-ceo.
 
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Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:46 am

BA suspends sales of short-haul tickets from Heathrow

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62386909
 
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Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:37 pm

Also heard some rumours that Puerto Plata in the Dominican Republic could be on the cards.

A BA delegation visited the airport in March.
 
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Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:46 pm

BangersAndMash wrote:
Also heard some rumours that Puerto Plata in the Dominican Republic could be on the cards.

A BA delegation visited the airport in March.


Two key elements of the Caribbean network - 1) Does it tick the box for ‘premium leisure’, and/or 2) Does it have a strong VFR demand? Puerta Plata doesn’t seem to tick either.
 
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Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:08 pm

LuxuryTravelled wrote:
BangersAndMash wrote:
Also heard some rumours that Puerto Plata in the Dominican Republic could be on the cards.

A BA delegation visited the airport in March.


Two key elements of the Caribbean network - 1) Does it tick the box for ‘premium leisure’, and/or 2) Does it have a strong VFR demand? Puerta Plata doesn’t seem to tick either.


Because Cancun and Punta Cana just scream premium leisure. Or Aruba for that matter, which BA is just launching. Not much VFR demand there either, by the way.
 
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Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:13 pm

GRUIAD wrote:
doorstomanual79 wrote:

Yes, it is correct. LHR-SAN is being downgauged on 1JUL22 to the 77E (I believe it is the 3 class ones, not 4) and frequency is reduced from daily to 6x w.

https://twitter.com/lb_SFO/status/1537494255496617985


It’s actually 4-class 773 but F being sold as J cabin.


BNA, SAN….. They do this in Canada as well, at YYZ and YUL, which sometimes sees the 789 instead of the 788, but F sold as J. YVR is the only exception, which actually sees proper F class. I’m sure there are other airports as well where this happens.

Why do they do this to so many destinations? Isn’t it a waste of revenue for BA to outfit so many aircraft with F and then simply sell it as J?

It’s time BA densifies some of its aircraft with 3 class cabins instead of 4.
 
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Thu Aug 11, 2022 5:13 pm

If premium leisure demand is what influences BA to a new Caribbean destination, then why not SXM ? Thats the international gateway to loads of luxury island retreats the uber wealthy love. As seen by the amount of biz jets there on any one day.
 
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Fri Aug 12, 2022 3:14 am

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If premium leisure demand is what influences BA to a new Caribbean destination, then why not SXM ? Thats the international gateway to loads of luxury island retreats the uber wealthy love. As seen by the amount of biz jets there on any one day.


I personally don't feel like there is much other demand outside of AMS/CDG to SXM. It's a Dutch/French territory.

Plus SXM has a short runway (7,546 feet) which would be very difficult to operate of. Curious to how Air France deals with CDG-SXM-CDG, especially with departure from SXM. There must be severe weight limits on departure from SXM to CDG since the runway is so short.
 
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Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:40 am

3D101CA wrote:
TC957 wrote:
If premium leisure demand is what influences BA to a new Caribbean destination, then why not SXM ? Thats the international gateway to loads of luxury island retreats the uber wealthy love. As seen by the amount of biz jets there on any one day.


I personally don't feel like there is much other demand outside of AMS/CDG to SXM. It's a Dutch/French territory.

Plus SXM has a short runway (7,546 feet) which would be very difficult to operate of. Curious to how Air France deals with CDG-SXM-CDG, especially with departure from SXM. There must be severe weight limits on departure from SXM to CDG since the runway is so short.



The same could be said about Aruba, that's Dutch territory.
 
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Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:34 am

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I personally don't feel like there is much other demand outside of AMS/CDG to SXM. It's a Dutch/French territory.


The USA is by far the largest SXM market, there is no reason why the UK market could not be developed in addition to France and the Netherlands.
Airlines are not about existing markets only, they develop new markets and the Brits have a long standing relationship with the Caribbean islands.
BA's decision to commence 3x weekly B772 LGW-Aruba in 2023 is a perfect illustration of the airline's view that it can expand to new (Dutch) Caribbean islands.

3D101CA wrote:

Plus SXM has a short runway (7,546 feet) which would be very difficult to operate of. Curious to how Air France deals with CDG-SXM-CDG, especially with departure from SXM. There must be severe weight limits on departure from SXM to CDG since the runway is so short.


Both KLM and AF operate(d) A330's non-stop Europe-SXM-Europe, but KL prefers an intermediate stop in the Caribbean - currently the KL A332 operates AMS-SXM-POS-AMS.
Most BA routes to the Caribbean have multiple stops, so the SXM runway should not preclude an LGW-SXM operation by BA via one of the other islands.
 
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Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:41 am

12th A380 is coming back to service.
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The aircraft has now flown back to Manila for return to service maintenance with Lufthansa Technik. According to FlightRadar24.com, the plane took off from Madrid as BA9173 at 06:59 on August 3rd.
It landed in Manila almost 14 hours later at 02:41, before taxiing to the Lufthansa Technik apron. Once the jet has undergone its return to service maintenance, Simple Flying understands that it is expected to return to the active fleet at London Heathrow. This will mean that the entire fleet of 12 aircraft has been removed from storage and returned to revenue service.

https://simpleflying.com/british-airway ... o-service/
 
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Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:50 am

lets hope the tech checks are better than last ones plaguing the rest of the A380s there tech delays have been terrible for months. Though seem to recall not great pre-pandemic
 
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BA union ground staff vote to approve pay agreement.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... f=n8bLghRJ
 
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Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:08 am

I was supposed to be on an A350 next month to DXB but had to postpone to October, and I’m now in J on an A380, which seems remarkably empty and perhaps oversized for the route. How firm do we think the October schedule is? Wondering if we could somehow end up on something with Club Suites again…
 
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Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:09 am

What are the chances of BA coming to SLC within the next couple years?
 
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Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:02 am

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What are the chances of BA coming to SLC within the next couple years?


With no significant OW alliance, and DL flying to multiple Euro destinations from SLC? Would have to rely on O&D, which it wouldn’t get. Wouldn’t think probable in the short term.
 
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Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:48 am

BA fly to Atlanta just 5x per week, rising to daily later in the year. Atlanta has far more potential for O&D traffic than Salt Lake, yet it's been one of BA's less profitable North America routes for a long time
Never say never, but I think it would be very unlikely for BA to fly to SLC any time soon
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Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:53 am

Early internal predictions are that, this coming winter BA will operate one of its busiest long haul winter schedules yet.

HKG, HND and PVG will be restarting, with extra rotations to some other destinations likely.

The following destinations remain suspended: AUH, MCT, ICN, PKX, KUL, CHS, DUR, SEZ. There is also the possibility of more new long haul route announcements in addition to those services to AUA, GEO and POS recently announced as part of the long haul LGW programme expansion.

It would not surprise me if there were some new short haul destinations announced. Pre-COVID there were plans to start flights to RIX, GDN, WRO and CLJ.

A temporary cabin crew base in BCN has been announced to bolster CC numbers, it will operate in the same way as temporary base in MAD. New hire training is in full swing, but new recruits started on an almost daily basis.

Having said all this, with current resource issues both within BA and at LHR in general, as well as aircraft and crew availability, any expansion may be a challenge.
 
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Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:04 pm

Does anyone know why BA190 (AUS-LHR) changes from an A350 to 777 at the beginning of September? It is my first time flying international business class and am disappointed that it will be in the old Club World instead of the new Club Suite.
 
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Fri Aug 19, 2022 6:54 pm

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Does anyone know why BA190 (AUS-LHR) changes from an A350 to 777 at the beginning of September? It is my first time flying international business class and am disappointed that it will be in the old Club World instead of the new Club Suite.

I think some 777-2's have new hard product.. you might get lucky if it is one of those!
 
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alancostello wrote:
I was supposed to be on an A350 next month to DXB but had to postpone to October, and I’m now in J on an A380, which seems remarkably empty and perhaps oversized for the route. How firm do we think the October schedule is? Wondering if we could somehow end up on something with Club Suites again…


DXB has been 380 before the pandemic so it's not completely out there. The last 380 bird is confirmed to be coming back into the fold so it isn't unrealistic that DXB has been up-gauged. Even with a LHR cap extension, the aeroplane has to fly somewhere.
 
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Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:13 pm

as expected LHR-MCO has been culled retreating back to LGW, perhaps less ‘Premium Leisure’
 
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Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:15 pm

davidjohnson6 wrote:
BA fly to Atlanta just 5x per week, rising to daily later in the year. Atlanta has far more potential for O&D traffic than Salt Lake, yet it's been one of BA's less profitable North America routes for a long time
Never say never, but I think it would be very unlikely for BA to fly to SLC any time soon

How do you know the profitability level on a particular route?
 
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skipness1E wrote:
davidjohnson6 wrote:
BA fly to Atlanta just 5x per week, rising to daily later in the year. Atlanta has far more potential for O&D traffic than Salt Lake, yet it's been one of BA's less profitable North America routes for a long time
Never say never, but I think it would be very unlikely for BA to fly to SLC any time soon

How do you know the profitability level on a particular route?

I read this somewhere reputable - I'm afraid I can't remember where.
As circumstantial evidence, if BA are flying LHR-ATL 5x weekly in September, while VS/DL are flying 21x weekly (plus all the additional frequencies between ATL and CDG / AMS to connect to European destinations), there's probably a good reason why BA are choosing not to deploy additional metal on the route
 
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Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:50 am

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* BA defers return to BKK until NS2023, was due to return in OCT22
* Singapore gets a second daily flight, eff 30OCT22, 789 (BA11/12)
* LHR-SIN-SYD upgauged to the 4-class 77W, eff 30OCT22

https://simpleflying.com/british-airway ... singapore/


Any thoughts on why BA isn’t putting the 380 back to SIN or at least a 77W for the second daily flight instead of a 789? Considering SQ and QF have essentially restored all lost capacity on this route and the gulf carriers have not may be a good chance to restore all capacity
 
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Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:33 am

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dcajet wrote:
* BA defers return to BKK until NS2023, was due to return in OCT22
* Singapore gets a second daily flight, eff 30OCT22, 789 (BA11/12)
* LHR-SIN-SYD upgauged to the 4-class 77W, eff 30OCT22

https://simpleflying.com/british-airway ... singapore/


Any thoughts on why BA isn’t putting the 380 back to SIN or at least a 77W for the second daily flight instead of a 789? Considering SQ and QF have essentially restored all lost capacity on this route and the gulf carriers have not may be a good chance to restore all capacity


BA only have 12 A380s and all go to North America and JNB at the moment. I would say higher yields there, I would think at some point SIN will return when Things have 100% recovered and they feel the A380 can make more money there than flying to Notre America.

SQ Likely have to use their slots, they did have 3 A380s to LHR at one point, currently 2x A380, 1x77W, 1x 359 without F, remember SQ connect many places particularly to Australia/NZ where overall capacity is lower, SQ have more capacity to Australia/NZ than anyone else.

QF have a single A380 SIN-LHR while the gulf carriers I would have thought have mostly restored LHR capacity, EK are 6 daily A380s again.
 
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Club Suite update

Total completed: 45 aircraft:

25 Boeing 777-200ER (15 are GE powered and configured 8F 49J 40W 138Y and 10 are RR powered and configured 48J 40W 184Y).

6 Boeing 777-300ER configured 8F 76J 40W 130Y

2 Boeing 787-10 configured 8F 48J 35W 165Y

12 Airbus A350-1000 configured 56J 56W 219Y


Club Suite update

Total completed: 48 aircraft:

25 Boeing 777-200ER (15 are GE powered and configured 8F 49J 40W 138Y and 10 are RR powered and configured 48J 40W 184Y).

9 Boeing 777-300ER configured 8F 76J 40W 130Y

2 Boeing 787-10 configured 8F 48J 35W 165Y

12 Airbus A350-1000 configured 56J 56W 219Y
 
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Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:51 am

BA dropping LCY-LUX from October - wonder what drove this decision?
 
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Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:59 am

planemanofnz wrote:
BA dropping LCY-LUX from October - wonder what drove this decision?


Luxair already serve this route up to 7 daily pre corona and now around 6 times daily. BA was operating 3 daily and had some cancellations so I presume that didn’t help.
 
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seansasLCY wrote:
planemanofnz wrote:
BA dropping LCY-LUX from October - wonder what drove this decision?


Luxair already serve this route up to 7 daily pre corona and now around 6 times daily. BA was operating 3 daily and had some cancellations so I presume that didn’t help.


I personally never understood the logic of moving some of the capacity to LCY from LHR in the first place. Just went head to head on the shuttle with LG, which is a very decent airline, while LHR gave BA a differential in connections beyond.
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:50 am

So LUX is now dropped entirely?
 
jumpjets
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:45 pm

skipness1E wrote:
So LUX is now dropped entirely?


No - I just did a dummy booking for November and BA have two flights from LHR to LUX and vv on the dates i chose.
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:43 am

eurotrader85 wrote:
seansasLCY wrote:
planemanofnz wrote:
BA dropping LCY-LUX from October - wonder what drove this decision?


Luxair already serve this route up to 7 daily pre corona and now around 6 times daily. BA was operating 3 daily and had some cancellations so I presume that didn’t help.


I personally never understood the logic of moving some of the capacity to LCY from LHR in the first place.

Time-sensitive traffic, perhaps? It would probably be O&D-dominated, and businesspeople wouldn't want to waste time commuting into the CBD from LHR.

seansasLCY wrote:
planemanofnz wrote:
BA dropping LCY-LUX from October - wonder what drove this decision?


Luxair already serve this route up to 7 daily pre corona and now around 6 times daily. BA was operating 3 daily and had some cancellations so I presume that didn’t help.

Still surprised BA couldn't hold its own though, given its strong FFP base in LON, as well as its use of jets against LG's props for a more comfortable ride.
 
davidjohnson6
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:14 am

How much of LON-LUX traffic is driven by accountants, bankers and lawyers travelling for work ? The finance work in Luxembourg is very much behind-the-scenes - client facing happens in other cities. Bankers probably all prefer high frequency at LCY. The UK Govt EU-related traffic has reduced significantly
Furthermore how much of the traffic is LUX originating, or at least those staying long term in LUX, and thus less liky to be interestes in BA's FF scheme ?
 
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:31 am

planemanofnz wrote:
eurotrader85 wrote:
seansasLCY wrote:

Luxair already serve this route up to 7 daily pre corona and now around 6 times daily. BA was operating 3 daily and had some cancellations so I presume that didn’t help.


I personally never understood the logic of moving some of the capacity to LCY from LHR in the first place.

Time-sensitive traffic, perhaps? It would probably be O&D-dominated, and businesspeople wouldn't want to waste time commuting into the CBD from LHR.

seansasLCY wrote:
planemanofnz wrote:
BA dropping LCY-LUX from October - wonder what drove this decision?


Luxair already serve this route up to 7 daily pre corona and now around 6 times daily. BA was operating 3 daily and had some cancellations so I presume that didn’t help.

Still surprised BA couldn't hold its own though, given its strong FFP base in LON, as well as its use of jets against LG's props for a more comfortable ride.


Luxair offer a very good schedule. They night stop a Q400 at LCY and offer the first outbound flight of the day and are one of the first arrivals into LCY. They also offer one of the last flights back into LCY really allowing you to maximise you day in either destination.
 
concordeforever
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Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:19 pm

LHR to LUX is already operating. Saw a BA Bus on the ramp yesterday with BA424 Luxemburg on the front.

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