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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:48 pm

Seems like a good schedule extension for MCI/IND. FL remains stagnant.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:04 pm

Good to see some longer routes coming back, ones mentioned above, STL-OAK finally back to 6x a week after randomly being in the schedule 1x a week here and there. STL-LAX up to 3x a day during the week also. Hasn't been more than 1x during covid.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:41 pm

avi8 wrote:
Seems like a good schedule extension for MCI/IND. FL remains stagnant.


Looking at Fridays
MCI-MDW up to 8x (7x pre-covid June)
MCI-PHX up to 5x (3x pre-covid June)
MCI-LAX up to 3x (2x pre-covid June)
MCI-SAN back up to 2x (1x pre-covid June)
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:44 pm

Jshank83 wrote:

Route map isn’t updated so not sure if anything else is new.


now updated
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:56 pm

PITFlyer330 wrote:
nothing new got added?


WN has added Saturday-only DEN-BLI/MYR and DSM-MCO nonstop service, according to an article from the Points Guy at https://thepointsguy.com/news/southwest ... -schedule/.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Thu Oct 27, 2022 4:19 pm

For Jshank83:

From their third qtr results:
“…the Company now expects to end the year with 768 aircraft, compared with its previous guidance of 765 aircraft.”

Looks like they’ll finally be fleet positive compared with 2H 2019.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Thu Oct 27, 2022 4:26 pm

airplaneboy wrote:
For Jshank83:

From their third qtr results:
“…the Company now expects to end the year with 768 aircraft, compared with its previous guidance of 765 aircraft.”

Looks like they’ll finally be fleet positive compared with 2H 2019.


Thank you.

I also saw a tweet that they were still short pilots. I can't remember the percentage.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:31 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
avi8 wrote:
Seems like a good schedule extension for MCI/IND. FL remains stagnant.


Looking at Fridays
MCI-MDW up to 8x (7x pre-covid June)
MCI-PHX up to 5x (3x pre-covid June)
MCI-LAX up to 3x (2x pre-covid June)
MCI-SAN back up to 2x (1x pre-covid June)


This is great. IND is back, in addition to these, so it looks like they're taking advantage of the new terminal.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:13 am

PSP-PHX goes away in June.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:27 am

sprxUSA wrote:
PSP-PHX goes away in June.


May and June schedule definitely isn't the same. Most is, I think, but I have noticed some differences. At first I assumed they were.

Next update is in 2 1/2 weeks. Pushes out another month
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:06 am

Jshank83 wrote:
sprxUSA wrote:
PSP-PHX goes away in June.



Next update is in 2 1/2 weeks. Pushes out another month

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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:13 am

I wonder when/if WN will bring back 2 daily services between PHL-MCO/TPA/FLL. Hopefully, they make some kind of attempt to restore their North Eastern network even though it was already small before COVID.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:34 pm

Here is the breakdown of WN nonstop service out of DAL on weekdays in June 2023 (196 daily departures):
4x ABQ, 4x AMA, 5x ATL, 9x AUS, 5x BWI, 2x BHM, 1x BUR, 1x CHS, 1x CLT, 7x MDW, 4x ORD, 3x COS, 1x CMH, 9x DEN, 1x VPS, 5x ELP, 2x FLL, 5x IAH, 12x HOU, 2x IND, 5x MCI, 7x LAS, 3x LIT, 1x LGB, 4x LAX, 5x LBB, 1x MEM, 1x MIA, 5x MAF, 1x MKE, 6x BNA, 7x MSY, 4x LGA, 2x OAK, 1x OMA, 1x ONT, 1x SNA, 8x MCO, 2x ECP, 1x PNS, 8x PHX, 1x PIT, 1x RDU, 1x SMF, 2x SLC, 9x SAT, 3x SAN, 2x SJC, 1x SAV, 6x STL, 4x TPA, 4x TUL, 5x DCA

WN additionally also has Saturday-only DAL-BZN/RNO/SRQ/SEA nonstop service, Sunday-only DAL-PHL nonstop service, and weekend-only DAL-RSW/HRL/JAX/SDF/MSP/MYR/ORF/PDX nonstop service in June 2023.

DAL-BOS/DTW/OKC/SFO are the only routes served nonstop by WN out of DAL in Summer 2019 that don't have any WN nonstop service out of DAL in Summer 2023, but WN permanently discontinued DAL-OKC/SFO nonstop service prior to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Markets served nonstop from DAL in June 2019 that have more WN nonstop service out of DAL in June 2023 than in June 2019:
BWI/DCA - 5x DAL-BWI + 5x DAL-DCA in June 2023 vs. 4x DAL-BWI + 5x DAL-DCA in June 2019 (+1)
MDW/ORD - 7x DAL-MDW + 4x DAL-ORD in June 2023 vs. 7x DAL-MDW in June 2019 (+4)
DEN - 9x DAL-DEN in June 2023 vs. 7x DAL-DEN in June 2019 (+2)
ELP - 5x DAL-ELP in June 2023 vs. 4x DAL-ELP in June 2019 (+1)
IND - 2x DAL-IND in June 2023 vs. 1x DAL-IND in June 2019 (+1)
LAS - 7x DAL-LAS in June 2023 vs. 5x DAL-LAS in June 2019 (+2)
BNA - 6x DAL-BNA in June 2023 vs. 5x DAL-BNA in June 2019 (+1)
MCO - 8x DAL-MCO in June 2023 vs. 4x DAL-MCO in June 2019 (+4)
PHX - 8x DAL-PHX in June 2023 vs. 6x DAL-PHX in June 2019 (+2)
SLC - 2x DAL-SLC in June 2023 vs. 1x DAL-SLC in June 2019 (+1)
TPA - 4x DAL-TPA in June 2023 vs. 3x DAL-TPA in June 2019 (+1)

WN can reduce frequencies on other routes out of DAL to accommodate the return of daily nonstop service to BOS/DTW/JAX/SDF/MSP/PHL/PDX/SEA out of DAL as there are some markets that have more nonstop flights out of DAL in June 2023 than in June 2019. WN also would be able to upgauge more of the flights out of DAL from the 737-700 to the 737-800 or 737 MAX 8 once WN takes delivery of additional 737 MAX 8 planes.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:39 pm

Dtwramp wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
sprxUSA wrote:
PSP-PHX goes away in June.



Next update is in 2 1/2 weeks. Pushes out another month

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It is just October isn't it..... Whoops :spin:
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:57 pm

With this schedule extension, MSP goes up to 23 daily flights to 7 cities, with 17/23 to MDW/DEN.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Fri Oct 28, 2022 5:26 pm

WN will be increasing DEN-EUG nonstop service from Saturday-only nonstop service to daily nonstop service starting on 4/11/2023, and WN will be increasing DEN-CVG/GRR/JAX nonstop service from Saturday-only nonstop service to daily nonstop service starting on 6/3/2023.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Fri Oct 28, 2022 5:51 pm

jplatts wrote:
WN will be increasing DEN-EUG nonstop service from Saturday-only nonstop service to daily nonstop service starting on 4/11/2023, and WN will be increasing DEN-CVG/GRR/JAX nonstop service from Saturday-only nonstop service to daily nonstop service starting on 6/3/2023.


Great news! They must be really happy with EUG.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Fri Oct 28, 2022 6:19 pm

jplatts wrote:
WN will be increasing DEN-EUG nonstop service from Saturday-only nonstop service to daily nonstop service starting on 4/11/2023, and WN will be increasing DEN-CVG/GRR/JAX nonstop service from Saturday-only nonstop service to daily nonstop service starting on 6/3/2023.


DEN-GRR was previously 3-4 daily.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:58 pm

phllax wrote:
jplatts wrote:
WN will be increasing DEN-EUG nonstop service from Saturday-only nonstop service to daily nonstop service starting on 4/11/2023, and WN will be increasing DEN-CVG/GRR/JAX nonstop service from Saturday-only nonstop service to daily nonstop service starting on 6/3/2023.


DEN-GRR was previously 3-4 daily.


Are you thinking of a different route? It was 1x in summer 2019 at least. I’m not sure they ever operated 2x, let alone 3 or 4.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:17 pm

phllax wrote:
jplatts wrote:
WN will be increasing DEN-EUG nonstop service from Saturday-only nonstop service to daily nonstop service starting on 4/11/2023, and WN will be increasing DEN-CVG/GRR/JAX nonstop service from Saturday-only nonstop service to daily nonstop service starting on 6/3/2023.


DEN-GRR was previously 3-4 daily.


I don't ever remember seeing DEN GRR over 2x a day ever. I'll look over last year and see what they had. They have been relatively stable with about 7 flights a day and I cant imagine more to DEN than MDW.
Well what I'm looking at only goes to last April.
Varies between 4 and 5 M-F flights. Majority to MDW. When I have looked at visiting GRR since day one, never seemed that busy flight wise for WN
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:10 am

Was just looking through the Southwest schedule and noticed that GSP-HOU is down to Saturday only. When did that happen? I've always heard that loads were good on that one, but apparently not good enough (or yields were terrible) Though I noticed the other week that both of our ATL flights continue on to MDW. That can't be a coincidence. Again, I find myself wishing that GSP-ATL moved to BNA for greater connectivity to Western markets.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:03 am

I think it's been at least 6 months or more that Southwest decided to make HOU a Saturday only flight. When GSP opened in 2011 for Southwest it started with BNA, HOU, MCO, 2BWI, 2MDW.
MCO was dropped due to that flight mostly being thrus..
There was talk of a DEN Saturday only before the MAX was grounded.
Totally agree that a return of BNA would be most welcomed.
If Both ATL flights get enough MDW Thrus then it could possibly result in a return of at least 1 MDW turn.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:45 am

It seems that of the 2 South Carolina Stations that opened in 2011 , Charleston turned out to be the Crown Jewel of the 2. Great to see that Myrtle Beach was added in 2021 plus though Savannah is in Georgia only 100 miles or so away from CHS it was a great addition to for Southwest.
I sincerely hope that there is a ressurection of GSP for Southwest and in late 2020 it appeared there would be but it's back to just 3 flights 6 days a week and 4 on Saturday with HOU.
I loved GSP but it seems like a Cursed Station for Southwest. They do move a lot of Freight Outbound & Inbound plus Human Remains..
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:04 am

I wonder if Southwest regrets not going to AVL instead of picking GSP?

I wonder how many people travel to GSP that are going to Ashville.

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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:19 am

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ibthebigd wrote:
I wonder if Southwest regrets not going to AVL instead of picking GSP?

I wonder how many people travel to GSP that are going to Ashville.

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I doubt it. WN had a good opportunity to add AVL in 2020-2021 when they launched a plethora of new cities, and AVL was left out. Further, I would argue there are more passengers traveling from GSP to AVL given the large presence of G4 at AVL (cheaper fares and more nonstop options on G4) and the lack of a solid ULCC carrier at GSP (G4 has a pretty small presence there). I suspect AVL is on the short list of future new destinations for WN probably once their staffing/plane situation is better. Also, the lack of space at AVL’s terminal will soon be rectified when they get the new terminal completed in a couple of years.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:25 am

If memory serves i believe that then SC Governor , Nikki Haley had a role in getting Southwest to operate in SC in 2011. A few of us wonder if Columbia, SC was on the short list. Only 105 -110 miles away from CHS and serves as the half way point between CHS & GSP.
Asheville, NC may have been a better alternative in hindsight but then of course Governor Haley is not going to push an airport in the neighboring state.
There was always talk over the years of Southwest closing GSP but it never came to fruition.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:37 pm

GSP psgr wrote:
Was just looking through the Southwest schedule and noticed that GSP-HOU is down to Saturday only. When did that happen? I've always heard that loads were good on that one, but apparently not good enough (or yields were terrible) Though I noticed the other week that both of our ATL flights continue on to MDW. That can't be a coincidence. Again, I find myself wishing that GSP-ATL moved to BNA for greater connectivity to Western markets.


sonnyr23 wrote:
I think it's been at least 6 months or more that Southwest decided to make HOU a Saturday only flight. When GSP opened in 2011 for Southwest it started with BNA, HOU, MCO, 2BWI, 2MDW.
MCO was dropped due to that flight mostly being thrus..
There was talk of a DEN Saturday only before the MAX was grounded.
Totally agree that a return of BNA would be most welcomed.
If Both ATL flights get enough MDW Thrus then it could possibly result in a return of at least 1 MDW turn.


GSP can likely support the return of WN GSP-MDW nonstop service with WN having average load factors of 81.06% on GSP-MDW in Summer 2015. WN has also already resumed a few other nonstop routes out of MDW that were dropped prior to the COVID-19 pandemic such as MDW-SNA/ROC/TUL.

Here were the load factors that F9 had on GSP-DEN/LAS in 2019:
F9 GSP-DEN - 45967 passengers, 54324 seats, 84.62% load factor
F9 GSP-LAS - 16256 passengers, 21372 seats, 76.06% load factor

GSP can likely support WN nonstop service to DEN with F9 having completely pulled out of GSP along with the amount of demand that was there to the Western U.S. from GSP prior to the COVID-19 pandemic. WN has also added nonstop service to DEN from some other markets that F9 has pulled out of such as BLI, BHM, BZN, EUG, FAT, SBA, and ICT.

While WN would be able to offer connections through BNA from GSP if it re-adds BNA-GSP nonstop service, there would be limited connecting opportunities beyond that already available from WN GSP-ATL flights due to the timing of the WN BNA-ORD/DTW/IAH/LGB/LAX/MSP/SNA/PNS/ECP/SAN nonstop flights.

WN also has nonstop service out of ATL to a few other stations in the South that don't have WN nonstop service to BNA such as JAN, LIT, MEM, PBI, and RIC.

There would be far more connecting opportunities available with the resumption of WN GSP-MDW nonstop service or the addition of WN GSP-DEN nonstop service as (a) there are plenty of WN stations west of the Mississippi River that don't have WN nonstop service to ATL and (b) MDW and DEN are much bigger WN stations than BNA.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:56 pm

So one has to go route by route searching the flight schedules to see the additions at a station, correct? I wonder how ATL faired in this schedule update. Was not able to see any changes in the route pairs I searched.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:14 pm

With CLT only about 85-90 miles I-85 North of GSP if Southwest can revise the Pre Pandemic Plan of adding Flights out of CLT.. The Speculation and hear say was that Southwest was going to bring in Below The Wing Agents to replace the Contracted Company that did Below the Wing but then The Pandemic hit and that plan was scrapped.
At one point CLT was up to 11 flights and the Flight Attendants and Pilots mentioned many times that the Contracted Ramp was Awful.
Southwest i believe went thru at least 3 Contracting Companies to work Below Wing in CLT
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:20 pm

sonnyr23 wrote:
With CLT only about 85-90 miles I-85 North of GSP if Southwest can revise the Pre Pandemic Plan of adding Flights out of CLT.. The Speculation and hear say was that Southwest was going to bring in Below The Wing Agents to replace the Contracted Company that did Below the Wing but then The Pandemic hit and that plan was scrapped.
At one point CLT was up to 11 flights and the Flight Attendants and Pilots mentioned many times that the Contracted Ramp was Awful.
Southwest i believe went thru at least 3 Contracting Companies to work Below Wing in CLT

As someone who works inbounds from CLT I can whole heartedly agree with their opinions.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:59 pm

Here was hoping to see MDW be back to their pre-pandemic summer flights in the 260s. Summer 2023 will see around 242 daily flights.

Some routes with high daily frequencies that stand out:
MDW-DEN- 11X
MDW-LAS 10x
MDW-MSP 9X
MDW-PHX 9X
MDW-LGA 8X
MDW-MCO 8X
MDW-MCI 8X
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:14 pm

avi8 wrote:
So one has to go route by route searching the flight schedules to see the additions at a station, correct? I wonder how ATL faired in this schedule update. Was not able to see any changes in the route pairs I searched.

ATL goes to 104 m-f in June.
increases from may to bwi,den,hou las and mdw.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:27 pm

I wish there would be one more direct flight to BNA for personal reasons as some that lives near MSP and travels to BNA frequently. That's just me being picky and know there are several options that direct route.
SteveXC500 wrote:
With this schedule extension, MSP goes up to 23 daily flights to 7 cities, with 17/23 to MDW/DEN.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:15 pm

avi8 wrote:
So one has to go route by route searching the flight schedules to see the additions at a station, correct? I wonder how ATL faired in this schedule update. Was not able to see any changes in the route pairs I searched.


ATL is gaining daily frequencies to BWI, HOU, DEN, LAS & MDW; Saturdays to DAL, DCA, DEN, FLL, HOU, MCI, MCO, MSY & TPA; Sundays to DEN, IAH, MDW, MIA, SRQ & STL. ATL is reducing some weekend frequencies to AUS, BNA, CMH, DAL, IAD, JAN, MEM, MIA, RSW & SDF. Station totals are 104 on weekdays, 85 on Saturdays, and 108 on Sundays. LAX, OAK & SAN each maintain one Saturday-only nonstop to ATL.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:15 am

Breaking: @SouthwestAir adds nonstop service from Kansas City! Effective 4/2023 Albuquerque and Indianapolis will be restored (COVID), and frequencies will be added to Atlanta, Los Angeles,
San Diego and St. Louis. Effective 6/2023 frequencies to Las Vegas, Orlando and Pensacola.

The airline will be adding up to six new daily departures in April and two more in June for a total of 67 daily Southwest departures, according to Southwest spokesperson Dan Landson. “As Kansas City International Airport’s largest carrier, Southwest looks forward to serving our Customers and the community from the new KCI terminal in 2023,” Ladson said in an email statement.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:45 am

sonnyr23 wrote:
I think it's been at least 6 months or more that Southwest decided to make HOU a Saturday only flight. When GSP opened in 2011 for Southwest it started with BNA, HOU, MCO, 2BWI, 2MDW.
MCO was dropped due to that flight mostly being thrus..
There was talk of a DEN Saturday only before the MAX was grounded.
Totally agree that a return of BNA would be most welcomed.
If Both ATL flights get enough MDW Thrus then it could possibly result in a return of at least 1 MDW turn.


Honestly, I'd settle for just having a morning daily GSP-HOU/MDW/STL/BNA that was a thru flight to DEN with the reverse as a return. That would fix a good deal of the coverage gaps to the West that exist ex-GSP.

As an aside, why is Southwest so against having three flight number itineraries? I'd happily fly something like GSP-ATL-DEN-BZN if it meant that I could have free bags. It's still a far superior option to having to connect through AA's Charlotte madhouse!
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sun Oct 30, 2022 8:57 am

I understand where you are coming from. A few times i went thru CLT on AA and it was not fun.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:03 am

sonnyr23 wrote:
I understand where you are coming from. A few times i went thru CLT on AA and it was not fun.


Haha, I did GSP-CLT-LHR this summer, and we boarded a 772 to LHR out of a holdroom designed for a DC-9! Insanity!
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:58 pm

PVD523 wrote:
114 to be exact, of which 21 are supposed to be the MAX7. Fleet resources are only part of the equation. Manpower is another, and I think a bigger culprit as to why network restoration hasn’t come full circle yet. WN is still working to clear its pilot training backlog, though they’re making good progress according to their Q1 report. That goes for support staff as well. Given the timeframe this next extension runs through I think there’s a good chance of solid positive movement with additional network restoration and some minor expansion. Their hiring and training just needs to keep up.


ericm2031 wrote:
I think delivery delays and pilot staffing are bigger issues than the MAX 7 certification. I believe they’re taking MAX 8s at the same rate and numbers that they would have been taking the MAX 7s, but Boeing is struggling to keep up/ramp up due to supply chain issues and their other issues. They’re also retiring planes they could have extended the lives of and aren’t, probably for multiple reasons (heavy Mx costs, lack of pilots, etc). They’ve also spread themselves thin as they have almost 20 new stations they’ve added that they didn’t have before the pandemic, so that’s pulling resources that could have been used to restore other parts of the network.


A discussion regarding the restoration of the WN network can be found at viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1478085.
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Mon Oct 31, 2022 6:10 am

Is Southwest adding any additional capacity for the NFL Draft in Kansas City at the end of April?
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:20 pm

Mexicana757 wrote:
Here was hoping to see MDW be back to their pre-pandemic summer flights in the 260s. Summer 2023 will see around 242 daily flights.

Some routes with high daily frequencies that stand out:
MDW-DEN- 11X
MDW-LAS 10x
MDW-MSP 9X
MDW-PHX 9X
MDW-LGA 8X
MDW-MCO 8X
MDW-MCI 8X


How about BWI-LGA?
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Mon Oct 31, 2022 3:35 pm

av8tiongeek wrote:
Mexicana757 wrote:
Here was hoping to see MDW be back to their pre-pandemic summer flights in the 260s. Summer 2023 will see around 242 daily flights.

Some routes with high daily frequencies that stand out:
MDW-DEN- 11X
MDW-LAS 10x
MDW-MSP 9X
MDW-PHX 9X
MDW-LGA 8X
MDW-MCO 8X
MDW-MCI 8X


How about BWI-LGA?

Southwest shifted those slots to MDW and STL. For now all BWI-LGA flights end 11/5
 
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Mon Oct 31, 2022 3:59 pm

Damn...those NY/NJ commuters simply can't get a break.
 
Lilj4425
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Mon Oct 31, 2022 6:59 pm

GSP psgr wrote:
Was just looking through the Southwest schedule and noticed that GSP-HOU is down to Saturday only. When did that happen? I've always heard that loads were good on that one, but apparently not good enough (or yields were terrible) Though I noticed the other week that both of our ATL flights continue on to MDW. That can't be a coincidence. Again, I find myself wishing that GSP-ATL moved to BNA for greater connectivity to Western markets.


There is actually no GSP WN service to HOU right now but that will soon change. GSP-ATL will still be twice a day except for Sundays which will be going to three times a day on April 23rd. GSP-HOU will be going from no service to Saturday only service on November 12th and then to Saturday and Sunday service on April 15th.

And I agree that MDW service should be restored.
 
CMHARJ
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:54 pm

Trip Report....I got to experience my very first WN Hawaii flights recently and it was a step up in service compared to their traditional cross country flights. I flew PHX-HNL and HNL-LAS. Within 30-45 from takeoff, we were offered snack boxes. They consisted of their Chex mix bag, fruit snack gummies, bag of wheat thins peppercorn cheddar cheese spread, and 4 mint tic taks. We were then offered drink service. About an hour later, then came around with another full service drink offering and then coffee/water offerings every 90 minutes afterwards. We did get offered their brownie bites halfway through the flight. For a low-cost carrier, it wasn't bad, just a LONG flight. I can't wait until they install USB chargers on their planes. From everyone else's experience, how does WN compare to other airlines such as HA, DL, AA, UA, AS to the Islands?
 
WN732
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:11 pm

CMHARJ wrote:
Trip Report....I got to experience my very first WN Hawaii flights recently and it was a step up in service compared to their traditional cross country flights. I flew PHX-HNL and HNL-LAS. Within 30-45 from takeoff, we were offered snack boxes. They consisted of their Chex mix bag, fruit snack gummies, bag of wheat thins peppercorn cheddar cheese spread, and 4 mint tic taks. We were then offered drink service. About an hour later, then came around with another full service drink offering and then coffee/water offerings every 90 minutes afterwards. We did get offered their brownie bites halfway through the flight. For a low-cost carrier, it wasn't bad, just a LONG flight. I can't wait until they install USB chargers on their planes. From everyone else's experience, how does WN compare to other airlines such as HA, DL, AA, UA, AS to the Islands?



HA is the only one these days that offer meals in economy - if you can even call it a meal.

Everyone else is on par for the most part, and it really comes down to your loyalty, credit card, or preference. Unless you are up front, your experience will be similar. The edge Southwest has is the free luggage - and cheap WiFi and the easy interisland connections.

But if you have certain credit cards or status that won't matter to you. I will say that a WN 737 is much more comfortable than UA's across the water - those two inches make a difference.

Personally I enjoyed flying WN to Hawaii - I've done HA too and they both are very good. In my situation though, I would prefer WN or DL because I get free luggage on each. But every situation is different and that's why we have a free market.
 
n471wn
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:32 pm

Does anyone know why Gate 28 at OAK has suddenly disappeared? WN needs all the gates they can get in Terminal 2 as more and more flights are being pushed to Terminal 1.
 
SXDFC
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:04 pm

CMHARJ wrote:
Trip Report....I got to experience my very first WN Hawaii flights recently and it was a step up in service compared to their traditional cross country flights. I flew PHX-HNL and HNL-LAS. Within 30-45 from takeoff, we were offered snack boxes. They consisted of their Chex mix bag, fruit snack gummies, bag of wheat thins peppercorn cheddar cheese spread, and 4 mint tic taks. We were then offered drink service. About an hour later, then came around with another full service drink offering and then coffee/water offerings every 90 minutes afterwards. We did get offered their brownie bites halfway through the flight. For a low-cost carrier, it wasn't bad, just a LONG flight. I can't wait until they install USB chargers on their planes. From everyone else's experience, how does WN compare to other airlines such as HA, DL, AA, UA, AS to the Islands?



From a crew point of view, WN needs to install or provide some sort of compactor for the longer flights. The snack packs are great, the problem is with the semi thick padding (they could just incorporate a piece of paper instead of cardboard) it adds more to the garbage in an already garbage limited space (the -800s are even worse as they lack the G7 galley and extra garbage can).
 
LUVisLOST
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022Hich

Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:52 pm

SXDFC wrote:
CMHARJ wrote:
Trip Report....I got to experience my very first WN Hawaii flights recently and it was a step up in service compared to their traditional cross country flights. I flew PHX-HNL and HNL-LAS. Within 30-45 from takeoff, we were offered snack boxes. They consisted of their Chex mix bag, fruit snack gummies, bag of wheat thins peppercorn cheddar cheese spread, and 4 mint tic taks. We were then offered drink service. About an hour later, then came around with another full service drink offering and then coffee/water offerings every 90 minutes afterwards. We did get offered their brownie bites halfway through the flight. For a low-cost carrier, it wasn't bad, just a LONG flight. I can't wait until they install USB chargers on their planes. From everyone else's experience, how does WN compare to other airlines such as HA, DL, AA, UA, AS to the Islands?



From a crew point of view, WN needs to install or provide some sort of compactor for the longer flights. The snack packs are great, the problem is with the semi thick padding (they could just incorporate a piece of paper instead of cardboard) it adds more to the garbage in an already garbage limited space (the -800s are even worse as they lack the G7 galley and extra garbage can).



Wishful thinking LOL!! Southwest is the last airline to care about flight attendants’ work spaces nor would they EVER spend a little xtra $ to make their lives easier. They’re way too cheap and would rather give management bonuses/raises with the extra profit (which they have been!) Years ago they were going to invest in looking at redoing the 700 series galleys to make them more user friendly. Only one memo came out about that and then nothing about that topic was ever shared again. Even though their flight attendants are the face of the airline, WN management doesn’t give two craps about their welfare, happiness or even mental and physical health of their employees. Former koolaid drinker here of many years, threw the koolaid out after how the company treated employees during Covid. That was the last straw for me, and now all I see is a money hungry airline that only cares about profits and shareholders.
 
Jshank83
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Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:20 am

n471wn wrote:
Does anyone know why Gate 28 at OAK has suddenly disappeared? WN needs all the gates they can get in Terminal 2 as more and more flights are being pushed to Terminal 1.


Looks like they got rid of it between June 2019 and Feb 2020

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