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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:12 am

Will there be a purge of nonstop destinations served from ORD by AA soon? Unfortunately, things seem to be heading in that direction in terms of both mainline and regional operations.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:23 am

USAirALB wrote:
Leaving ISP is somewhat perplexing to me, given how large the market should theoretically be. I have family in both Nassau and Suffolk counties that often use ISP, and I can't help but wonder if a ISP-CLT service would have fared better.

I've noticed a pretty big percentage of Eagle to mainline upgauges in Charlotte this Fall:

-AVL gets an additional mainline frequency (2x daily A319)
-GSP gets back mainline service on CLT-GSP since the early 2000s and I believe will be the shortest mainline route ex CLT (2x A319)
-ILM has a huge mainline increase...some days the route is entirely all mainline (5x A319/A320) other days the route is 6x mainline and 1x Eagle
-GSO will have 4 daily mainline flights
-ECP goes all mainline (not sure if mainline was ever on this route)
-Some days SAV is entirely all mainline, with other days have an additional CR9 frequency
-AVP is entirely mainline (3x A320)

These are just the ones I saw, there may be more.


Add CID to that list as well. Going from 2x CRJ900 to 1 A319 to CLT
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Thu Jun 23, 2022 4:13 am

Is ORD going to get any upgauging or will most of the ERJ-145 cities/other cities served by Eagle just be dropped altogether?
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:19 pm

nwt0 wrote:
Will there be a purge of nonstop destinations served from ORD by AA soon? Unfortunately, things seem to be heading in that direction in terms of both mainline and regional operations.


nwt0 wrote:
Is ORD going to get any upgauging or will most of the ERJ-145 cities/other cities served by Eagle just be dropped altogether?


I think I saw in the October schedule that only 19 routes (18 with the removal of DBQ) were all 50 seater.

Those include fairly large markets like YUL & MSN.

And some markets like AVP, COU, DAY, & FSD are scheduled to be upguaged in the "placeholder" schedule to fully or partially CR7 or E175.

That only leaves 12 all-50 seater markets from ORD, that would be likely cut.

ALO is an EAS, subsidy only started 2 months ago.

Most of the other markets left would have service from another hub outside of ORD though.

CWA & MQT seem like outliers, that could be next.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:50 pm

AA still has some 50-seat ERJ-145 regional jets on CVG-PHL in addition to CVG-ORD, but AA currently operates CRJ-900's on some of its CVG-PHL nonstop flights. AA also currently has all of its CVG-PHL nonstop flights on CRJ-700/900 starting on 10/30/2022.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:58 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
nwt0 wrote:
Will there be a purge of nonstop destinations served from ORD by AA soon? Unfortunately, things seem to be heading in that direction in terms of both mainline and regional operations.


nwt0 wrote:
Is ORD going to get any upgauging or will most of the ERJ-145 cities/other cities served by Eagle just be dropped altogether?


I think I saw in the October schedule that only 19 routes (18 with the removal of DBQ) were all 50 seater.

Those include fairly large markets like YUL & MSN.

And some markets like AVP, COU, DAY, & FSD are scheduled to be upguaged in the "placeholder" schedule to fully or partially CR7 or E175.

That only leaves 12 all-50 seater markets from ORD, that would be likely cut.

ALO is an EAS, subsidy only started 2 months ago.

Most of the other markets left would have service from another hub outside of ORD though.

CWA & MQT seem like outliers, that could be next.


MQT is an Envoy heavy maintenance base, that’s not going anywhere, even if it’s down to 1x daily.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:22 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
nwt0 wrote:
Will there be a purge of nonstop destinations served from ORD by AA soon? Unfortunately, things seem to be heading in that direction in terms of both mainline and regional operations.


nwt0 wrote:
Is ORD going to get any upgauging or will most of the ERJ-145 cities/other cities served by Eagle just be dropped altogether?


I think I saw in the October schedule that only 19 routes (18 with the removal of DBQ) were all 50 seater.

Those include fairly large markets like YUL & MSN.

And some markets like AVP, COU, DAY, & FSD are scheduled to be upguaged in the "placeholder" schedule to fully or partially CR7 or E175.

That only leaves 12 all-50 seater markets from ORD, that would be likely cut.

ALO is an EAS, subsidy only started 2 months ago.

Most of the other markets left would have service from another hub outside of ORD though.

CWA & MQT seem like outliers, that could be next.

Just out of curiosity, where do you find the upcoming schedules? I want to see for myself which airports are at most risk of being cut from ORD.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:38 pm

nwt0 wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
nwt0 wrote:
Will there be a purge of nonstop destinations served from ORD by AA soon? Unfortunately, things seem to be heading in that direction in terms of both mainline and regional operations.


nwt0 wrote:
Is ORD going to get any upgauging or will most of the ERJ-145 cities/other cities served by Eagle just be dropped altogether?


I think I saw in the October schedule that only 19 routes (18 with the removal of DBQ) were all 50 seater.

Those include fairly large markets like YUL & MSN.

And some markets like AVP, COU, DAY, & FSD are scheduled to be upguaged in the "placeholder" schedule to fully or partially CR7 or E175.

That only leaves 12 all-50 seater markets from ORD, that would be likely cut.

ALO is an EAS, subsidy only started 2 months ago.

Most of the other markets left would have service from another hub outside of ORD though.

CWA & MQT seem like outliers, that could be next.

Just out of curiosity, where do you find the upcoming schedules? I want to see for myself which airports are at most risk of being cut from ORD.


These for upcoming schedules, you will likely need to change the destinations I listed for ORD to include all the AA markets.

One-way
Departing from - “ORD”
Routing codes - “N”
Extension codes
    Regional: “aircraft t:ERJ t:E70 t:E75 t:CRJ; nocodeshare”
    Mainline: “aircraft t:E90 t:E95 t:32s t:330 t:350 t:CS1 t:CS3 t:717 t:737 t:757 t:767 t:777 t:787 t:M80 t:M81 t:M82 t:M83 t:M87 t:M88 t:M90; nocodeshare”
Destination -
    “ALB,AMS,ATL,AUS,AZA,BDL,BKG,BNA,BOS,BUF,BWI,CAK,CDG,CHS,CLE,CLT,CMH,CUN,CUN,CZM,DAB,DAL,DAY,DCA,DEN,DFW,DTW,EVV,EWR,FLL,FLL,FPO,FRA,GCM,GDL,GRR,GSO,GSP,HOU,IAD,IAH,IND,JAX,JFK,KEF,LAS,LAX,LEX,LGA,LHR,MBJ,MCI,MCO,MDT,MDW,MEM,MEX,MIA,MKE,MSN,MSP,MSY,MYR,NAS,OAK,OMA,ONT,ORD,PDX,PGD,PHL,PHX,PIE,PIT,PUJ,PVD,PVR,RDU,RIC,RSW,SAN,SAT,SAV,SDF,SEA,SFB,SFO,SJC,SJD,SJO,SJU,SLC,SRQ,STL,SXM,SYR,TLH,TPA,TYS,VPS,XNA,YYZ”
Stops - Nonstop only
Extra Stops -No extra stops

https://oldmatrix.itasoftware.com/
https://newmatrix.itasoftware.com/search

This for past schedules:
https://wandr.me/BTS/
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:48 pm

USAirALB wrote:
laca773 wrote:
They are dropping ONT-ORD, but keeping ONT-CLT. I wonder if this has anything to do with F9 & WN both flying ONT-CHI?
Will SJC-CLT be flown with a A319?

CLT-SJC is scheduled to be an A321, as are all transcon flights (LAX/ONT/SAN/SMF/SJC/PDX/SEA/SFO) from CLT in the most recent schedule this Fall.

Someone mentioned above that there are financial incentives tied to ONT-CLT.


This makes sense. ONT is working hard to make their small regional airport standout since separating from LAWA. Volaris, Avianca, China Airlines, & soon new service from Norse to LGW shows the incentives are helping. CI is increasing their TPE service up to twice a week which is great news as I suspect many thought is was going to be permanently axed due to the pandemic.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:49 am

Allied Pilots Association is calling on the FAA to monitor AA, saying its scheduling practices could lead to unsafe operations with training lapses and tired pilots.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/am ... -rcna34978
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:06 am

How set in schedule is AA for February? I got a schedule update for my CID-Destin trip with the upgraded Airbus flight but now I have a 6 hour layover coming home and a 4 hour layover going. The morning flight to CLT usually left at 7am but now it’s at 5:05am and the flight back normally 630pm and now 9pm. I’d rather not make any further changes To it if it’s only going to change again.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:44 am

Is UA best positioned here? AA probably wishing they had hung on to Kirby right about now…
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:19 am

CIDFlyer wrote:
How set in schedule is AA for February? I got a schedule update for my CID-Destin trip with the upgraded Airbus flight but now I have a 6 hour layover coming home and a 4 hour layover going. The morning flight to CLT usually left at 7am but now it’s at 5:05am and the flight back normally 630pm and now 9pm. I’d rather not make any further changes To it if it’s only going to change again.

The fall schedule isn't even finalized so February is very much subject to change. At CLT when demand is down they typically will remove the 7am and 10pm banks of flights.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:21 am

CIDFlyer wrote:
How set in schedule is AA for February? I got a schedule update for my CID-Destin trip with the upgraded Airbus flight but now I have a 6 hour layover coming home and a 4 hour layover going. The morning flight to CLT usually left at 7am but now it’s at 5:05am and the flight back normally 630pm and now 9pm. I’d rather not make any further changes To it if it’s only going to change again.


Domestic schedule is not set at all but if the new times are bad you can ask for a reroute via DFW.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:39 am

Heck I am not sure AA knows what it’s doing in July and August with certainty let alone some time in 2023.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:02 pm

Thanks for the feedback, I think I’ll hold on to it for now in case it changes again. Part of why I’m reluctant to switch is it was a pretty sweet deal - 12k aadvantage miles for free round trip, never have had to use so few miles for a free round trip lol.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Sat Jun 25, 2022 1:55 am

Since several gates are out of service @ LAX T4 are they using TBIT gates more now? There are quite a few gates out of commission.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:02 am

Looking at the tentative November schedule, my home airport CID is showing a mainline influx, keeping the CLT 319 from the summer but moving to 1x E175 1xA319 to Dallas and a daily 319 to PHX.

Looks like a lot of others are like this too.

From ORD, some 145 markets are going to the 170/175 including RST, LSE, and ATW.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:30 pm

MLIAA wrote:
Looking at the tentative November schedule, my home airport CID is showing a mainline influx, keeping the CLT 319 from the summer but moving to 1x E175 1xA319 to Dallas and a daily 319 to PHX.

Looks like a lot of others are like this too.

From ORD, some 145 markets are going to the 170/175 including RST, LSE, and ATW.

Has this been published yet? AA.com still
Showing Mesa CR9s on DFW / PHX. I would
Love to see those go away! What does the ORD schedule look like from CID?
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:46 pm

CIDFlyer wrote:
MLIAA wrote:
Looking at the tentative November schedule, my home airport CID is showing a mainline influx, keeping the CLT 319 from the summer but moving to 1x E175 1xA319 to Dallas and a daily 319 to PHX.

Looks like a lot of others are like this too.

From ORD, some 145 markets are going to the 170/175 including RST, LSE, and ATW.

Has this been published yet? AA.com still
Showing Mesa CR9s on DFW / PHX. I would
Love to see those go away! What does the ORD schedule look like from CID?


All internal proposals, so very much subject to change. Still showing 3x day to ORD for the rest of the year, November is all 145s but some -700s sprinkled in in the months before.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Sat Jun 25, 2022 1:32 pm

MLIAA wrote:
CIDFlyer wrote:
MLIAA wrote:
Looking at the tentative November schedule, my home airport CID is showing a mainline influx, keeping the CLT 319 from the summer but moving to 1x E175 1xA319 to Dallas and a daily 319 to PHX.

Looks like a lot of others are like this too.

From ORD, some 145 markets are going to the 170/175 including RST, LSE, and ATW.

Has this been published yet? AA.com still
Showing Mesa CR9s on DFW / PHX. I would
Love to see those go away! What does the ORD schedule look like from CID?


All internal proposals, so very much subject to change. Still showing 3x day to ORD for the rest of the year, November is all 145s but some -700s sprinkled in in the months before.


Thanks! Will be interesting to see how it shakes out. I’ve long thought DFW from CID could have had a mainline flight as it’s one of the busiest routes from here. PHX also. I was excited to see CLT go up to mainline but would have thought DFW first.

I know UA is going to be adding more mainline here to ORD and DEN this fall.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Sun Jun 26, 2022 1:26 am

Add XNA to the list of mainline upgrades to CLT this fall
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Sun Jun 26, 2022 1:37 am

Couple of other things I’m noticing via CLT is ATW returns in November 1x E75 and TYS gets a mainline flight thrown in the mix as well.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:30 am

FNT is another small market to put on watch.

AA is cutting FNT-CLT after Labor Day. Only 2-3 ERJs a day to ORD are left.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:50 am

Out of LAN, AA currently only has 2x daily nonstops to ORD on ERJ-145's and 1x daily nonstop to DCA on a CRJ-700.

Is LAN at risk of losing AA service, or is AA likely to continue serving LAN?
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:09 am

jplatts wrote:
Out of LAN, AA currently only has 2x daily nonstops to ORD on ERJ-145's and 1x daily nonstop to DCA on a CRJ-700.

Is LAN at risk of losing AA service, or is AA likely to continue serving LAN?


As long as LAN has an Air21 slot that can only be used for DCA-LAN, I would say it is a safe station. Nearby stations like AZO or FNT may not be as lucky.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:46 am

Get ready for that PHL-BWI bus service, rumor has it that AA is seriously looking at starting it in the near future.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:58 am

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Get ready for that PHL-BWI bus service, rumor has it that AA is seriously looking at starting it in the near future.


In addition, AA adding BWI-LAX nonstop service and AA re-adding BWI-PHX nonstop service are possibilities as AA likely still has a FF base on the Baltimore side of the Baltimore/Washington region due to the former US BWI hub to support BWI-LAX/PHX nonstop service on AA.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:24 am

FNT losing CLT is a big loss. If you cut off service to your second largest hub /worlds 3rd largest airline hub that hurts. Unless they start upgrading some ORD flights they may just be considering consolidating all their Detroit region flights to DTW like they did with TOL.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:27 am

What do you guys think is next in terms of AA at FAT? I know that we get a lot of DFW (4-5X 738s daily this summer), but PHX has been cut back from previous times this summer (we’ve had 1-2X A319/20s daily plus 1-2 CR7/9s). I bet traffic is being directed at DFW mainly, but we had ORD cut after a very successful summer where loads averaged over 90%. I bet this is due to staffing issues, but do you guys think ORD could be brought back in the future?
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:51 am

Midwestindy wrote:
FNT is another small market to put on watch. AA is cutting FNT-CLT after Labor Day. Only 2-3 ERJs a day to ORD are left.


Do you have a link to a source for this specific cut?
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:47 pm

crj900lr wrote:
Get ready for that PHL-BWI bus service, rumor has it that AA is seriously looking at starting it in the near future.

I'm curious whether Connect Airlines might come in handy here as well. They are getting very close to lift off and having an AA interline agreement in place. During their initial announcement last year, there was talk about getting intracity connections between BOS/PHL/BWI so I wonder if there might be some opportunity for AA to toss some pax on those flights.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:32 pm

KarlB737 wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
FNT is another small market to put on watch. AA is cutting FNT-CLT after Labor Day. Only 2-3 ERJs a day to ORD are left.


Do you have a link to a source for this specific cut?


https://www.linkedin.com/company/ailevo ... edView=all
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:11 pm

jplatts wrote:
crj900lr wrote:
Get ready for that PHL-BWI bus service, rumor has it that AA is seriously looking at starting it in the near future.


In addition, AA adding BWI-LAX nonstop service and AA re-adding BWI-PHX nonstop service are possibilities as AA likely still has a FF base on the Baltimore side of the Baltimore/Washington region due to the former US BWI hub to support BWI-LAX/PHX nonstop service on AA.

The US hub in Baltimore closed almost 21 years ago.

In any case, it's highly unlikely that BWI-PHX resumes, and BWI-LAX literally has a zero percent chance of happening. BWI-LAX is a low-yielding blood bath at present, with NK/UA/WN all on the route. I'm not sure why AA would want on the route, especially as most WAS-LAX traffic comes from either the DC, NoVa, or MoCo parts of the metro area, which are all closer to DCA/IAD than BWI. Frankly I am surprised that UA continues to operate BWI-LAX, even after they dropped other LAX transcons/midcons like ATL/PHL/MSY/PIT over the years. At the end of the day, UA has a different strategy than AA in the region (see below) to the point where I guess BWI-LAX makes sense for them.

AA has made it quite clear that their strategy in the DMV is to focus most of their energy on DCA. BWI and IAD have lost a significant number of flights over the years...PHX is gone from both airports (although I think IAD lost PHX before the merger), MIA was terminated from IAD, and BWI-MIA is down to a single daily flight. IAD-DFW is down to just two daily flights this summer.

I still strongly believe that AA will eventually resume IAD-LAX. Simply flying DCA-LAX twice daily is nowhere near competitive or sufficient for the market IMO, and they cannot add any more frequency onto DCA-LAX without obtaining additional beyond-perimeter slots, which is unlikely in the near future. DCA-LAS/PHX slots are destination-specific and cannot be moved. There are a number of firms (especially defense) that are actually closer to IAD than DCA that were frequent users of the service, and the PM IAD-LAX departure was timed to connect with the OW international departure bank at LAX. I think once travel in both those markets picks back up, the route will likely resume.

This is anecdotal, but FWIW AA seemed to offer a more premium product on IAD-LAX than they did on DCA-LAX, even after the merger. Up until Oasis, IAD-LAX IIRC was one of the routes to see the upgraded soft amenities (duvet and larger pillow) in F, and F pax had guaranteed on-demand entertainment, either via seatback or the Samsung tablets. I would frequently see the duvets/pillows on IAD-LAX, but never saw such amenities on DCA-LAX. Likewise, IAD-LAX always seemed to be operated by a 738 with AVOD, whereas DCA-LAX was a wash. Much harder to get a upgrade on IAD-LAX, too.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:17 am

USAirALB wrote:
jplatts wrote:
crj900lr wrote:
Get ready for that PHL-BWI bus service, rumor has it that AA is seriously looking at starting it in the near future.


In addition, AA adding BWI-LAX nonstop service and AA re-adding BWI-PHX nonstop service are possibilities as AA likely still has a FF base on the Baltimore side of the Baltimore/Washington region due to the former US BWI hub to support BWI-LAX/PHX nonstop service on AA.

The US hub in Baltimore closed almost 21 years ago.


But America West had PHX-BWI on big luxurious 757s!

https://youtu.be/BjKyhe7PPok?t=272
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:55 am

When would the place holder/tentative schedule likely be published? I’m curious to see the mainline changes.

What about markets in downstate Illinois like PIA/CMI/BMI? Will they have their service upgraded to larger regional jets to ORD?
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:43 am

Question, the last few days I have seen AAL960x flight numbers across the Atlantic, are they operating Cargo flights?
Today I see AA9600 JFK-CDG and AA9603 JFK-LHR
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:28 am

Amwest2United wrote:
Question, the last few days I have seen AAL960x flight numbers across the Atlantic, are they operating Cargo flights?
Today I see AA9600 JFK-CDG and AA9603 JFK-LHR


Its not just across the Atlantic, its across the Pacific as well.

AA9712 has been operating SYD-LAX with a B773/B77W. AA9711 back the other way.

I wonder why they don't have passengers on these flights? Can anyone shed some light on the reasons for these empty flights, couldn't they do cargo and passengers?
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:06 pm

Those look like extra sections.....we had bags connecting to those flights yesterday....specifically to JFK....
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:23 pm

Nice to see PHL - FCO is now year-round.

They need to do the same with one of the Athens flights. Why give the entire year-round market to Delta?
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:05 pm

Amwest2United wrote:
Question, the last few days I have seen AAL960x flight numbers across the Atlantic, are they operating Cargo flights?
Today I see AA9600 JFK-CDG and AA9603 JFK-LHR


I don’t know about the JFK-LHR flight, but AA9600 JFK-CDG was an extra section operated with a 772 because AA44 JFK-CDG on the 77W cancelled.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:25 pm

With AA recently launching DOH via JFK, what are the chances of AA adding DXB?
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:01 pm

J343 wrote:
With AA recently launching DOH via JFK, what are the chances of AA adding DXB?


Pretty tiny. The DOH flight isn't about DOH, it's about connecting with their "new" (more correctly: "recently reconciled") partner QR for flights to Africa, the Middle East, and the Indian subcontinent (plus a few others). Why would they add DXB when they can send you over DOH to get there, along with all of the other transfer pax? They don't have a partner in DXB, so it would be limited to US-UAE pax, which probably wouldn't fill a plane, and certainly not profitably, with all of the competition from EK.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:10 pm

FlyLEN2019 wrote:
What do you guys think is next in terms of AA at FAT? I know that we get a lot of DFW (4-5X 738s daily this summer), but PHX has been cut back from previous times this summer (we’ve had 1-2X A319/20s daily plus 1-2 CR7/9s). I bet traffic is being directed at DFW mainly, but we had ORD cut after a very successful summer where loads averaged over 90%. I bet this is due to staffing issues, but do you guys think ORD could be brought back in the future?


Depends on AA's plans for ORD. CLT is a much bigger hub and domestic connecting opportunity than ORD on AA, but CLT has less O&D from FAT than Chicago, and ties up an aircraft for longer.

There's also UA and (maybe) WN to contend with to Chicago, while CLT would basically be a monopoly.

How many redeyes does AA have to DFW this summer? Could they do 3-4 per week redeyes to CLT rather than to DFW during a future summer?
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:19 pm

Is the LHR-BOS flight sticking around past the summer?
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:06 am

AA returning in Nov 2022 to several cities in Cuba,
https://simpleflying.com/american-airlines-cuba-return/
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:05 pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/GioBenitez/s ... 2282519552

BREAKING: An overnight computer glitch has allowed thousands of American Airlines pilots to drop their scheduled flights. The union says at least 12,000 flights are now without pilots starting tomorrow through the end of July. -
@SweeneyABC
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:25 pm

jolt3on wrote:
https://mobile.twitter.com/GioBenitez/status/1543321732282519552

BREAKING: An overnight computer glitch has allowed thousands of American Airlines pilots to drop their scheduled flights. The union says at least 12,000 flights are now without pilots starting tomorrow through the end of July. -
@SweeneyABC


The summer of meltdowns is only getting worse.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:46 pm

...to be less alarmist, though, via the same tweet's responses;

https://mobile.twitter.com/GioBenitez/status/1543321732282519552
In a second statement to @ABC, American Airlines says there will be no impact to the holiday operation.


Per the image, (proposed comment from AA):

https://mobile.twitter.com/GioBenitez/status/1543330227648069632/photo/1
"We already have restored the vast majority of the affected trips, and do not anticipate any operational impact because of the issue,".
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:15 pm

Rajahdhani wrote:
...to be less alarmist, though, via the same tweet's responses;

https://mobile.twitter.com/GioBenitez/status/1543321732282519552
In a second statement to @ABC, American Airlines says there will be no impact to the holiday operation.


Per the image, (proposed comment from AA):

https://mobile.twitter.com/GioBenitez/status/1543330227648069632/photo/1
"We already have restored the vast majority of the affected trips, and do not anticipate any operational impact because of the issue,".



According to a message by APA leadership, there is no contractual remedy for the company to put those crews back on those trips. So, if those trips can not be restored to those crew members, then what? It will be interesting to see what happens going forward...

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