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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:01 am

Funny to read these, because just a page or two ago, I was remarking at how much more common it is to see the new livery now. I feel like if you're at a hub, you're likely to now see a sizeable mass of planes in new colors instead of just the oddball here and there. According to the fleet site, more than 25% of the mainline fleet and more than 35% of the express fleet are in new colors. I don't think that's horrible given that things did slow down for a bit, and we always knew this was going to take years. It took WN 5-6 years to do their fleet, and they only have one fleet type and far fewer planes if you include express.

It does give me a little bit of PMUA vibes to see the fleet in different colors, but at least the old and new colors are similar enough that it's not as drastic of a contrast from Battleship to Rising Blue, or both of those to the globe colors. Remember the clown nose planes? Those were fun times.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:19 pm

A319
N805UA is scheduled to exit GYR storage and ferry to BFM For heavy MX and return to service.
Down to 5 319’s in storage
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:19 pm

RyanairGuru wrote:
Way back in 2019 United said that aircraft would be repainted into the new livery when they go through recurrent repainting, the intention was never to take aircraft out of service just to be repainted. Repaints did slow down in 2020 and 2021, so they are slightly behind where they would be without Covid, but this was always going to be an ~8 year process. Complaining that the fleet isn’t repainted after 3 years is ignoring their stated intention, even without Covid.


I wish anet had a like button. This x10000000.

NEXTing the 737 fleet has to be a top 3 needs for capex dollars. The interiors and first-class cabins in them are negatively affecting the brand more than any other single item. (my opinion)

As I see it, Kirby has prioritized investment in 3 areas:

1) New narrowbody airplanes to grow the airline domestically, which is where the greatest ROI is, as well as strategic future of the company.
2) Differentiated on-board product. Not being flashy or over the top but professionally executed in the areas it matters most. Polaris is highly competitive and successful. This area is where UNITED NEXT is such a critical step given the large % of fleet the 737's make up. The other narrowbodies are already competitive.
3) Digitalization enablement. Leveraging industry 4.0 and modern IT solutions to make better operational decisions and enhance the customer experience. From innovative concepts such as forulamizing the hold aircraft at departure gate process for late connects when possible to automated IROPS, from their award winning app and website that lets teh customer do nearly everything without having to place a call, to the quality of their gate agents (even outsourced ones) and phone reps. They're the clear leaders in this department and it's pretty clear they will continue forging their own path forward to continually improvement, irrespective of what the competition is doing.
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:23 pm

RMTAviation wrote:
Anybody know which United planes have the colorful moodlighting (like Purple, Green, red, etc)?


The 737 MAXes, the 787s, and any 737-800 or 737-900ER with "sky" in its seatmap name in this chart.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:33 pm

adamblang wrote:
RMTAviation wrote:
Anybody know which United planes have the colorful moodlighting (like Purple, Green, red, etc)?


The 737 MAXes, the 787s, and any 737-800 or 737-900ER with "sky" in its seatmap name in this chart.


What about the 772's and 77Ws?
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Mon Apr 25, 2022 3:46 pm

RMTAviation wrote:
adamblang wrote:
RMTAviation wrote:
Anybody know which United planes have the colorful moodlighting (like Purple, Green, red, etc)?


The 737 MAXes, the 787s, and any 737-800 or 737-900ER with "sky" in its seatmap name in this chart.


What about the 772's and 77Ws?


The 77Ws have mood lighting. I don’t think the 772s do.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:57 pm

intotheair wrote:
RMTAviation wrote:
adamblang wrote:


What about the 772's and 77Ws?


The 77Ws have mood lighting. I don’t think the 772s do.


None of the 772s do, as neither does the 757, 767, or airbus fleet. Kinda bummed out they didn't invest in mood lighting for the 76/77 the way delta did, it would've made the cabin a lot more sleeker looking.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:15 pm

itripreport wrote:
intotheair wrote:
RMTAviation wrote:

What about the 772's and 77Ws?


The 77Ws have mood lighting. I don’t think the 772s do.


None of the 772s do, as neither does the 757, 767, or airbus fleet. Kinda bummed out they didn't invest in mood lighting for the 76/77 the way delta did, it would've made the cabin a lot more sleeker looking.


AA also installed mood lighting on its 738 and 77E retrofits.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:40 pm

When will the A319/320 get the new cabin? Have they even started the cabin retrofit?
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:10 pm

Cmac787 wrote:
A319
N805UA is scheduled to exit GYR storage and ferry to BFM For heavy MX and return to service.
Down to 5 319’s in storage


Not even close. There are still 14 CFM’s in storage plus 2 on order. And another 13 IAE aircraft in storage. So nearly 30 United A319’s yet to be put into service or parted out.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue Apr 26, 2022 1:45 am

n471wn wrote:
Cmac787 wrote:
A319
N805UA is scheduled to exit GYR storage and ferry to BFM For heavy MX and return to service.
Down to 5 319’s in storage


Not even close. There are still 14 CFM’s in storage plus 2 on order. And another 13 IAE aircraft in storage. So nearly 30 United A319’s yet to be put into service or parted out.


United has 319s with CFMs? Are there pictures?

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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue Apr 26, 2022 1:51 am

SESGDL wrote:
n471wn wrote:
Cmac787 wrote:
A319
N805UA is scheduled to exit GYR storage and ferry to BFM For heavy MX and return to service.
Down to 5 319’s in storage


Not even close. There are still 14 CFM’s in storage plus 2 on order. And another 13 IAE aircraft in storage. So nearly 30 United A319’s yet to be put into service or parted out.


United has 319s with CFMs? Are there pictures?

Jeremy

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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:12 am

UA has over 210 units (25%) of mainline and over 200 (35%) of express fleet repainted into the new version of the Globe. Currently, there are 2 NB and 2 WB paint lines and several 772PW units have been painted while in VCV. I believe 1 additional NB paint line has been pulled due to aircraft shortage. Very few units are not stored or in maint or parked. The EvoBlu scheme is an update to the UA livery and looks really sharp. However, it takes time and UA will not be painting aircraft painted in the last 5 years. Once the 772PWQ units go online, you'd think UA would have more flexibility to get more units into paint.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:18 am

It took 8 years and a day to get rid of battleship grey.
One of the 777s was in the same paint for 12.5 years, so hopefully they will go faster than the natural repaint schedule.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:39 am

Does anyone know if the 764s in Y currently still have the CO-style purple checkerboard seat pattern, or do they have the now-standard blue/navy leatherette? Are there any planes in the fleet left with the checkerboard seat pattern for that matter?
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:28 am

76L
N686UA is headed to HKG for heavy MX F2746/26 Apr
75B
N21108 is scheduled to exit ROW storage and ferry to ILN F2729/26Apr
77G
N768UA is scheduled to exit ROW storage and ferry to XMN for heavy MX
788
N28912 has been in SFO for MX since 4-9. Is scheduled to ferry to IAD
79M
N37504
Has been out of service since 4-23 due to flap damage
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:16 pm

intotheair wrote:
Does anyone know if the 764s in Y currently still have the CO-style purple checkerboard seat pattern, or do they have the now-standard blue/navy leatherette? Are there any planes in the fleet left with the checkerboard seat pattern for that matter?


Most have the leather seats I think, and have for some time. Flew EWR-ATH and FCO-EWR in 2018 both on the 767-400ER and they sported leather seats in economy.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:17 pm

TPG reporting the entire 767-400ER will finally be "Polaris-ed" with the first plane to sport the new interiors by summer and the entire fleet completed by Summer 2023.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:02 pm

ADent wrote:
It took 8 years and a day to get rid of battleship grey. One of the 777s was in the same paint for 12.5 years, so hopefully they will go faster than the natural repaint schedule.

BA still has some 2009 B777s in their delivery colours today, how long is too long?
Taking eight years to rebrand a business is surely sub-optimal? Air Canada are in the same boat mind.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:08 pm

skipness1E wrote:
ADent wrote:
It took 8 years and a day to get rid of battleship grey. One of the 777s was in the same paint for 12.5 years, so hopefully they will go faster than the natural repaint schedule.

BA still has some 2009 B777s in their delivery colours today, how long is too long?
Taking eight years to rebrand a business is surely sub-optimal? Air Canada are in the same boat mind.


I mean it’s not like the BA livery was a massive change…
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:06 pm

Please keep the thread on topic. There's no need to rehash old arguments.

✈️ atcsundevil
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:59 pm

ContinentalEWR wrote:
intotheair wrote:
Does anyone know if the 764s in Y currently still have the CO-style purple checkerboard seat pattern, or do they have the now-standard blue/navy leatherette? Are there any planes in the fleet left with the checkerboard seat pattern for that matter?


Most have the leather seats I think, and have for some time. Flew EWR-ATH and FCO-EWR in 2018 both on the 767-400ER and they sported leather seats in economy.


Thanks. That's about what I thought, but I couldn't exactly tell from pictures online as there don't seem to be many recent cabin pictures of the 764. I feel like I haven't seen the checkerboard seats on the 737 in a few years either.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:58 pm

Reported 764 Polaris configuration

This compares to current 39+70+131

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRRbL01WUAI ... =4096x4096
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:02 pm

I just wonder if UA will do any overhead bin retrofits on the ex-CO 737NGs and 753s, as well as the A319/A320s. In the case of the 737NG and 753, as far as I know, the official Boeing Sky Interior retrofit is only certified for the 737NG despite the 753 interior being the same as the original 737NG interior. The alternative would be to go with the similar Zodiac/Safran interior which I think is certified for both.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:04 pm

1337Delta764 wrote:
I just wonder if UA will do any overhead bin retrofits on the ex-CO 737NGs and 753s, as well as the A319/A320s. In the case of the 737NG and 753, as far as I know, the official Boeing Sky Interior retrofit is only certified for the 737NG despite the 753 having the same interior. The alternative would be to go with the similar Zodiac/Safran interior which I think is certified for both.

Yes - the bins are supposed to be replaced when the cabin refits take place for UnitedNext.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:07 pm

Scarebus34 wrote:
1337Delta764 wrote:
I just wonder if UA will do any overhead bin retrofits on the ex-CO 737NGs and 753s, as well as the A319/A320s. In the case of the 737NG and 753, as far as I know, the official Boeing Sky Interior retrofit is only certified for the 737NG despite the 753 having the same interior. The alternative would be to go with the similar Zodiac/Safran interior which I think is certified for both.

Yes - the bins are supposed to be replaced when the cabin refits take place for UnitedNext.


Interesting. I wonder which product will they go with, official Boeing Sky Interior, the Zodiac/Safran interior, or something else? If the 753s are planned to get them as well, I wonder what they will get, because as far as I know the official Boeing Sky Interior isn't certified on the 753.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:25 pm

Note the source tweet says this was a rejected config.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:32 pm

Forward cabin mod looks right, though. Would appear that derided lavs at 2L/R are staying put and refurbed. Galley unit G4 is deleted as well. Seems reasonable given the reduced packout of the revised Polaris service plus four fewer cabin seats, not to mention that the 76L has roughly the same galley space at 1L/R only and can accommodate a Polaris service for 45-46. I wonder if service flows will be revised accordingly.

Pilots will be pleased to see their rest seat now 1A like the other Polaris 767s. The 7D seat on the current 764 isn't particularly desirable. 12D looks rather unpleasant as the seat is practically within the FA work area adjacent to 2L with no curtain or partition to block light/noise.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:24 pm

UPlog wrote:
Reported 764 Polaris configuration

This compares to current 39+70+131

Image
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRRbL01WUAI ... =4096x4096

And as they're only loosing 2 rows of E+ (with one row of reg Y becoming E+), I assume they are reducing E+ from 35" to 24" to accommodate the extra pitch for the 3 rows of PE? And otherwise keeping the arrangement behind doors 3R/L the same?
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:01 am

With another date for SFO-BLR, are the 787-9s that UA needed to modify for that service already flying? Is there a specific route(s) they fly to?
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:24 am

739 Paint:
N39416 sked to enter AMA 2765/27Apr for EvoBlu livery
N37464 sked to exit AMA 2718/27Apr in EvoBlu livery
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:17 pm

More detail on 764 Polaris refits:

https://thepointsguy.com/news/united-ai ... it-update/

Also:

The airline currently has two Boeing 767-300s and four Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners that haven’t been retrofitted, but those will feature the new cabins by the end of this summer, Quayle said.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:39 pm

adamblang wrote:
More detail on 764 Polaris refits:

https://thepointsguy.com/news/united-ai ... it-update/

Also:

The airline currently has two Boeing 767-300s and four Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners that haven’t been retrofitted, but those will feature the new cabins by the end of this summer, Quayle said.


only 1 763 has not, these are as follows:

763:
N657UA stored

789:
N35953
N38955
N45956
N27958
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:04 pm

Based on this article it seems that maybe N67055 that just entered HKG may be getting Polaris

adamblang wrote:
More detail on 764 Polaris refits:

https://thepointsguy.com/news/united-ai ... it-update/

Also:

The airline currently has two Boeing 767-300s and four Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners that haven’t been retrofitted, but those will feature the new cabins by the end of this summer, Quayle said.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:16 pm

753
N77871 has exited ILNMX and is back in service
77M
N768UA is scheduled to exit ROW storage and ferry to HKG for MX
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:26 pm

Cmac787 wrote:
Based on this article it seems that maybe N67055 that just entered HKG may be getting Polaris

adamblang wrote:
More detail on 764 Polaris refits:

https://thepointsguy.com/news/united-ai ... it-update/

Also:

The airline currently has two Boeing 767-300s and four Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners that haven’t been retrofitted, but those will feature the new cabins by the end of this summer, Quayle said.


That would be N76055
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:04 pm

Cmac787 wrote:
Based on this article it seems that maybe N67055 that just entered HKG may be getting Polaris


SBAer wrote:
That would be N76055



N76055 is not the pilot aircraft for 764 Polaris conversion.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:22 am

airboss787 wrote:
With another date for SFO-BLR, are the 787-9s that UA needed to modify for that service already flying? Is there a specific route(s) they fly to?


As I recall, UAL does not have any additional 787-9s on order. So the answer to your question is yes, all of th -9s are already flying.

Once the Pratt and Whitney powered 777s are back flying, I'm sure we'll see some shifting of aircraft with the goal of freeing up 787-9s for long and thin routes like SFO-BLR.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:50 pm

79M
N37504 is scheduled to MX ferry to LAX for additional repairs. Will be OTS for a bit longer
A319
N880UA is scheduled to enter LCQ MX
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:52 pm

airboss787 wrote:
With another date for SFO-BLR, are the 787-9s that UA needed to modify for that service already flying? Is there a specific route(s) they fly to?

I haven't seen anything about installation progress for the the range-enhancing PIP to the previously-delivered 787-9s but enough new build 787-9s were delivered with the PIP to cover the routes that need it.

It was announced that all 787-9s would eventually get the software update. Since it's an engine management software update, it wouldn't be obvious from tracking fleet movements when the update was installed. And I haven't seen anything public about progress on that.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:02 pm

789 Polaris:
N13954 sked to exit XMN 2731/1May with Polaris
788 Maint:
N29907 sked to enter XMN 2730/ May, looks like a maint visit - appears older 788s have recently visited heavy maint. So, it looks like the remaining 4 789s in Diamond will not be moving to XMN for now. Could there be a supply chain issue on Polaris mods? Otherwise, maybe a WB shortage and/or time limit for N29907 for heavy maint.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Mon May 02, 2022 10:20 pm

First of the 2 737s set to be delivered this Quarter just rolled out the final assembly line yesterday, being a 737 MAX 9
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue May 03, 2022 4:15 am

itripreport wrote:
First of the 2 737s set to be delivered this Quarter just rolled out the final assembly line yesterday, being a 737 MAX 9


So this will have the MAX 8 interior instead of the MAX 9 interior right?
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue May 03, 2022 4:25 am

Paint Update:
73G N54711 sked to exit AMA 2736/3May in EvoBlu livery.
753 N57855 sked to enter AMA 2762/3May for EvoBlu livery
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue May 03, 2022 4:39 am

RMTAviation wrote:
itripreport wrote:
First of the 2 737s set to be delivered this Quarter just rolled out the final assembly line yesterday, being a 737 MAX 9


So this will have the MAX 8 interior instead of the MAX 9 interior right?


Yes, so will all new builds!
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue May 03, 2022 5:01 am

Has UA updated the MAX 9 interior lighting colors to match the United Next colors on the Max 8? saw some purple and gold colors on the ambient lighting on a -9 last week and thought maybe they had pushed an update.
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue May 03, 2022 6:46 am

itripreport wrote:
RMTAviation wrote:
itripreport wrote:
First of the 2 737s set to be delivered this Quarter just rolled out the final assembly line yesterday, being a 737 MAX 9


So this will have the MAX 8 interior instead of the MAX 9 interior right?


Yes, so will all new builds!


Can confirm that #7531 will be the first MAX9 with the Next interior :thumbsup:
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue May 03, 2022 10:25 am

A319
N854UA has entered BFMMX F2722
N836UA is scheduled to enter BQNMX F2716
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue May 03, 2022 3:19 pm

UPlog wrote:
Reported 764 Polaris configuration

This compares to current 39+70+131

Image
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRRbL01WUAI ... =4096x4096


Wrong. Official Config.

767-400 POLARIS/PEY INTERIOR CONFIGURATION 34J/24P+/48E+/125Y= 231
 
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Re: United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Tue May 03, 2022 3:32 pm

CALTECH wrote:
Wrong. Official Config.

767-400 POLARIS/PEY INTERIOR CONFIGURATION 34J/24P+/48E+/125Y= 231


The 2nd revision of the 764 will be a nice ride on a TATL route. With the success of PE and it being so hard to get a PE seat, I was hoping that UA would extend that section a bit. I wonder what the real economics of that section are.

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