United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

Gyrfalcon · Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:12 pm

MLIAA wrote:
Any ideas on which powerplant UA will order with the A321neo/XLR? The CFM LEAP offers some commonality with the MAX fleet, but by shutting out Pratt & Whitney they manifest a future without a decades long partner in Pratt as the 320s and 76/77s sunset.

Keeps getting asked in this thread with no sourced answer but rumor is PW GTF.

n471wn · Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:13 pm

n471wn wrote:
N383SW wrote:
n471wn wrote:

I believe all these ex WN and Air Tran birds are being parted out.

Well CALTECH (who seems to be in the know) said they are being RTS=Return to Service and that doesn't sound like parted out.

I am sure he does but of the 20 frames UA bought, 6 have already been parted out—4 in Tupelo and 2 in Marana.

With apologies to CALTECH, another of the ex-WN frames (N7711N) that UA acquired has flown to TUP for part-out.

SgtBarone · Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:19 pm

772
N774UA (#18 PW restart in SFO mx since 6/20) scheduled for SFO-OGG on 7/9:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N774UA

calpsafltskeds · Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:41 pm

737MAX9 New delivery:
N37534 sked to enter SEA Induction 2707/8Jul.

Cmac787 · Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:29 pm

MX update
772
N78003 is scheduled to enter HKGMX F2732/08

calpsafltskeds · Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:14 am

772 Restart Update (33 with below):
N204UA ER/Polaris sked to exit VCV 2749/9Jul
N769UA Dom sked to exit VCV 2748/9Jul

753 Paint:
N75861 sked to exit AMA 2754/9Jul in EvoBlu livery

Bert65 · Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:06 pm

A319 MX:
N814UA entered BQNMX F2742/08
N836UA exited BQNMX F2743/08

RTWin10 · Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:49 pm

SgtBarone wrote:
772
N774UA (#18 PW restart in SFO mx since 6/20) scheduled for SFO-OGG on 7/9:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N774UA

Actually went out on 7/8 as UA 1973 SFO - ORD. Flight was delayed almost 4 hours. Last minute sub?

itripreport · Sat Jul 09, 2022 3:20 pm

jonahsachs wrote:
itripreport wrote:
panam330 wrote:
Hallelujah. The partial bulkheads look incredibly cheap and are pretty pointless.

Currently on 32, it did have the full bulkhead wall also found on the later MAX 9s, and they did also add USB-C outlets in first class!

Interesting. Just USB C up front?
Purple E+?

No purple E+, back to dark blue like later MAX 8 deliveries,
And only USB-C up front, Economy has USB-A on the IFE screens and the 2 power outlets under the 3 seats.

Cmac787 · Sat Jul 09, 2022 3:56 pm

773
N2331UA had aircraft damage to cargo door found upon arrival in BRU.
951 BRU-IAD canceled. N783UA will fly 989 IAD-FRA which has 74 less seats.

audidudi · Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:04 pm

Cmac787 wrote:
773
N2331UA had aircraft damage to cargo door found upon arrival in BRU.
951 BRU-IAD canceled. N783UA will fly 989 IAD-FRA which has 74 less seats.

According to FR24 and UA.com, UA 989 has also been cancelled.

Cmac787 · Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:58 am

Was renumbered as flight 3018

audidudi wrote:
Cmac787 wrote:
773
N2331UA had aircraft damage to cargo door found upon arrival in BRU.
951 BRU-IAD canceled. N783UA will fly 989 IAD-FRA which has 74 less seats.

According to FR24 and UA.com, UA 989 has also been cancelled.

Cmac787 · Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:49 pm

73G
N7710A/N12761 former WN is scheduled to exit ROW storage and ferry to TUP for scrap fleet exit F2709/11

DreamDriver · Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:14 pm

320 RTS news at LCQ-
N442 good check flight 7Jul, started flying pax on the 9th.
N434 good check flight today, likely flying pax early this week.
N430 check flight scheduled 2688/10Jul. This a/c was previously marked as fleet exit along with N431, which is currently at SAL.
5 320s and 2 319s are still stored.
Will be interesting to see if UA pulls 2 a/c to backfill open slots, or if they start RTS on 319 N842UA which is stored at LCQ.

boeingatchs · Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:00 pm

DreamDriver wrote:
320 RTS news at LCQ-
N442 good check flight 7Jul, started flying pax on the 9th.
N434 good check flight today, likely flying pax early this week.
N430 check flight scheduled 2688/10Jul. This a/c was previously marked as fleet exit along with N431, which is currently at SAL.
5 320s and 2 319s are still stored.
Will be interesting to see if UA pulls 2 a/c to backfill open slots, or if they start RTS on 319 N842UA which is stored at LCQ.

N842UA is not at LCQ and is already out of storage.

n471wn · Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:09 pm

boeingatchs wrote:
DreamDriver wrote:
320 RTS news at LCQ-
N442 good check flight 7Jul, started flying pax on the 9th.
N434 good check flight today, likely flying pax early this week.
N430 check flight scheduled 2688/10Jul. This a/c was previously marked as fleet exit along with N431, which is currently at SAL.
5 320s and 2 319s are still stored.
Will be interesting to see if UA pulls 2 a/c to backfill open slots, or if they start RTS on 319 N842UA which is stored at LCQ.

N842UA is not at LCQ and is already out of storage.

Flightaware shows it flew to BQN over a month ago.

DreamDriver · Mon Jul 11, 2022 12:34 am

boeingatchs wrote:
DreamDriver wrote:
320 RTS news at LCQ-
N442 good check flight 7Jul, started flying pax on the 9th.
N434 good check flight today, likely flying pax early this week.
N430 check flight scheduled 2688/10Jul. This a/c was previously marked as fleet exit along with N431, which is currently at SAL.
5 320s and 2 319s are still stored.
Will be interesting to see if UA pulls 2 a/c to backfill open slots, or if they start RTS on 319 N842UA which is stored at LCQ.

N842UA is not at LCQ and is already out of storage.

Good catch, meant N843!

boeingatchs · Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:29 am

DreamDriver wrote:
boeingatchs wrote:
DreamDriver wrote:
320 RTS news at LCQ-
N442 good check flight 7Jul, started flying pax on the 9th.
N434 good check flight today, likely flying pax early this week.
N430 check flight scheduled 2688/10Jul. This a/c was previously marked as fleet exit along with N431, which is currently at SAL.
5 320s and 2 319s are still stored.
Will be interesting to see if UA pulls 2 a/c to backfill open slots, or if they start RTS on 319 N842UA which is stored at LCQ.

N842UA is not at LCQ and is already out of storage.

Good catch, meant N843!

N843UA will leave storage this month with N474UA as well

CALTECH · Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:42 pm

763, 764, 765 are getting RTS at ROW, then will ferry to TUP after RTS. Scrap or Long Term Storage...(?)

737-MAX8s Nose Numbers 7251- 7319 now (69)
737-MAX9s Nose Numbers 7501- 7573 now (73)
737-MAX10s Nose Numbers 7751- 7757 plus 4 more no nose numbers displayed (11)

CALTECH · Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:53 pm

CALTECH wrote:
763, 764, 765 are getting RTS at ROW, then will ferry to TUP after RTS. Scrap or Long Term Storage...(?)

737-MAX8s Nose Numbers 7251- 7319 now (69)
737-MAX9s Nose Numbers 7501- 7573 now (73)
737-MAX10s Nose Numbers 7751- 7757 plus 4 more no nose numbers displayed (11)

Reserved Nose Numbers, not necessarily to be filled at all, as with other fleets and intermixed nose numbers..,
737-MAX8......7251-7500
737-MAX9......7501-7600
737-MAX10....7601-7999

boeingatchs · Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:58 pm

CALTECH wrote:
763, 764, 765 are getting RTS at ROW, then will ferry to TUP after RTS. Scrap or Long Term Storage...(?)

737-MAX8s Nose Numbers 7251- 7319 now (69)
737-MAX9s Nose Numbers 7501- 7573 now (73)
737-MAX10s Nose Numbers 7751- 7757 plus 4 more no nose numbers displayed (11)

100% scrap as previously planned

SgtBarone · Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:53 pm

Cmac787 wrote:
773
N2331UA had aircraft damage to cargo door found upon arrival in BRU.
951 BRU-IAD canceled. N783UA will fly 989 IAD-FRA which has 74 less seats.

N2331U ferried BRU-EWR earlier today:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N2331U

calpsafltskeds · Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:29 pm

I'm showing 737MAX-10s start with N27751, 7751 (in certification testing), and N numbers 7751-7799 appear reserved with FAA.

Cmac787 · Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:51 pm

N27015 F933 air returned to FRA for pressurization issues. 932 IAD-FRA canceled due to no Spare 777
Now scheduled to operate 933/12

SEAorPWM · Tue Jul 12, 2022 4:10 am

boeingatchs wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
763, 764, 765 are getting RTS at ROW, then will ferry to TUP after RTS. Scrap or Long Term Storage...(?)

737-MAX8s Nose Numbers 7251- 7319 now (69)
737-MAX9s Nose Numbers 7501- 7573 now (73)
737-MAX10s Nose Numbers 7751- 7757 plus 4 more no nose numbers displayed (11)

100% scrap as previously planned

I misread this as the whole entire 767 and 757 fleets, but these are just the ex-WN 73Gs right? :scared:

n471wn · Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:08 pm

N7710A (one of the ex WN birds that UAL acquired and never used) has now flown to TUP for scrapping.

Cmac787 · Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:20 pm

Yes. Former WN birds

SEAorPWM wrote:
boeingatchs wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
763, 764, 765 are getting RTS at ROW, then will ferry to TUP after RTS. Scrap or Long Term Storage...(?)

737-MAX8s Nose Numbers 7251- 7319 now (69)
737-MAX9s Nose Numbers 7501- 7573 now (73)
737-MAX10s Nose Numbers 7751- 7757 plus 4 more no nose numbers displayed (11)

100% scrap as previously planned

I misread this as the whole entire 767 and 757 fleets, but these are just the ex-WN 73Gs right?

SgtBarone · Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:21 pm

773
N2331U back in service; scheduled EWR-CDG today:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N2331U

calpsafltskeds · Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:02 am

772PW Restart Update (34 with below):
N768UA Dom exited VCV 2739/12Jul

DreamDriver · Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:14 pm

320 RTS:
N434UA LCQ to ORD 2747/13.

Cmac787 · Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:56 am

752
N17128 has exit row storage and Ferried to IAH f2728!12

calpsafltskeds · Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:10 am

772PW Restart:
N768UA 1st Revenue flight 2276/14Jul
N204UA 1st REvenue flight sked 2213/15Jul
UA Paint Update:
739 75410 sked to enter AMA 2731/15July for EvoBlu livery
73G N16701 sked to exit AMA 2716/15Jul in EvoBlu livery

Bert65 · Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:37 am

ex SWA 737 N7712G scheduled to ferry from ROW to TUP F2710/15

ikolkyo · Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:55 pm

Just saw that a 78X subbed in on a EWR-JNB turn. I really wonder what the capabilities of that aircraft would be a with a bit more TOW/thrust

Pinto · Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:02 pm

ikolkyo wrote:
Just saw that a 78X subbed in on a EWR-JNB turn. I really wonder what the capabilities of that aircraft would be a with a bit more TOW/thrust

When was this sub, not seeing it on my end?

Opus99 · Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:05 pm

[twoid][/twoid]

Pinto wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
Just saw that a 78X subbed in on a EWR-JNB turn. I really wonder what the capabilities of that aircraft would be a with a bit more TOW/thrust

When was this sub, not seeing it on my end?

11th of July

ScorpioMC3 · Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:25 pm

ikolkyo wrote:
Just saw that a 78X subbed in on a EWR-JNB turn. I really wonder what the capabilities of that aircraft would be a with a bit more TOW/thrust

It was a last minute swap due to the scheduled 789 going OOS. It was weight restricted to the 789 capacity initially but it looks like they cleared non revs in the end.

Pinto · Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:29 pm

ScorpioMC3 wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
Just saw that a 78X subbed in on a EWR-JNB turn. I really wonder what the capabilities of that aircraft would be a with a bit more TOW/thrust

It was a last minute swap due to the scheduled 789 going OOS. It was weight restricted to the 789 capacity initially but it looks like they cleared non revs in the end.

The flight there isn't the real issue, taling off from JNB must have been rough.

ADent · Fri Jul 15, 2022 5:02 pm

Pinto wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
Just saw that a 78X subbed in on a EWR-JNB turn.

The flight there isn't the real issue, taking off from JNB must have been rough.

The 787-10 has the same MTOW as 787-9.
Performance should be similar, unless rotation angle is a problem.

CALTECH · Fri Jul 15, 2022 5:11 pm

Aircraft #061, 767-400 is in for POLARIS STC. ETR 8/26.

AviationLuver · Fri Jul 15, 2022 5:37 pm

Pinto wrote:
ScorpioMC3 wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
Just saw that a 78X subbed in on a EWR-JNB turn. I really wonder what the capabilities of that aircraft would be a with a bit more TOW/thrust

It was a last minute swap due to the scheduled 789 going OOS. It was weight restricted to the 789 capacity initially but it looks like they cleared non revs in the end.

The flight there isn't the real issue, taling off from JNB must have been rough.

The EWR-JNB leg clocked in at 15:44, so even it would 'pose a problem'. Most people on here seem to think anything over about 12 hours starts to incur weight restrictions, so going nearly 4 hours over this is amazing. It's simply incredible that it flew with all the passengers, including some standby's.

I'd like to know how it performed, the takeoff weight, etc. It really goes to show you how capable the aircraft is.

The return was actually shorter at 15:03, but it has more issues with takeoff as you alluded to at JNB. Again, I'd like to see the 'numbers' for these flights. Great job for the 78X, nonetheless.

Pinto · Fri Jul 15, 2022 5:40 pm

ADent wrote:
Pinto wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
Just saw that a 78X subbed in on a EWR-JNB turn.

The flight there isn't the real issue, taking off from JNB must have been rough.

The 787-10 has the same MTOW as 787-9.
Performance should be similar, unless rotation angle is a problem.

You have to factor in the fact that the 787-10 has a 15,000lb higher OEW.

FlyGuy27 · Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:08 pm

There has been a leadership shake-up at United. Of note, Andrew Nocella, previously head of the hard product (and apparently responsible for United Next), will take over the soft product. Not sure who previously ran that group but I am hopeful this will mean good things.

EssentialBusDC · Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:25 pm

AviationLuver wrote:
Pinto wrote:
ScorpioMC3 wrote:

It was a last minute swap due to the scheduled 789 going OOS. It was weight restricted to the 789 capacity initially but it looks like they cleared non revs in the end.

The flight there isn't the real issue, taling off from JNB must have been rough.

The EWR-JNB leg clocked in at 15:44, so even it would 'pose a problem'. Most people on here seem to think anything over about 12 hours starts to incur weight restrictions, so going nearly 4 hours over this is amazing. It's simply incredible that it flew with all the passengers, including some standby's.

I'd like to know how it performed, the takeoff weight, etc. It really goes to show you how capable the aircraft is.

The return was actually shorter at 15:03, but it has more issues with takeoff as you alluded to at JNB. Again, I'd like to see the 'numbers' for these flights. Great job for the 78X, nonetheless.

Flew with all the booked 787-9 passengers a max of 257. Even if you added some lucky non revs, it wouldn't be close to being full in the cabin, which would be 318 seats.

seat1a · Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:13 pm

What about the Boom Supersonic jet. Where does that fit in. Suspend reality for the moment - if the plane works out as planned, is it a jet that's deployed from SFO/LAX to Asia or Australia? Or EWR to Europe or South America?

adamblang · Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:22 pm

seat1a wrote:
What about the Boom Supersonic jet. Where does that fit in. Suspend reality for the moment - if the plane works out as planned, is it a jet that's deployed from SFO/LAX to Asia or Australia? Or EWR to Europe or South America?

Any place with a lot of wealthy people on the other side of an ocean from a United hub, but within 4250nm of that hub, would be a candidate.

Newark and Dulles to London, Paris, Amsterdam, Frankfurt, Zürich, Brussels? Maybe a San Francisco or Los Angeles to Tokyo with a fuel stop in Anchorage? Maybe a San Francisco or Los Angeles to Sydney or Melbourne with fuel stop in Honolulu?

United1 · Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:23 pm

seat1a wrote:
What about the Boom Supersonic jet. Where does that fit in. Suspend reality for the moment - if the plane works out as planned, is it a jet that's deployed from SFO/LAX to Asia or Australia? Or EWR to Europe or South America?

UA mentioned SFO-NRT and EWR-LHR/FRA routes when they signed up for the plane.

DreamDriver · Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:53 pm

752 RTS- N17126 MX check flight IAH-IAH 2697/16

739M- N37534 2010/15 SEA-ORD 1st Rev Flight

New 787-10 N17015 flew SKF-PAE (Boeing 50/12th)….might be getting ready for delivery as soon as FAA gives the green light. Another thread here says possibly next week.

calpsafltskeds · Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:10 pm

Wiki says the 78X has a max payload of 126,300 and MGTOW of 560,000lbs. However, if the tanks are full that gives you 522,373 (empty weight plus fuel), so payload could only be 37,627. That's 188 passengers at 200 lbs. and no cargo.
The 78X thrust per engine is 76k vs 71k, meaning the fuel burn must be higher and the service ceiling is 2,000 feet lower. For it to make it is amazing since the flight was 500 NM longer than the stated range of the 78X.

ILikeTrains · Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:59 am

787-10 range chart has it carrying ~28T around 7,000nm. It is winter right now in JNB which helps performance.

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