United Airlines Fleet Thread - 2022

rising · Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:27 am

adamblang wrote:
jbs2886 wrote:
Jetport wrote:
I really don't care how they do it, but United needs to retire all of the CRJ200's now. I am flying PWM-AVL round trip in February and the only United options that fit my schedule are on CRJ200's both ways through ORD. United is usually my first choice (Platinum status), but all 4 segments on the awful one class CRJ200 is a deal breaker. I will either double connect on Delta or connect through CLT on AA. All segments have 3 class cabins on AA and Delta. Please kill the CRJ200 now, especially on longer flights like PWM-ORD!

Wow, incredibly selfish post. You don’t care about the impact to dozens of communities that need air connections, but can’t support larger RJs. Complain about UA putting the -200s on longer routes, but to assert they should all be retired immediately because it’s not your preference is selfish.

That’s a core component of United Next program though – 200 single class 50-seat RJs are going to exit the fleet in favor of CRJ-500s, E-175s, and cascading upgauges.

If it sounds to good to be true it always is. I can't wait to see how much flying actually goes to mainline. I would not be shocked to see this whole program being more a marketing gimmick and we see just mainly an upgage to a CRJ500 or a E175, and not really any net new mainline flying. Generally with United the E-175 or the overrated CRJ550 is the upgrade. I really hope there is a true replacement of a material amount of Express flights with mainline flying with these 200+ planes and they don't just end up using them to retire older planes. I have a strong feeling it will be the later. But there is always hope!

MIflyer12 · Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:47 am

JoseSalazar wrote:
In short, UA is not constrained by RJs. It’s not that they don’t have a pathway to market a flight with less than 143 seats…that’s complete misinformation. They can shift capacity and frequency with what they have, and they have the means to get more 76 seaters, which would also give them more planes in the small in-between range as well to more precisely match capacity.

And yet they don't buy the new small narrowbodies, nor have RJs at mainline, because they don't see either as a path to improved profitability, because of the low labor $ productivity of UA mainline.

UAinAUS · Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:48 am

UAX Update:

CR2:
N701BR exited ROW in EvoBlu livery
N959SW entered ROW for paint

CR5:
N518LR has been re-registered as N574GJ

CR7:
N513MJ ferried STL for CR5 conversion

calpsafltskeds · Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:48 am

789 Polaris:
N24972 is next one into XMN for Polaris, 2742/23Jan

airplanedriver6 · Sat Jan 22, 2022 4:46 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
JoseSalazar wrote:
In short, UA is not constrained by RJs. It’s not that they don’t have a pathway to market a flight with less than 143 seats…that’s complete misinformation. They can shift capacity and frequency with what they have, and they have the means to get more 76 seaters, which would also give them more planes in the small in-between range as well to more precisely match capacity.

And yet they don't buy the new small narrowbodies, nor have RJs at mainline, because they don't see either as a path to improved profitability, because of the low labor $ productivity of UA mainline.

Considering that UAX carriers are currently short pilots and it’s about to become much, much worse due to enormous hiring by mainline carriers in 2022, it looks like there’s also a serious business case problem with RJs at the regional level. There’s only a shortage of poorly paid pilots.

It could also be argued that UAL does not need to buy new small mainline narrow-bodies quite yet due to the United Next up-gauging plan. As larger narrow-bodies displace smaller narrow-bodies at mainline, those smaller narrow-bodies become available for other markets.

sldispatcher · Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:55 pm

On long thin ERJ-175 routes, is the USED A319 or the USED 737-700 the more cost effective to replace the ERJ-175?

airplanedriver6 · Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:32 pm

sldispatcher wrote:
On long thin ERJ-175 routes, is the USED A319 or the USED 737-700 the more cost effective to replace the ERJ-175?

According to reported DOT data, the operating cost of a UA 737-700 is less than $100/hr lower than a UA A319.

At that point, the decision on any given route is probably focused more on crew availability (schedule efficiency) or runway performance than operating cost, and that's not even considering that the reported data is probably already skewed by the current average longer segments on the 737 at UA.

boeingatchs · Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:45 pm

Boeing12345 wrote:
Bert65 wrote:
Boeing12345 wrote:

883 and 884 are scheduled for induction mods later this year. As for 866-869, 866 is already parted out and the same fate for 867-869. 4910-4915 will also be parted and scrapped.

Do you have any idea what will happen with N870UB?

Sorry, yes 4870 will be parted and scrapped as well.

As for the EasyJet aircraft, believe a deal was reached in December for 19 if not all 20. One odd thing is they appear to be a sell or lease back to EasyJet.

Pretty interesting to see what ends up happening with the easyjet fleet, 4311 and 4315 are scheduled to be delivered next week.

Jetport · Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:21 am

rising wrote:
adamblang wrote:
jbs2886 wrote:

Wow, incredibly selfish post. You don’t care about the impact to dozens of communities that need air connections, but can’t support larger RJs. Complain about UA putting the -200s on longer routes, but to assert they should all be retired immediately because it’s not your preference is selfish.

That’s a core component of United Next program though – 200 single class 50-seat RJs are going to exit the fleet in favor of CRJ-500s, E-175s, and cascading upgauges.

If it sounds to good to be true it always is. I can't wait to see how much flying actually goes to mainline. I would not be shocked to see this whole program being more a marketing gimmick and we see just mainly an upgage to a CRJ500 or a E175, and not really any net new mainline flying. Generally with United the E-175 or the overrated CRJ550 is the upgrade. I really hope there is a true replacement of a material amount of Express flights with mainline flying with these 200+ planes and they don't just end up using them to retire older planes. I have a strong feeling it will be the later. But there is always hope!

Please give me more EMB-175's and CRJ-550's over any United narrow body any day. I don't think the CRJ-550 is overrated at all. For those of us with status on United, the odds of an upgrade on a CRJ-550 are very high. I will take a first class seat on a CRJ-550 or EMB-175 (single side especially) over any E+ seat on any 3X3 narrow body United flies every day.

cosyr · Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:23 pm

Jetport wrote:
rising wrote:
adamblang wrote:
That’s a core component of United Next program though – 200 single class 50-seat RJs are going to exit the fleet in favor of CRJ-500s, E-175s, and cascading upgauges.

If it sounds to good to be true it always is. I can't wait to see how much flying actually goes to mainline. I would not be shocked to see this whole program being more a marketing gimmick and we see just mainly an upgage to a CRJ500 or a E175, and not really any net new mainline flying. Generally with United the E-175 or the overrated CRJ550 is the upgrade. I really hope there is a true replacement of a material amount of Express flights with mainline flying with these 200+ planes and they don't just end up using them to retire older planes. I have a strong feeling it will be the later. But there is always hope!

Please give me more EMB-175's and CRJ-550's over any United narrow body any day. I don't think the CRJ-550 is overrated at all. For those of us with status on United, the odds of an upgrade on a CRJ-550 are very high. I will take a first class seat on a CRJ-550 or EMB-175 (single side especially) over any E+ seat on any 3X3 narrow body United flies every day.

Completely agree. The only thing that is not as good on the E175/CR5, is the lack of ovens. I was on a 4 hour long E175 lunchtime flight over Christmas in F. Very comfortable, streaming video and wifi, but the cold snack box was not very appealing. I feel the same in Y, as the 2x2 seating is great, but I would still like to be able to purchase hot food (especially because UA ruined their snack boxes this fall).

fun2fly · Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:12 pm

cosyr wrote:
Jetport wrote:
rising wrote:

If it sounds to good to be true it always is. I can't wait to see how much flying actually goes to mainline. I would not be shocked to see this whole program being more a marketing gimmick and we see just mainly an upgage to a CRJ500 or a E175, and not really any net new mainline flying. Generally with United the E-175 or the overrated CRJ550 is the upgrade. I really hope there is a true replacement of a material amount of Express flights with mainline flying with these 200+ planes and they don't just end up using them to retire older planes. I have a strong feeling it will be the later. But there is always hope!

Please give me more EMB-175's and CRJ-550's over any United narrow body any day. I don't think the CRJ-550 is overrated at all. For those of us with status on United, the odds of an upgrade on a CRJ-550 are very high. I will take a first class seat on a CRJ-550 or EMB-175 (single side especially) over any E+ seat on any 3X3 narrow body United flies every day.

Completely agree. The only thing that is not as good on the E175/CR5, is the lack of ovens. I was on a 4 hour long E175 lunchtime flight over Christmas in F. Very comfortable, streaming video and wifi, but the cold snack box was not very appealing. I feel the same in Y, as the 2x2 seating is great, but I would still like to be able to purchase hot food (especially because UA ruined their snack boxes this fall).

With the E75, you have an excuse due to the oven. I'll fly UA in Y on Friday 3+ hours and see what I get. I did fly ATL>PHX 4+ hours in lie flat first on an A332 and got a cold sandwich (no hot meals) and it was terrible which seemed like a cost cutting measure.

amtravels · Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:58 am

Just curious, any ideas why United has been mum about the Signature Interior retrofits for existing narrow bodies? Is there some sort of certification that needs to occur first before they can begin performing the work? Supplier issues? New tech coming down the pike? Example: waiting on new hardware so they can put in IFE screens with USB-C instead of the already outdated USB-A?

TWA772LR · Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:14 am

amtravels wrote:
Just curious, any ideas why United has been mum about the Signature Interior retrofits for existing narrow bodies? Is there some sort of certification that needs to occur first before they can begin performing the work? Supplier issues? New tech coming down the pike? Example: waiting on new hardware so they can put in IFE screens with USB-C instead of the already outdated USB-A?

I don't care what they do as long as any electric plug taking outlet can actually grab and hold the plug, let alone provide any sufficient amperage to charge the device. On any plane I've been on that has had usb or regular outlets in Y or J has never been able to even keep the plug in.

Rant off

calpsafltskeds · Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:40 am

The plugs between seats in Y should be white, not black - you can't see them. I doubt many will be carrying USB C plugs for a while. It would seem USB A would cover more people than the newer version.

SEAorPWM · Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:12 am

calpsafltskeds wrote:
The plugs between seats in Y should be white, not black - you can't see them. I doubt many will be carrying USB C plugs for a while. It would seem USB A would cover more people than the newer version.

New phones are coming with cords without USB A - at least for Apple.

Pinto · Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:26 am

SEAorPWM wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
The plugs between seats in Y should be white, not black - you can't see them. I doubt many will be carrying USB C plugs for a while. It would seem USB A would cover more people than the newer version.

New phones are coming with cords without USB A - at least for Apple.

I'm surprised Apple actually includes a cord, especially a cord that doesn't require a $99 converter to be able to use wall outlets xD

cosyr · Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:03 pm

SEAorPWM wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
The plugs between seats in Y should be white, not black - you can't see them. I doubt many will be carrying USB C plugs for a while. It would seem USB A would cover more people than the newer version.

New phones are coming with cords without USB A - at least for Apple.

Yes, but even if your device has USB-C, most people still have a cable that is A on one end, as most cars are still A, and most computers have A, in addition to C. I'm curious what the replacement rate for these types of outlets is on a plane. Seems like they could upgrade it to USB-C in time, as they break, and more people get USB-C. Obviously it would be great if UA would just have both, but I have to clean dust out of the USB-C port on my phone at least once a month, so I can't imagine how much crud gets in it on a plane.

adamblang · Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:45 pm

Just build a wireless charging mat into the seat and call it a day.

(I'm going to guess that 150 wireless charging matts on an airplane is a nonstarter.)

elbandgeek · Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:09 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
787-9 Polaris/PP:
N26952 sked to exit XMN 2741/22Jan in Polaris/PP
N27957 sked to enter XMN 2740/22Jan for Polari/PP mod.
N26966 sked to exit XMN 2743/23Jan in Polaris/PP
Expect N24972 as next one in on 1/23.
This will leave only 7 flying with Diamond seats and 3 in mod.

I booked an ORD-IAH trip next month for a weekend getaway and the southbound leg is on a 789. I'm considering buying an upgrade just because I might be the only time I could afford ride in a lie-flat and the website is showing the old configuration. With as few left that haven't been converted is it possible that's just a placeholder and it could still have the new seats? I'm not sure how far out these things are scheduled.

AA94 · Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:23 pm

elbandgeek wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
787-9 Polaris/PP:
N26952 sked to exit XMN 2741/22Jan in Polaris/PP
N27957 sked to enter XMN 2740/22Jan for Polari/PP mod.
N26966 sked to exit XMN 2743/23Jan in Polaris/PP
Expect N24972 as next one in on 1/23.
This will leave only 7 flying with Diamond seats and 3 in mod.

I booked an ORD-IAH trip next month for a weekend getaway and the southbound leg is on a 789. I'm considering buying an upgrade just because I might be the only time I could afford ride in a lie-flat and the website is showing the old configuration. With as few left that haven't been converted is it possible that's just a placeholder and it could still have the new seats? I'm not sure how far out these things are scheduled.

The seat map always shows the old configuration, unless the retrofitted subfleet is specifically scheduled (this is the case for some ULH routes, but generally not domestic or shorthaul international routes). It will be updated 48-72 hours prior when the specific tail is actually routed.

calpsafltskeds · Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:22 am

UA widebody EvoBlu livery:
772 N78004 sked to exit FTW 2727/26Jan in EvoBlu livery
789 N35953 sked to enter FTW 2730/26Jan for EvoBlu livery

redrooster3 · Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:49 am

calpsafltskeds wrote:
UA widebody EvoBlu livery:
772 N78004 sked to exit FTW 2727/26Jan in EvoBlu livery
789 N35953 sked to enter FTW 2730/26Jan for EvoBlu livery

Could it be touch up wing paint like the other 787s?

ChaseP · Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:28 am

Former EasyJet Airbus Movement:
N3315U is scheduled for multiple ferries from QFA to end in ROW.

Paint Update:
N35953, Boeing 787-9, is scheduled to ferry from ORD to FTW for Evo Blue paint. If a full repaint, this will be the first United 787 get the Evo Blue paint brush after delivery.
N78004, Boeing 777-200ER, is scheduled to ferry from FTW after paint.

It appears with the lull in the January and February schedules, United is taking advantage and painting their heavies. N35953 will be the third wide body aircraft painted in 2022. Look for the 767-400 to exit LCQ within the next week.

Cmac787 · Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:56 pm

Paint update
N78509 737-800 is scheduled to exit AMA paint with Evo blue livery and ferry to IAH F2741/27 Jan
N87513 737-800 is scheduled to enter AMA paint for Evo blue livery F2740/27 Jan
I’m surprised there is only one aircraft at a time at AMA. You think there would be more with the lull.

ChaseP · Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:26 pm

Amarillo's paint shop is probably full around this time of year. With aircraft in a natural down period in January and February, airlines around the country are trying to their planes painted. I'm guessing United was only able to secure just the one line. VCV, AMA, LCQ, and FTW are painting planes right now.

celestar345 · Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:45 am

adamblang wrote:
Just build a wireless charging mat into the seat and call it a day.

(I'm going to guess that 150 wireless charging matts on an airplane is a nonstarter.)

well it's possible if you integrate into the phone/ipad holder above the seat tray.

But if a USB port is good enough for the job then there's no big reason to introduce wireless charging.

MIflyer12 · Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:30 pm

celestar345 wrote:
adamblang wrote:
Just build a wireless charging mat into the seat and call it a day.

(I'm going to guess that 150 wireless charging matts on an airplane is a nonstarter.)

well it's possible if you integrate into the phone/ipad holder above the seat tray.

But if a USB port is good enough for the job then there's no big reason to introduce wireless charging.

And, just as there's a big base of phones that lack USB-C ports, many phones don't support wireless charging.

boeingatchs · Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:11 pm

ChaseP wrote:
Former EasyJet Airbus Movement:
N3315U is scheduled for multiple ferries from QFA to end in ROW.

Paint Update:
N35953, Boeing 787-9, is scheduled to ferry from ORD to FTW for Evo Blue paint. If a full repaint, this will be the first United 787 get the Evo Blue paint brush after delivery.
N78004, Boeing 777-200ER, is scheduled to ferry from FTW after paint.

It appears with the lull in the January and February schedules, United is taking advantage and painting their heavies. N35953 will be the third wide body aircraft painted in 2022. Look for the 767-400 to exit LCQ within the next week.

I dont think that 787 will get the new livery, most likely just a touch up like the other 3 787s they sent to FTW last year...

Boeing12345 · Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:38 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
UA widebody EvoBlu livery:
772 N78004 sked to exit FTW 2727/26Jan in EvoBlu livery
789 N35953 sked to enter FTW 2730/26Jan for EvoBlu livery

953 is only having the wing upper surface repainted. It is not a full repaint into EvoBlu.

Polot · Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:46 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
celestar345 wrote:
adamblang wrote:
Just build a wireless charging mat into the seat and call it a day.

(I'm going to guess that 150 wireless charging matts on an airplane is a nonstarter.)

well it's possible if you integrate into the phone/ipad holder above the seat tray.

But if a USB port is good enough for the job then there's no big reason to introduce wireless charging.

And, just as there's a big base of phones that lack USB-C ports, many phones don't support wireless charging.

Half the wireless chargers out there suck and just overheat your phone while barely charging it. I would not want it over a USB plug which is almost always faster and better.

Cardude2 · Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:39 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
celestar345 wrote:
adamblang wrote:
Just build a wireless charging mat into the seat and call it a day.

(I'm going to guess that 150 wireless charging matts on an airplane is a nonstarter.)

well it's possible if you integrate into the phone/ipad holder above the seat tray.

But if a USB port is good enough for the job then there's no big reason to introduce wireless charging.

And, just as there's a big base of phones that lack USB-C ports, many phones don't support wireless charging.

won't be long as pretty much all Android phones support USB-C and almost all apple devices support USB-c except for the (school) iPad and all IPhones but that will change since the EU is mandating them to switch to USB-C.

ILikeTrains · Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:28 pm

Yea wireless charging is horribly inefficient. A USB-C port cover like 90% of consumer electronics these days. USB-PD is a nearly universally accepted protocol for charge rates as well.

qantas330 · Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:34 pm

Are there any plans to get any of the 777/3-- repainted? Also where are the 777/300s based for maintenance?

Thanks

airplanedriver6 · Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:50 pm

qantas330 wrote:
Are there any plans to get any of the 777/3-- repainted?

Yup. UAL has said the entire fleet would be painted using normal paint cycles.

However, the UA 777-300ERs are all fairly new (average age <4.5yrs) so they’ll be repainted when the time is up on the factory paint. UAL is not being aggressive about re-painting new airplanes with good paint just to do it.

Pinto · Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:23 am

qantas330 wrote:
Are there any plans to get any of the 777/3-- repainted? Also where are the 777/300s based for maintenance?

Thanks

The 77Ws (777-300ERs) usually go to either HKG or XMN for maintenance. I think some minor stuff can be done at SFO in im not mistaken.

adamblang · Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:25 am

The Boom SST will be built in North Carolina:

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2022/01/ ... jet-plant/

boeingatchs · Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:31 pm

qantas330 wrote:
Are there any plans to get any of the 777/3-- repainted? Also where are the 777/300s based for maintenance?

Thanks

until a few months ago they were planning to paint some of them this year, seems like they removed that plan though.

intotheair · Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:33 am

The first 737-10 to be painted in UA colors:

https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/sta ... 9095436290

TWA772LR · Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:30 am

intotheair wrote:
The first 737-10 to be painted in UA colors:

https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/sta ... 9095436290

Looks amazing! I cannot wait until that thing is in service.

cosyr · Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:32 pm

intotheair wrote:
The first 737-10 to be painted in UA colors:

https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/sta ... 9095436290

I wasn't really expecting it, but I wished there was some distinguishing between the Max9 and Max10 in the paint scheme. Some blocked out windows up front, or different paint around the behind wing exit would have been helpful.

Edit: Upon closer inspection, I've notice 2 obvious differences. At least on the Starboard side, on the Max 10, the titles start in front the break in windows, where on the Max9, the U is over that space. Also that behind wing door on the Max9 is a regular window, where on the Max10, it appears to be a port hole. Does that mean that there might be a galley or lav there?

Does anyone know how many of the Max10's UA will allocated to transcon? And whether the first ones that arrive will be for that, or whether those will be just randomly mixed in with regular domestic config deliveries?

cosyr · Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:09 pm

I don't know how recently updated these numbers are, but looking at Wikipedia, I noticed UA has now exceeded the mainline fleet size of AA and DL. I know that UA has a big chunk of 77A's grounded so don't contribute to ASM's, but historically UA has always had a higher ASM per fleet size vs AA/DL, because of their larger widebody fleet and longer routes flown by those widebodies. UA said pre pandemic that they would like to capture their "natural share" of the domestic market. Is UA poised to become the biggest airline in the world (by ASM) when the 77A's get back in the air?

FlyHossD · Sun Jan 30, 2022 4:08 pm

cosyr wrote:
intotheair wrote:
The first 737-10 to be painted in UA colors:

https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/sta ... 9095436290

I wasn't really expecting it, but I wished there was some distinguishing between the Max9 and Max10 in the paint scheme. Some blocked out windows up front, or different paint around the behind wing exit would have been helpful.

Edit: Upon closer inspection, I've notice 2 obvious differences. At least on the Starboard side, on the Max 10, the titles start in front the break in windows, where on the Max9, the U is over that space. Also that behind wing door on the Max9 is a regular window, where on the Max10, it appears to be a port hole. Does that mean that there might be a galley or lav there?

Does anyone know how many of the Max10's UA will allocated to transcon? And whether the first ones that arrive will be for that, or whether those will be just randomly mixed in with regular domestic config deliveries?

Look again. The door aft of the wing is outlined in this paint scheme. IIRC, it's not on the -900ERs or -9Max's.

As far as deployment of the -10 Max's, that's very subject to change. In other words, time will tell. I would expect to see some on transcontinental routes, but how will the range work out when westbound with a full load..?

calpsafltskeds · Sun Jan 30, 2022 4:47 pm

Both the Max9 and Max10 have 12 windows on the left side between overwing exits and secondary exit and 11 after the secondary exit. The real difference is 1.) secondary exit has outline painted, so it must be a real exit, 2.) there is more space before and after secondary exit, 3.) MOST Importantly, the secondary exit window size is very different, with the MAX10 having a porthole instead of a regular window.

Scarebus34 · Sun Jan 30, 2022 4:49 pm

cosyr wrote:
intotheair wrote:
The first 737-10 to be painted in UA colors:

https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/sta ... 9095436290

I wasn't really expecting it, but I wished there was some distinguishing between the Max9 and Max10 in the paint scheme. Some blocked out windows up front, or different paint around the behind wing exit would have been helpful.

Edit: Upon closer inspection, I've notice 2 obvious differences. At least on the Starboard side, on the Max 10, the titles start in front the break in windows, where on the Max9, the U is over that space. Also that behind wing door on the Max9 is a regular window, where on the Max10, it appears to be a port hole. Does that mean that there might be a galley or lav there?

Does anyone know how many of the Max10's UA will allocated to transcon? And whether the first ones that arrive will be for that, or whether those will be just randomly mixed in with regular domestic config deliveries?

No, I don't think it's indicative of a lav or galley. Just as it's not on a 321.

RyanairGuru · Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:19 pm

cosyr wrote:
intotheair wrote:
The first 737-10 to be painted in UA colors:

https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/sta ... 9095436290

I wasn't really expecting it, but I wished there was some distinguishing between the Max9 and Max10 in the paint scheme. Some blocked out windows up front, or different paint around the behind wing exit would have been helpful.

Edit: Upon closer inspection, I've notice 2 obvious differences. At least on the Starboard side, on the Max 10, the titles start in front the break in windows, where on the Max9, the U is over that space. Also that behind wing door on the Max9 is a regular window, where on the Max10, it appears to be a port hole. Does that mean that there might be a galley or lav there?

Does anyone know how many of the Max10's UA will allocated to transcon? And whether the first ones that arrive will be for that, or whether those will be just randomly mixed in with regular domestic config deliveries?

The 9 doesn’t have an operative door behind the wing, just a plug with a regular window. This is also why the door isn’t outlined. The 10 has an operative door, which has the porthole. The 737 is limited to 189 seats without the mid-aft door, but the 9 in United’s configuration only has 179 seats so doesn’t require it.

This distinction between plug and actual door has always been there on the 737-900ER. United has a plug, while Lion has a door due to their high density ULCC configuration.

boeingatchs · Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:30 pm

cosyr wrote:
intotheair wrote:
The first 737-10 to be painted in UA colors:

https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/sta ... 9095436290

I wasn't really expecting it, but I wished there was some distinguishing between the Max9 and Max10 in the paint scheme. Some blocked out windows up front, or different paint around the behind wing exit would have been helpful.

Edit: Upon closer inspection, I've notice 2 obvious differences. At least on the Starboard side, on the Max 10, the titles start in front the break in windows, where on the Max9, the U is over that space. Also that behind wing door on the Max9 is a regular window, where on the Max10, it appears to be a port hole. Does that mean that there might be a galley or lav there?

Does anyone know how many of the Max10's UA will allocated to transcon? And whether the first ones that arrive will be for that, or whether those will be just randomly mixed in with regular domestic config deliveries?

I believe at least the first 10 will have the transcon config.

intotheair · Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:08 pm

boeingatchs wrote:
I believe at least the first 10 will have the transcon config.

That's not what I've heard from my Boeing contact. The first -10s with lie flats aren't expected until 2024. I think the first -10 deliveries in 2023 will be a standard domestic configuration.

73X · Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:11 pm

I Believe the MAX 10 will have the same domestic configuration that the MAX 9 does save for a couple more rows of seats. Any PS config (LAX-JFK-EWR-SFO) will probably be flown by the 321neo with lie flat and PE.

jbs2886 · Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:37 pm

73X wrote:
I Believe the MAX 10 will have the same domestic configuration that the MAX 9 does save for a couple more rows of seats. Any PS config (LAX-JFK-EWR-SFO) will probably be flown by the 321neo with lie flat and PE.

Except UA has said MAX 10s will get lie flats…. God forbid a MAX have a special config and not the amazing A321neo

Pinto · Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:48 pm

jbs2886 wrote:
73X wrote:
I Believe the MAX 10 will have the same domestic configuration that the MAX 9 does save for a couple more rows of seats. Any PS config (LAX-JFK-EWR-SFO) will probably be flown by the 321neo with lie flat and PE.

Except UA has said MAX 10s will get lie flats…. God forbid a MAX have a special config and not the amazing A321neo

I think the 321s will be used for Tanscons. While the MAXs are good I think UA would find the 321neos better. With UA investing money for a Polaris seats for the XLRs it would just make sense to use those for the Transcon birds.

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