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norcarolinian wrote:
gsoflyer wrote:March:
IAD gone on United
gsoflyer wrote:We need Allegiant to expand, or Spirit or Frontier back
gsoflyer wrote:The thing about Spirit is that its a real airlines compared to Allegiant. Spirit's key is legitimately its connections, and its schedule offered garbage for connections. I wanted to go to Denver, on Spirit nope. Lime Peru to visit family, nope. New Orleans, nope. I legitimately tried and could never get Spirit to work. I flew Frontier often when they were here.
Allegiant is killing itself here. They may have a grip, but their schedule is terrible. Why fly to Orlando to arrive at 11pm when you can go to Concord and get there in the morning on the same day.
delta767 wrote:I thought IAD is just a temporary cut until the pilot shortage gets back to normal?
I wonder if Delta DTW 1x is just temporary?
Also, hoping to see some more AA mainline to DFW and CLT soon.
FiscAutTecGarte wrote:Do you folks at GSO see allot of flights by HondaJets?
delta767 wrote:Has Allegiant cut Orlando Sanford from the network? Im not seeing it loaded on the Allegiant website after April. That would mean no service to Orlando from Greensboro/High Point at all! Also hoping DL and AA increase ATL and CLT again. Both are 6x when in the past they have been 7-9x.
AUxyz wrote:Brett Synder at Cranky Flier shared that GSO has shrunk the 4th most in the US out of the top 100 markets in a post Thursday. It's down 30.2% in seat count comparing July of 2019 to this month.
https://crankyflier.com/2022/07/14/where-us-airports-stand-in-the-recovery/
Is there any hope for recovery long term? I see the shortage of regional pilots as a substantial impediment to restoring flight numbers, and further headwinds from the growth of RDU and CLT. A slightly longer drive can eliminate connections, and even if a connection is needed, the busier airports have substantially improved schedules, with more convenient departure and arrival times. From the eastern side of Greensboro, Raleigh becomes more and more attractive. Despite CLT being on the far side of Charlotte from the piedmont triad, travel from parts of Winston-Salem and other communities is only one hour more to CLT than GSO.
My fear is that a vicious spiral has begun. I can see a world where flights are reduced to perhaps CLT, ATL, and DCA, pushing almost all passengers to alternative airports.
gsoflyer wrote:Tell me one good reason any air carrier should increase service at all, or even start new service?
usflyer msp wrote:I'm really surprised at how poor GSO's air service is. My mom's best friend is from Greesnboro and is going back to vist next month and it was much easier just to fly to her to RDU and rent a car.
I'm really surprised that it is not connected to major hubs like BOS, JFK, MCO, TPA, IAH, FLL, IAD, DEN, YYZ, and MSP at all and only has 4x weekly to DTW. The Triad is not exceptionally poor or anything like that so it really doesn't make sense. Someone like MX, XP or SY could come in and offer a 2-3 flights a week tp BOS/EWR/BWI and FLL/MCO/MIA plus LAS and maybe DEN and make a major impact.
norcarolinian wrote:Silver Airways to MCO starts in June?
Lilj4425 wrote:I don’t see BNA bookable on their website. MCO though is bookable.
AVLAirlineFreq wrote:norcarolinian wrote:Silver Airways to MCO starts in June?
Interesting. They have apparently been able to compete against G4 in GSP, too.
Supposedly adding GSO-BNA, too, a route everyone has tried to make work at some point:
viewtopic.php?p=23782143#p23782143
gsoflyer wrote:AVLAirlineFreq wrote:norcarolinian wrote:Silver Airways to MCO starts in June?
Interesting. They have apparently been able to compete against G4 in GSP, too.
Supposedly adding GSO-BNA, too, a route everyone has tried to make work at some point:
viewtopic.php?p=23782143#p23782143
Allegiant has a good hold on the Tampa market at GSO. And I have to think GSP is about to get saturation with Avelo, Allegiant and Silver all hitting MCO and 2 of them with FLL
GSO is going to be about how well they can get the word out. GSO passengers have been way burned by Skybus, Indy Air, Eastwind, Co Lite, Shuttle America, etc.
FiscAutTecGarte wrote:Do you folks at GSO see allot of flights by HondaJets?