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Cardude2 wrote:This is intriguing. Do you happen to have the article in English?
Chengdu, 18 January 2022 – Airbus has signed a Memorandum Of Understanding (MOU) with the city of Chengdu and Tarmac Aerosave
for the development of the first sustainable aircraft “lifecycle” service centre in China. This agreement will cover a range of activities from aircraft
parking and storage, to maintenance, upgrades, conversions, dismantling and recycling services for various aircraft types.
FiscAutTecGarte wrote:that will make their reverse engineering and ip stealing efforts much easier...
WayexTDI wrote:FiscAutTecGarte wrote:that will make their reverse engineering and ip stealing efforts much easier...
You really think the Chinese don't already have access to all the Airbus planes they want to reverse-engineer?
If anything, this facility will be (partially) controlled by Airbus and Airbus people, making IP theft harder than if they were not present at all.
WayexTDI wrote:FiscAutTecGarte wrote:that will make their reverse engineering and ip stealing efforts much easier...
You really think the Chinese don't already have access to all the Airbus planes they want to reverse-engineer?
If anything, this facility will be (partially) controlled by Airbus and Airbus people, making IP theft harder than if they were not present at all.
Revelation wrote:WayexTDI wrote:FiscAutTecGarte wrote:that will make their reverse engineering and ip stealing efforts much easier...
You really think the Chinese don't already have access to all the Airbus planes they want to reverse-engineer?
If anything, this facility will be (partially) controlled by Airbus and Airbus people, making IP theft harder than if they were not present at all.
I don't think they've had a legitimate excuse to totally disassemble them till now. There's no way to adequately police such a chop shop, IMO. And of course if you feel you need to police things, you're admitting it's a genuine concern.
FiscAutTecGarte wrote:that will make their reverse engineering and ip stealing efforts much easier...
migair54 wrote:Interesting choice for the airport, usually this kind of services are in airports relatively quiet and with space to expand like Victorville, Teruel... no in major international gateways.
migair54 wrote:FiscAutTecGarte wrote:that will make their reverse engineering and ip stealing efforts much easier...
That was done years ago, now is just a matter of business, huge fleets around (China, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam) and no such facility, so it is a perfect set up for the task.
Revelation wrote:I don't think they've had a legitimate excuse to totally disassemble them till now.
chonetsao wrote:Yes, just look at C919, and then tell me it does not look like A320.
chonetsao wrote:Yet Airbus stayed quiet on IP theft and not willing to point fingers at the thief yet pouring more money into the country. Makes you wonder.
scbriml wrote:Revelation wrote:I don't think they've had a legitimate excuse to totally disassemble them till now.
If they really wanted to completely disassemble an Airbus (or Boeing for that matter), why would they need an excuse? Just fly it to a military base and put it in a hangar. They've had Boeings since the 1970s and it doesn't seem to have helped them build airliners.
chonetsao wrote:migair54 wrote:Interesting choice for the airport, usually this kind of services are in airports relatively quiet and with space to expand like Victorville, Teruel... no in major international gateways.
Chengdu has opened a second major airport outside the city limit called Tianfu. Tianfu is taking over what Shuangliu was. Now Shuangliu is restricted to important domestic business and regional business route. So the inflow to Shuangliu is relatively very small now.migair54 wrote:FiscAutTecGarte wrote:that will make their reverse engineering and ip stealing efforts much easier...
That was done years ago, now is just a matter of business, huge fleets around (China, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam) and no such facility, so it is a perfect set up for the task.
Yes, just look at C919, and then tell me it does not look like A320. The IP theft was done already. Airbus is willing to take offense with its customer over a complaint. Yet Airbus stayed quiet on IP theft and not willing to point fingers at the thief yet pouring more money into the country. Makes you wonder.
chonetsao wrote:Yes, just look at C919, and then tell me it does not look like A320. The IP theft was done already. Airbus is willing to take offense with its customer over a complaint. Yet Airbus stayed quiet on IP theft and not willing to point fingers at the thief yet pouring more money into the country. Makes you wonder.
chonetsao wrote:migair54 wrote:Interesting choice for the airport, usually this kind of services are in airports relatively quiet and with space to expand like Victorville, Teruel... no in major international gateways.
Chengdu has opened a second major airport outside the city limit called Tianfu. Tianfu is taking over what Shuangliu was. Now Shuangliu is restricted to important domestic business and regional business route. So the inflow to Shuangliu is relatively very small now.migair54 wrote:FiscAutTecGarte wrote:that will make their reverse engineering and ip stealing efforts much easier...
That was done years ago, now is just a matter of business, huge fleets around (China, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam) and no such facility, so it is a perfect set up for the task.
Yes, just look at C919, and then tell me it does not look like A320. The IP theft was done already. Airbus is willing to take offense with its customer over a complaint. Yet Airbus stayed quiet on IP theft and not willing to point fingers at the thief yet pouring more money into the country. Makes you wonder.
32andBelow wrote:What are you guys talking about IP theft. Chinese airlines own airbuses. They can just take them apart in their hangar if they want. They’d have the maintenance manuals and performance data too believe it or not. Even for the engines