NTLDaz wrote:RyanairGuru wrote:RyanairGuru wrote:

BA have 56J, 56W and 219 Y on the A35K.

They have 11 rows of J between doors 1 and 2. Assuming 2 rows of First with larger seats, room for a bulkhead, and a larger galley at door 2, let’s deduct four rows of J from that. So 8F, 28J between doors 1 and 2.

To compensate, let’s put four extra rows of J behind door 2 (BA currently have three rows). Let’s assume those 4 rows use 6 of the 7 rows of W that BA have there, and then move W back to the 6 rows of Y seats that BA have between doors 2 and 3. That would roughly give 28J and 48W between doors 2 and 3.

Assuming the same Economy configuration between doors 3 and 4, that would leave 160 Y.

All up that’s 8F, 56J, 48W, 160 Y for a total of 272.

Leaving aside F, out of 264 seats that is 21% J, 18% W, 60% Y. For comparison, the 789 is 21% J, 12% W, 72% Y. This leaves the J cabin proportionately the same size, but a higher portion of W seats versus Y. 12% W would mean four rows of W, which might allow for 2 rows of Y before door 3. However I actually wouldn’t be surprised if they go for the larger W cabin given that Qantas are openly targeting high yield traffic with these routes.

Too late to edit, but I realised my percentages were a bit out. The 789 is 18% J, 12% W, 70% Y.

I still wouldn’t be surprised if they kept the larger J and W cabins. Otherwise you could remove one row of J and two rows of W, and squeeze four rows of Y before door 3. This would give 52J (18%), 42W (14%), 196Y (68%). With 8F that would give 298 total seats.

Is that assuming a 32" pitch in Y ?

Hmm, good point. BA is 31”. I guess that means removing a row of Y between door 3 and 4, so 151 seats.

For the record, I’d already assumed a toilet where BA have 59 B,C and a full size galley on the rear bulkhead as I know BA have been criticised for having galleys that are too small, which is also why I put a larger galley at door 2.

Since I was revisiting this anyway, I reconsidered Premium Economy and think Qantas would have 7 abreast W. BA have gone for a fairly high density 8 abreast with 18.5” width seats, which is only about one thumb-width wider than Economy on their 9 abreast 777s. Qantas is 20.5” in Premium Economy on the 787. 7 abreast on the A350 would be 21”. For context, Business Class on the 737s is 22”. This seems to be much more appropriate for the proposed mission of these aircraft.

If we go back to my original suggestion of 7 rows of Business and 6 rows of Premium between doors 2 and 3, that would be 56J, 42W at 7 abreast, and 151Y at 32”. Add 8F, and you get 257 seats. Excluding F and based on 249

seats, that’s 22% J, 17% W, 60% Y.

With one fewer row of J and one fewer row of W, and two rows of Y ahead of door 2, you would have 52J, 35W, 169Y, which is 264 seats. 21% J, 14% W, 68% Y.

Link to the seat map for some context:

https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Briti ... 0-1000.php