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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:10 am

Devilfish wrote:
Pardon the sidetrack but since we're already talking of spending massive amounts to build a new version of MRIYA, why not invest that money instead into converting to pure freighters the numerous A380s that may soon spend the rest of their existence in the boneyard :?: Sure, the obstacles are well-known, deemed insurmountable, and the WHALE still wouldn't be able to carry the same outsize cargo as the An-225 afterwards.

What would you accomplish by doing that when the A380 can't do what the AN-225 can. More to the point, why would an aircraft manufacturer out of Ukraine spend money to modify a plane that isn't even theirs.
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:47 am

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Russia's invasion was brewing for some time. Why didn't they get it out of Dodge as the invasion became imminent?

This war started in February 2014, and was flashing up and down for more than eight years. Should all businesses in Ukraine have relocated elsewhere, just because the planet is too content with little Adolf in Kremlin, as long as he ships oil and gas, and spends the cash on yachts and villas and soccer clubs, in all the relevant countries?
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:52 am

Phosphorus wrote:
smokeybandit wrote:
Russia's invasion was brewing for some time. Why didn't they get it out of Dodge as the invasion became imminent?

This war started in February 2014, and was flashing up and down for more than eight years. Should all businesses in Ukraine have relocated elsewhere, just because the planet is too content with little Adolf in Kremlin, as long as he ships oil and gas, and spends the cash on yachts and villas and soccer clubs, in all the relevant countries?


It could be something as simple as the crews didn't want to leave their families. Given the An-225 had 6 flight crew plus load masters, that's a lot of people affected.

I see Dymtro Antonov is still posting videos, so maybe it'll come out one day.
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:01 pm

afterburner33 wrote:
Phosphorus wrote:
smokeybandit wrote:
Russia's invasion was brewing for some time. Why didn't they get it out of Dodge as the invasion became imminent?

This war started in February 2014, and was flashing up and down for more than eight years. Should all businesses in Ukraine have relocated elsewhere, just because the planet is too content with little Adolf in Kremlin, as long as he ships oil and gas, and spends the cash on yachts and villas and soccer clubs, in all the relevant countries?


It could be something as simple as the crews didn't want to leave their families. Given the An-225 had 6 flight crew plus load masters, that's a lot of people affected.

I see Dymtro Antonov is still posting videos, so maybe it'll come out one day.


Well, again, could be anything.
I'm not even talking about human suffering of my people.
An-225 is (was) more valuable to aviation history, than all russia combined. #moscoviadelendaest
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:08 pm

Video from the Hostomel airport ground, seems like AN-225 burned completely to ground :

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1499352901688385547
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:54 pm

Phosphorus wrote:
Well, again, could be anything.
I'm not even talking about human suffering of my people.
An-225 is (was) more valuable to aviation history, than all russia combined. #moscoviadelendaest


Well, it certainly looks like the nose of the An-225 laying on the ground in the first couple of seconds of the clip. You can clearly see the blue and yellow of it.
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:06 pm

If one looks for some replacemen for our most loved AN-225t:

The Airbus Beluga Fleet coud offer the Base of some future replacement (partly at least). Currently it it has limited Lift.
If we take the new Belugas as a base and give them some better Wings and more powerful engines, in short everything to enhance the lift capacity and duration- could this be partly an appropriate replecement?
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:45 pm

Flyglobal wrote:
If one looks for some replacemen for our most loved AN-225t:

The Airbus Beluga Fleet coud offer the Base of some future replacement (partly at least). Currently it it has limited Lift.
If we take the new Belugas as a base and give them some better Wings and more powerful engines, in short everything to enhance the lift capacity and duration- could this be partly an appropriate replecement?


When you're making that many changes, you're probably better of starting from scratch.

The Belugas are designed to handle large cargo, not necessarily heavy cargo. That's the key difference between then and aircraft such as the Antonov 124 & 225.
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:13 pm

Metchalus wrote:
Flyglobal wrote:
If one looks for some replacemen for our most loved AN-225t:

The Airbus Beluga Fleet coud offer the Base of some future replacement (partly at least). Currently it it has limited Lift.
If we take the new Belugas as a base and give them some better Wings and more powerful engines, in short everything to enhance the lift capacity and duration- could this be partly an appropriate replecement?


When you're making that many changes, you're probably better of starting from scratch.

The Belugas are designed to handle large cargo, not necessarily heavy cargo. That's the key difference between then and aircraft such as the Antonov 124 & 225.

To highlight that, the An-225 had a max payload (not MTOW, actual payload) of just over 250t. That is greater than the MTOW of the Beluga XL and about equal to the latest A330neos MTOW. The An-225 could have flown a fully weighed down A330 if you could fit it in the plane.

As you mention it is impossible to design the Beluga XL to have capabilities anywhere close to the An-124/An-225. Nothing about it was engineered and designed to support weights approaching those planes (it is ultimately just a A330). You’d have to create an entirely new aircraft.
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:14 pm

Interesting how there were 2 ADB AN-124's still in operation today flying. Its great to know they are still in business and operational..
Do we know the fate of the AN-22??
 
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Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:26 pm

Polot wrote:
To highlight that, the An-225 had a max payload (not MTOW, actual payload) of just over 250t. That is greater than the MTOW of the Beluga XL and about equal to the latest A330neos MTOW. The An-225 could have flown a fully weighed down A330 if you could fit it in the plane.


Or even more astonishing a complete empty 747-8 plus still 30 tonnes left or almost an entire A380 (just 20t heavier than max payload).
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:29 pm

or even better, at the end of the decade, the entire KE 748 fleet will be retired so you could convert those to freighters.
 
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Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:24 pm

crownvic wrote:
Interesting how there were 2 ADB AN-124's still in operation today flying. Its great to know they are still in business and operational...


All 5 active ADB An-124s flying in Europe today...
ADS-B Exchange for: UR-82007, UR-82008, UR-82027, UR-82029, UR-82072

crownvic wrote:
Do we know the fate of the AN-22??


For Antonov Airlines/ADB An-22 UR-09307...


Flight Safety Foundation’s Aviation Safety Network (ASN) says:

ASN Wikibase Occurrence # 276058
Narrative:
There is a strong possibility that the aircraft was destroyed or badly damaged during heavy fighting at Kyiv-Gostomel Airport.


However, this Airliners.net forum post: Ode to Mriya, AN-225 confirmed destroyed has a picture link of it taken after the AN-225 was hit (see below):

Pantonov22 wrote:
vlaakko wrote:
How about AN-22, where is she right now?

She's not flying anymore, however it appears she is still in one piece (bottom of the overview photo):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMwKcwtWUAA ... name=large
 
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Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:02 pm

RE: Airliners.net forum post: Ode to Mriya, AN-225 confirmed destroyed
Pantonov22 wrote:
vlaakko wrote:
How about AN-22, where is she right now?

She's not flying anymore, however it appears she is still in one piece (bottom of the overview photo):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMwKcwtWUAA ... name=large



Here are before/after satellite images of GML on planet.com with the An-22 at the bottom ANTONOV AN-225 MYRIA - Hostomel Air Base, Ukraine - Feb 28, 2022 - Source: SkySat (move the slider control back and forth to see before and after images)

Also, in the above planet.com link, three planes to the upper left of the An-22 you can see before/after images of the destroyed Antonov Airlines/ADB An-74T UR-74010 which is now listed as Written Off on Flight Safety Foundation’s Aviation Safety Network (ASN):



 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:56 pm

Something just occurred to me, even if several AN-124 freighters from Antonov Airlines managed to escape Ukraine, what if all the infrastructure they need to service these complex aircraft is destroyed and can't be rebuilt ? What then ? They certainty won't be able to go to Russia for any kind of maintenance. What then ? The reason only Ukrainian and Russian companies operated these heavy airlifters is because they have very demanding maintenance needs.
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:40 pm

I'm sure Antonov has some kind of a maintenance base at LEJ. They usually have several aircraft based there. I'm not sure how extensive the maintenance facilities they have there are, but I have seen photos of the An-225 in one of the hangers.
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:19 am

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackDetsch/s ... 17/photo/1

More heavy fighting reported at Antonov Airport.
 
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It seems, Antonov factory in Kiev is on fire.

Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:22 am

Not much known, only a video on Twitter. Seems the factory is burning.
https://twitter.com/aldin_ww/status/1503264499977052160?cxt=HHwWgICzyaPG1dwpAAAA
 
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Re: It seems, Antonov factory in Kiev is on fire.

Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:24 am

This could end any hopes that the second frame of the 225 could be build (which was unlikely anyway). Hope everyone is okay there. Chances are that no one was there anymore anyway ...
 
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Re: It seems, Antonov factory in Kiev is on fire.

Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:05 pm

The sad reality is that Antonov will likely not recover from this once the war ends. And if all the infrastructure and maintenance records needed for repairing and servicing the An-124's are destroyed, Antonov Airlines is also likely done as well. The only other location outside of Ukraine where heavy maintenance could be undertaken would be Russia, and that clearly is off limits.
 
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Re: It seems, Antonov factory in Kiev is on fire.

Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:14 pm

Rumours are circulating the rest of the Antonov 225 along with the rest of the entire hanger has been completely destroyed
 
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Re: It seems, Antonov factory in Kiev is on fire.

Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:33 pm

alberchico wrote:
The sad reality is that Antonov will likely not recover from this once the war ends. And if all the infrastructure and maintenance records needed for repairing and servicing the An-124's are destroyed, Antonov Airlines is also likely done as well. The only other location outside of Ukraine where heavy maintenance could be undertaken would be Russia, and that clearly is off limits.

Yikes, no more An-124s? What will fly the 777 engines around?
 
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Re: It seems, Antonov factory in Kiev is on fire.

Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:02 pm

Does anyone know if there are currently any ADB A124’s in the US right now?
 
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Re: It seems, Antonov factory in Kiev is on fire.

Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:10 pm

DenverTed wrote:
Yikes, no more An-124s? What will fly the 777 engines around?


The 777F can load all but the GE90-11x in an assembled state. The -11x can also be loaded, but the fan has to removed and loaded separately. Takes a bit of time, but really not that big of a deal when you have no other options.
 
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Re: It seems, Antonov factory in Kiev is on fire.

Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:51 pm

B777LRF wrote:
DenverTed wrote:
Yikes, no more An-124s? What will fly the 777 engines around?


The 777F can load all but the GE90-11x in an assembled state. The -11x can also be loaded, but the fan has to removed and loaded separately. Takes a bit of time, but really not that big of a deal when you have no other options.


Could they theoretically ferry it on the 5th pod of the 747?
 
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Re: It seems, Antonov factory in Kiev is on fire.

Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:20 pm

889091 wrote:
B777LRF wrote:
DenverTed wrote:
Yikes, no more An-124s? What will fly the 777 engines around?


The 777F can load all but the GE90-11x in an assembled state. The -11x can also be loaded, but the fan has to removed and loaded separately. Takes a bit of time, but really not that big of a deal when you have no other options.


Could they theoretically ferry it on the 5th pod of the 747?

Ask Airbus. Just remind, Airbus has recently founded the "Airbus Beluga Transport", as competitor to Antonov transport.
Pretty sure, Airbus would have prefered another outcome, as Ukraine government and Antonov were interested in cooperation with Airbus industries and first negotiations seems to have planned. And now.....
 
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Re: It seems, Antonov factory in Kiev is on fire.

Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:01 pm

Michiganatc wrote:
Does anyone know if there are currently any ADB A124’s in the US right now?


Assuming that the phrasing "in the US" was just a slip of your tongue: according to post #113 in this discussion thread by #se210 five (5) examples are outside the war theatre.
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:44 pm

Video on Twitter claims the Antonov Factory is on fire.

https://mobile.twitter.com/aviationbrk/ ... 6771870721

Anyone know if this is actually the factory? Many people confuse the second hanagar at Hostomel/Gostomel/Antonov Airport as being the factory, when in reality the factory and the second AN-225 are located at Sviatoshyn Airfield.
 
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Re: It seems, Antonov factory in Kiev is on fire.

Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:13 am

889091 wrote:
B777LRF wrote:
DenverTed wrote:
Yikes, no more An-124s? What will fly the 777 engines around?


The 777F can load all but the GE90-11x in an assembled state. The -11x can also be loaded, but the fan has to removed and loaded separately. Takes a bit of time, but really not that big of a deal when you have no other options.


Could they theoretically ferry it on the 5th pod of the 747?


No.
 
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Antonov Airlines.....how about their future?

Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:14 pm

Hi! With all the sad things going on in Ukraine and then the bombings of so many Antonov airlines aircraft I wonder, what do you guys expect for this airline in the future?

Thanks and God bless! And to those living in Ukraine, be safe and best of luck to you!
 
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Re: Antonov Airlines.....how about their future?

Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:50 pm

Buy airbus / boeing freight and restart cargo business
Btw if Russian and Ukraine make peace agreement
Ukraine would likely be the few airline could pass though or serve Russia and Belarus
It gains superior competitive advantage than the other European airlines in terms of time, fuel and market coverage

At the same time, both Antonov airport and Boryspil airport is under treat or occupied by enemies and Zhuliany airport is too close to city centre, Ukraine government might build a new airport in the south of Kyiv and Antonov would move the HQ to there
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:52 pm

They still have several An-124s outside Ukraine, some of which have been flying since the war started. If they can maintain operations and continue to exist after the war is over, if the bans on Russian airlines such as Volga-Dnepr continue, ADB will have most of the world's supply of commercially available outsized heavy lifters. You'd like to think that they could make the most of that.

However a lot of things have to fall into place first, least of which is the end of the war.
 
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Sat Apr 02, 2022 3:34 pm

A couple of Youtube/Twitter links from last 2 days showing Antonov Airlines aircraft inside a hanger at GML after Ukranian forces took back control of Hostomel airport ...

  • An-124 UR-82009 via this YouTube video and Twitter Video link with the front loading nose just cracked open. This Twitter link shows UR-82009 with the registration shown more clearly in the top 2 photos.

  • An-28 UR-NTE can be seen be seen in the Youtube/Twitter Video link above just behind the nose of UR-82009. The same Twitter link shows the UR-NTE registration clearly in the bottom right photo.


  • An-148 UR-NTA (Prototype CN 01-01) ** might ** be seen in the above Youtube/Twitter Video links to the right of UR-82009 (but cannot be 100% sure). It seems to be parked in the same position as a picture taken back in 2019 with a Maximus Air Cargo An-124 UR-ZYD at GML and a poster of flags above it which can also be seen in the Youtube/Twitter Video links. Also note the gap after the 5th window on the An-148 from the two photos shown below which seems to be unique for this particular aircraft. But again, not 100% sure this is UR-NTA in the Youtube/Twitter Video links.

 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Sat Apr 02, 2022 3:38 pm

an aerial photo was recently pulished with about 15 aircraft all tucked up to each other on a paddock away from hangars. AN 124 that has been withdrawn for months, several other propeller aircraft, a 737 and the AN-22 all appear to be unharmed or intact at least!
 
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Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:16 pm

crownvic wrote:
an aerial photo was recently pulished with about 15 aircraft all tucked up to each other on a paddock away from hangars. AN 124 that has been withdrawn for months, several other propeller aircraft, a 737 and the AN-22 all appear to be unharmed or intact at least!


Here is a YouTube video posted yesterday (April 1st) showing these aircraft: Drone footage shows what remains of Gostomel airport and the An-225
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Sat Apr 02, 2022 6:09 pm

here is a complete tour of all the damage by Dmytro Antonov
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuQGvi_R8zg
 
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Sat Apr 02, 2022 11:35 pm

Does anyone know where the incomplete frame is?

And China bough the program from Antonov.
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Sun Apr 03, 2022 12:05 am

crownvic wrote:
here is a complete tour of all the damage by Dmytro Antonov
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuQGvi_R8zg


Watching Dmytro's video is heartbreaking and maddening. I foolishly thought Tsar Putin wanted Antonov saved and said so at the start of this thread... The AN-225, it would seem was specifically targeted for destruction because it was such a massive global symbol of "Ukrainian National Achievement". This, in my view qualifies as a WAR CRIME!! Tsar Putin is hated around the world on a level Saddam Hussein only dreamed of!! Click on 'CC' for a translation to English.
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Sun Apr 03, 2022 12:49 am

crownvic wrote:
here is a complete tour of all the damage by Dmytro Antonov https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuQGvi_R8zg


crownvic... Thanks for sharing. Incredible video from Dmytro Antonov and team showing the actual conditions on the ground at GML. This video shows a lot more detail on the damage to various aircraft especially from small arms fire (e.g. multiple bullet holes in the aircraft) which we would not see on drone/satellite images. Here is a synopsis of some of the identified aircraft seen in the video:

07:30 - RF-91285 Mi8AMTSh. This reddit post shows before/after photos.
07:44 - An-72 UR-74010 (destroyed). Dmytro mentions in the video flying this aircraft on Feb 18th from Leipzeg (to GML) which was the last flight of this aircraft.
08:39 - An-132D UR-EXK
09:36 - B737-5Y0(WL) - TN-AKF with name: "Lima"
09:37 - An-22 UR-09307
13:15 - An-124 UR-82009
14:00 - An-148 (most likely UR-NTA)
15:26 - An-28 UR-NTE
17:11 - An-225 UR-82060
17:39 - Cessna 172RG Cutlass RG - State Flight Academy - UR-LKS
21:29 - Cessna 152 being squashed by the wing of the An-225! No full registration is shown but it appears to have the prefix HA- which is Hungary. The only C152 matching this paint scheme **exactly ** in the Hungarian Civil Aircraft Registry is HA-WAS whose picture you can see on Airliners.net main competitor's website: j**p*****.com (Airliners.net does not allow posting links to competitor websites).
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:44 am

crownvic wrote:
here is a complete tour of all the damage by Dmytro Antonov
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuQGvi_R8zg


The section where they go into the hanger to see what is left of Miyra brought me to tears and made me want to vomit...
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:42 am

md11sdf wrote:
crownvic wrote:
here is a complete tour of all the damage by Dmytro Antonov
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuQGvi_R8zg


The section where they go into the hanger to see what is left of Miyra brought me to tears and made me want to vomit...


Yes very upsetting, but I was also surprised at how much appeared to be salvageable as evidenced in the quick appraisal put forward by Dmytro Antonov. You'd certainly be looking at a completely fresh forward fuselage/cockpit construction but from the wingbox area to tail it might be saveable if it can be married up to a new front end. Even if a new 225 never flies, a completed piece as an exhibit could become some mighty symbolism coming out of Ukraine, post war.

One thing I didn't get was the fact all six engines appeared to be mounted, when previous accounts had suggested one or more had been removed for maintenance, hence the reason it couldn't evacuate to safety.
 
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Re: It seems, Antonov factory in Kiev is on fire.

Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:56 am

B777LRF wrote:
DenverTed wrote:
Yikes, no more An-124s? What will fly the 777 engines around?


The 777F can load all but the GE90-11x in an assembled state. The -11x can also be loaded, but the fan has to removed and loaded separately. Takes a bit of time, but really not that big of a deal when you have no other options.

GE90’s generally fly without the fan case, they can split too with the propulsive off making the GE90 easier to ship then the Trent and Pratt engines. Trent and Pratt’s can be put in a roll over stand and get converted to “air mode” to fit on 747’s. It takes hours to put the stands into “air mode” but it isn’t that difficult. The Trent’s and Pratt’s fit into the side door of the 747 with mere inches to spare when in air mode, it’s pretty neat to watch actually.
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Sun Apr 03, 2022 12:27 pm

Seeing that Cessna 'shoulder' the wing of the fallen Mriya is truly devestating.

For those that better understand the manufacturing and operational needs of such an operation - how extensive could/should repairs of facilities work to potentially return them to former services? I could see, even for the purposes of pride - restoration (of such an iconic brand) would also serve well the Ukraninan people (as a part of cultural history). That said, would completely demolishing and rebuliding, be the only true option to maintain and sustain current and future operations?

I ask, as, how often are aircraft 'patched' after bullet holes (seemingly the least damaged of the aircraft, the AN124 in the hanger that was under maintanence), and/or a few aircraft that seemingly have slight shrapnel damage. Would these aircraft ever be flight worthy, again? As is the entire stored fleet at Dmytro Antonov looks destroyed (and sadly, so did some of their vintage aircraft - cultural pieces of Ukranian History). The infrastructure also looks structurally unsound, though - some of the internals do look stable - and, these are some rather large buildings (having housed large aircraft) and so I wonder how difficult/expensive renovating versus demolition and rebuilding will be - and what operational needs would dictate.

Interestingly, should Ukraine focus on drone manufacturing? Could that be scaled up, with Dmytro Antonov and investment?

Does anyone have an example of a manufacturer surviving such destruction of their production facilities and/or capabilities? In a conventional sense, the few that I can imagine would have been Japanese productions (and nothing was as large) and the return of European infrastructure (through Marshall Plan and to a lesser effect via the Soviets and Warsaw Pact Funding). So either way, it will take billions (and perhaps we will see either Eastern {Chinese, or potentially Indian backers}, or Western {from the U.S. and/or Europe}) assisting with funding if/when Ukraine may be willing to rebuild as it was a fundamentally dynamic part of their international profile. Here's to hoping for peace, and restoration - soon, and well. It will never be enough, so many lives have been needlessly destroyed - here's to hoping for a future where Antonov thrives, as does Ukraine.
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Sun Apr 03, 2022 2:56 pm

The video from Dmytro Antonov showed the Hostomel (GML) facility, which was used as 'home base' for Antonov Airlines and for performing heavy Maintenace on their aircraft. The destroyed offices shown were used only by the airline. Two separate facilities, rather like Boeing in Seattle & Renton. What I want to see is the fate of the actual Antonov Aircraft Plant, which is at Sviatoshyn Airfield, off Akedemika Tupolevieva Street in Kiev. There are lots of great looks using Google Maps "street view" showing what the place used to look like prior to Putin's War. Also, did the Russians leave the aircraft at the Oleg Antonov Museum intact?
 
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Re: Antonov Design Bureau News and Discussion Thread

Thu May 19, 2022 2:18 pm

Antonov Airlines moving it's base to Leipzig Halle airport.

https://simpleflying.com/antonov-airlin ... g-germany/

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