ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Moderators: richierich, ua900, PanAm_DC10, hOMSaR

Post Reply
 
User avatar
LAXintl
Topic Author
Posts: 27710
Joined: Wed May 24, 2000 12:12 pm

ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:34 am

ANA Holdings is relaunching its AirJapan subsidiary as a value carrier focused on "medium-haul" international route using a fleet of 787-8 aircraft.

Air Japan operated a fleet of 767-300ERs and 787s on behalf of ANA to host of markets pre-pandemic such as China, Taiwan, Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam, and Hawaii.

The rebranded airline is scheduled to take flight second half of FY23 with routes TBA.

Investor release:
https://www.anahd.co.jp/group/en/pr/pdf/20220308.pdf

Image
Image

https://www.anahd.co.jp/group/en/pr/202 ... 08-001.png

I wonder if some of the previous markets will simply transition to AirJapan branding, or if ANA will look for entirely new markets for AirJapan?
My understanding was Air Japan with its own AOC and crews allowed ANA to have a lower cost vehicle including with some foreign crews to serve markets that often had higher leisure component for the group.
Last edited by LAXintl on Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:03 am, edited 2 times in total.
Top
 
User avatar
hongkongflyer
Posts: 1103
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:23 am

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:46 am

ANA’s zipair
Top
 
User avatar
mercure1
Posts: 6192
Joined: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:13 am

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:53 am

Wonder what the overlap will be with Peach that is getting A321LRs and can easily cover the Asian "medium" haul markets also?

Sometimes its so confusing what airlines do with all their brands :scratchchin:
Top
 
usflyer msp
Posts: 5383
Joined: Tue May 23, 2000 11:50 am

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:19 am

hongkongflyer wrote:
ANA’s zipair


That would be my guess as well - basically routes to China/HK/Taiwan, Thailand, Philippines and Hawaii .
Top
 
Tokyo777
Posts: 66
Joined: Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:29 am

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:22 am

Branding looks like Air Premia...
Top
 
Newark727
Posts: 3630
Joined: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:42 pm

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:28 am

mercure1 wrote:
Wonder what the overlap will be with Peach that is getting A321LRs and can easily cover the Asian "medium" haul markets also?

Sometimes its so confusing what airlines do with all their brands :scratchchin:


That's the thing, they previously didn't do anything with the Air Japan brand, did they? Planes still flew NH routes in NH paint, just with little "Operated by Air Japan" titles, as I understand it.
Top
 
User avatar
SCFlyer
Posts: 2080
Joined: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:14 pm

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:38 am

I suspect the Queensland beach markets (CNS/OOL) may have a slim chance of featuring on the route map. Maybe with assistance of the Tourism bodies on both the Japanese markets (KIX, TYO or whichever the originating market may be) and the Queensland market.
Top
 
User avatar
UPlog
Posts: 1295
Joined: Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:45 am

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:49 am

Newark727 wrote:
That's the thing, they previously didn't do anything with the Air Japan brand, did they? Planes still flew NH routes in NH paint, just with little "Operated by Air Japan" titles, as I understand it.


They do have a public face including Air Japan branding at airports which I’ve seen plus a website.

https://www.air-japan.co.jp/eng/
Top
 
User avatar
NearMiss
Posts: 283
Joined: Sun May 22, 2016 5:10 pm

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:41 am

Japan's Air Premia
Top
 
B787register
Posts: 272
Joined: Thu May 15, 2014 8:39 am

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:01 am

wonder which 787's they will get?
Top
 
User avatar
c933103
Posts: 7256
Joined: Wed May 18, 2016 7:23 pm

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:37 am

hongkongflyer wrote:
ANA’s zipair

My understanding from ANA's communication in past few years is that, such airlines' main focus would be destinations 4-8 hours away from Japan, unlike ZIPAIR's main focus of intercontential flights (Although nowadays I can't see them flying to Europe according to their hope)
Top
 
User avatar
c933103
Posts: 7256
Joined: Wed May 18, 2016 7:23 pm

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:38 am

NearMiss wrote:
Japan's Air Premia

Air Premia aims to offer more comfortable seats with debundled fare, which I am cerain ANA isn't attempting this
Top
 
NZ321
Posts: 2152
Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:00 pm

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:52 am

I wouldn't be surprised if this is a bigger move than Zip (equivalent). We could see quite a few SE Asian markets that have been operated by Air Japan for years (using ANA branded 787 aircraft) formally shifted over to the new airline. In other words, not just "beach" markets. This will be something to watch closely.
Top
 
melpax
Posts: 2458
Joined: Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:13 am

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:51 pm

NZ321 wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if this is a bigger move than Zip (equivalent). We could see quite a few SE Asian markets that have been operated by Air Japan for years (using ANA branded 787 aircraft) formally shifted over to the new airline. In other words, not just "beach" markets. This will be something to watch closely.


Might mean that the SYD service might move to Air Japan, or ANA could do a Jetstar, and leave SYD with ANA mainline, and have Air Japan service OOL & possibly MEL.
Top
 
User avatar
frigatebird
Posts: 2270
Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:02 pm

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:31 pm

And such a surprisingly original livery! :duck:
Top
 
User avatar
LAXintl
Topic Author
Posts: 27710
Joined: Wed May 24, 2000 12:12 pm

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:07 pm

A closer look at the livery

Image

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNTOQQRVEAE ... =4096x4096
Top
 
LTEN11
Posts: 842
Joined: Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:09 am

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:22 am

frigatebird wrote:
And such a surprisingly original livery! :duck:


At least it's different to ANA, so in my books, that's a plus.
Top
 
YYZORD
Posts: 767
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:26 pm

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:35 am

Will Air Japan replace current ANA routes in Southeast Asia or Asia? I know North America and Europe will still have NH flights.
Top
 
moa999
Posts: 1348
Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:37 am

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:15 am

It's a nice take on ANAs stripe.

What do you call the colours. A flat navy blue, and a pink brown?
Top
 
User avatar
LAXintl
Topic Author
Posts: 27710
Joined: Wed May 24, 2000 12:12 pm

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:42 pm

B787register wrote:
wonder which 787's they will get?


They already have dozens of 787s on their AOC.
Top
 
PANAMsterdam
Posts: 470
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:45 am

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:49 pm

Royal Jordanian will be very happy with the free publicity they get with the new aiRJapan logo.
Top
 
User avatar
Devilfish
Posts: 7989
Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:52 am

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:35 am

usflyer msp wrote:
That would be my guess as well - basically routes to China/HK/Taiwan, Thailand, Philippines and Hawaii .

I wonder if Air Japan would now be a common sight at CEB, CRK and DVO with NH remaining in MNL? :scratchchin:


PANAMsterdam wrote:
Royal Jordanian will be very happy with the free publicity they get with the new aiRJapan logo.

Reinforces the airline's LCC nature and retrieves the 783's unfulfilled hope by making the 788 the preeminent 'Regional Jet'. :wink2:
Top
 
User avatar
mercure1
Posts: 6192
Joined: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:13 am

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:04 am

Devilfish wrote:
I wonder if Air Japan would now be a common sight at CEB, CRK and DVO with NH remaining in MNL? :scratchchin:


They could easily serve the secondary PH cities with their Peach product. Don't need an AirJapan widebody for such.
Top
 
CRJ900
Posts: 2534
Joined: Wed Jun 02, 2004 2:48 am

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:30 am

Will they use the 335-seat B788s for this operation?
Top
 
User avatar
c933103
Posts: 7256
Joined: Wed May 18, 2016 7:23 pm

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:52 am

mercure1 wrote:
Devilfish wrote:
I wonder if Air Japan would now be a common sight at CEB, CRK and DVO with NH remaining in MNL? :scratchchin:


They could easily serve the secondary PH cities with their Peach product. Don't need an AirJapan widebody for such.

I think they are limiting their LCC narrowbody, at least those previous gen aircraft, to range up to 4 hours only.
Top
 
NZ321
Posts: 2152
Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:00 pm

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:30 am

CRJ900 wrote:
Will they use the 335-seat B788s for this operation?


I somehow doubt that; as I understand it that config is purely for domestic & short haul only. Seat guru lists it as such. AFAIK AirJapan is not planned as a budget / LCC brand, rather a medium-tier carrier, so I'd expect it to be more like an ANA light than a full ANA budget / LCC.
Top
 
eamondzhang
Posts: 2054
Joined: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:23 am

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:56 pm

What used to happen is they flew 763ERs and 787s on ANA AOC, supplying crew for certain routes only. Hence why all ANA 787s and international 767s carry Air Japan titles; they could fly ANA flight and switch to AJX later.

Now it seems that this is not going to happen and AJX is going stand-alone.

Michael
Top
 
moa999
Posts: 1348
Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:37 am

Re: ANA relaunch AirJapan as medium-haul 787 value carrier

Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:42 pm

Strange announcing this so far out. Almost two years to launch.

I assume the 767s will be retired.
Top
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: AirMitko, airsmiles, ArtV, bennett123, Bing [Bot], christao17, concordianSYD, CWLAirside, Deltran757, DeSpringbokke, dk44, Duartelmatos, EduSTR, EmberBight, flyer56, flyingclrs727, FlyingRocks, Gar1G, GPerm, jetblastdubai, JonesNL, Kiwiandrew, KMCOFlyer, mfamguy79, seabosdca, SN53, socaljoeyb, TTJonas, wopp1c, xwb777 and 237 guests

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos