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Thu May 12, 2022 12:24 pm

Please contniue from the previous Thread : viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1457387&start=100

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A3 ... deliveries

It seems 73 delivered, a backlog of 200. Production rate of 2.7 aircraft per month. / 30-35 per year~, but including MRTT)'s. .

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I think in terms of prospect the big Chinese customers are becoming interesting, Cathay, Southern, Air China and Eastern each have more than 60 high cycle CEO's in operation and 787 appetite seems low. The A330 Completion and Delivery Centre in Tianjin could be included in a NEO order.

But also an airline like Emirates showed interest in the past and 787 troubles could help the A330NEO https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 022-05-11/
 
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What about SK? Their 3 oldest A330-300 are ~20 years old.
 
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Thu May 12, 2022 1:39 pm

There is a strong chance for PAL to order the A330-900neo as a replacement for there fleet of A330-300 its been rumored that they will let go most of them in 2024 But will probably keep them in service until the end of the decade 2030's So an order will only happend in the mid-2020's.
 
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I would say that there is a high probability for Air Algerie to replace their 8 A332s with A339Neos as their Govt has given the go ahead to purchase 15 aircraft (WB/NB combo) to replace existing planes.
 
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Thu May 12, 2022 1:58 pm

I was thinking IAG (to replace BA 777-200ER's & compliment IB A350's) and also AF/KLM to replace their sizeable 777-200ER fleet. I would think there is a well their to tap for Airbus if the price is right of course.
 
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Thu May 12, 2022 2:01 pm

There are always possibilities for smaller airlines to add one or two. EI for example. Their stored 332 are very old but their 333 are very new. So if they need another WB they would hardly replace the 10 very very young 333s with 787s but having 10 333s and 2 787s is also not practical at all. So there can only be one option, the 339.
 
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I was thinking IAG (to replace BA 777-200ER's & compliment IB A350's) and also AF/KLM to replace their sizeable 777-200ER fleet. I would think there is a well their to tap for Airbus if the price is right of course.

I don’t see it. 787 or 350 for those fleets.

330NEO is just not that attractive IMO
 
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Thu May 12, 2022 2:33 pm

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There are always possibilities for smaller airlines to add one or two. EI for example. Their stored 332 are very old but their 333 are very new. So if they need another WB they would hardly replace the 10 very very young 333s with 787s but having 10 333s and 2 787s is also not practical at all. So there can only be one option, the 339.


EI with peak loads for sure could make the Neo work west coast USA, they are used to an intermix of capabilities on their A330 fleet. Size wise it does look like they will settle on an all -300 fleet, however not all do west coast as some have a crew rest area. But I do wonder if the current surge means they bring back the -200's.

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I don’t see it. 787 or 350 for those fleets.
330NEO is just not that attractive IMO


Fair enough views but remember the 787 is not exactly trouble free from a delivery perspective at the moment. If Airbus can price the A330neo under the A350 to carriers that don't need the 350's longer range, it might well happen.But also, lessors have orders which need placing and they can be squeezed too!
 
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CI has 23 A333s to replace, there were reports that Senator Graham from SC when in Taipei last month was canvassing the Taiwan government to have CI order 787s though the government denies it came up (in any official talks anyway). Government (or more accurately a government-run entity) still own just over a quarter CI shares.
Having had 30 A333/A343 once and now 14 A359 in fleet and 23 remaining A333s. I can't see the 787 getting a chance. This will be Airbus' to lose. But will they go for "regional A359s" a la SQ or some combo A359/A330neo.
They're replacing all their 158/161 seat 738s in the next 2 years with 180 seat A321neo. That leaves a gap to the 307/313 seater A333s and 306 seat A359s. Maybe they need a small number of A338s!!
 
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Thu May 12, 2022 3:23 pm

I feel BA will replace their 777-200ERs with more 787s, rather than introduce another fleet type to the mix. They also seem happy to run aircraft their complete service lives- I would imagine those 777s are very cheap to own now. The only alternative would be to add A350-900s, as they are at least a derivative rather than a whole new fleet. The rest of IAG though I think is a possibility- but not for a while, given that Iberia's oldest A330 is not yet 10 years old, and averages 6.3 years, and Aer Lingus's oldest in service is 15, averaging 7.4 years.

What is the cutoff in terms of stage length were the NEO has a clear advantage over the CEO? The financing cost of the CEOs will undoubtedly be less.
 
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Thu May 12, 2022 3:52 pm

I think it is interesting to consider that hundreds of A333s where bought and used for 300 seat regional operations, and very good at that. Over the years Airbus significantly upgraded MTOW, range, span and payload making it a capable long haul machine, but also less optimized to replace many of the aging A333's.

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Of course A321NEO sold wildly, but it's a far less capable machine.
 
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Thu May 12, 2022 4:05 pm

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I feel BA will replace their 777-200ERs with more 787s, rather than introduce another fleet type to the mix. They also seem happy to run aircraft their complete service lives- I would imagine those 777s are very cheap to own now. The only alternative would be to add A350-900s, as they are at least a derivative rather than a whole new fleet. The rest of IAG though I think is a possibility- but not for a while, given that Iberia's oldest A330 is not yet 10 years old, and averages 6.3 years, and Aer Lingus's oldest in service is 15, averaging 7.4 years.

What is the cutoff in terms of stage length were the NEO has a clear advantage over the CEO? The financing cost of the CEOs will undoubtedly be less.



From everything I read and heard they are pretty even until 4,000nm to 4,500nm then the 787 fuel burn is better. I know for longer distance travel the 787 is also better for cargo since the 330NEO crew rest module takes 4 or 5 LD3 cargo spots away. One carriers numbers have shown the 330-NEO and 767-300ER fuel burn on a 4,000nm-4,500nm route to be basically identical.
 
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One carriers numbers have shown the 330-NEO and 767-300ER fuel burn on a 4,000nm-4,500nm route to be basically identical.


Interesting, but those are totally different aircraft in terms of capacity. The A339 carries 50t, the 767-300ER 33t on a 4500nm flight.
 
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There is a strong chance for PAL to order the A330-900neo as a replacement for there fleet of A330-300 its been rumored that they will let go most of them in 2024 But will probably keep them in service until the end of the decade 2030's So an order will only happend in the mid-2020's.

But what aircraft would they use for LHR etc. which they seem decided on keeping? While the A359 is ideal, it's lease rate had proven untenable forcing their return. PR's choice is thus limited to used 789s that adds complexity to their fleet. Or a handful of the bottom widebody on the table graphic in #11 above, which presents a reasonable compromise at similar capacity and range in a new-build package - but possibly more keenly-priced to offset foregone orders :!:
 
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CI has 23 A333s to replace, there were reports that Senator Graham from SC when in Taipei last month was canvassing the Taiwan government to have CI order 787s though the government denies it came up (in any official talks anyway). Government (or more accurately a government-run entity) still own just over a quarter CI shares.
Having had 30 A333/A343 once and now 14 A359 in fleet and 23 remaining A333s. I can't see the 787 getting a chance. This will be Airbus' to lose. But will they go for "regional A359s" a la SQ or some combo A359/A330neo.
They're replacing all their 158/161 seat 738s in the next 2 years with 180 seat A321neo. That leaves a gap to the 307/313 seater A333s and 306 seat A359s. Maybe they need a small number of A338s!!


Yes I agree with you here that CI replacing their A333s with A339Neos is an order for Airbus to lose as it has all the level playing cards in its favor here. I don't foresee them pulling a BR by replacing their A330s with B787s for regional ops over the long term. Btw no way will CI order the A338 as they really don't need it for any route that its current A359 fleet cant handle.

The key will be finding out who is very interested in snapping up the former delivery slots of AAX's A339Neos.

Another two future potential orders of size able number of units can come from China Eastern and Air China to replace their A330Ceo fleet. MU has 55 A330s whilst CA has 54. Flexibility wise, they can use these birds up to Central Europe and West Coast North America.
 
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There is a strong chance for PAL to order the A330-900neo as a replacement for there fleet of A330-300 its been rumored that they will let go most of them in 2024 But will probably keep them in service until the end of the decade 2030's So an order will only happend in the mid-2020's.

But what aircraft would they use for LHR etc. which they seem decided on keeping? While the A359 is ideal, it's lease rate had proven untenable forcing their return. PR's choice is thus limited to used 789s that adds complexity to their fleet. Or a handful of the bottom widebody on the table graphic in #11 above, which presents a reasonable compromise at similar capacity and range in a new-build package - but possibly more keenly-priced to offset foregone orders :!:


There's a good chance a lot of lightly used ex-QR A350s will be available cheaply before too long if QR lose their case against Airbus...... If they are not airworthy according to the QAA they can hardly command a premium price if sold.
 
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There's a good chance a lot of lightly used ex-QR A350s will be available cheaply before too long if QR lose their case against Airbus...... If they are not airworthy according to the QAA they can hardly command a premium price if sold.

However, what advantage would the ex-QR birds give PR if the airline still had to spend a lot of money to make those airworthy again :?: Fine if it's only cosmetic defects and not structural ones. And it may still be more capacity than is needed at this time.
 
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The key will be finding out who is very interested in snapping up the former delivery slots of AAX's A339Neos.

There aren’t a lot of AAX reserved delivery slots left to snap up. AAX was only getting ~7/year (I think peak year was 9) with deliveries spread over something like 10 years. And this was all before production level was reduced. With AAX’s order being in limbo for so long at this point Airbus is probably nearing the end of all actual originally scheduled AAX slots. We already know from the amount of AAX white tails that Airbus halted AAX production/assigned slots/frames to others long before the order cancellation.
 
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Devilfish wrote:
DartHerald wrote:
There's a good chance a lot of lightly used ex-QR A350s will be available cheaply before too long if QR lose their case against Airbus...... If they are not airworthy according to the QAA they can hardly command a premium price if sold.

However, what advantage would the ex-QR birds give PR if the airline still had to spend a lot of money to make those airworthy again :?: Fine if it's only cosmetic defects and not structural ones. And it may still be more capacity than is needed at this time.


Wouldn't the buyer expect them to be repaired by Airbus to a satisfactory standard as a condition of sale? QR are going to have to have them repaired to either return them to use or sell them, they're not just going to scrap them are they?
 
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Wouldn't the buyer expect them to be repaired by Airbus to a satisfactory standard as a condition of sale?

Problem is, PR is hardly in a position to buy now, let alone compete for those frames (which after repair will be priced accordingly) against other carriers with deeper pockets. :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign: :dollarsign:

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QR are going to have to have them repaired to either return them to use or sell them, they're not just going to scrap them are they?

I don't know what QR would do with them...but IINM those are now tied up in litigation, aren't those?
 
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Yes I agree with you here that CI replacing their A333s with A339Neos is an order for Airbus to lose as it has all the level playing cards in its favor here. I don't foresee them pulling a BR by replacing their A330s with B787s for regional ops over the long term. Btw no way will CI order the A338 as they really don't need it for any route that its current A359 fleet cant handle.

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My thoughts on the A338 is that they need a 250 seater for long haul and regional and the range will be useful for starting new low density long haul. They ran A300s (and occasional 767) for years before the A333s. Also with Starlux entering the market, the need for larger planes may be less. Two A321s will not haul as much cargo as a single A338 and probably cost more to fly. Why not abuse an A339?? Capital acquisition cost on 2018 "list" may be 40+ million per plane. Abuse an A359 thats more like 60 million now. Whatever fraction of that list price they actually pay and whatever higher residual the larger planes may be worth eventually may still not be worth the likely 10-20 million more they pay up front and more cabin crew costs.
https://www.airbus.com/sites/g/files/jl ... s-2018.pdf
 
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I have been waiting for a predominantly A350 airline, long-haul focused, to acquire a small number of A338s for thinner routes and route proving. Not happened yet.
 
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I have been waiting for a predominantly A350 airline, long-haul focused, to acquire a small number of A338s for thinner routes and route proving. Not happened yet.

I thought KU would be the first airline to do this when Airbus used their latest A338 for the 251t flight test certification. Are KU still waiting for the FAA's reciprocal approval before fielding their A338H version on such routes?
 
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I wonder if Airbus will offer a regional version of the A339 optimized for regional ops given there are quite a few airlines with sizable regional fleets coming up for replacement.
 
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I wonder if Airbus will offer a regional version of the A339 optimized for regional ops given there are quite a few airlines with sizable regional fleets coming up for replacement.


There was a paper derate for lower MTOW recently.
 
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NZ321 wrote:
I wonder if Airbus will offer a regional version of the A339 optimized for regional ops given there are quite a few airlines with sizable regional fleets coming up for replacement.


There was a paper derate for lower MTOW recently.

A339 neo MTOW can be certified down to191K
https://www.airbus.com/en/airport-opera ... cteristics , page 42-3 in the A330 section
IIRC theA330 ceo regional has some changes , not sure if actual hardware or just paper changes, to allow for higher cycles besides lower TO weights.
 
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xl0hr wrote:
There was a paper derate for lower MTOW recently.

trex8 wrote:
A339 neo MTOW can be certified down to191K

Apparently, the A338 has also been offered at 200t MTOW.....not sure though which WV GL opted for.....

https://www.airdatanews.com/airbus-now- ... ht-weight/

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Shown below is Air Greenland's sole A338 on order, spotted earlier in TLS with the fuselage in primer but with its tail painted in GL colors..... :bigthumbsup:

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There is a sales campaign with China Airlines at the moment, and i´ve heard rumors that Malysian and Hainan will order A330neo.
And Sunclass will get A339 from Air Lease.
 
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There is a sales campaign with China Airlines at the moment, and i´ve heard rumors that Malysian and Hainan will order A330neo.
And Sunclass will get A339 from Air Lease.


You seem to be well informed on the subject. I think you were the first to break the news about Condor too.

May I ask if you know anything about Turkish? My dream to see A330neos placed with them. Both -800s and -900s.
 
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There is a sales campaign with China Airlines at the moment, and i´ve heard rumors that Malysian and Hainan will order A330neo.
And Sunclass will get A339 from Air Lease.


I seem to recall there was an announcement by MH that they were taking A339s, but obviously didn't come to fruition. Makes sense, their long haul network isn't massive, the A339 can easily cover Asia and Australia.
 
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JogiXFW wrote:
There is a sales campaign with China Airlines at the moment, and i´ve heard rumors that Malysian and Hainan will order A330neo.
And Sunclass will get A339 from Air Lease.


Except hasn’t Hainan already ordered 40x? They are understood to be the unidentified order.
 
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Really hoping for some A338s with these potential new customers! :D
 
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JogiXFW wrote:
There is a sales campaign with China Airlines at the moment, and i´ve heard rumors that Malysian and Hainan will order A330neo.
And Sunclass will get A339 from Air Lease.


Except hasn’t Hainan already ordered 40x? They are understood to be the unidentified order.


Highly doubt that Hainan Group is in any financial position to pay for new wide body aircraft deliveries. Their A359 slots went to Italy’s ITA.

IMO, the A339s are ideal for Swiss-LX on routes where the B77W capacity is considered too big.
 
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behramjee wrote:
jbs2886 wrote:
JogiXFW wrote:
There is a sales campaign with China Airlines at the moment, and i´ve heard rumors that Malysian and Hainan will order A330neo.
And Sunclass will get A339 from Air Lease.


Except hasn’t Hainan already ordered 40x? They are understood to be the unidentified order.


Highly doubt that Hainan Group is in any financial position to pay for new wide body aircraft deliveries. Their A359 slots went to Italy’s ITA.

IMO, the A339s are ideal for Swiss-LX on routes where the B77W capacity is considered too big.

The 40x UFO (reduced to 20 early this year) ordered in late 2019 was said to be HNA group.

Considering the number of bankruptcies and bailouts worldwide since then with the identity still unknown that heavily points to China, where information about the Chinese carriers is usually less public. It’s definitely not a western or publicly traded company.
 
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However, what advantage would the ex-QR birds give PR if the airline still had to spend a lot of money to make those airworthy again :?: Fine if it's only cosmetic defects



Have you seen the charge rate of carpet fitters these days?
 
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Have you seen the charge rate of carpet fitters these days?

Well, since you put it that way, then all the more reason PR should steer clear of those frames.
 
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JogiXFW wrote:
There is a sales campaign with China Airlines at the moment, and i´ve heard rumors that Malysian and Hainan will order A330neo.
And Sunclass will get A339 from Air Lease.


I seem to recall there was an announcement by MH that they were taking A339s, but obviously didn't come to fruition. Makes sense, their long haul network isn't massive, the A339 can easily cover Asia and Australia.


There might be an upcoming announcement at Farnborough by MH… I believe the A339 is the front runner for replace their current fleet of 21 A332/A333s…unless Boeing pulls off a spectacular package for its 787 offering.
 
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Exciting to hear of of a potential MH order, how about GA, any chance of a top up order eventually?

I wonder if longer term QF would replace their CEO with NEO? Not sure they need the 787 range capabilities on their domestic,Tasman, and Asian flying and 321 will be too small for many routes.
 
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There might be an upcoming announcement at Farnborough by MH… I believe the A339 is the front runner for replace their current fleet of 21 A332/A333s…unless Boeing pulls off a spectacular package for its 787 offering.


Certainly possible Boeing could put it off, they do have the capacity to bid under Airbus, even if it wouldn't be a good idea long-term as they do need that $$$. Would need a lot of support with training, conversion etc, but it's been done before (HA, though this was a smaller order for a then orphan type).

That said, MH would be a good catch for the A339's prospects, and I hope they select it, which has been rumoured by others as well. Though I don't see it happening, they could feasibly look at opening some thin routes to Europe with the A338.

smi0006 wrote:
Exciting to hear of of a potential MH order, how about GA, any chance of a top up order eventually?

I wonder if longer term QF would replace their CEO with NEO? Not sure they need the 787 range capabilities on their domestic,Tasman, and Asian flying and 321 will be too small for many routes.


I think GA did top up? Or at least they added A338s after the initial order.

I don't foresee QF going with the A339.
 
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Exciting to hear of of a potential MH order, how about GA, any chance of a top up order eventually?

I wonder if longer term QF would replace their CEO with NEO? Not sure they need the 787 range capabilities on their domestic,Tasman, and Asian flying and 321 will be too small for many routes.


QF I think will add more A350/787 configurations and just have those 2 widebody types long term, I can’t see the A330NEO personally.

MH I would think is a decent chance though. GA have they taken any NEOs yet?
 
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MH I would think is a decent chance though. GA have they taken any NEOs yet?


They have a handful, yes.

 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Sales Campaigns and Prospects Thread - 2022

Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:07 am

As part of GA’s restructuring (including Citilink) they are cutting their fleet basically in half from their peak and focusing on domestic operations and reigning back international ambitions. They were talking earlier about canceling all their outstanding A330neo orders (among others). I would not look to them for a top up anytime soon-they still have a couple A339s parked not in use.

See: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1461139&start=200
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Re: Airbus A330neo Sales Campaigns and Prospects Thread - 2022

Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:15 am

Polot wrote:
As part of GA’s restructuring they are cutting their fleet basically in half from their peak and focusing on domestic operations and reigning back international ambitions. They were talking earlier about canceling all their outstanding A330neo orders (among others). I would not look to them for a top up anytime soon-they still have a couple A339s parked not in use.

At least three 339s that were going to GA are ntu and are going to Condor. GA won't be ordering any more.
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Sales Campaigns and Prospects Thread - 2022

Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:40 pm

MrHMSH wrote:
I think GA did top up? Or at least they added A338s after the initial order.

Which had since been cancelled as well. :expressionless:

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