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Old TWA documentary re-released in high quaity

Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:35 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruoVjAx ... el=NinePBS

This was originally produced back in 2001, but I've never seen this documentary before. It's pretty informative.
 
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Re: Old TWA documentary re-released in high quaity

Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:38 am

Not sure I would call 360p high quality, it’s almost the lowest video resolution YouTube offers.
 
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Re: Old TWA documentary re-released in high quaity

Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:57 am

a320fan wrote:
Not sure I would call 360p high quality, it’s almost the lowest video resolution YouTube offers.


It's still higher quality than your average VHS.
 
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Re: Old TWA documentary re-released in high quaity

Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:06 am

Thank you for posting this; I hadn't watched it before. How sad that it was clearly made, for the most part, pre-merger announcement... and then it all came crashing down.

a320fan wrote:
Not sure I would call 360p high quality, it’s almost the lowest video resolution YouTube offers.

1. I watched it in 480. He didn't say it was in HD, he said it was in high quality, which it most definitely is. It looks far better than most of what you'll find from the turn of the century.
2. Some of us remember what VHS was like; compared to that, the YouTube video he linked is practically miraculous.
 
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Re: Old TWA documentary re-released in high quaity

Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:55 pm

This is broadcast quality, by the way, so those complaining about the quality are a bit over the top.

Anyway, just watched the entire documentary. It's really well done and covers the TWA story very well.

It's a shame we don't have TWA any longer, they were a great outfit!
 
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Re: Old TWA documentary re-released in high quaity

Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:23 am

I like the Diamonds in the Sky about United from 1978.

https://youtu.be/VBUatj4gTvk

There is a version w/o the on screen clock, but divided into 4 parts.
 
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Re: Old TWA documentary re-released in high quaity

Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:03 am

alberchico wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruoVjAx1W9s&ab_channel=NinePBS

This was originally produced back in 2001, but I've never seen this documentary before. It's pretty informative.


Thanks so much for posting this. The quality is quite good, given it is 21 years old and really tells the story in many ways, like it was. I grew up in the 1970s and 1980s flying TWA a lot, mostly out of New York and this brought back a lot of memories.
 
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Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:36 am

I never had the opportunity to properly appreciate TW. Love this doc.
 
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Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:11 am

When the CEO mentioned how the fleet may look in 2004, 2005, and 2007, was the merger with AA already planned?
 
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Re: Old TWA documentary re-released in high quaity

Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:18 am

alberchico wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruoVjAx1W9s&ab_channel=NinePBS

This was originally produced back in 2001, but I've never seen this documentary before. It's pretty informative.


This was a good documentary, thanks for sharing.
 
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Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:23 am

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Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:28 am

af773atmsp wrote:
When the CEO mentioned how the fleet may look in 2004, 2005, and 2007, was the merger with AA already planned?


Replace merger in your question with bankruptcy and you will find your answer. Meaning, they never planned on merging, and to be honest they were absorbed/taken over not merged.
 
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Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:30 am

XRadar98 wrote:
af773atmsp wrote:
When the CEO mentioned how the fleet may look in 2004, 2005, and 2007, was the merger with AA already planned?


Replace merger in your question with bankruptcy and you will find your answer. Meaning, they never planned on merging, and to be honest they were absorbed/taken over not merged.


It wasn't a merger. TWA filed for bankruptcy at the same time that it agreed to be acquired by AMR Corporation, which is what AA's parent was known as then. TWA sold most of its assets to American for $300 million and got $200 million in immediate financing to continue operating. TWA became a subsidiary of American Airlines (once the deal was approved by regulators, it became TWA Airlines LLC). TWA officially ceased to exist on December 1st 2001.

Compton's comments about the fleet in 2004, 2005, etc...was likely comments clipped from the airline's prior plane purchases and leases (757s, 717s mainly).

American Airlines got rid of all the leased TWA aircraft it inherited quickly as the leases were extraordinarily high given TWA's poor credit rating. The 757s ended up mostly with Delta, and most still fly with them. The 767-300ERs were returned to their various lessors, and American Airlines ordered 9 new 763s from Boeing which were delivered in 2002 and 2003, I believe. One was written off following a fire on take off at ORD in 2019. These were the only AA 763s that featured nose to tail 777-style architecture inside. The 717s mostly went to Air Tran and Hawaiian Airlines.
 
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Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:54 am

ContinentalEWR wrote:
Compton's comments about the fleet in 2004, 2005, etc...was likely comments clipped from the airline's prior plane purchases and leases (757s, 717s mainly).

TWA also had a bunch of A318s on order (which probably would have been converted to other A320 family members with the A318 engine troubles/delays).
 
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Re: Old TWA documentary re-released in high quaity

Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:56 am

I feel old that something from 2001 is old
 
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Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:34 pm

Polot wrote:
ContinentalEWR wrote:
Compton's comments about the fleet in 2004, 2005, etc...was likely comments clipped from the airline's prior plane purchases and leases (757s, 717s mainly).

TWA also had a bunch of A318s on order (which probably would have been converted to other A320 family members with the A318 engine troubles/delays).


Yes, that's true and going back to the late 1980s/early 1990s, they also had an MOU for A330s, but that never happened, as we all know.
 
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Re: Old TWA documentary re-released in high quaity

Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:50 pm

ContinentalEWR wrote:
Polot wrote:
ContinentalEWR wrote:
Compton's comments about the fleet in 2004, 2005, etc...was likely comments clipped from the airline's prior plane purchases and leases (757s, 717s mainly).

TWA also had a bunch of A318s on order (which probably would have been converted to other A320 family members with the A318 engine troubles/delays).


Yes, that's true and going back to the late 1980s/early 1990s, they also had an MOU for A330s, but that never happened, as we all know.

They had a firm order for A330s (initially for 20, but I think it was reduced to 10 during early 90s bankruptcy) . IIRC deposits from that eventually cancelled order were used for the A318 order.

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