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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:40 pm

Anyhow...Peter Bellew formerly of Easyjet viewed as candidate for DAA after their last disaster of a CEO.
Discuss.
I think it is a joke.
https://www.independent.ie/business/iri ... 23425.html
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:41 pm

OA260 wrote:
Passengers demand to access their luggage with GPS tracker in bags

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2022/07 ... t-luggage/

So near but yet so far !


Passed through the airport Wednesday night. The baggage reclaim area was crazy with the amount of luggage. Spotted one piece of luggage from Doha, from the 28th of June still there.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:19 pm

https://i2-prod.dublinlive.ie/incoming/ ... AMeKEs.jpg

I wanted to comment on this image of DUB back in the 50’s and 60’s and I think it’s simply incredible. Fascinating. To see how much the airport has expanded down through the years. To also see how some of these buildings are still in use today.

I have always wondered why there was a church bang smack in the middle on the airport. Now I know the answer. Originally, it was across the road from the airport, and over time was simply gobbled up.

And to see how far EI HQ(now the ESB building) was from the airport terminal.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:28 pm

I think the idea that easyJet is on the verge of liquidation and worth the sum-total of nothing is a wild claim. In 2019 they were the 5th largest airline group in 2019 with 103.3 million passengers (behind FR, LH, IAG and AF/KL) and a fleet of 324 A32X, the 3rd largest A320 fleet globally and largest in Europe. While they have a small presence in Ireland, that should not be confused with their overall position in the European market.

Interesting article in the London Times this weekend. I think it's behind a paywall but the essence is that FR has, by any measure, the most reliable operation into and out of the UK this summer. The article is a bit inconsistent, but the stats for UK cancellations are:
FR 0.2% (Av delay 27 minutes)
LS 0.2% (Av delay 3 minutes)
BA 3.6% (Av delay 27 minutes)
W9 3.9% (Av delay 35 minutes)
U2 4.8% (Av delay 28 minutes)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/how- ... -5qtw5fwsb

Clearly the summer is a challenge for some airlines more than others. I doubt the operational performances this summer will be fatal for any airline. It's going to be a bumpy ride, for example FR have hedged fuel while Wizz have none hedged at all. While the media are making a big deal about "nightmare" summers, far in excess of 95% of the planned schedule is being flown by the European airlines. The delays are fairly substantial though.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:20 pm

KIRFlyer wrote:
https://i2-prod.dublinlive.ie/incoming/article22213847.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_FEdwa_uXEAMeKEs.jpg

I wanted to comment on this image of DUB back in the 50’s and 60’s and I think it’s simply incredible. Fascinating. To see how much the airport has expanded down through the years. To also see how some of these buildings are still in use today.

I have always wondered why there was a church bang smack in the middle on the airport. Now I know the answer. Originally, it was across the road from the airport, and over time was simply gobbled up.

And to see how far EI HQ(now the ESB building) was from the airport terminal.


The presence of two Aer Lingus Boeing 707s and a Carvair dates the image to the 1965/6 period, as the second 707 was delivered in 1965 and the Carvairs were wfu by late 1966.
https://www.key.aero/article/aer-lingus ... experiment
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:44 pm

BrianDromey wrote:
I think the idea that easyJet is on the verge of liquidation and worth the sum-total of nothing is a wild claim. In 2019 they were the 5th largest airline group in 2019 with 103.3 million passengers (behind FR, LH, IAG and AF/KL) and a fleet of 324 A32X, the 3rd largest A320 fleet globally and largest in Europe. While they have a small presence in Ireland, that should not be confused with their overall position in the European market.

Interesting article in the London Times this weekend. I think it's behind a paywall but the essence is that FR has, by any measure, the most reliable operation into and out of the UK this summer. The article is a bit inconsistent, but the stats for UK cancellations are:
FR 0.2% (Av delay 27 minutes)
LS 0.2% (Av delay 3 minutes)
BA 3.6% (Av delay 27 minutes)
W9 3.9% (Av delay 35 minutes)
U2 4.8% (Av delay 28 minutes)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/how- ... -5qtw5fwsb

Clearly the summer is a challenge for some airlines more than others. I doubt the operational performances this summer will be fatal for any airline. It's going to be a bumpy ride, for example FR have hedged fuel while Wizz have none hedged at all. While the media are making a big deal about "nightmare" summers, far in excess of 95% of the planned schedule is being flown by the European airlines. The delays are fairly substantial though.


Unless I am mis reading these figures LS match FR for cancellation rate and their average delay is much better.

The other three have higher cancellation rates, but BA have the same average delay and U2 is fractionally higher.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:16 am

A bit extreme but certainly solved the problem !

Passenger buys airline ticket to get lost luggage back at Dublin Airport
'I got the cheapest ticket I could, which was a flight to Glasgow for €18 courtesy of Ryanair, and went through security and on to the baggage reclaim area'

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-n ... 441556.amp
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:30 am

OA260 wrote:
A bit extreme but certainly solved the problem !

Passenger buys airline ticket to get lost luggage back at Dublin Airport
'I got the cheapest ticket I could, which was a flight to Glasgow for €18 courtesy of Ryanair, and went through security and on to the baggage reclaim area'

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-n ... 441556.amp



Not sure I buy this? If he went through security, he would have been in the departures area. How did he then get through to arrivals? He would have had to have been escorted by staff, who if he wasn't flying wouldn't necessarily have escorted him through arrivals, I would have thought?
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Mon Jul 11, 2022 12:31 pm

wexfordflyer wrote:
OA260 wrote:
A bit extreme but certainly solved the problem !

Passenger buys airline ticket to get lost luggage back at Dublin Airport
'I got the cheapest ticket I could, which was a flight to Glasgow for €18 courtesy of Ryanair, and went through security and on to the baggage reclaim area'

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-n ... 441556.amp



Not sure I buy this? If he went through security, he would have been in the departures area. How did he then get through to arrivals? He would have had to have been escorted by staff, who if he wasn't flying wouldn't necessarily have escorted him through arrivals, I would have thought?


There's still a set of no-return doors in to passport control and the baggage hall over in the 200 gates is there not?
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:08 pm

EIDL wrote:
wexfordflyer wrote:
OA260 wrote:
A bit extreme but certainly solved the problem !

Passenger buys airline ticket to get lost luggage back at Dublin Airport
'I got the cheapest ticket I could, which was a flight to Glasgow for €18 courtesy of Ryanair, and went through security and on to the baggage reclaim area'

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-n ... 441556.amp



Not sure I buy this? If he went through security, he would have been in the departures area. How did he then get through to arrivals? He would have had to have been escorted by staff, who if he wasn't flying wouldn't necessarily have escorted him through arrivals, I would have thought?


There's still a set of no-return doors in to passport control and the baggage hall over in the 200 gates is there not?


Oh perhaps you're right!
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:37 pm

EIDL wrote:
wexfordflyer wrote:
OA260 wrote:
A bit extreme but certainly solved the problem !

Passenger buys airline ticket to get lost luggage back at Dublin Airport
'I got the cheapest ticket I could, which was a flight to Glasgow for €18 courtesy of Ryanair, and went through security and on to the baggage reclaim area'

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-n ... 441556.amp



Not sure I buy this? If he went through security, he would have been in the departures area. How did he then get through to arrivals? He would have had to have been escorted by staff, who if he wasn't flying wouldn't necessarily have escorted him through arrivals, I would have thought?


There's still a set of no-return doors in to passport control and the baggage hall over in the 200 gates is there not?


Yes that's how I left when I had to cancel a trip at the very last minute last year.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:10 pm

wexfordflyer wrote:
OA260 wrote:
A bit extreme but certainly solved the problem !

Passenger buys airline ticket to get lost luggage back at Dublin Airport
'I got the cheapest ticket I could, which was a flight to Glasgow for €18 courtesy of Ryanair, and went through security and on to the baggage reclaim area'

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-n ... 441556.amp



Not sure I buy this? If he went through security, he would have been in the departures area. How did he then get through to arrivals? He would have had to have been escorted by staff, who if he wasn't flying wouldn't necessarily have escorted him through arrivals, I would have thought?


There would need to be a way for passengers that miss flights to get back to the main terminal anyway.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:16 pm

AmricanShamrok wrote:
FLYKTPA wrote:
CairnterriAIR wrote:

Still waiting for BDL (Hartford)


It’s only MSP and BDL. Aer Lingus never offered BWI

A nugget of trivia: EI used to fly DUB-SNN-BWI in the early 2000s (initially launched in summer 2000 and was on and off until about 2004 when it was permanently cut). They used the same flight numbers as today's DUB-IAD (EI119/EI118).

https://www.independent.ie/business/oro ... 14146.html


Indeed. I flew on the BWI route a couple times, and still have a nice calculator handed out at the inaugural celebration.

IMG-5743a.jpg
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:06 pm

KIRFlyer wrote:
https://i2-prod.dublinlive.ie/incoming/article22213847.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_FEdwa_uXEAMeKEs.jpg

I wanted to comment on this image of DUB back in the 50’s and 60’s and I think it’s simply incredible. Fascinating. To see how much the airport has expanded down through the years. To also see how some of these buildings are still in use today.

I have always wondered why there was a church bang smack in the middle on the airport. Now I know the answer. Originally, it was across the road from the airport, and over time was simply gobbled up.

And to see how far EI HQ(now the ESB building) was from the airport terminal.



It looks like Corballis House just to the left of the crease towards the top of the picture, so gives an idea where the T1 ramp starts.

Does anyone know the original purpose of the building to the left of the original terminal, that ended up as the terminal for Lourdes flights.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:52 pm

Clydenairways wrote:
wexfordflyer wrote:
OA260 wrote:
A bit extreme but certainly solved the problem !

Passenger buys airline ticket to get lost luggage back at Dublin Airport
'I got the cheapest ticket I could, which was a flight to Glasgow for €18 courtesy of Ryanair, and went through security and on to the baggage reclaim area'

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-n ... 441556.amp



Not sure I buy this? If he went through security, he would have been in the departures area. How did he then get through to arrivals? He would have had to have been escorted by staff, who if he wasn't flying wouldn't necessarily have escorted him through arrivals, I would have thought?


There would need to be a way for passengers that miss flights to get back to the main terminal anyway.


I know there is at EDI.

Once I booked the 18:15 instead of the 19:30.

Got there in plenty of time, but forgot I had booked the earlier flight.

Oops.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:28 pm

LH982 wrote:

Does anyone know the original purpose of the building to the left of the original terminal, that ended up as the terminal for Lourdes flights.


North Terminal. Was initially the "international" (non UK flights - not sure how much domestic there was in 1959!) terminal, built when the original building was getting over-full; and then it was the arrivals terminal until T1.

It held the Garda station until a while ago and I think its been most recently used for PCR testing.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:29 pm

NiallS wrote:
EIDL wrote:
wexfordflyer wrote:


Not sure I buy this? If he went through security, he would have been in the departures area. How did he then get through to arrivals? He would have had to have been escorted by staff, who if he wasn't flying wouldn't necessarily have escorted him through arrivals, I would have thought?


There's still a set of no-return doors in to passport control and the baggage hall over in the 200 gates is there not?


Yes that's how I left when I had to cancel a trip at the very last minute last year.



Agreed - That's how I went back to the main check in hall when my flights were canceled and the agents at the gate couldn't process the rebooking. The immigration officer had a chuckle, and it felt quite odd to go through immigration and customs with nothing but my passport since my family stayed in the gate area until I got it sorted.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:17 pm

KIRFlyer wrote:
https://i2-prod.dublinlive.ie/incoming/article22213847.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_FEdwa_uXEAMeKEs.jpg

I wanted to comment on this image of DUB back in the 50’s and 60’s and I think it’s simply incredible. Fascinating. To see how much the airport has expanded down through the years. To also see how some of these buildings are still in use today.

I have always wondered why there was a church bang smack in the middle on the airport. Now I know the answer. Originally, it was across the road from the airport, and over time was simply gobbled up.

And to see how far EI HQ(now the ESB building) was from the airport terminal.


That is such a fantastic, evocative photo. The original "A" pier, now the "200s" is around for 60+ years and I guess the further pier was rebuilt as the B pier, now the "300s". Definitely a mid '60s picture. Life at DUB must have been so much more leisurely and laid back then!
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:08 pm

I used the new Aer Lingus Regional ( Emerald Airlines ) service BHD - SOU today. What a breath of fresh air.
Was through security in 5 mins . Aer Club uses the Aspire ( Former bmi / BA lounge ) . Decent offerings in there including thai chicken curry. The lounge needs a deep clean though especially the carpets but it was still comfortable and well stocked . A few famous faces in the lounge including one of the Derry girls.

Aircraft was EI - GPP . Very pleasant cabin with comfortable seats . Greeted by a smiling familiar face. The CCM was a former TCX BFS based crew member who used to be on my ACE - BFS flights . So glad they got a place with Emerald. The flight was 80% full which is not bad considering its only gone on sale .

I see Marathon Airlines of Greece is using their E Jet to operate for Flybe . Today it was doing BHD - LBA .


Image


Was great to see 3 EIR tails lined up at BHD . Long may it last .



Image

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Easyjet looked like it was having a nightmare and a 1030 to LGW was due out at 1600 stranding some NI football fans who then got onto the EIR flight.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:58 am

kaitak wrote:
KIRFlyer wrote:
https://i2-prod.dublinlive.ie/incoming/article22213847.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_FEdwa_uXEAMeKEs.jpg

I wanted to comment on this image of DUB back in the 50’s and 60’s and I think it’s simply incredible. Fascinating. To see how much the airport has expanded down through the years. To also see how some of these buildings are still in use today.

I have always wondered why there was a church bang smack in the middle on the airport. Now I know the answer. Originally, it was across the road from the airport, and over time was simply gobbled up.

And to see how far EI HQ(now the ESB building) was from the airport terminal.


That is such a fantastic, evocative photo. The original "A" pier, now the "200s" is around for 60+ years and I guess the further pier was rebuilt as the B pier, now the "300s". Definitely a mid '60s picture. Life at DUB must have been so much more leisurely and laid back then!


Old enough to recall both piers being built!

Indeed the airport was fairly dead then, few arrivals and departures but plenty of balcony space to view them.
When the first pier was built they used to charge 6 old pence to access the viewing area there, a significant sum for a kid trying to see light aircraft or other odd transients parked near the end of the pier. The North Terminal then handled all arrivals, as the space in the original Terminal was insufficient. IIRC most of the North building was for airside use, with a fairly shallow area for cleared passengers.
 
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Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:18 am

Aer Lingus cancels four transatlantic flights due to staff illness

https://m.independent.ie/life/travel/tr ... 32138.html

BOS and ORD are impacted today .
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:07 am

OA260 wrote:
Seems some of the DUB-ACE-DUB flights are being re organised with Privilege Style taking over and some flights with 2 hours time changes. On some days the EI 779 will now operate
2220/0225.


I'm in Barcelona right now and glanced up to the sky to see a 777 and was surprised to see it was an EI flight from Dublin operated with the same ex-SQ aircraft operated by Privilege Style.

Between FR's 5-6 daily flights to the BCN area (two/three to BCN, one/two to REU, one to GRO), VY's single flight, EI's double daily and the odd TUI DUB-REU flight, there's a as many as 10 flights between DUB and the Barcelona area some days this summer.

Add to that FR's 8 weekly flights from ORK and 4 from SNN (when totaling flights to REU/GRO) and LS/U2's combined 8 weekly flights from BFS (to BCN and REU) and there's a remarkable amount of connectivity.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:28 am

Aer Lingus reviewed in an Australian paper...

https://www.traveller.com.au/airline-review-aer-lingus-a321neo-economy-class-dublin-to-london-heathrow-h24k3i

Must have travelled a while ago if food was suspended :)
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:54 am

Tracks wrote:
OA260 wrote:
Seems some of the DUB-ACE-DUB flights are being re organised with Privilege Style taking over and some flights with 2 hours time changes. On some days the EI 779 will now operate
2220/0225.


I'm in Barcelona right now and glanced up to the sky to see a 777 and was surprised to see it was an EI flight from Dublin operated with the same ex-SQ aircraft operated by Privilege Style.

Between FR's 5-6 daily flights to the BCN area (two/three to BCN, one/two to REU, one to GRO), VY's single flight, EI's double daily and the odd TUI DUB-REU flight, there's a as many as 10 flights between DUB and the Barcelona area some days this summer.

Add to that FR's 8 weekly flights from ORK and 4 from SNN (when totaling flights to REU/GRO) and LS/U2's combined 8 weekly flights from BFS (to BCN and REU) and there's a remarkable amount of connectivity.

volume to Catalonia may not decrease but the number of planes may decrease when Ryanair have more 8200s and perhaps 737-10s in their fleet.
also I find that from family members that they might book their first holdiay to a region of Spain or Portugal as a holiday package and afterwards return multiple times arrange flight and accommodation independently which means Ryanair usually gets their business.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:04 pm

The High Court has approved a settlement of €66,000 in the case of a 12-year-old boy who was burned by hot chocolate on an Aer Lingus flight.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2022/07 ... chocolate/

Imagine hot chocolate being hot !
 
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Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:53 pm

Dublin Airport workers arrested over €1m cocaine seizure

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/n ... 34786.html

Major drugs bust at Dublin Airport and being investigated as an inside job .
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:09 pm

Arrived in Dublin this evening in a very busy flight from LCY…despite a short wait for the ground staff to assemble we were off and through with minimum fuss! The pick up area out where the bus station is was a bit of a mess however…
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:33 pm

I came across this today. It`s a story about a charter company being refused landing slots at DUB on 5 out of 6 weeks. The 5 flights were accommodated by KIR. Not sure why KIR became the alternate or if this just highlights the ongoing problems at DUB.
https://www.businessinsider.com/labor-s ... the%20news.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:29 am

RandWkop wrote:
I came across this today. It`s a story about a charter company being refused landing slots at DUB on 5 out of 6 weeks. The 5 flights were accommodated by KIR. Not sure why KIR became the alternate or if this just highlights the ongoing problems at DUB.
https://www.businessinsider.com/labor-s ... the%20news.


Dublin surely is quite full at this time of year with just the single runway and is it not the company ACL who look after the slots? the positive from this is how Kerry was able to handle the flights. Until Dublin expands it's boarding gates and pier capacity which may well take another couple of years it'll remain tight even with North runway opening next month.
 
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Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:49 am

Tracks wrote:
OA260 wrote:
Seems some of the DUB-ACE-DUB flights are being re organised with Privilege Style taking over and some flights with 2 hours time changes. On some days the EI 779 will now operate
2220/0225.


I'm in Barcelona right now and glanced up to the sky to see a 777 and was surprised to see it was an EI flight from Dublin operated with the same ex-SQ aircraft operated by Privilege Style.

Between FR's 5-6 daily flights to the BCN area (two/three to BCN, one/two to REU, one to GRO), VY's single flight, EI's double daily and the odd TUI DUB-REU flight, there's a as many as 10 flights between DUB and the Barcelona area some days this summer.

Add to that FR's 8 weekly flights from ORK and 4 from SNN (when totaling flights to REU/GRO) and LS/U2's combined 8 weekly flights from BFS (to BCN and REU) and there's a remarkable amount of connectivity.

Also FR’s 3 weekly Knock-Girona. Quite impressive indeed.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:34 am

it says something about how poor Ireland's weather and vacation offerings are. Just getting to the airport with a gaggle of kids is an expedition in itself.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:48 am

PhilipBass wrote:
it says something about how poor Ireland's weather and vacation offerings are. Just getting to the airport with a gaggle of kids is an expedition in itself.

I don't understand either why everybody thinks a holiday isn't a holiday unless it's abroad. The weather isn't any worse than in the 60 and 70ties, yet in those days people were quite happy to spend their holidays in Salthill or Bundoran :lol: :lol: Less sunburn, the pint tasted just like the one at home and you found as many of your neighbors there as you find today on the Costa Brava !
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:45 am

RandWkop wrote:
I came across this today. It`s a story about a charter company being refused landing slots at DUB on 5 out of 6 weeks. The 5 flights were accommodated by KIR. Not sure why KIR became the alternate or if this just highlights the ongoing problems at DUB.
https://www.businessinsider.com/labor-s ... the%20news.


Is this story referring to the 737-500’s from SOU that were charters bringing US passengers back to the US? I mentioned it in a previous post.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:49 am

aviator2000 wrote:
Also FR’s 3 weekly Knock-Girona. Quite impressive indeed.


I hadn't realised there were Knock flights too - just goes to show the popularity of Spain, and great to see more regional options.
 
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Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:40 pm

SRGVA67 wrote:
PhilipBass wrote:
it says something about how poor Ireland's weather and vacation offerings are. Just getting to the airport with a gaggle of kids is an expedition in itself.

I don't understand either why everybody thinks a holiday isn't a holiday unless it's abroad. The weather isn't any worse than in the 60 and 70ties, yet in those days people were quite happy to spend their holidays in Salthill or Bundoran :lol: :lol: Less sunburn, the pint tasted just like the one at home and you found as many of your neighbors there as you find today on the Costa Brava !


Probably the cost of being ripped off in Ireland is the main reason. Unless you holiday across the border in NI.
A week in the Canaries or Turkey is cheaper than a week in Kerry .
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:03 pm

Absolutely. I was in Madrid a few weeks ago and the cost of accommodation, food, and drink was on average 50% lower than Ireland. Fabulous city with near-guaranteed sunshine. Even when factoring in €350 for flights, the savings for a week-long trip are very considerable. As much as I enjoy a holiday in Ireland, the value proposition just isn’t there at the moment.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:39 pm

neutral wrote:
RandWkop wrote:
I came across this today. It`s a story about a charter company being refused landing slots at DUB on 5 out of 6 weeks. The 5 flights were accommodated by KIR. Not sure why KIR became the alternate or if this just highlights the ongoing problems at DUB.
https://www.businessinsider.com/labor-s ... the%20news.


Dublin surely is quite full at this time of year with just the single runway and is it not the company ACL who look after the slots? the positive from this is how Kerry was able to handle the flights. Until Dublin expands it's boarding gates and pier capacity which may well take another couple of years it'll remain tight even with North runway opening next month.


Yes, Dublin is effectively full all day long, with a constant stream of scheduled and charter operations as well as a sizeable number of executive jets. Actual parking stands for aircraft are finite in number and rarely vacant for any length of time.There are also works going on on taxiways etc which further affects movement of aircraft. The article is vague as regards what the limitation was, given that handling companies are private concerns.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:43 pm

iRISH251 wrote:
neutral wrote:
RandWkop wrote:
I came across this today. It`s a story about a charter company being refused landing slots at DUB on 5 out of 6 weeks. The 5 flights were accommodated by KIR. Not sure why KIR became the alternate or if this just highlights the ongoing problems at DUB.
https://www.businessinsider.com/labor-s ... the%20news.


Dublin surely is quite full at this time of year with just the single runway and is it not the company ACL who look after the slots? the positive from this is how Kerry was able to handle the flights. Until Dublin expands it's boarding gates and pier capacity which may well take another couple of years it'll remain tight even with North runway opening next month.


Yes, Dublin is effectively full all day long, with a constant stream of scheduled and charter operations as well as a sizeable number of executive jets. Actual parking stands for aircraft are finite in number and rarely vacant for any length of time.There are also works going on on taxiways etc which further affects movement of aircraft. The article is vague as regards what the limitation was, given that handling companies are private concerns.


I agree, they didn't get the slots they wanted, it happens and scheduled carriers have prriority with historic allocations. Handlers had to turn them down which again is fair enough. I suspect they will be more annoyed with the costs involved at KIR more than anything else, can't see it been to cheap for them.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:57 am

JAmie2k9 wrote:
iRISH251 wrote:
neutral wrote:

Dublin surely is quite full at this time of year with just the single runway and is it not the company ACL who look after the slots? the positive from this is how Kerry was able to handle the flights. Until Dublin expands it's boarding gates and pier capacity which may well take another couple of years it'll remain tight even with North runway opening next month.


Yes, Dublin is effectively full all day long, with a constant stream of scheduled and charter operations as well as a sizeable number of executive jets. Actual parking stands for aircraft are finite in number and rarely vacant for any length of time.There are also works going on on taxiways etc which further affects movement of aircraft. The article is vague as regards what the limitation was, given that handling companies are private concerns.


I agree, they didn't get the slots they wanted, it happens and scheduled carriers have prriority with historic allocations. Handlers had to turn them down which again is fair enough. I suspect they will be more annoyed with the costs involved at KIR more than anything else, can't see it been to cheap for them.


BFS and BHD also had to turn them, and other charter business away, due to the same staffing/resources issue faced by southern airports
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:13 am

From 18/7 - 24/7 the EI 776/777 is being cancelled on
Mon / Wed / Fri / Sat / Sun . Thats a massive blow in peak season considering the flights are nearly full.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:42 am

OA260 wrote:
From 18/7 - 24/7 the EI 776/777 is being cancelled on
Mon / Wed / Fri / Sat / Sun . Thats a massive blow in peak season considering the flights are nearly full.


The Privilege Style 777-200 is operating the afternoon EI778/9 this week so presumably that makes up to a fair degree. It is listed on the company's website as having 312 seats. https://flic.kr/p/2nxWu2s
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:49 am

Currently sat having a lint in terminal 1…from entering the building to being checked in and through security took 7.5 minutes…
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:53 am

I'm very shocked that in this day and age, an airline can simply say, "we've cancelled your flight, but here's your money back". That just doesn't wash. If I have a flight booked to a certain place, I have hotels, car hire etc. I would expect airlines to have made alternative arrangements, e.g. via LHR, AMS - or anywhere else. A mere refund doesn't sufficiently outweigh my inconvenience.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:16 am

kaitak wrote:
I'm very shocked that in this day and age, an airline can simply say, "we've cancelled your flight, but here's your money back". That just doesn't wash. If I have a flight booked to a certain place, I have hotels, car hire etc. I would expect airlines to have made alternative arrangements, e.g. via LHR, AMS - or anywhere else. A mere refund doesn't sufficiently outweigh my inconvenience.


Exactly that . A mate of mine asked me for advice as
an airline was trying to push a refund instead of their desire to be rebooked. The airline then tried to play games with fare differences of €135 each . Another call being more assertive but polite got the desired result. There needs to be a monitored process and tightening up of clear rules as passengers are being duped . A refund a week before does not cut it when its been booked months ago and alternatives 4-5 times the price.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:44 pm

Always a handy website:
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/t ... ellation-1

If the airline does not offer you the choice between reimbursement and re-routing but decides unilaterally to reimburse your original ticket, you are entitled to an additional reimbursement of the price difference with the new ticket (under comparable transport conditions).


Which I read as book a new flight and send the bill to the airline.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:17 pm

kaitak wrote:
I'm very shocked that in this day and age, an airline can simply say, "we've cancelled your flight, but here's your money back". That just doesn't wash. If I have a flight booked to a certain place, I have hotels, car hire etc. I would expect airlines to have made alternative arrangements, e.g. via LHR, AMS - or anywhere else. A mere refund doesn't sufficiently outweigh my inconvenience.


I agree completely.
Airlines are far too casual about the damage they cause to customers when things go wrong.
The balance of power is heavily skewed in favour of the airlines and this has resulted in a deteriorating customer and employee experience, culminating in the present shambles.
While EU 261 was a welcome attempt to redress the imbalance, it is clearly inadequate to deal with the post-covid meltdown.
With airlines lying to avoid paying compensation and or making it close to impossible for customers to contact them, clearly something isn't working.

It may be that a stick and carrot approach is warranted.
Higher fares combined with much more EU oversight of airline behaviour and a beefed up EU261 should go some way towards a sustainable solution.

The airlines have brought it on themselves.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:09 am

€40,000 settlement after cabin pressure drop left some Ryanair passengers with bleeding ears during emergency landing
The cases arise from an incident during a flight between Dublin and Zadar in Croatia

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/c ... 41266.html

Aside from the main issue the number of times you read people checking in their medication is unreal.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:36 am

It’s going to be another messy day at Dublin airport. 4 BA flights to LHR cancelled (I know there were runway maintenance delays at LHR which overran last night but not sure if this is the cause of all of the cancellations or if there’s also capacity reductions).

On top of that, Aer Lingus cancellations to Munich, Gatwick, Lyon & Bordeaux.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:30 am

Eirules wrote:
It’s going to be another messy day at Dublin airport. 4 BA flights to LHR cancelled (I know there were runway maintenance delays at LHR which overran last night but not sure if this is the cause of all of the cancellations or if there’s also capacity reductions).

On top of that, Aer Lingus cancellations to Munich, Gatwick, Lyon & Bordeaux.


BA new schedule is between 2-4 daily flights to LHR down from 6-8.
 
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Re: Irish 7/22: Sunshine and Neos

Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:34 am

OA260 wrote:
Aside from the main issue the number of times you read people checking in their medication is unreal.


There was another fairly extreme example recently: https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/i-a ... 26520.html

I feel sorry for her obviously, but you should never pack anything in checked luggage you can't afford to lose. Especially something that sentimental and irreplaceable.

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