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evanb
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:32 am

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Yes, it didn't work well. There were some classic faults that I don't understand how Accenture got so wrong. For example, why do Australian residents need to scan a vaccination certificate since your passport is already tied to your international vaccination certificate? Why do you need to take a photo of your passport page given you also scan the built-in chip? Surely one or the other is sufficient. Why doesn't it remember basic details? I have returned to Australia 4 times this year and have to re-enter the same basic details each month; that is daft.

The manual card did need replacing. For some reason, they have never reformatted it for years despite it never having enough space for names longer than 15 characters or most email addresses...go figure!! It is just that, once again, Australia has decided it knows best and started from scratch rather than just copying or buying someone else's solution.


I think you have your answer there ... Accenture :lol: Honestly, it's a big thing that is wrong with Australian government procurement. That these deals inevitably go to large multinational firms that are less responsive and adaptive to producing a quality product but get it because they have the resources to have dedicated teams that specialise in procurement. They're good at getting the deals, less so at delivering quality.

I understood that the vaccine certificate is private health information, so that limited Home Affairs or Border Force accessing or keeping your health records. However, I also found the part where it could not just take across the unchanged details from your previous use to be very frustrating. Even if they wanted confirmation, it would be much easier to confirm than re-enter.

Agree on the arrival card. It's noticeable that some countries took this as the opportunity to move online (e.g. Singapore). I recognise that they still need a paper alternative for people who may wish to use it, but this could easily be app/digitally based. Also, moving online actually allows one to get more information than you can with the paper version since you are not as limited with space!
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:50 am

The VA/VFF and SQ/KF transfer program will resume on 19 July, with the rate TBA.

However the catch is that carrier surcharges will be imposed by VFF and KF from October 5. So a 3 month window before the surcharges start.

https://www.pointhacks.com.au/news/velo ... july-2022/
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:54 pm

Virgin Australia launch teases “a new era of flying”

VA's media event that was scheduled for May 27 but cancelled will now be held on Fri 22 July.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... -of-flying
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:56 pm

Sydney Airport’s (T1) new transit hotel, arrivals lounge

New hotel and lounge by Aerotel at SYD T1

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... als-lounge
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:01 pm

Link Airways (FC) are to commence direct flights between CBR and CFS from 22 September. Only two days per week and seasonal.

https://www.linkairways.com/flights/can ... fs-harbour
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:29 pm

Chipmunk1973 wrote:
Virgin Australia launch teases “a new era of flying”

VA's media event that was scheduled for May 27 but cancelled will now be held on Fri 22 July.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... -of-flying


New era of flying? Brand refresh? Refreshed livery, uniform, cabins? Seems like now might be a good time to showcase the new VA? I like the VA brand, but could do with a bit more… depth? Not sure

Has to be big, and not too gimmicky if they are hyping it this much and have pushed it back?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:47 pm

Chipmunk1973 wrote:
Virgin Australia launch teases “a new era of flying”

VA's media event that was scheduled for May 27 but cancelled will now be held on Fri 22 July.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... -of-flying


(Cough) Star Alliance (cough).
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:55 am

Fuling wrote:
Chipmunk1973 wrote:
Virgin Australia launch teases “a new era of flying”

VA's media event that was scheduled for May 27 but cancelled will now be held on Fri 22 July.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... -of-flying


(Cough) Star Alliance (cough).


Not holding my breath, slim chances but fingers crossed. They could be a regional partner at least.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:56 am

smi0006 wrote:

New era of flying? Brand refresh? Refreshed livery, uniform, cabins? Seems like now might be a good time to showcase the new VA? I like the VA brand, but could do with a bit more… depth? Not sure

Has to be big, and not too gimmicky if they are hyping it this much and have pushed it back?


I'd have to agree. They have somewhat hyped it up - it has to be big (ish) else they run the risk of under delivering and/or people likening it to celebrating the opening of an envelope!

Really interested to see what it is
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:00 am

Velocity7 wrote:
smi0006 wrote:

New era of flying? Brand refresh? Refreshed livery, uniform, cabins? Seems like now might be a good time to showcase the new VA? I like the VA brand, but could do with a bit more… depth? Not sure

Has to be big, and not too gimmicky if they are hyping it this much and have pushed it back?


I'd have to agree. They have somewhat hyped it up - it has to be big (ish) else they run the risk of under delivering and/or people likening it to celebrating the opening of an envelope!

Really interested to see what it is

Journalists are notoriously easy to please particularly when it is accompanied by a free air ticket and free food and booze. GT will be excited to receive his invitation but the general public is not really holding its breath about these type of things.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:07 am

Fuling wrote:
Chipmunk1973 wrote:
Virgin Australia launch teases “a new era of flying”

VA's media event that was scheduled for May 27 but cancelled will now be held on Fri 22 July.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... -of-flying


(Cough) Star Alliance (cough).


Considering the main event was focused on a unique 'gram'-able event, I'm not sure how taking photos of a Star Alliance partnership will be the focus here.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:09 am

Velocity7 wrote:
smi0006 wrote:

New era of flying? Brand refresh? Refreshed livery, uniform, cabins? Seems like now might be a good time to showcase the new VA? I like the VA brand, but could do with a bit more… depth? Not sure

Has to be big, and not too gimmicky if they are hyping it this much and have pushed it back?


I'd have to agree. They have somewhat hyped it up - it has to be big (ish) else they run the risk of under delivering and/or people likening it to celebrating the opening of an envelope!

Really interested to see what it is


It wouldn't be surprising if it's something not as big as it's hyped, such as allowing dogs/cats on planes. That would be similar to a QF announcement where it ended up them announcing toasters in a Tasmanian QF lounge.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:19 am

SCFlyer wrote:
Velocity7 wrote:
smi0006 wrote:

New era of flying? Brand refresh? Refreshed livery, uniform, cabins? Seems like now might be a good time to showcase the new VA? I like the VA brand, but could do with a bit more… depth? Not sure

Has to be big, and not too gimmicky if they are hyping it this much and have pushed it back?


I'd have to agree. They have somewhat hyped it up - it has to be big (ish) else they run the risk of under delivering and/or people likening it to celebrating the opening of an envelope!

Really interested to see what it is


It wouldn't be surprising if it's something not as big as it's hyped, such as allowing dogs/cats on planes. That would be similar to a QF announcement where it ended up them announcing toasters in a Tasmanian QF lounge.


oh please no!
(and good comparison with the toaster in the Hobart lounge)
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:14 am

Obzerva wrote:
SCFlyer wrote:
Velocity7 wrote:

I'd have to agree. They have somewhat hyped it up - it has to be big (ish) else they run the risk of under delivering and/or people likening it to celebrating the opening of an envelope!

Really interested to see what it is


It wouldn't be surprising if it's something not as big as it's hyped, such as allowing dogs/cats on planes. That would be similar to a QF announcement where it ended up them announcing toasters in a Tasmanian QF lounge.


oh please no!
(and good comparison with the toaster in the Hobart lounge)


Actually good point - focus is on instagram, so must be something visual, that can be photographed or experienced? Maybe a partnership outside of aviation?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:42 am

QR adding an additional DOH-MEL-CBR flight.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... ne-flights

DOH-MEL becomes double daily.

This will make it more difficult for EY to move back to a double daily out of MEL you would think.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:15 am

Obzerva wrote:
QR adding an additional DOH-MEL-CBR flight.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... ne-flights

DOH-MEL becomes double daily.

This will make it more difficult for EY to move back to a double daily out of MEL you would think.


Interesting that they are not pushing Sydney back to double daily! The CBR tag is just the ‘cost of doing business’ under the current ASA, but I’m really intrigued why they are picking MEL over SYD this time around.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:19 am

qf2048 wrote:
Link Airways (FC) are to commence direct flights between CBR and CFS from 22 September. Only two days per week and seasonal.

https://www.linkairways.com/flights/can ... fs-harbour


If they’re doing CBR-CFS, I’m surprised they haven’t brought CBR-BNK back. QantasLink put on a Q400, pushed FC off the route, and then quietly walked away themselves. I suppose BNK made more sense when OOL was effectively closed off by the Queensland border.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:29 am

RyanairGuru wrote:
Obzerva wrote:
QR adding an additional DOH-MEL-CBR flight.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... ne-flights

DOH-MEL becomes double daily.

This will make it more difficult for EY to move back to a double daily out of MEL you would think.


Interesting that they are not pushing Sydney back to double daily! The CBR tag is just the ‘cost of doing business’ under the current ASA, but I’m really intrigued why they are picking MEL over SYD this time around.


Article suggests the Vic gov may have provided an incentive.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:34 am

RyanairGuru wrote:
Obzerva wrote:
QR adding an additional DOH-MEL-CBR flight.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... ne-flights

DOH-MEL becomes double daily.

This will make it more difficult for EY to move back to a double daily out of MEL you would think.


Interesting that they are not pushing Sydney back to double daily! The CBR tag is just the ‘cost of doing business’ under the current ASA, but I’m really intrigued why they are picking MEL over SYD this time around.


I'll put it down to SYD curfew! It'll depart MEL for DOH at 1:30am, well after 11pm SYD curfew!
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:35 am

Obzerva wrote:
SCFlyer wrote:
Velocity7 wrote:

I'd have to agree. They have somewhat hyped it up - it has to be big (ish) else they run the risk of under delivering and/or people likening it to celebrating the opening of an envelope!

Really interested to see what it is


It wouldn't be surprising if it's something not as big as it's hyped, such as allowing dogs/cats on planes. That would be similar to a QF announcement where it ended up them announcing toasters in a Tasmanian QF lounge.


oh please no!
(and good comparison with the toaster in the Hobart lounge)


Is there a link to said toaster announcement?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:52 am

qf2220 wrote:
Obzerva wrote:
SCFlyer wrote:

It wouldn't be surprising if it's something not as big as it's hyped, such as allowing dogs/cats on planes. That would be similar to a QF announcement where it ended up them announcing toasters in a Tasmanian QF lounge.


oh please no!
(and good comparison with the toaster in the Hobart lounge)


Is there a link to said toaster announcement?


the internet never forgets - 2nd paragraph
https://www.executivetraveller.com/hoba ... ets-a-lift
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:52 am

Obzerva wrote:
QR adding an additional DOH-MEL-CBR flight.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... ne-flights

DOH-MEL becomes double daily.

This will make it more difficult for EY to move back to a double daily out of MEL you would think.


Not really, they currently have a split schedule and EK currently is only 2 daily instead of 3 previously so they can easily flex up.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:55 am

kriskim wrote:
Obzerva wrote:
QR adding an additional DOH-MEL-CBR flight.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... ne-flights

DOH-MEL becomes double daily.

This will make it more difficult for EY to move back to a double daily out of MEL you would think.


Not really, they currently have a split schedule and EK currently is only 2 daily instead of 3 previously so they can easily flex up.


I was more thinking tapping the VA Velocity base for long haul flights.
Previously this was EY and SQ for long haul to Europe.
With QR now becoming a partner, and having double daily, it will shift some of that base from EY on to QR.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:04 am

Considering EY are listed as a 'secondary partner' on VA's partners page, it's no surprise that QR are trying to move in by implementing their big plans for their VA partnership.

Although, EY are trying to keep their fighting spirit to remain relevant in VA with this recent announced competition.
https://competitions.virginaustralia.co ... y-in-style

EY are also trying to retain VA customers from defecting to QR by opening their own EY/VA page.
https://flights.etihad.com/en-au/veloci ... ity-points
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:17 am

smi0006 wrote:
New era of flying? Brand refresh? Refreshed livery, uniform, cabins? Seems like now might be a good time to showcase the new VA? I like the VA brand, but could do with a bit more… depth? Not sure

Has to be big, and not too gimmicky if they are hyping it this much and have pushed it back?



Fuling wrote:

(Cough) Star Alliance (cough).


You don't have to look far on the internet to find rumours about VA's upcoming announcement. The most common include:
* Star Alliance
* B737MAX8 reveal (ala QF and the A350)
* New Y & J cabin reveals
* Toasters on board (sorry, couldn't resist :duck: :rotfl: )

Cheers
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:19 am

Obzerva wrote:
QR adding an additional DOH-MEL-CBR flight.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... ne-flights

DOH-MEL becomes double daily.

This will make it more difficult for EY to move back to a double daily out of MEL you would think.


Maybe the A380 will stick around on their DOH-SYD to make up for the lost capacity?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:23 am

Fuling wrote:
(Cough) Star Alliance (cough).


I don't think Bain are into the vanity project that Virgin Australia used to be. They're not flying to LA and getting A330s for PER flights to make them feel like big boys, so I doubt they they're looking at joining an alliance that has marginal benefits for them at great cost. They're doing a good job at building a strong network of bilateral partnerships with UA, SQ, AN, AC, HA, QR and EY, several of which are not Star members. I'd expect this list to grow. Being independent gives them far more flexibility to seek out bilateral partnerships. It's a totally different calculus for airlines with vast and diverse long haul networks or for airlines in large integrated metal neutral joint ventures. Bain know this and have no interest in any vanity projects. Their goal is to maximise the valuation for IPO so they can make a nice capital gain.

What would Star Alliance membership bring them? It wouldn't bring NZ to the table! They've already set their store. They decided that a very limited code share with QF was more beneficial than a wide ranging and far more comprehensive partnership with VA. I don't think anything has changed in this regard.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:25 am

Just noticed on Flightradar UL606 flying TRV-SYD. Don't think that a regular flight?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:32 am

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Just noticed on Flightradar UL606 flying TRV-SYD. Don't think that a regular flight?


It's flying CMB-TRV-SYD. No fuel in CMB, so routing via TRV to pick up fuel.

Edit: It's affecting most flights out of CMB. Shorter flights like DXB, SIN and DEL are able to tanker enough in, but no chance on long haul.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:37 am

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Just noticed on Flightradar UL606 flying TRV-SYD. Don't think that a regular flight?

I believe some of the flights are going via Thiruvananthapuram due to fuel shortages in Colombo.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:39 am

They're doing a good job at building a strong network of bilateral partnerships with UA, SQ, AN, AC, HA, QR and EY, several of which are not Star members.


WOW!!! That's a surprise addition to their partners. :box:
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:40 am

evanb wrote:
RyanairGuru wrote:
Obzerva wrote:
QR adding an additional DOH-MEL-CBR flight.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... ne-flights

DOH-MEL becomes double daily.

This will make it more difficult for EY to move back to a double daily out of MEL you would think.


Interesting that they are not pushing Sydney back to double daily! The CBR tag is just the ‘cost of doing business’ under the current ASA, but I’m really intrigued why they are picking MEL over SYD this time around.


I'll put it down to SYD curfew! It'll depart MEL for DOH at 1:30am, well after 11pm SYD curfew!


The schedule in the article linked above says it arrives CBR 0150 departs 1430, departs MEL 1715. Perhaps their other MEL flight departs MEL at 0130? Surprised they park at CBR for so long, how are they crewing that?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:28 am

evanb wrote:
Fuling wrote:
(Cough) Star Alliance (cough).


I don't think Bain are into the vanity project that Virgin Australia used to be. They're not flying to LA and getting A330s for PER flights to make them feel like big boys, so I doubt they they're looking at joining an alliance that has marginal benefits for them at great cost. They're doing a good job at building a strong network of bilateral partnerships with UA, SQ, AN, AC, HA, QR and EY, several of which are not Star members. I'd expect this list to grow. Being independent gives them far more flexibility to seek out bilateral partnerships. It's a totally different calculus for airlines with vast and diverse long haul networks or for airlines in large integrated metal neutral joint ventures. Bain know this and have no interest in any vanity projects. Their goal is to maximise the valuation for IPO so they can make a nice capital gain.

What would Star Alliance membership bring them? It wouldn't bring NZ to the table! They've already set their store. They decided that a very limited code share with QF was more beneficial than a wide ranging and far more comprehensive partnership with VA. I don't think anything has changed in this regard.


Well VA hasn’t returned back to the Tasman yet, so could be possible. If NZ wants to play nice is another question.

One of NZ’s breakup points with VA was there move away from there LCC model.

Now VA is back to LCC / Unbundled model, that does put there product back more in line with NZ on short-haul.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:48 am

Considering VA isn't willing to re-enter Joint-Ventures anytime soon, any (unlikely) partnership across the Tasman will likely be just a simple codeshare and FF deal, like most of their partnerships post-Bankruptcy exit.

There should also be no problems with the ACCC or the CCNZ as it'll be a simple codeshare/FF deal as opposed to applying as a JV. That's how the QF/NZ domestic codeshare partnership got off the ground, plus QF/NZ informed the respective bodies that they are still competing on the TransTasman sectors.

VA of course will want to negotiate their cut of the fare in a codeshare partnership, which is probably peanuts to the partner and at the same time puts most of the operating costs on the partner (as opposed to JVs where they share 50/50 of the operating costs).
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:50 am

ZK-NBT wrote:
evanb wrote:
RyanairGuru wrote:

Interesting that they are not pushing Sydney back to double daily! The CBR tag is just the ‘cost of doing business’ under the current ASA, but I’m really intrigued why they are picking MEL over SYD this time around.


I'll put it down to SYD curfew! It'll depart MEL for DOH at 1:30am, well after 11pm SYD curfew!


The schedule in the article linked above says it arrives CBR 0150 departs 1430, departs MEL 1715. Perhaps their other MEL flight departs MEL at 0130? Surprised they park at CBR for so long, how are they crewing that?


It actually departs DOH at 1:30am,
Unfortunately it seems QR have gone all 777 from MEL, not the best experience in Y compared to 380/350s they’ve often used on the route.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:14 am

Apologies, I didn’t bother to read the ET article before.

The schedule CBR-MEL-DOH is broadly similar to the old CBR-SYD-DOH, but the schedule from DOH is a real head scratcher. QR might have reworked their banks during the past two years, but based on the pre-Covid schedule that 01:30 departure wouldn’t have aligned with their two main Europe banks.

ZK-NBT wrote:

The schedule in the article linked above says it arrives CBR 0150 departs 1430, departs MEL 1715. Perhaps their other MEL flight departs MEL at 0130? Surprised they park at CBR for so long, how are they crewing that?


I know the ME3 have a reputation for punishing pilot schedules, is there a chance they’re crewing DOH-MEL-CBR /12 hours slip/ CBR-MEL-DOH? For flight attendants at least I’m fairly certain they could get away with that under their (lack of) work rules.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:42 am

Some sort of QF charter routing BNE-AKL-LAS as QF 311. A332 VH-EBR

Flight centre maybe?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:49 am

ZK-NBT wrote:
Some sort of QF charter routing BNE-AKL-LAS as QF 311. A332 VH-EBR

Flight centre maybe?


Pretty sure it’s Flight Centre.

First time that Global has happened since 2019.
 
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Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:27 am

evanb wrote:
RyanairGuru wrote:
Obzerva wrote:
QR adding an additional DOH-MEL-CBR flight.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... ne-flights

DOH-MEL becomes double daily.

This will make it more difficult for EY to move back to a double daily out of MEL you would think.


Interesting that they are not pushing Sydney back to double daily! The CBR tag is just the ‘cost of doing business’ under the current ASA, but I’m really intrigued why they are picking MEL over SYD this time around.


I'll put it down to SYD curfew! It'll depart MEL for DOH at 1:30am, well after 11pm SYD curfew!

I’d say the curfew is irrelevant considering the 2nd SYD daily was a morning arrival and afternoon departure.
Most likely due the A380 hanging around on the DOH-SYD.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:53 am

RyanairGuru wrote:
ZK-NBT wrote:
Some sort of QF charter routing BNE-AKL-LAS as QF 311. A332 VH-EBR

Flight centre maybe?


Pretty sure it’s Flight Centre.

First time that Global has happened since 2019.


Yep, Flight Centre, was originally scheduled for SIN, but was relocated to LAS.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:56 am

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evanb wrote:
RyanairGuru wrote:

Interesting that they are not pushing Sydney back to double daily! The CBR tag is just the ‘cost of doing business’ under the current ASA, but I’m really intrigued why they are picking MEL over SYD this time around.


I'll put it down to SYD curfew! It'll depart MEL for DOH at 1:30am, well after 11pm SYD curfew!

I’d say the curfew is irrelevant considering the 2nd SYD daily was a morning arrival and afternoon departure.
Most likely due the A380 hanging around on the DOH-SYD.


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And also reports that both the Victorian State and ACT Territory governments offered incentives/taxpayer subsidies under their Aviation Attraction Investment Fund (AAIF)/Reconnecting (State) fund equivalents.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:59 am

Obzerva wrote:
RyanairGuru wrote:
ZK-NBT wrote:
Some sort of QF charter routing BNE-AKL-LAS as QF 311. A332 VH-EBR

Flight centre maybe?


Pretty sure it’s Flight Centre.

First time that Global has happened since 2019.


Yep, Flight Centre, was originally scheduled for SIN, but was relocated to LAS.



Thanks. Have QF run them before? NZ ran flight centre charters BNE-LAS on 744s a decade ago, possibly on 772s once the 744s retired?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:24 am

ZK-NBT wrote:
Obzerva wrote:
RyanairGuru wrote:

Pretty sure it’s Flight Centre.

First time that Global has happened since 2019.


Yep, Flight Centre, was originally scheduled for SIN, but was relocated to LAS.



Thanks. Have QF run them before? NZ ran flight centre charters BNE-LAS on 744s a decade ago, possibly on 772s once the 744s retired?


I can’t recall if QF have, I recall VA and EY have ex Australia before. They’ve also used CX to/from MFM before as well.

Pretty sure they’ve used VS ex London before and have used an Atlas 747 before from CUN to LAX before (to connect pax to outbound LAX flights back to Australia.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:55 am

First Bonza 737MAX now fully painted

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:29 am

Wow, an actual plane. No longer an imaginary airline.
 
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Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:34 am

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First Bonza 737MAX now fully painted

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For an LCC I really like it, I like their logo. Let’s see how their operation goes
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:04 am

RyanairGuru wrote:
Apologies, I didn’t bother to read the ET article before.

The schedule CBR-MEL-DOH is broadly similar to the old CBR-SYD-DOH, but the schedule from DOH is a real head scratcher. QR might have reworked their banks during the past two years, but based on the pre-Covid schedule that 01:30 departure wouldn’t have aligned with their two main Europe banks.


pre-COVID and now the main European arrival banks for QR were early evening (1600-1800) and late night (2200-0000). There was a smaller bank arriving in Doha in the morning that aligned with the previous second daily to SYD but post COVID it is quite small, the reason why the second SYD departed DOH in the morning and not with the busier late night bank was the curfew at SYD.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:50 am

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First Bonza 737MAX now fully painted

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https://twitter.com/bfi_watch_ca350/sta ... z9LF6IthTg


Not quite… that Winglet is still LOT ;) . Does look good though.

Speaking of paint, some VA branding recently has switched the red and white. One school of thought on the “new era” is red tails and white Virgin on the tails similar to VS.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:54 am

Catching up on a bit of news:

QF "Seamless Transfer" bus at SYD now returning to pre-pandemic operations from T1 to T3 airside (previous "Seamless Lite" dropped off before security at check-in counters).
https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... -holidays/

Jetstar Asia (3K) discontinues SIN-DRW service effective 6 Aug:
https://ntindependent.com.au/vital-conn ... ore-route/
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2022

Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:03 pm

ZK-NBT wrote:
Obzerva wrote:
RyanairGuru wrote:

Pretty sure it’s Flight Centre.

First time that Global has happened since 2019.


Yep, Flight Centre, was originally scheduled for SIN, but was relocated to LAS.



Thanks. Have QF run them before? NZ ran flight centre charters BNE-LAS on 744s a decade ago, possibly on 772s once the 744s retired?


QF operated the HNL charter, which IIRC was 2017.

EY operated SXF in 2018.

Where was 2019? It’s completely escaped me.

NZ did do LAS last time, along with CUN. CX operated MFM.
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