Updated: DL announce ATL-CPT/TLV, LAX-PPT

flyaa757 · Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:53 pm

I've heard that a service announcement is happening tomorrow at ATL...

- Service Resumption
- International
- Widebody

Wneast · Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:56 pm

Is it one route ?

jbs2886 · Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:59 pm

CPT? Given that UA just “announced” it although we knew it was coming. Don’t know if CPT is a resumption though.

reednavy · Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:01 pm

If it's a resumption, is it really that "big"?

kavok · Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:49 pm

ATL-STR?

Delta28L · Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:51 pm

LATAM since they just got approval for their JV with Delta?

LHLX · Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:52 pm

TLV on DL?

burnsie28 · Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:55 pm

kavok wrote:
ATL-STR?

STR is already in the schedule for next summer.

What's still missing is DUS

TryToFlySomeday · Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:57 pm

Here's a fun idea: they make a go at ATL-DEL.

x1234 · Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:59 pm

China Eastern PVG-ATL?

TryToFlySomeday · Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:00 pm

x1234 wrote:
China Eastern PVG-ATL?

My guess is that unless China - US relations go "back to normal", probably not. It's probably CPT, my comment about DEL was made as a joke.

TWA772LR · Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:09 pm

EK?
DL to AKL or SYD or BER?
LATAM?

flyaa757 · Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:11 pm

Just one AFAIK, and we have a bingo in one of the comments above. And considering it’s a net addition to ATL on a WB, I’d call it a win.

777Mech · Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:26 pm

Most likely formally announcing ATL-CPT.

CaptainLeo · Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:41 pm

Are we only looking at ATL? Rumblings about LAX-PPT being finalized and starting in December.

Polot · Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:47 pm

TryToFlySomeday wrote:
Here's a fun idea: they make a go at ATL-DEL.

I’m not sure DL has a suitable plane to operate that route when you take into account Russian airspace avoidance.

Boeing757100 · Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:52 pm

Polot wrote:
TryToFlySomeday wrote:
Here's a fun idea: they make a go at ATL-DEL.

I’m not sure DL has a suitable plane to operate that route when you take into account Russian airspace diversion.

I would LOVE an India route from ATL on DL. But, like Polot said, Russia/Afghanistan airspace restrictions make it hard. But ATL-DEL is a good bit shorter than ATL-BOM/HYD/MAA so if anything maybe DEL will happen first.

My personal guesses are

- CPT
- additional frequencies to LHR/CDG/FRA/big cities in europe

Personal wishes are

-BOM or DEL (MAA in my dreams)
- Return to DXB

Boeing757100 · Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:55 pm

TWA772LR wrote:
EK?
DL to AKL or SYD or BER?
LATAM?

EK (or DL resuming ATL-DXB) actually seems somewhat possible, but I think most of Oceania is very far of reach for most anything in DL's fleet. ATL-SYD is a good 15000km which is about the range of an A350-900 but if winds change, I think that could be trouble. Not to mention they can't carry with full payload or any meaningful cargo.

LATAM I wouldn't count out either but I think DL may want to see how JFK-BER does before thinking of ATL.

Boeing757100 · Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:02 pm

reednavy wrote:
If it's a resumption, is it really that "big"?

It could be a big resumption, like ATL-DXB (which would certainly be "Big") or ATL-BOM which hasn't operated since October 2009. Don't think the latter's likely because of Russian airspace.

rjbesikof · Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:04 pm

Here are my guesses in order from most logical to least logical:
-DL ATL-CPT
-DL ATL-TLV
-DL ATL-AMM
-LA ATL-GRU

rjbesikof · Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:06 pm

Boeing757100 wrote:
TWA772LR wrote:
EK?
DL to AKL or SYD or BER?
LATAM?

EK (or DL resuming ATL-DXB) actually seems somewhat possible, but I think most of Oceania is very far of reach for most anything in DL's fleet. ATL-SYD is a good 15000km which is about the range of an A350-900 but if winds change, I think that could be trouble. Not to mention they can't carry with full payload or any meaningful cargo.

LATAM I wouldn't count out either but I think DL may want to see how JFK-BER does before thinking of ATL.

UA announced IAD-BER in October 2021 before they resumed EWR-BER in March 2022

Boeing757100 · Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:10 pm

rjbesikof wrote:
Here are my guesses in order from most logical to least logical:
-DL ATL-CPT
-DL ATL-TLV
-DL ATL-AMM
-LA ATL-GRU

I think the "announcement" meant "resumption" so I don't know if ATL-CPT was ever operated nonstop before, so I don't know if it's that. Certainly could be ATL-TLV because that did operate before (and could still make sense). I'd say latam is more likely than AMM because Royal Jordaninan is Oneworld and DL would have no partners in AMM.

Guessing off of "resumption" my main guesses are ATL-TLV or DXB, and to a stretch BOM (but that is arguably the least likely). CPT is happening but it might be separate from this.

sfojvjets · Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:16 pm

CaptainLeo wrote:
Are we only looking at ATL? Rumblings about LAX-PPT being finalized and starting in December.

Interesting. Is there a reason they want to fly it on their own metal versus AF's existing LAX-PPT service? Shouldn't the DL-VS-AF/KL JV cover LAX-PPT? Doesn't make much sense to me...

DLHAM · Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:17 pm

Very much hoping for ATL-HAM but I doubt this would be considered a "big" announcement. Would still make sense for Delta ...

Boeing757100 · Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:19 pm

DLHAM wrote:
Very much hoping for ATL-HAM but I doubt this would be considered a "big" announcement. Would still make sense for Delta ...

True, didn't they just reinstate STR? Then HAM would be a great addition

DLHAM · Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:21 pm

Boeing757100 wrote:
DLHAM wrote:
Very much hoping for ATL-HAM but I doubt this would be considered a "big" announcement. Would still make sense for Delta ...

True, didn't they just reinstate STR? Then HAM would be a great addition

Yes ATL-STR will restart in March (initially planned for this October). No mentioning of DUS at all ... But there is no law that says DUS has to return at all only because it was served before COVID. I can absolutely see new Destinations ...

Boeing757100 · Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:27 pm

flyaa757 wrote:
I've heard that a service announcement is happening tomorrow at ATL...

- Service Resumption
- International
- Widebody

Before we go any further on speculation, where exactly did you hear about this? Is it on a website or was it mentioned in a call or something?

PSU.DTW.SCE · Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:31 pm

A Friday announcement is typical for DL since they load all of their schedule changes over the weekends and typically issue press releases in advance, otherwise all the internet sites and bloggers would “break the news”.

PSU.DTW.SCE · Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:34 pm

Fwiw there is a lot of stuff out there that DL hasn’t exactly gone big on PR that’s resuming in 2023. Like ATL-STR, DTW-FCO.

Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a packaged summary of a bunch of route resumptions for 2023.

CaptainLeo · Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:47 pm

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
Fwiw there is a lot of stuff out there that DL hasn’t exactly gone big on PR that’s resuming in 2023. Like ATL-STR, DTW-FCO.

Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a packaged summary of a bunch of route resumptions for 2023.

This is my thought too. I don't think it's only going to be 1 route announcement from ATL. It seems like it'll be a packaged deal with a big press release. Guess we'll find out tomorrow.

by738 · Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:53 pm

what about the ill-fated previous attempts at ATL-EDI… summer only 763 lots of connection opportunities? could maybe ditch BOS instead.

Jano · Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:54 pm

Whatever it is, it would be nice if PRG returned back.

airlineworker · Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:58 pm

Hoping for ATL-HVN. Would round out the service Avelo provides. A man can dream can't he?

MIflyer12 · Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:31 pm

DLHAM wrote:
Very much hoping for ATL-HAM but I doubt this would be considered a "big" announcement. Would still make sense for Delta ...

When did DL last fly ATL-HAM? I remember flying it in early 1998. 767-300ER, of course.

I don't even know what would properly count as a 'big' announcement at an airport the size of ATL. Routes come and go all the time.

jbs2886 · Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:36 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
DLHAM wrote:
Very much hoping for ATL-HAM but I doubt this would be considered a "big" announcement. Would still make sense for Delta ...

When did DL last fly ATL-HAM? I remember flying it in early 1998. 767-300ER, of course.

I don't even know what would properly count as a 'big' announcement at an airport the size of ATL. Routes come and go all the time.

DL just isn't huge in Germany, although they are adding BER back apparently.

Definitely true comment on what is "big" for ATL? IMO, ULH or even anything other than short-haul and Europe. So I'd say South Africa or Asia (unlikely tomorrow) could be big. TLV, possibly.

DLvsWN · Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:45 pm

Rebuilding the Mexico network (QRO, BJX, MID) with AM would sure be nice.

jbs2886 · Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:53 pm

DLvsWN wrote:
Rebuilding the Mexico network (QRO, BJX, MID) with AM would sure be nice.

...with widebodies? Nevertheless, that would be good to see.

luckyone · Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:49 pm

DLHAM wrote:
Very much hoping for ATL-HAM but I doubt this would be considered a "big" announcement. Would still make sense for Delta ...

Hamburg is a cool city. But it hasn’t sustained a US carrier since well before the pandemic, so I doubt this would make sense.

N292UX · Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:08 am

Going with ATL-TLV considering there's been a lot of US adds to TLV in recent years and ATL is not among them (yet)

Airlinerdude · Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:47 am

jbs2886 wrote:
CPT? Given that UA just “announced” it although we knew it was coming. Don’t know if CPT is a resumption though.

CPT was served via DKR back on the 763 until sometime in mid-2009.

https://www.aviacionline.com/2022/02/de ... cape-town/

I believe you're right - likely CPT considering that:

In a tentative ruling, Delta and United have therefore each been allocated three weekly frequencies between the US and South Africa, thereby allowing them to launch their respective ALT-CPT and IAD-CPT routes.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/br ... wn-rights/

flyaa757 · Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:47 am

International, wide body, resumption..

bfitzflyer · Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:11 am

CPT 90 percent if not higher likelihood. For kicks with latam jv bsb and Mao. Which I believe were both previously served from atl.

Boeing757100 · Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:37 am

bfitzflyer wrote:
CPT 90 percent if not higher likelihood. For kicks with latam jv bsb and Mao. Which I believe were both previously served from atl.

Agreed but I don't think nonstop ATL-CPT was ever a thing. AFAIK it was from their short lived hub in DKR before they got the 777-200LRs.

Atlwarrior · Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:01 am

Would love to see ATL to TLV back.

ScottB · Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:06 am

MIflyer12 wrote:
I don't even know what would properly count as a 'big' announcement at an airport the size of ATL. Routes come and go all the time.

In the current political environment, a "big" route announcement for ATL would be something to sub-Saharan Africa. I don't think ATL-LOS is coming back anytime soon due to issues with convertibility of naira, so it would seem ATL-CPT is the logical answer.

IceCream · Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:19 am

Another one of these threads which will probably have completely off and crazy suggestions, but entertaining nonetheless.

9252fly · Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:21 am

It will be anticlimactic when they announce CPT.

AntonioMartin · Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:52 am

Eastern returns with service to La Paz..... :lol:

tootallsd · Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:55 am

Bus service to Macon?

N312RC · Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:08 am

ScottB wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:
I don't even know what would properly count as a 'big' announcement at an airport the size of ATL. Routes come and go all the time.

In the current political environment, a "big" route announcement for ATL would be something to sub-Saharan Africa. I don't think ATL-LOS is coming back anytime soon due to issues with convertibility of naira, so it would seem ATL-CPT is the logical answer.

Uhhh, ATL LOS is in the air right now. DL54.

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