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SCFlyer wrote:Bonza's VH-UJT (AB001) 737-8 had just landed at MCY over an hour ago.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vh-ujt
Goodbye wrote:
I'd be very surprised if VA went for a Qantas-style tail which wouldn't stand out at a Qantas-heavy airport such as SYD or MEL.
Goodbye wrote:
I'd be very surprised if VA went for a Qantas-style tail which wouldn't stand out at a Qantas-heavy airport such as SYD or MEL.
Chipmunk1973 wrote:SYD T3 now has "3D" Scanners:
https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... as-flights
I'm surprised it states that belts still require removal. Never had to remove a belt in DRW.
Cheers.
Goodbye wrote:
I'd be very surprised if VA went for a Qantas-style tail which wouldn't stand out at a Qantas-heavy airport such as SYD or MEL.
NTLDaz wrote:
Newcastle has had them for quite a while. Last time I went through was the first time I didn't need to remove my belt. But then I had to undo it for an inspection after going through.
a320fan wrote:Goodbye wrote:
I'd be very surprised if VA went for a Qantas-style tail which wouldn't stand out at a Qantas-heavy airport such as SYD or MEL.
Where did this render come from? Looks terrible, as it’s no different from the current livery other than the colour strip, which ruins the clean and minimalist simplicity of what they’ve got, and makes them just look more like QF. Oh a 737 with a red tail is flying over, is it VA or QF??
qf789 wrote:Virgin has swapped from 738 to A320 on PER-HBA, not a great surprise as J has always not sold well on this route
CostaDelSol90 wrote:This is just a random render someone did at home and then posted on Facebook. It’s not the design.
Velocity7 wrote:Really heavy fog in BNE this morning. I count around 20 aircraft in various holding patterns waiting for it to clear. Departures not effected it seems. No doubt will have some knock effects during the day
And BAC advised via their FB page last night that the legacy runway (19L/1R) is closing for maintenance between 1000 and 1600 today and all traffic will use 19R/01L which will no doubt cause some further delays
sierrakilo44 wrote:Velocity7 wrote:Really heavy fog in BNE this morning. I count around 20 aircraft in various holding patterns waiting for it to clear. Departures not effected it seems. No doubt will have some knock effects during the day
And BAC advised via their FB page last night that the legacy runway (19L/1R) is closing for maintenance between 1000 and 1600 today and all traffic will use 19R/01L which will no doubt cause some further delays
Visibility down to 200m in fog. Only Sydney, Melbourne, Canberra and Perth have the ability to do low visibility approaches to be capable of landing below that.
I guess someone did the sums and figured out the cost of delays in Brisbane due to fog is less than the cost of upgrading their approach equipment.
RyanairGuru wrote:sierrakilo44 wrote:Velocity7 wrote:Really heavy fog in BNE this morning. I count around 20 aircraft in various holding patterns waiting for it to clear. Departures not effected it seems. No doubt will have some knock effects during the day
And BAC advised via their FB page last night that the legacy runway (19L/1R) is closing for maintenance between 1000 and 1600 today and all traffic will use 19R/01L which will no doubt cause some further delays
Visibility down to 200m in fog. Only Sydney, Melbourne, Canberra and Perth have the ability to do low visibility approaches to be capable of landing below that.
I guess someone did the sums and figured out the cost of delays in Brisbane due to fog is less than the cost of upgrading their approach equipment.
Pretty much. From memory, BNE averages one foggy morning per year, so additional equipment for Cat II would be costly for very little benefit.
CBR, at least, would ideally be Cat III given how common fog is there, but there is not enough traffic to justify the cost.
MEL and SYD are probably a bit closer to the margin of justifying Cat III, due to sheer volume, but don’t experience enough foggy days to justify the cost.
tullamarine wrote:CostaDelSol90 wrote:This is just a random render someone did at home and then posted on Facebook. It’s not the design.
Correct It is just a photoshop someone dreamed up. It doesn't even reflect the revised corporate logo and it is still unknown if the revised corporate logo will also lead to any sort of revised livery.
RyanairGuru wrote:
Pretty much. From memory, BNE averages one foggy morning per year, so additional equipment for Cat II would be costly for very little benefit.
jrfspa320 wrote:RyanairGuru wrote:sierrakilo44 wrote:
Visibility down to 200m in fog. Only Sydney, Melbourne, Canberra and Perth have the ability to do low visibility approaches to be capable of landing below that.
I guess someone did the sums and figured out the cost of delays in Brisbane due to fog is less than the cost of upgrading their approach equipment.
Pretty much. From memory, BNE averages one foggy morning per year, so additional equipment for Cat II would be costly for very little benefit.
CBR, at least, would ideally be Cat III given how common fog is there, but there is not enough traffic to justify the cost.
MEL and SYD are probably a bit closer to the margin of justifying Cat III, due to sheer volume, but don’t experience enough foggy days to justify the cost.
MEL and PER already have Cat 3.
a320fan wrote:Supposedly Rex is getting another 737 this month, and two more before the year is out. Anyone know where they’re coming from? Are there any exVA aircraft still looking for a home?, and if not I wonder what their plans are RE interior configuration.
tristans wrote:a320fan wrote:Supposedly Rex is getting another 737 this month, and two more before the year is out. Anyone know where they’re coming from? Are there any exVA aircraft still looking for a home?, and if not I wonder what their plans are RE interior configuration.
Not sure on interior, but the first frame is the one Samoa Airways were going to (did?) take. Currently sitting in MPL for maintenance.
https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... ing/edz6p9
I assume there are still a glut of 737s out there ready for lease.
a320fan wrote:Supposedly Rex is getting another 737 this month, and two more before the year is out. Anyone know where they’re coming from? Are there any exVA aircraft still looking for a home?, and if not I wonder what their plans are RE interior configuration.
IndianicWorld wrote:a320fan wrote:Supposedly Rex is getting another 737 this month, and two more before the year is out. Anyone know where they’re coming from? Are there any exVA aircraft still looking for a home?, and if not I wonder what their plans are RE interior configuration.
I am more interested in where they will put them. Maybe launching PER flights? More ADL services maybe.
Still seems to be hard work for Rex with their jet network.
ben175 wrote:IndianicWorld wrote:a320fan wrote:Supposedly Rex is getting another 737 this month, and two more before the year is out. Anyone know where they’re coming from? Are there any exVA aircraft still looking for a home?, and if not I wonder what their plans are RE interior configuration.
I am more interested in where they will put them. Maybe launching PER flights? More ADL services maybe.
Still seems to be hard work for Rex with their jet network.
I actually think PER makes alot of sense - not overly reliant on high frequency but still a large premium market that will easy fill 8 J seats. Airfares to SYD and MEL post-covid and post-TT have absolutely skyrocketed, so I think there's definitely room for them to shake things up.
ben175 wrote:IndianicWorld wrote:a320fan wrote:Supposedly Rex is getting another 737 this month, and two more before the year is out. Anyone know where they’re coming from? Are there any exVA aircraft still looking for a home?, and if not I wonder what their plans are RE interior configuration.
I am more interested in where they will put them. Maybe launching PER flights? More ADL services maybe.
Still seems to be hard work for Rex with their jet network.
I actually think PER makes alot of sense - not overly reliant on high frequency but still a large premium market that will easy fill 8 J seats. Airfares to SYD and MEL post-covid and post-TT have absolutely skyrocketed, so I think there's definitely room for them to shake things up.
zkncj wrote:
Both OOL/BNE have been hit hard with VA not resuming Tasman services.
Surely an OOL-AKL/CHC and BNE-AKL/CHC would be much less of a blood bath than the golden triangle.
a7ala wrote:zkncj wrote:
Both OOL/BNE have been hit hard with VA not resuming Tasman services.
Surely an OOL-AKL/CHC and BNE-AKL/CHC would be much less of a blood bath than the golden triangle.
Or even BNE-WLG which is only operated by NZ... or OOL-WLG which is a JQ monopoly
SCFlyer wrote:I'm a tad surprised that QF couldn't make OOL-AKL work, QF briefly took over from VA's absence on the route hoping to get the high yield leisure traffic, which seems to be lacking. OOL-AKL is largely a LCC route now with JQ and NZ's seat to suit model.
CostaDelSol90 wrote:They’ve already resumed Indonesia and Fiji operations and have announced the return to Honiara, Samoa and Vanuatu. They also kept the international AOC so I’d say their ownership re: international isn’t a concern. Also don’t forget that foreign airlines (EK, CI etc) have fifth freedom across the Tasman anyway so it wouldn’t matter regardless.
JQ seems to be doing OOL-AKL twice an daily some days of the week now. I wonder if it will be come a early on a321N route for them?
CostaDelSol90 wrote:They’ve already resumed Indonesia and Fiji operations and have announced the return to Honiara, Samoa and Vanuatu. They also kept the international AOC so I’d say their ownership re: international isn’t a concern. Also don’t forget that foreign airlines (EK, CI etc) have fifth freedom across the Tasman anyway so it wouldn’t matter regardless.
IndianicWorld wrote:ben175 wrote:IndianicWorld wrote:
I am more interested in where they will put them. Maybe launching PER flights? More ADL services maybe.
Still seems to be hard work for Rex with their jet network.
I actually think PER makes alot of sense - not overly reliant on high frequency but still a large premium market that will easy fill 8 J seats. Airfares to SYD and MEL post-covid and post-TT have absolutely skyrocketed, so I think there's definitely room for them to shake things up.
Tend to agree. Can see the following being an option:
MEL/SYD-PER
SYD-ADL
vhqpa wrote:CostaDelSol90 wrote:They’ve already resumed Indonesia and Fiji operations and have announced the return to Honiara, Samoa and Vanuatu. They also kept the international AOC so I’d say their ownership re: international isn’t a concern. Also don’t forget that foreign airlines (EK, CI etc) have fifth freedom across the Tasman anyway so it wouldn’t matter regardless.
My apologies I should’ve made myself clearer. I was referring to ZL in my above post.
ben175 wrote:IndianicWorld wrote:a320fan wrote:Supposedly Rex is getting another 737 this month, and two more before the year is out. Anyone know where they’re coming from? Are there any exVA aircraft still looking for a home?, and if not I wonder what their plans are RE interior configuration.
I am more interested in where they will put them. Maybe launching PER flights? More ADL services maybe.
Still seems to be hard work for Rex with their jet network.
I actually think PER makes alot of sense - not overly reliant on high frequency but still a large premium market that will easy fill 8 J seats. Airfares to SYD and MEL post-covid and post-TT have absolutely skyrocketed, so I think there's definitely room for them to shake things up.
qf789 wrote:Looks like QF flights operating BNE-PER are diverting to ADL for fuel
VA clocked 6hrs19min on a BNE-PER while a flight from SYD clocked at 5hrs32min
Wind has been pretty bad here though if you are heading eastbound you are having a quicker than average flight
jrfspa320 wrote:qf789 wrote:Looks like QF flights operating BNE-PER are diverting to ADL for fuel
VA clocked 6hrs19min on a BNE-PER while a flight from SYD clocked at 5hrs32min
Wind has been pretty bad here though if you are heading eastbound you are having a quicker than average flight
Looks like the tech stops have continued today on BNE-PER, flights times for the non stops clocking in at close to 6.30! Some of the longest transcons ive ever seen. I imagine they are going out weight restricted!
tullamarine wrote:Not to mention that VA also already fly to Queenstown. VA have decided not to return to trunk Tasman routes because they will only ever be a minor player on these routes compared with NZ and QF so will be a price-taker which is never a recipe for success. In comparison, they are in a very profitable duopoly on Australian domestic services so why would you want to channel capacity otherwise?