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Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:53 am

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:56 am

Bonza's VH-UJT (AB001) 737-8 had just landed at MCY over an hour ago.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vh-ujt
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Mon Aug 01, 2022 3:21 am

Virgin has swapped from 738 to A320 on PER-HBA, not a great surprise as J has always not sold well on this route
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:54 am

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Bonza's VH-UJT (AB001) 737-8 had just landed at MCY over an hour ago.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vh-ujt


Still can't get over their awful logo. Such a shame.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:57 am

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I'd be very surprised if VA went for a Qantas-style tail which wouldn't stand out at a Qantas-heavy airport such as SYD or MEL.
 
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Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:06 am

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I'd be very surprised if VA went for a Qantas-style tail which wouldn't stand out at a Qantas-heavy airport such as SYD or MEL.


Tail looks like airasia
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Mon Aug 01, 2022 7:02 am

SYD T3 now has "3D" Scanners:

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... as-flights

I'm surprised it states that belts still require removal. Never had to remove a belt in DRW.

Cheers.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Mon Aug 01, 2022 7:08 am

Goodbye wrote:
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I'd be very surprised if VA went for a Qantas-style tail which wouldn't stand out at a Qantas-heavy airport such as SYD or MEL.


Can't say I'm a fan of that. The "fat" font style of the tail goes against the simple, clean lines of "Virgin Australia"; not a good match. Seems like one person designed the front and another did the back. Surely they're capable of something better and possibly uniquely Australian.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Mon Aug 01, 2022 7:12 am

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SYD T3 now has "3D" Scanners:

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... as-flights

I'm surprised it states that belts still require removal. Never had to remove a belt in DRW.

Cheers.


Newcastle has had them for quite a while. Last time I went through was the first time I didn't need to remove my belt. But then I had to undo it for an inspection after going through.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:57 am

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I'd be very surprised if VA went for a Qantas-style tail which wouldn't stand out at a Qantas-heavy airport such as SYD or MEL.

Where did this render come from? Looks terrible, as it’s no different from the current livery other than the colour strip, which ruins the clean and minimalist simplicity of what they’ve got, and makes them just look more like QF. Oh a 737 with a red tail is flying over, is it VA or QF??
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:18 am

NTLDaz wrote:

Newcastle has had them for quite a while. Last time I went through was the first time I didn't need to remove my belt. But then I had to undo it for an inspection after going through.


Only thing they pulled me up for in DRW was having tissues in my pocket, which I'd forgotten about. I thought it kind of weird that would be the trigger for the scanner.

But it is great they are making the airside check-in uniform across the country.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:27 am

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Goodbye wrote:
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I'd be very surprised if VA went for a Qantas-style tail which wouldn't stand out at a Qantas-heavy airport such as SYD or MEL.

Where did this render come from? Looks terrible, as it’s no different from the current livery other than the colour strip, which ruins the clean and minimalist simplicity of what they’ve got, and makes them just look more like QF. Oh a 737 with a red tail is flying over, is it VA or QF??


I wish I was good at Photoshop. But I'd like to see "virgin australia" done in a deep purple colour, with a black "virgin" over a white background across the VTP.



https://www.johnsonbanks.co.uk/content/ ... -1line.jpg

https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/ToCJJ ... ogo_lg.jpg

Sorry, done a bad post of trying to post pics :/

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:02 am

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Virgin has swapped from 738 to A320 on PER-HBA, not a great surprise as J has always not sold well on this route


At this stage it’s only until October. The 738’s return then through Spring and Summer. Of course that could change between now and then.

And speaking of Virgin, I hope that’s not the new livery that’s appeared in this thread from Facebook. It’s not great and for the life of me I can’t work out why they’ve flipped to the “traditional” Virgin logo when the biggest competitor in Aus has such a similar logo and tail.

Bring back Virgin Blue would be better!!
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Mon Aug 01, 2022 11:14 am

This is just a random render someone did at home and then posted on Facebook. It’s not the design.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:05 pm

Really heavy fog in BNE this morning. I count around 20 aircraft in various holding patterns waiting for it to clear. Departures not effected it seems. No doubt will have some knock effects during the day

And BAC advised via their FB page last night that the legacy runway (19L/1R) is closing for maintenance between 1000 and 1600 today and all traffic will use 19R/01L which will no doubt cause some further delays
 
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Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:17 pm

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This is just a random render someone did at home and then posted on Facebook. It’s not the design.

Correct It is just a photoshop someone dreamed up. It doesn't even reflect the revised corporate logo and it is still unknown if the revised corporate logo will also lead to any sort of revised livery.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:40 pm

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Really heavy fog in BNE this morning. I count around 20 aircraft in various holding patterns waiting for it to clear. Departures not effected it seems. No doubt will have some knock effects during the day

And BAC advised via their FB page last night that the legacy runway (19L/1R) is closing for maintenance between 1000 and 1600 today and all traffic will use 19R/01L which will no doubt cause some further delays


Visibility down to 200m in fog. Only Sydney, Melbourne, Canberra and Perth have the ability to do low visibility approaches to be capable of landing below that.

I guess someone did the sums and figured out the cost of delays in Brisbane due to fog is less than the cost of upgrading their approach equipment.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:44 pm

Interesting:

https://simpleflying.com/singapore-airl ... -2022/amp/

Not surprising if you consider at the time they only had 2 A380s operational, 8 still to come. Plus I don’t think the 787 and 330 were at as much capacity as pre covid.

One should think when the full 10 A380s are back, plus the additional 787s they’ve ordered and the A330 fleet is at full capacity then it’s be impossible for SQ to carry more international ox in and out of the country.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Mon Aug 01, 2022 11:02 pm

BNE fog seems to be starting a few diversions to MCY/OOL.

NZ202 seems to be the first International to divert to OOL this morning, its been in the air for close to 5hrs so probably getting low on fuel for a A320N.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Tue Aug 02, 2022 12:44 am

sierrakilo44 wrote:
Velocity7 wrote:
Really heavy fog in BNE this morning. I count around 20 aircraft in various holding patterns waiting for it to clear. Departures not effected it seems. No doubt will have some knock effects during the day

And BAC advised via their FB page last night that the legacy runway (19L/1R) is closing for maintenance between 1000 and 1600 today and all traffic will use 19R/01L which will no doubt cause some further delays


Visibility down to 200m in fog. Only Sydney, Melbourne, Canberra and Perth have the ability to do low visibility approaches to be capable of landing below that.

I guess someone did the sums and figured out the cost of delays in Brisbane due to fog is less than the cost of upgrading their approach equipment.


Pretty much. From memory, BNE averages one foggy morning per year, so additional equipment for Cat II would be costly for very little benefit.

CBR, at least, would ideally be Cat III given how common fog is there, but there is not enough traffic to justify the cost.

MEL and SYD are probably a bit closer to the margin of justifying Cat III, due to sheer volume, but don’t experience enough foggy days to justify the cost.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Tue Aug 02, 2022 1:24 am

RyanairGuru wrote:
sierrakilo44 wrote:
Velocity7 wrote:
Really heavy fog in BNE this morning. I count around 20 aircraft in various holding patterns waiting for it to clear. Departures not effected it seems. No doubt will have some knock effects during the day

And BAC advised via their FB page last night that the legacy runway (19L/1R) is closing for maintenance between 1000 and 1600 today and all traffic will use 19R/01L which will no doubt cause some further delays


Visibility down to 200m in fog. Only Sydney, Melbourne, Canberra and Perth have the ability to do low visibility approaches to be capable of landing below that.

I guess someone did the sums and figured out the cost of delays in Brisbane due to fog is less than the cost of upgrading their approach equipment.


Pretty much. From memory, BNE averages one foggy morning per year, so additional equipment for Cat II would be costly for very little benefit.

CBR, at least, would ideally be Cat III given how common fog is there, but there is not enough traffic to justify the cost.

MEL and SYD are probably a bit closer to the margin of justifying Cat III, due to sheer volume, but don’t experience enough foggy days to justify the cost.


MEL and PER already have Cat 3.
 
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Tue Aug 02, 2022 2:17 am

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CostaDelSol90 wrote:
This is just a random render someone did at home and then posted on Facebook. It’s not the design.

Correct It is just a photoshop someone dreamed up. It doesn't even reflect the revised corporate logo and it is still unknown if the revised corporate logo will also lead to any sort of revised livery.


Yeah, and the ever famous DJ's Aviation picked it up and 'reported' on it.

This scheme is literally an invert of the current livery, with a bit of QF, ultimately giving it the AirAsia look. Personally I am hoping for a bit of purple as well, if they do update their livery.
 
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Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:13 am

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Pretty much. From memory, BNE averages one foggy morning per year, so additional equipment for Cat II would be costly for very little benefit.


I'd say it's more like 4-6 mornings a year of heavy fog but yes, infrequent by comparison to other cities around the world

The last 4-5 months though have seen that number already
 
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Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:47 am

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RyanairGuru wrote:
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Visibility down to 200m in fog. Only Sydney, Melbourne, Canberra and Perth have the ability to do low visibility approaches to be capable of landing below that.

I guess someone did the sums and figured out the cost of delays in Brisbane due to fog is less than the cost of upgrading their approach equipment.


Pretty much. From memory, BNE averages one foggy morning per year, so additional equipment for Cat II would be costly for very little benefit.

CBR, at least, would ideally be Cat III given how common fog is there, but there is not enough traffic to justify the cost.

MEL and SYD are probably a bit closer to the margin of justifying Cat III, due to sheer volume, but don’t experience enough foggy days to justify the cost.


MEL and PER already have Cat 3.


:banghead:

I did know that, not sure what I was thinking.
 
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Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:59 am

Supposedly Rex is getting another 737 this month, and two more before the year is out. Anyone know where they’re coming from? Are there any exVA aircraft still looking for a home?, and if not I wonder what their plans are RE interior configuration.
 
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Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:19 am

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Supposedly Rex is getting another 737 this month, and two more before the year is out. Anyone know where they’re coming from? Are there any exVA aircraft still looking for a home?, and if not I wonder what their plans are RE interior configuration.


Not sure on interior, but the first frame is the one Samoa Airways were going to (did?) take. Currently sitting in MPL for maintenance.

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... ing/edz6p9

I assume there are still a glut of 737s out there ready for lease.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:16 am

Power outage at PER, some flights delayed with others canceled

https://twitter.com/9newsperth/status/1 ... 9n19r0YXEQ
 
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Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:11 am

tristans wrote:
a320fan wrote:
Supposedly Rex is getting another 737 this month, and two more before the year is out. Anyone know where they’re coming from? Are there any exVA aircraft still looking for a home?, and if not I wonder what their plans are RE interior configuration.


Not sure on interior, but the first frame is the one Samoa Airways were going to (did?) take. Currently sitting in MPL for maintenance.

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... ing/edz6p9

I assume there are still a glut of 737s out there ready for lease.

It is configured with 12 J seats as opposed to 8 on the old VA birds. That means 4 more J seats for ZL to sell at a loss.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:36 am

Looks like QF flights operating BNE-PER are diverting to ADL for fuel

VA clocked 6hrs19min on a BNE-PER while a flight from SYD clocked at 5hrs32min

Wind has been pretty bad here though if you are heading eastbound you are having a quicker than average flight
 
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Tue Aug 02, 2022 12:25 pm

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Supposedly Rex is getting another 737 this month, and two more before the year is out. Anyone know where they’re coming from? Are there any exVA aircraft still looking for a home?, and if not I wonder what their plans are RE interior configuration.


I am more interested in where they will put them. Maybe launching PER flights? More ADL services maybe.

Still seems to be hard work for Rex with their jet network.
 
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Tue Aug 02, 2022 12:27 pm

IndianicWorld wrote:
a320fan wrote:
Supposedly Rex is getting another 737 this month, and two more before the year is out. Anyone know where they’re coming from? Are there any exVA aircraft still looking for a home?, and if not I wonder what their plans are RE interior configuration.


I am more interested in where they will put them. Maybe launching PER flights? More ADL services maybe.

Still seems to be hard work for Rex with their jet network.


I actually think PER makes alot of sense - not overly reliant on high frequency but still a large premium market that will easy fill 8 J seats. Airfares to SYD and MEL post-covid and post-TT have absolutely skyrocketed, so I think there's definitely room for them to shake things up.
 
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Tue Aug 02, 2022 12:34 pm

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IndianicWorld wrote:
a320fan wrote:
Supposedly Rex is getting another 737 this month, and two more before the year is out. Anyone know where they’re coming from? Are there any exVA aircraft still looking for a home?, and if not I wonder what their plans are RE interior configuration.


I am more interested in where they will put them. Maybe launching PER flights? More ADL services maybe.

Still seems to be hard work for Rex with their jet network.


I actually think PER makes alot of sense - not overly reliant on high frequency but still a large premium market that will easy fill 8 J seats. Airfares to SYD and MEL post-covid and post-TT have absolutely skyrocketed, so I think there's definitely room for them to shake things up.


Tend to agree. Can see the following being an option:

MEL/SYD-PER
SYD-ADL
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Tue Aug 02, 2022 3:28 pm

With the FAA approving Boeing to deliver 787s again any idea when QF could get their next three? Are they accounted for in the schedule?
 
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Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:09 pm

https://aeroroutes.com/eng/220802-jq32q

Jetstar will deploy their A321 Neo LR on domestic routes MEL-CNS and MEL- OOL.
 
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Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:27 pm

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IndianicWorld wrote:
a320fan wrote:
Supposedly Rex is getting another 737 this month, and two more before the year is out. Anyone know where they’re coming from? Are there any exVA aircraft still looking for a home?, and if not I wonder what their plans are RE interior configuration.


I am more interested in where they will put them. Maybe launching PER flights? More ADL services maybe.

Still seems to be hard work for Rex with their jet network.


I actually think PER makes alot of sense - not overly reliant on high frequency but still a large premium market that will easy fill 8 J seats. Airfares to SYD and MEL post-covid and post-TT have absolutely skyrocketed, so I think there's definitely room for them to shake things up.


I wonder if they might try to get in on the Tasman? VA has left bit of an whole. With some seat only fares on the Tasman going for $400-800, there is allot of demand out there currently.

Both OOL/BNE have been hit hard with VA not resuming Tasman services.

Surely an OOL-AKL/CHC and BNE-AKL/CHC would be much less of a blood bath than the golden triangle.
 
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Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:35 pm

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Both OOL/BNE have been hit hard with VA not resuming Tasman services.

Surely an OOL-AKL/CHC and BNE-AKL/CHC would be much less of a blood bath than the golden triangle.


Or even BNE-WLG which is only operated by NZ... or OOL-WLG which is a JQ monopoly
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:12 pm

BNE-AKL case will likely be weak, despite the scenario of largely SFO-AKL connections on UA (on the days that UA doesn't fly to Queensland as part of the Queensland Government's AAIF program).
A mix of O&D and those from Queensland connecting to the AKL-SFO on UA would probably be the more ideal situation for VA, but then again may likely not be the case. As others has posted previously a loaded BNE-AKL on VA with most on connections to the UA fights would be low yielding.
 
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Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:18 pm

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zkncj wrote:

Both OOL/BNE have been hit hard with VA not resuming Tasman services.

Surely an OOL-AKL/CHC and BNE-AKL/CHC would be much less of a blood bath than the golden triangle.


Or even BNE-WLG which is only operated by NZ... or OOL-WLG which is a JQ monopoly


I'm a tad surprised that QF couldn't make OOL-AKL work, QF briefly took over from VA's absence on the route hoping to get the high yield leisure traffic, which seems to be lacking. OOL-AKL is largely a LCC route now with JQ and NZ's seat to suit model.
 
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Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:22 pm

Does their ownership structure allow them to operate Trans Tasman, without creating a 51% Australian owned shell company?
 
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Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:36 pm

They’ve already resumed Indonesia and Fiji operations and have announced the return to Honiara, Samoa and Vanuatu. They also kept the international AOC so I’d say their ownership re: international isn’t a concern. Also don’t forget that foreign airlines (EK, CI etc) have fifth freedom across the Tasman anyway so it wouldn’t matter regardless.
 
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Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:56 pm

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I'm a tad surprised that QF couldn't make OOL-AKL work, QF briefly took over from VA's absence on the route hoping to get the high yield leisure traffic, which seems to be lacking. OOL-AKL is largely a LCC route now with JQ and NZ's seat to suit model.


When QF had its short lived OOL-AKL run, they didn’t really have many other places they could fly Internationally.

JQ seems to be doing OOL-AKL twice an daily some days of the week now. I wonder if it will be come a early on a321N route for them?

OOL, does allow JQ to get a twice daily return with a a320 leaving AKL at 6am then running AKL-OOL-AKL-OOL-AKL.
 
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They’ve already resumed Indonesia and Fiji operations and have announced the return to Honiara, Samoa and Vanuatu. They also kept the international AOC so I’d say their ownership re: international isn’t a concern. Also don’t forget that foreign airlines (EK, CI etc) have fifth freedom across the Tasman anyway so it wouldn’t matter regardless.

Not to mention that VA also already fly to Queenstown. VA have decided not to return to trunk Tasman routes because they will only ever be a minor player on these routes compared with NZ and QF so will be a price-taker which is never a recipe for success. In comparison, they are in a very profitable duopoly on Australian domestic services so why would you want to channel capacity otherwise?

JQ seems to be doing OOL-AKL twice an daily some days of the week now. I wonder if it will be come a early on a321N route for them?

Unlikely given initial A321Ns will be MEL based on doing MEL-CNS and MEL-OOL. If JQ think OOL-AKL needs more capacity, the existing classic A321s could do the route
 
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Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:23 am

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They’ve already resumed Indonesia and Fiji operations and have announced the return to Honiara, Samoa and Vanuatu. They also kept the international AOC so I’d say their ownership re: international isn’t a concern. Also don’t forget that foreign airlines (EK, CI etc) have fifth freedom across the Tasman anyway so it wouldn’t matter regardless.



My apologies I should’ve made myself clearer. I was referring to ZL in my above post.
 
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Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:29 am

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I am more interested in where they will put them. Maybe launching PER flights? More ADL services maybe.

Still seems to be hard work for Rex with their jet network.


I actually think PER makes alot of sense - not overly reliant on high frequency but still a large premium market that will easy fill 8 J seats. Airfares to SYD and MEL post-covid and post-TT have absolutely skyrocketed, so I think there's definitely room for them to shake things up.


Tend to agree. Can see the following being an option:

MEL/SYD-PER
SYD-ADL


More competition out of SYD would be nice. Prices to anywhere other than MEL/OOL/BNE are ridiculous these days.

Flew ZL to OOL, cabin was only about 50% full on the outbound but it was understandable due to midweek departure. Whilst I would love to see more timings its probably not the lowest hanging fruit (by far) at this point.
 
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Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:46 am

vhqpa wrote:
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They’ve already resumed Indonesia and Fiji operations and have announced the return to Honiara, Samoa and Vanuatu. They also kept the international AOC so I’d say their ownership re: international isn’t a concern. Also don’t forget that foreign airlines (EK, CI etc) have fifth freedom across the Tasman anyway so it wouldn’t matter regardless.



My apologies I should’ve made myself clearer. I was referring to ZL in my above post.


Oh, all good, good point raised by you though - for the Tasman they’d likely be ok but anywhere else they’d need the shell company I think?
 
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a320fan wrote:
Supposedly Rex is getting another 737 this month, and two more before the year is out. Anyone know where they’re coming from? Are there any exVA aircraft still looking for a home?, and if not I wonder what their plans are RE interior configuration.


I am more interested in where they will put them. Maybe launching PER flights? More ADL services maybe.

Still seems to be hard work for Rex with their jet network.


I actually think PER makes alot of sense - not overly reliant on high frequency but still a large premium market that will easy fill 8 J seats. Airfares to SYD and MEL post-covid and post-TT have absolutely skyrocketed, so I think there's definitely room for them to shake things up.


Not suggesting Rex does this, but how much demand might there be ex KGI direct to the east coast? And if there is some, where would it be focussed?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:37 am

qf789 wrote:
Looks like QF flights operating BNE-PER are diverting to ADL for fuel

VA clocked 6hrs19min on a BNE-PER while a flight from SYD clocked at 5hrs32min

Wind has been pretty bad here though if you are heading eastbound you are having a quicker than average flight


Looks like the tech stops have continued today on BNE-PER, flights times for the non stops clocking in at close to 6.30! Some of the longest transcons ive ever seen. I imagine they are going out weight restricted!
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:00 am

In regards to Rex and PER, they could easily serve both MEL and SYD with one aircraft. A schedule something like:

SYD 0930 PER 1235
PER 1340 MEL 1900
MEL 2000 PER 2205
PER 2350 SYD 0620
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:40 am

jrfspa320 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Looks like QF flights operating BNE-PER are diverting to ADL for fuel

VA clocked 6hrs19min on a BNE-PER while a flight from SYD clocked at 5hrs32min

Wind has been pretty bad here though if you are heading eastbound you are having a quicker than average flight


Looks like the tech stops have continued today on BNE-PER, flights times for the non stops clocking in at close to 6.30! Some of the longest transcons ive ever seen. I imagine they are going out weight restricted!


Yes I agree that they would be going out out weight restricted

The VA flight from BNE has touched down clocking in at 6hrs18mins.

The 2 VA flights from MEL 5hrs26min and 4hrs53mins while the 2 flights from SYD have been
5hrs32mins and 5hrs29mins

On the other hand the domestic leg of QF6 PER-SYD has just landed with a flight time of 3hrs8mins
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2022

Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:49 am

tullamarine wrote:
Not to mention that VA also already fly to Queenstown. VA have decided not to return to trunk Tasman routes because they will only ever be a minor player on these routes compared with NZ and QF so will be a price-taker which is never a recipe for success. In comparison, they are in a very profitable duopoly on Australian domestic services so why would you want to channel capacity otherwise?


I didn’t think VA’s services to ZQN had started yet? They kept getting pushed back, and was looking like late 2022 if they ever start it. Missing out on the 2022 ski season.

VA 1.0 must of lost some serious cash on the Tasman? They had an pretty sizeable network pre-covid that was if not on far with QF.

From memory they had
BNE-AKL/WLG/CHC/ZQN/DUD
OOL-AKL/CHC
SYD-AKL/WLG/CHC/ZQN
MEL-AKL/WLG/CHC/ZQN
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