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8herveg
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Do PIA (operated by Jordan Aviation) fly from Doncaster Sheffield to Islamabad?!

Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:00 am

I saw on YouTube that someone had done a trip report on a PIA flight (operated by Jordan Aviation) from Doncaster Sheffield to Islamabad. But there was no details on when this route was flown.

Do they or did they fly this route?

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Re: Do PIA (operated by Jordan Aviation) fly from Doncaster Sheffield to Islamabad?!

Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:05 am

These flights have operated for a couple of weeks now, they have been moved to DSA temporarily from MAN after they were banned from there because of poor on time performance….or so the story goes.
 
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Re: Do PIA (operated by Jordan Aviation) fly from Doncaster Sheffield to Islamabad?!e

Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:12 pm

AirBourne wrote:
These flights have operated for a couple of weeks now, they have been moved to DSA temporarily from MAN after they were banned from there because of poor on time performance….or so the story goes.


Scheduled to return to Manchester on 20th September .

Find quite amusing if not a little scary that, that particular plane was summarily banned from flying to the UK for Shaheen ( who’s colours it retains) along with that airline several years ago due to mass maintenance failures and now it’s moved to Jordan flying for Pakistan because PIA and other Pakistani carriers remain banned from flying the the EU AND UK on guess what mass maintenance and quality record violations !
 
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Re: Do PIA (operated by Jordan Aviation) fly from Doncaster Sheffield to Islamabad?!e

Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:37 pm

SueD wrote:
Scheduled to return to Manchester on 20th September .

Find quite amusing if not a little scary that, that particular plane was summarily banned from flying to the UK for Shaheen ( who’s colours it retains) along with that airline several years ago due to mass maintenance failures and now it’s moved to Jordan flying for Pakistan because PIA and other Pakistani carriers remain banned from flying the the EU AND UK on guess what mass maintenance and quality record violations !

I believe the primary cause for the ban was they found pilots had fudged their educational and training records, and that many in the country weren't even trained or qualified to be pilots. This was found after PIA8303 crash.
 
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Re: Do PIA (operated by Jordan Aviation) fly from Doncaster Sheffield to Islamabad?!

Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:47 pm

And a prior Shaheen 737 crash. Pakistan aviation should be banned period even this proxy provides some concerns . if pilot documents were forged ( some were high level associates of the ruling elite) imagine maintenance records and dodgy repairs !
 
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Re: Do PIA (operated by Jordan Aviation) fly from Doncaster Sheffield to Islamabad?!

Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:23 am

So is PIA still banned from Europe currently? I think I read somewhere the ban was going to be lifted. Are they not allowed to fly there own aircraft and crew to the EU, and need to lease from another airline to do it? Confused on what's goin on regarding this.
 
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Re: Do PIA (operated by Jordan Aviation) fly from Doncaster Sheffield to Islamabad?!

Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:56 pm

Still black listed unless and until they pass an EASA audit as far as I know
I suspect the Pakistan CAA in particular were hoping to somehow get now separate GB CAA to approve them separately for flights to resume into LHR/MAN/BHX however that hasn’t happened
The Jordanian 330 also operates a rotation into Paris

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