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Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 6:53 am

A Copa 737-800 HP-1539CMP has overrun the runway at PTY. It was operating CM135 from Mexico City. An evacuation has taken place an no reports of injury

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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:09 am

Thats the second 737 within a few days... we are going into northern hemisphere autumn. Its getting darker earlier, the winds are picking up and rain is picking up in many locations. We probably gonna see another hand full of these over the next few months...

Good thing is no one got insured, but i would not want to be the person having to jump from that right wing into the plowed field. Thats a broken ankle waiting...
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:35 am

FluidFlow wrote:
Thats the second 737 within a few days... we are going into northern hemisphere autumn. Its getting darker earlier, the winds are picking up and rain is picking up in many locations. We probably gonna see another hand full of these over the next few months...

Good thing is no one got insured, but i would not want to be the person having to jump from that right wing into the plowed field. Thats a broken ankle waiting...

Oh, I hope this bird did have insurance! ;-) sorry, couldn’t resist…

True, we are entering the season where the common narrow body sometimes tends to overrun the runway. Especially the male birds who are often distracted due to female birds sitting on the apron…
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:59 am

I was at the airport at the moment the plane overran and it was raining quite intensively… Tocumen stopped for two hours.
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:08 am

Looks to me more like it slid off the side as opposed to a true overrun.
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:10 am

N14AZ wrote:
FluidFlow wrote:
Thats the second 737 within a few days... we are going into northern hemisphere autumn. Its getting darker earlier, the winds are picking up and rain is picking up in many locations. We probably gonna see another hand full of these over the next few months...

Good thing is no one got insured, but i would not want to be the person having to jump from that right wing into the plowed field. Thats a broken ankle waiting...

Oh, I hope this bird did have insurance! ;-) sorry, couldn’t resist…

True, we are entering the season where the common narrow body sometimes tends to overrun the runway. Especially the male birds who are often distracted due to female birds sitting on the apron…


You need a partner for hibernating during the cold season, so if you are still alone, time is ticking and there might have been some distraction in PTY...

jokes aside, happy nothing happened to any passenger. The only ones pretty annoyed are probably the engineers that have to clean out all the dirt and mud...
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:04 am

Glad everybody is safe, that's the most important !! I live near by the airport and there was a very heavy rain at the hour this happened .

Now, at this hour (sept 26, 6 am PTY local) and based on flightradar24, PTY seems to be operating with only one runway . I guess this will be up to HP-1539CMP is removed from the other runway.. not sure the impact it might have on CM or other carrier operations during the day..
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:39 am

I wonder if there's much in the way of damage here. It looks like it had its excursion at a fairly low speed, and apart from being very muddy, I can't really see anything obviously damaged, apart from the flap canoe being dented (that's assuming the NLG sank into the mud and didn't break off). This aircraft may be back in service fairly soon.
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:58 am

atcsundevil wrote:
I wonder if there's much in the way of damage here. It looks like it had its excursion at a fairly low speed, and apart from being very muddy, I can't really see anything obviously damaged, apart from the flap canoe being dented (that's assuming the NLG sank into the mud and didn't break off). This aircraft may be back in service fairly soon.


If the fuselage including gear and wings is ok it probably could fly pretty fast again, but the engines will need a good check/inspection because there must have been a lot of mud including the odd pebbles ingested and that is surely not something fixed fast. But if they have two good engines to swap, why not.
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:05 pm

ah, the 737 runway overshoot season has begun. :stirthepot:
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:06 pm

At least it wasn't the retrojet in their big anniversary year!
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:16 pm

Glad there weren't any casualties. And I agree: photos indicate this was not an overrun, but an excursion off the side of the rwy. Recommend editing the misleading title to reflect, as an overrun is often more dangerous, given downslopes/cliffs, collision with approach lighting, etc.

"Runway overruns are defined as situations when aircraft on takeoff or landing roll extends beyond the end of the runway."
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:35 pm

It looks like Joe Patroni needs to fly down to PTY, to get this aircraft out of the mud.
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:40 pm

So the real question now: should it be called B737 overrun season or excursion season?
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:45 pm

Aaron747 wrote:
So the real question now: should it be called B737 overrun season or excursion season?

This one looks more like excursion, Nevertheless we're in the season, boys! :stirthepot: :stirthepot:
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:54 pm

I wonder why the passengers were evacuated. It seems like sliding off isn’t an indication to evacuate.
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:02 pm

avi8 wrote:
I wonder why the passengers were evacuated. It seems like sliding off isn’t an indication to evacuate.


My guesses, and nothing more:

1. Movable stairs impossible to be pushed across the mud to a door;
2. Excursion most likely forced rwy closure;
3. They needed to be deplaned pronto so the aircraft could be made lighter to be moved out ASAP to allow rwy to be reopened.
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:03 pm

That aft slide in the first photo led the pax/crew right into a nice puddle of mud...how most unfortunate!
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:13 pm

a. That'll buff right out
b. Every landing you can walk away from is a good landing. (glad everyone did walk away)
c. Crew forgot to arm the 4-wheel drive before going mudding.
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:44 pm

exFWAOONW wrote:
a. That'll buff right out
b. Every landing you can walk away from is a good landing. (glad everyone did walk away)
c. Crew forgot to arm the 4-wheel drive before going mudding.


All wheel drive with low gear for muddy situations. A dc-6 would have been able to pull itself out.
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:54 pm

DALCE wrote:
ah, the 737 runway overshoot season has begun. :stirthepot:


Stay tuned, E145 sliding off the runway season will also be upon us soon!
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:54 pm

WA707atMSP wrote:
It looks like Joe Patroni needs to fly down to PTY, to get this aircraft out of the mud.


LOL so true.

https://youtu.be/IrqN62qbthc
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:30 pm

Looking at images 1,3 and 4, I have to wonder about the condition of the nose landing gear.
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:59 am

Having read the AvHerald report, this was definitely a runway excursion, with very little time spent on the actual runway. Started to drift in the flare and went pear shaped from there.

https://avherald.com/h?article=4fecf7cf&opt=0
 
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Re: Copa 737-800 overruns runway at PTY

Tue Sep 27, 2022 6:36 pm

FluidFlow wrote:
we are going into northern hemisphere autumn. Its getting darker earlier, the winds are picking up and rain is picking up in many locations.

Panama is located within the tropical zone, between the Tropic of Cancer and Tropic of Capricorn.
We cannot speak about the autumn season, in this country.
During this period, the heavy rain season is extremely hitting all this geographical zone.

Regards.

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