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Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:15 pm

Samer Al Majali, Royal Jordanian CEO, has announced that RJ will order upto 20 A320NEO to replace the current 13 A320s in the fleet and for expansion purposes.

The airline is currently in discussions with Boeing for additional B787s and is evaluating both the B787-9 and B787-10. The new aircraft will be featuring onboard wifi and lie flat business class seats.

Royal Jordanian Airlines is aiming to grow its network and fleet within the next few years.

Source: https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/r ... JqlaYNSk9I
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:06 am

Awesome news! I've personally enjoyed many trips with RJ, many in transit and their price usually reflects what you get. AMM Airport is great for transit and staff has always been friendly. Good to see them expanding!
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:00 am

hopefully they go for the -10
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:03 am

I hate to ask this, however I wonder if there’s any possibility of a new livery with these new jets? Perhaps a modern twist to what they have now?
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:24 am

SXDFC wrote:
I hate to ask this, however I wonder if there’s any possibility of a new livery with these new jets? Perhaps a modern twist to what they have now?

Nothing as of yet. But they need it
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:38 am

SXDFC wrote:
I hate to ask this, however I wonder if there’s any possibility of a new livery with these new jets? Perhaps a modern twist to what they have now?


There days modern twist is reducing the number of colours and adding more white, Anet will not approve.
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:54 am

xwb777 wrote:
Samer Al Majali, Royal Jordanian CEO, has announced that RJ will order upto 20 A320NEO to replace the current 13 A320s in the fleet and for expansion purposes.


So they will replace the A321 with A320neos?
That's going against trend I would say.
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:32 am

SXDFC wrote:
I hate to ask this, however I wonder if there’s any possibility of a new livery with these new jets? Perhaps a modern twist to what they have now?


Please don't ask - let's not fix what ain't broken.
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:51 am

RJ will also announce a regional aircraft order.

Will the airline go with the A220 or the E195-E2?

https://www.arabianbusiness.com/industr ... -aircrafts
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:58 am

I think we all know what a new livery would look like!

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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:04 am

chiad wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
Samer Al Majali, Royal Jordanian CEO, has announced that RJ will order upto 20 A320NEO to replace the current 13 A320s in the fleet and for expansion purposes.


So they will replace the A321 with A320neos?
That's going against trend I would say.

Exactly what I thought. :scratchchin:
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:18 am

chiad wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
Samer Al Majali, Royal Jordanian CEO, has announced that RJ will order upto 20 A320NEO to replace the current 13 A320s in the fleet and for expansion purposes.


So they will replace the A321 with A320neos?
That's going against trend I would say.


They only have 2 321s. Perhaps a top up order for these since the 320NEO order is for replacement and expansion.
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Mon Oct 03, 2022 12:10 pm

First300 wrote:
chiad wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
Samer Al Majali, Royal Jordanian CEO, has announced that RJ will order upto 20 A320NEO to replace the current 13 A320s in the fleet and for expansion purposes.


So they will replace the A321 with A320neos?
That's going against trend I would say.


They only have 2 321s. Perhaps a top up order for these since the 320NEO order is for replacement and expansion.


Interesting- where do they send these 321? Maybe it’s 320 family?

I do like RJ, and whilst I like their livery a slight brand refresh would be nice - a new uniform is desperately needed.
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Mon Oct 03, 2022 12:26 pm

Good choices by RJ :yes:

chiad wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
Samer Al Majali, Royal Jordanian CEO, has announced that RJ will order upto 20 A320NEO to replace the current 13 A320s in the fleet and for expansion purposes.


So they will replace the A321 with A320neos?
That's going against trend I would say.


RJ will probably have the flexibilty to switch part of their order to A321s, depending on how demand on certain routes. I'd be highly surprised of they didn't. Perhaps even (X)LR's.

sibibom wrote:
SXDFC wrote:
I hate to ask this, however I wonder if there’s any possibility of a new livery with these new jets? Perhaps a modern twist to what they have now?


There days modern twist is reducing the number of colours and adding more white, Anet will not approve.


And I would be one of them! One of the few classic liveries left. Nothing wrong with it.

CarbonFibre wrote:
I think we all know what a new livery would look like!

Image


AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH! :banghead: :hissyfit: :brokenheart: :thumbsdown: :weeping: :yuck:

Opus99 wrote:
hopefully they go for the -10


The 787-10 in RJ livery would be gorgeous, but I would be very surprised if they went for it. It would make them the only airline to operate the -8 and -10 but not the -9. That would very much be against trend ;)
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Mon Oct 03, 2022 12:33 pm

xwb777 wrote:
RJ will also announce a regional aircraft order.

Will the airline go with the A220 or the E195-E2?

https://www.arabianbusiness.com/industr ... -aircrafts


According to the articlef the reasons RJ decided for the A320neo were "that it considerably reduces training and other costs" (of introducing a totally new aircraft type, my summary). With RJ already operating the E190, I'd say the E2-19x is favorite. If they favored the A220 I guess it would have been part of the Airbus deal?
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Mon Oct 03, 2022 12:53 pm

smi0006 wrote:
Interesting- where do they send these 321? Maybe it’s 320 family?

The two A321s are JY-AYT and JY-AYV - RJ sends them to a plethora of destinations: anywhere from AQJ / TLV (flight time of 30 minutes) to CDG / LHR / MAD (flight time of 5 hours). If interested, here are their recent histories:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/jy-ayt
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/jy-ayv

By the way, without being two pedantic, under replacement will be 4 A319s, 7 A320s and 2 A321s.
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Mon Oct 03, 2022 12:56 pm

xwb777 wrote:
RJ will also announce a regional aircraft order.

Will the airline go with the A220 or the E195-E2?

https://www.arabianbusiness.com/industr ... -aircrafts


Judging by the fact on the reasoning behind the A320Neo order, I would say that RJ would opt for the E95-E2 for the regional fleet.

As far as the incremental order for four B787s are concerned, I don’t foresee the need to upgrade to the B781 as it’s capacity would be too much on year round USA services plus AMM-ORD (13:05 winter block) may have payload issues. Currently RJs 7 B788s seat 270 pax in a dual class layout (24J/270Y) so if they maintain the same premium cabin size it would mean 318 seats on board the B789 ie +18% capacity which is ideal.

With regards to the A321Neo, I would assume that the order has a built in option to up-gauge for a small fee provided an advance notice period of 18 months is given as per regular terms / conditions.

Yes there are few routes requiring the A321Neo incremental capacity at RJ in the long run such as JED DXB KWI LHR CDG but the airline does not need A321-XLRs ! Maximum, the airline needs 4 A321Neos out of this 20 A320Neo family order size.
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:14 pm

RJ and Embraer has conducted a special flight operated by the E195-E2 during its visit to Amman.

Maybe now we have a hint regarding the regional aircraft order?
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:07 am

Will it be bought using the state's money or leased?
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:30 am

CarbonFibre wrote:
I think we all know what a new livery would look like!

Image


Nah there's not enough white in this livery.
 
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Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:54 am

A rendering of the E195-E2 in RJ’s livery. A demonstration flight eas conducted in Amman few days ago.
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:18 am

xwb777 wrote:
Royal Jordanian Airlines is aiming to grow its network and fleet within the next few years.

Will this mainly be for holiday and VFR traffic to/from Jordan?

To what extent do they want to grow AMM as a hub to transit?
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Wed Oct 05, 2022 12:20 pm

Hey guys,
I ageee that RJ's current livery is a classic however I also have always felt it was a bit too complicated. A Qantas / AirFrance style 'refresh' of the classic colours and symbols would be great - but please NO Eurowhite scheme nor wavy lines!
Happy that they are sensibly re-equipping and like others upthread, look forward to the, growing their Dreamliner fleet.
Take care,
Bunumuring
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:31 pm

xwb777 wrote:
Samer Al Majali, Royal Jordanian CEO, has announced that RJ will order upto 20 A320NEO to replace the current 13 A320s in the fleet and for expansion purposes.

The airline is currently in discussions with Boeing for additional B787s and is evaluating both the B787-9 and B787-10. The new aircraft will be featuring onboard wifi and lie flat business class seats.

Royal Jordanian Airlines is aiming to grow its network and fleet within the next few years.

Source: https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/r ... JqlaYNSk9I


Regional jet order preference announced today as RJ orders a mix of 10 E90/95 E2s with cabin layout also announced

Source
https://newsroom.aviator.aero/royal-jor ... ral-years/
 
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Re: Royal Jordanian to order 20 A320NEO, to add more B787s

Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:52 am

Hi guys,
Yea, as predicted, the Embraers got the nod. Follows on from the Jordanians’ logic for selecting the neos and additional Dreamliners.
Great to see more order for the E2.
Take care
Bunumuring

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