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Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 1:36 pm

As per onemile at a time, Delta could be interested in picking up A350-1000s.

https://onemileatatime.com/news/delta-airbus-a350-1000/
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 1:41 pm

Interesting they mention the ex QR order of 19 frames. I'm sure Airbus would give DL a good deal to take over the order so as to not have any white tails. Plus, it makes them competitive against UA and AAs 77Ws in capacity. Seems like a win-win.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 1:45 pm

Delta should take it. Excellent aircraft at a good price? Will look amazing too.

I don’t think I’ve seen DLs livery in an aircraft that long. Looking forward to it
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 1:46 pm

I agree it will look great!
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 1:56 pm

Not really the best researched article. The 767s DL primarily flies to London are 764s, which all feature D1 suites and Premium Select.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 2:04 pm

Delta has open orders for 20 more A350-900s. It is possible that those may be converted to the A350-1000 variants.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 2:08 pm

Any rendereing of a 351 in DL colours?
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 2:12 pm

If this goes through, this would be a significant step up in capacity for Delta. Their A359s were already matching or exceeding capacity of the AA 77Ws, and aren't far behind UAs 77Ws -- though certainly that's not an apples to apples comparison as Delta's birds are three-class configuration, and American four-class. Any speculation for where they would use an aircraft of this capacity and capability? The Pacific isn't growing any time soon -- except possibly Australia? Do they need such capability over the Atlantic?
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 2:18 pm

The Atlantic is an absolute gold mine right now to be fair.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 2:20 pm

The former Delta B744 had a 3 class cabin with 376 seats total so if they go with the A35K the layout should be similar.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 2:42 pm

This was discussed yesterday on Reddit. What curious timing OMAAT!
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 2:51 pm

With AA and UA increasing their premium cabins, I wonder if DL would bite the bullet. I also wonder if they don’t have another Delta One product in the works since they haven’t bothered upgrading the ex-LATAM birds.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:08 pm

Hmm. Why? They had more than 15 years to get 77Ws - at a great deal maybe 5 years or so back. To me this is an example of Delta thinking: they got rid of their 744s in favor of 359s - when they could have gotten 77Ws. What has changed?
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:16 pm

lifecomm wrote:
Hmm. Why? They had more than 15 years to get 77Ws - at a great deal maybe 5 years or so back. To me this is an example of Delta thinking: they got rid of their 744s in favor of 359s - when they could have gotten 77Ws. What has changed?

A bunch of white tail A35Ks at a possibly seriously good price.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:18 pm

Would the additional range or payload of the A35K help on routes to JNB or SYD?

-Rowen
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:21 pm

Fuling wrote:
This was discussed yesterday on Reddit. What curious timing OMAAT!


And it has been under discussion in the delta fleet thread since last week.

I’m surprised to see this come about now as the pilots are currently voting on a strike. Seems like something they’d try to use in contract negotiations as increased WB flying.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:22 pm

The 35K has about a 600nm range increase over the 359. There’s certainly some interesting applications which DL can use the aircraft on, it ordered. Likely they might just use it for bolstering service to the European hubs first, then maybe for new routes and expansion. It’s quite a large plane to start a new route with.

ATL: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=8700nm%40ATL
JFK: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=8700nm%40JFK&MS=wls&DU=mi
SEA: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=8700nm%40SEA&MS=wls&DU=mi
LAX: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=8700nm%40LAX&MS=wls&DU=mi
MSP: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=8700nm%40Msp&MS=wls&DU=mi
DTW: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=8700nm%40Dtw&MS=wls&DU=mi

It could reach a lot of Eastern Asia from LAX/SEA and it could reach the Indian subcontinent from ATL/JFK. Using a possible configuration of 360ish seats, will the 35K be able to do this given airspace and range restrictions?
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:25 pm

First300 wrote:
Any rendereing of a 351 in DL colours?

I think there’s one in the DL fleet thread, go to around page 30 or 31
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:25 pm

My big question is, will they have performance similar to QFs Project Sunrise birds? I know a lot of that performance is the low density layout but Airbus is still working with them to ultimately make the plane better too.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:28 pm

Boeing757100 wrote:
The 35K has about a 600nm range increase over the 359. There’s certainly some interesting applications which DL can use the aircraft on, it ordered. Likely they might just use it for bolstering service to the European hubs first, then maybe for new routes and expansion. It’s quite a large plane to start a new route with.

ATL: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=8700nm%40ATL
JFK: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=8700nm%40JFK&MS=wls&DU=mi
SEA: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=8700nm%40SEA&MS=wls&DU=mi
LAX: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=8700nm%40LAX&MS=wls&DU=mi

It could reach a lot of Eastern Asia from LAX/SEA and it could reach the Indian subcontinent from ATL/JFK. Using a possible configuration of 360ish seats, will the 35K be able to do this given airspace and range restrictions?

It would also be capacity growth into airports with slot restrictions. Could be useful for LHR, AMS, HND amongst others.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:30 pm

TonyClifton wrote:
Boeing757100 wrote:
The 35K has about a 600nm range increase over the 359. There’s certainly some interesting applications which DL can use the aircraft on, it ordered. Likely they might just use it for bolstering service to the European hubs first, then maybe for new routes and expansion. It’s quite a large plane to start a new route with.

ATL: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=8700nm%40ATL
JFK: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=8700nm%40JFK&MS=wls&DU=mi
SEA: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=8700nm%40SEA&MS=wls&DU=mi
LAX: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=8700nm%40LAX&MS=wls&DU=mi

It could reach a lot of Eastern Asia from LAX/SEA and it could reach the Indian subcontinent from ATL/JFK. Using a possible configuration of 360ish seats, will the 35K be able to do this given airspace and range restrictions?

It would also be capacity growth into airports with slot restrictions. Could be useful for LHR, AMS, HND amongst others.

While temporary, it's worth noting that LHR and AMS have imposed passenger capacity restrictions.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:41 pm

First300 wrote:
Any rendereing of a 351 in DL colours?

Same one I made for the other thread. Looks nice enough anyway.
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:47 pm

First ET and now (maybe) DL? Who's next? I can see AF taking the -1000 down the road. TK?
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:48 pm

luckyone wrote:
lifecomm wrote:
Hmm. Why? They had more than 15 years to get 77Ws - at a great deal maybe 5 years or so back. To me this is an example of Delta thinking: they got rid of their 744s in favor of 359s - when they could have gotten 77Ws. What has changed?

A bunch of white tail A35Ks at a possibly seriously good price.

Oh I agree that there might be a good deal on 351s out there - but my question is why the need for a larger aircraft? Five years ago, before COVID, end of line 77Ws were available. I'm sure Boeing was begging Delta to come back with a great deals. But I think Delta did not want aircraft of this size - and never did or they would have gotten onboard 15-20 years ago.

I would think their conservative size approach would be stronger post-COVID. But sure, if the price is low enough!
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:07 pm

lifecomm wrote:
Hmm. Why? They had more than 15 years to get 77Ws - at a great deal maybe 5 years or so back. To me this is an example of Delta thinking: they got rid of their 744s in favor of 359s - when they could have gotten 77Ws. What has changed?

As mention in the OMAAT article the A359/Ks get substantially better fuel burn than the 777 series.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:08 pm

luckyone wrote:
TonyClifton wrote:
Boeing757100 wrote:
The 35K has about a 600nm range increase over the 359. There’s certainly some interesting applications which DL can use the aircraft on, it ordered. Likely they might just use it for bolstering service to the European hubs first, then maybe for new routes and expansion. It’s quite a large plane to start a new route with.

ATL: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=8700nm%40ATL
JFK: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=8700nm%40JFK&MS=wls&DU=mi
SEA: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=8700nm%40SEA&MS=wls&DU=mi
LAX: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=8700nm%40LAX&MS=wls&DU=mi

It could reach a lot of Eastern Asia from LAX/SEA and it could reach the Indian subcontinent from ATL/JFK. Using a possible configuration of 360ish seats, will the 35K be able to do this given airspace and range restrictions?

It would also be capacity growth into airports with slot restrictions. Could be useful for LHR, AMS, HND amongst others.

While temporary, it's worth noting that LHR and AMS have imposed passenger capacity restrictions.

I would think these caps are long gone by the time the first -1000 enters service.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:31 pm

N776AU wrote:
First300 wrote:
Any rendereing of a 351 in DL colours?

Same one I made for the other thread. Looks nice enough anyway.
Image

Beautiful airplane. Thanks for the rendering.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:36 pm

Would the A35K be a performance upgrade for ATL - JNB, CPT?
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:37 pm

lifecomm wrote:
luckyone wrote:
lifecomm wrote:
Hmm. Why? They had more than 15 years to get 77Ws - at a great deal maybe 5 years or so back. To me this is an example of Delta thinking: they got rid of their 744s in favor of 359s - when they could have gotten 77Ws. What has changed?

A bunch of white tail A35Ks at a possibly seriously good price.

Oh I agree that there might be a good deal on 351s out there - but my question is why the need for a larger aircraft? Five years ago, before COVID, end of line 77Ws were available. I'm sure Boeing was begging Delta to come back with a great deals. But I think Delta did not want aircraft of this size - and never did or they would have gotten onboard 15-20 years ago.

I would think their conservative size approach would be stronger post-COVID. But sure, if the price is low enough!


Passenger traffic patterns changed, premium focus, no 777s in the fleet, DL management view on larger aircraft...can be plenty of reasons.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:37 pm

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The former Delta B744 had a 3 class cabin with 376 seats total so if they go with the A35K the layout should be similar.


There's absolutely no reason to replicate 744 capacity or layout. DL flew 744s because they got them with the NW acquisition. DL quickly put 777ERs and 77Ls on TPAC routes.

lifecomm wrote:
Hmm. Why? They had more than 15 years to get 77Ws - at a great deal maybe 5 years or so back. To me this is an example of Delta thinking: they got rid of their 744s in favor of 359s - when they could have gotten 77Ws. What has changed?


Like he said. A major rationale for the KE JV was to commit fewer frames to TPAC (along with more 1-stop coverage, obviously). DL isn't going to change its mind and suddenly think it needs to fly 340 seats SEA-KUL (or SIN, or CGK).

Yes, a 35K brings more capability... but to what end within a DL route network? Enough routes for 20 frames?! A discounted purchase price really doesn't mean much against 25-years total cost of ownership. Now, if Airbus is willing to let DL convert A350-900 orders, including the ten DL picked up from LATAM...
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:51 pm

pdxplanes837362 wrote:
lifecomm wrote:
Hmm. Why? They had more than 15 years to get 77Ws - at a great deal maybe 5 years or so back. To me this is an example of Delta thinking: they got rid of their 744s in favor of 359s - when they could have gotten 77Ws. What has changed?

As mention in the OMAAT article the A359/Ks get substantially better fuel burn than the 777 series.

Of course 351s are better on fuel - so are 777Xs. Before COVID was the time to think bigger - I just think that Delta would prefer to fill the aircraft they already have and those on order: more 339s and 359s. Someone smarter than me sizes aircraft to routes - Delta has a pretty good track record doing just that with smaller aircraft.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:09 pm

Are any of the cancelled QR 351s built yet, or are they all future production slots?
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:09 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
There's absolutely no reason to replicate 744 capacity or layout. DL flew 744s because they got them with the NW acquisition. DL quickly put 777ERs and 77Ls on TPAC routes.


Agree with you and i just mention the layout of the B744 because looking at the current layout of the A359 if Delta goes to the A35K i see them getting arround 360 seats.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:11 pm

Forget 77Ws, they could have gotten 351s four years ago - but they didn't. They could have converted some 359s - but they didn't. Again, what has changed? Aren't MH 380s available? And at a great deal?
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:14 pm

lifecomm wrote:
Forget 77Ws, they could have gotten 351s four years ago - but they didn't. They could have converted some 359s - but they didn't. Again, what has changed? Aren't MH 380s available? And at a great deal?

They've since set up a JV with LATAM, Korean is merging with Asiana which could lead to JV traffic increases. Airlines routinely change orders from one type to another, I don’t know why it’s such a shock that DL which has grown their 359 orders from 25 to 44 could possibly want more jets or bigger capacity.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:15 pm

Does DL have an aircraft that can do LAX-MEL? If not can the proposed A35Ks do it?
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:16 pm

AECM wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:
There's absolutely no reason to replicate 744 capacity or layout. DL flew 744s because they got them with the NW acquisition. DL quickly put 777ERs and 77Ls on TPAC routes.


Agree with you and i just mention the layout of the B744 because looking at the current layout of the A359 if Delta goes to the A35K i see them getting arround 360 seats.


I don't. I anticipate a more premium heavy layout.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:17 pm

rjbesikof wrote:
Does DL have an aircraft that can do LAX-MEL? If not can the proposed A35Ks do it?


This has to be within the A359 capabilities considering other aircraft on the route.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:18 pm

timf wrote:
Are any of the cancelled QR 351s built yet, or are they all future production slots?

5 QR A35Ks already built
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:23 pm

jbs2886 wrote:
rjbesikof wrote:
Does DL have an aircraft that can do LAX-MEL? If not can the proposed A35Ks do it?


This has to be within the A359 capabilities considering other aircraft on the route.


Its also possible,

A359 > C32W48Y226
B744 > C48W42Y286

Do you think Delta will go with more than C48 and W48?
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:25 pm

AECM wrote:
jbs2886 wrote:
rjbesikof wrote:
Does DL have an aircraft that can do LAX-MEL? If not can the proposed A35Ks do it?


This has to be within the A359 capabilities considering other aircraft on the route.


Its also possible,

A359 > C32W48Y226
B744 > C48W42Y286

Do you think Delta will go with more than C48 and W48?


Probably not more than 48 (although AA will have 70 in the 77Ws and UA has up to 60 in some birds), but likely will also see heavy Premium Select and Comfort+ cabins.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:25 pm

Are any of these 19 so far along that they cannot receive the cabin with the increased width? Not that Delta would ever go 10 abreast, but a plane with at least wider aisles, or a larger middle seat for each of the 3 3 3-areast banks might be nice..
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:55 pm

TWA772LR wrote:
My big question is, will they have performance similar to QFs Project Sunrise birds? I know a lot of that performance is the low density layout but Airbus is still working with them to ultimately make the plane better too.

Current white tails would not have the weight savings and new sidewalls incorporated but new builds would. I saw the first A359 with the new production standard was recently delivered to Iberia.

https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/i ... 06.article
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:21 pm

lifecomm wrote:
Forget 77Ws, they could have gotten 351s four years ago - but they didn't. They could have converted some 359s - but they didn't. Again, what has changed? Aren't MH 380s available? And at a great deal?


What's changed? DL needs to fly more long-haul using its own metals. Pilot unioon does not like all the JV partner flying DL has

viewtopic.php?t=1472943
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:40 pm

lifecomm wrote:
Forget 77Ws, they could have gotten 351s four years ago - but they didn't. They could have converted some 359s - but they didn't. Again, what has changed? Aren't MH 380s available? And at a great deal?


A smoking deal on some near term aircraft is what changed.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:59 pm

They could take unbuilt QR frames to the QF Sunrise standard if they needed to - unless there's is an exclusivity clause in the QF contract
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:08 pm

lifecomm wrote:
Forget 77Ws, they could have gotten 351s four years ago - but they didn't. They could have converted some 359s - but they didn't. Again, what has changed? Aren't MH 380s available? And at a great deal?

United could've gotten 77Ws 10 years before they did - but they didn't... Until Boeing gave them a smoking deal. This can be a similar situation. Airbus trying to avoid white tails and give them to an airline that will cost almost nothing to integrate.

P.S. I know UAs 77Ws we're for 787 compensation, but a good deal is a good deal and UA could've gone down other avenues for that compensation.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:12 pm

TWA772LR wrote:
lifecomm wrote:
Forget 77Ws, they could have gotten 351s four years ago - but they didn't. They could have converted some 359s - but they didn't. Again, what has changed? Aren't MH 380s available? And at a great deal?

United could've gotten 77Ws 10 years before they did - but they didn't... Until Boeing gave them a smoking deal. This can be a similar situation. Airbus trying to avoid white tails and give them to an airline that will cost almost nothing to integrate.

P.S. I know UAs 77Ws we're for 787 compensation, but a good deal is a good deal and UA could've gone down other avenues for that compensation.


Didn't United have a couple of 744s to replace?
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:26 pm

lifecomm wrote:
TWA772LR wrote:
lifecomm wrote:
Forget 77Ws, they could have gotten 351s four years ago - but they didn't. They could have converted some 359s - but they didn't. Again, what has changed? Aren't MH 380s available? And at a great deal?

United could've gotten 77Ws 10 years before they did - but they didn't... Until Boeing gave them a smoking deal. This can be a similar situation. Airbus trying to avoid white tails and give them to an airline that will cost almost nothing to integrate.

P.S. I know UAs 77Ws we're for 787 compensation, but a good deal is a good deal and UA could've gone down other avenues for that compensation.


Didn't United have a couple of 744s to replace?

Yeah but they could've opted for MAXs or literally anything else Boeing offered, even 748s. The earlier 747 replacement was gravy as the A350 was originally slated to replace them. Point is, seize a good deal while you can, which is what DL probably is doing.
 
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Re: Rumor: Delta Looking To Acquire Airbus A350-1000

Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:34 pm

I'm not trying to be a Debbie-downer. I wish Delta, British Airways and United had replaced their 744s with even more 748s. I wish more 380s could have been sold. I hope that tons of 35Ks and 77Xs are sold - that would be awesome. But I see a world where safe and boring is happening. More 789s and 78Js and 359s and WAY too many boring 321neos. Smoking hot deals? Maybe that'll be enough and Delta will bite, but it would be a change in their route/size philosophy.

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Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos