OA260 wrote:

EK770 wrote:

Jake801 wrote:

DUB-JFK must be able to support a 3rd daily with the LR, if the daytime rotation didn't work then why not an evening departure 19:00 or 20:00 from DUB, like they have in LHR. Would require a very late, nearly 00:00 departure from JFK but its still doable, land back in DUB late morning do a loop or two to LHR or EU and repeat.

Alternatively, with a later departure ex DUB to JFK e.g. 2000 dep 2230 arr, they could overnight in JFK for a daylight 0700 dep-1800 arr on the return to DUB.

0900 / 2000 would be better

Indeed, but then you'd need another a/c to do another round trip in 24 hours. Perhaps a later dep ex DUB could be possible, but I don't think many would like to be landing in NYC after midnight ... EI nightstopping in JFK is unlikely to ever happen anyway

The problem with nightstopping in the US for EI is that it also represents bad utilization. The likes of BA and VS have intercontinental flights that the aircraft can then be sent on to, right up to 11pm. For EI, it does not have any of this, so the acft would leave JFK at (say) 10am, arriving into DUB at c.2100 and then, that's it - no t/a flight possible until the next day and no short haul FAO/AGP possible at that late hour either.

EK770 wrote:

OA260 wrote:

EK770 wrote:

Alternatively, with a later departure ex DUB to JFK e.g. 2000 dep 2230 arr, they could overnight in JFK for a daylight 0700 dep-1800 arr on the return to DUB.

0900 / 2000 would be better

Indeed, but then you'd need another a/c to do another round trip in 24 hours. Perhaps a later dep ex DUB could be possible, but I don't think many would like to be landing in NYC after midnight ... EI nightstopping in JFK is unlikely to ever happen anyway

Maybe they will stick with this :


"Dublin to New York at 7.50 am
With the addition of this early morning service from Dublin, we will now operate three daily flights to John F. Kennedy airport next summer. The daily flight will depart Dublin airport at 07:50 and arrive into JFK airport at 10:20 local time. The return flight departs New York at 12:00 arriving into Dublin at 23:40, on the same day."

https://www.aerlingus.com/about-us/aer- ... ht-to-jfk/

Aer Lingus have ordered another 2x A320neo per Airbus November order page.

https://www.airbus.com/en/products-serv ... deliveries

sorry this might of been discussed before, if so please forgive me. My sister is trying to book some flights to Boston for October next year and there don't appear to be any EI flights on sale. JFK and ORD are on sale but not BOS does anyone know why?

Thanks

Alex

Michael O’Leary to remain at Ryanair until 2028

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/202 ... ntil-2028/

The board has raised the profit target to €2.2BN.

EI321 wrote:

Aer Lingus have ordered another 2x A320neo per Airbus November order page.

https://www.airbus.com/en/products-serv ... deliveries

So, to confirm the current total of EI A32N orders: 4 from Smartavia (two already delivered), 2 direct from Airbus? How many from IAG?

Aer Lingus cabin crew manager loses discrimination case over uniform rules

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2022/1 ... r-uniform/

Interesting case and ruling .

richcandy wrote:

sorry this might of been discussed before, if so please forgive me. My sister is trying to book some flights to Boston for October next year and there don't appear to be any EI flights on sale. JFK and ORD are on sale but not BOS does anyone know why?

They probably just haven't been loaded into the system yet.

BOS always operates and it won't be pulled, so it just hasn't been loaded.

It'll pop up soon enough

FR add SNN-Liverpool and transfer ORK-Venice to Treviso.

https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status/16 ... 1080643584

FR said last week they were close to a deal to base a 3 a/c at Cork so hopefully they will be in line for some new routes next year.

ClassicLover wrote:

richcandy wrote:

sorry this might of been discussed before, if so please forgive me. My sister is trying to book some flights to Boston for October next year and there don't appear to be any EI flights on sale. JFK and ORD are on sale but not BOS does anyone know why?

They probably just haven't been loaded into the system yet.

BOS always operates and it won't be pulled, so it just hasn't been loaded.

It'll pop up soon enough

Its on sale into November.

kaitak wrote:

EI321 wrote:

Aer Lingus have ordered another 2x A320neo per Airbus November order page.

https://www.airbus.com/en/products-serv ... deliveries

So, to confirm the current total of EI A32N orders: 4 from Smartavia (two already delivered), 2 direct from Airbus? How many from IAG?

I think its as follows,
2x delivered (ex Smartavia) in service.
2x on order (ex Smartavia) in storage, seems to be a delay in paperwork with these.
4x on order direct from Airbus

Pilots forced to take action after five planes targeted by lasers over Dublin in one night

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/n ... 06697.html

Hopefully they can try track these people down

FR providing updates on DUB security operational lanes, yet they have not gotten the first wave of flights away. Most 3-4 hours late…

Everyone else had some issues but not as bad.

daa have really dug deep into their photo archives for this gem on a tweet today https://twitter.com/DublinAirport/status/1601166073331523584, AA B777 in old colours and 2 BA B744 - that's going back a good few years. They must have some better images of a cold and icy DUB!

aireuropef100 wrote:

daa have really dug deep into their photo archives for this gem on a tweet today https://twitter.com/DublinAirport/status/1601166073331523584, AA B777 in old colours and 2 BA B744 - that's going back a good few years. They must have some better images of a cold and icy DUB!

Still its nice to see old pics especially showing rare visitors.

aireuropef100 wrote:

daa have really dug deep into their photo archives for this gem on a tweet today https://twitter.com/DublinAirport/status/1601166073331523584, AA B777 in old colours and 2 BA B744 - that's going back a good few years. They must have some better images of a cold and icy DUB!

Just before T2 opened to the public IIRC. One of the BA 747s anti-icing failed and it got stuck here when a second weather front came through, they had to bring it into Hangar 6 for a couple of days.

I think that's the same day the Virgin A346 got stranded after landing in LHR in a whiteout for several hours.

JAmie2k9 wrote:

FR providing updates on DUB security operational lanes, yet they have not gotten the first wave of flights away. Most 3-4 hours late…

Everyone else had some issues but not as bad.

Ryanair taking a fair hammering on social media. People claiming they’ve been stuck on flights for hours with no refreshments, updates etc.

Maybe Ryanair’s Twitter team shouldn’t be throwing stones from their glass house

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Eirules wrote:

JAmie2k9 wrote:

FR providing updates on DUB security operational lanes, yet they have not gotten the first wave of flights away. Most 3-4 hours late…

Everyone else had some issues but not as bad.

Ryanair taking a fair hammering on social media. People claiming they’ve been stuck on flights for hours with no refreshments, updates etc.

Maybe Ryanair’s Twitter team shouldn’t be throwing stones from their glass house

They claim only small number of delays and cancellations beyond there control.

https://twitter.com/ryanair/status/1601 ... 8CDoKVe0hg

JAmie2k9 wrote:

[twoid][/twoid]

Eirules wrote:

JAmie2k9 wrote:

FR providing updates on DUB security operational lanes, yet they have not gotten the first wave of flights away. Most 3-4 hours late…

Everyone else had some issues but not as bad.

Ryanair taking a fair hammering on social media. People claiming they’ve been stuck on flights for hours with no refreshments, updates etc.

Maybe Ryanair’s Twitter team shouldn’t be throwing stones from their glass house

They claim only small number of delays and cancellations beyond there control.

https://twitter.com/ryanair/status/1601 ... 8CDoKVe0hg

I make lots of claims to my other half…

80 departure flights, including ones operated by Aer Lingus and Ryanair, have been delayed so far today, while four Aer Lingus and five Ryanair flights have been cancelled.

https://www.independent.ie/life/travel/ ... 07869.html

Delays ongoing and some cancellations

aireuropef100 wrote:

daa have really dug deep into their photo archives for this gem on a tweet today https://twitter.com/DublinAirport/status/1601166073331523584, AA B777 in old colours and 2 BA B744 - that's going back a good few years. They must have some better images of a cold and icy DUB!

The Indo also as a photo of SNN when referring to the DUB delays:
https://www.independent.ie/life/travel/ ... 07869.html

Incidentally, most of this morning's departures from SNN also experienced delays (some up to 90mins)...are we really that ill-prepared to deal with a (relatively minor cold snap)?

aireuropef100 wrote:

daa have really dug deep into their photo archives for this gem on a tweet today https://twitter.com/DublinAirport/status/1601166073331523584, AA B777 in old colours and 2 BA B744 - that's going back a good few years. They must have some better images of a cold and icy DUB!

December 2010, it would appear. https://flic.kr/p/935n2w

It seems 143 flights were cancelled into and out of DUB today .

iRISH251 wrote:

aireuropef100 wrote:

daa have really dug deep into their photo archives for this gem on a tweet today https://twitter.com/DublinAirport/status/1601166073331523584, AA B777 in old colours and 2 BA B744 - that's going back a good few years. They must have some better images of a cold and icy DUB!

December 2010, it would appear. https://flic.kr/p/935n2w

They looked in their archive for a photo that suited the story "snow" "delays" "aircraft" "airport"

Ryanair have cancelled quite a few flights this morning where as Aer Lingus seem to be operating as normal. The 117 to IAD is cancelled .

OA260 wrote:

Ryanair have cancelled quite a few flights this morning where as Aer Lingus seem to be operating as normal. The 117 to IAD is cancelled .

I wonder if Ryanair are short on de-icer staff this year?

It appears ORK-NCL is no longer bookable for the Summer season. SNN-NCL replaces it, 3x weekly early morning flights. 2x weekly by an SNN based aircraft and once by NCL. Its an interesting swap, I don't think SNN-NCL has operated at all in recent times?

Clydenairways wrote:

OA260 wrote:

Ryanair have cancelled quite a few flights this morning where as Aer Lingus seem to be operating as normal. The 117 to IAD is cancelled .

I wonder if Ryanair are short on de-icer staff this year?

Is de-icing done by ground handling agents/airlines at DUB, or by the DAA? This does vary from airport to airport, as far as I know.

BrianDromey wrote:

It appears ORK-NCL is no longer bookable for the Summer season. SNN-NCL replaces it, 3x weekly early morning flights. 2x weekly by an SNN based aircraft and once by NCL. Its an interesting swap, I don't think SNN-NCL has operated at all in recent times?

Clydenairways wrote:

OA260 wrote:

Ryanair have cancelled quite a few flights this morning where as Aer Lingus seem to be operating as normal. The 117 to IAD is cancelled .

I wonder if Ryanair are short on de-icer staff this year?

Is de-icing done by ground handling agents/airlines at DUB, or by the DAA? This does vary from airport to airport, as far as I know.

Ground agents, although Ryanair self handle in DUB so they can’t blame anyone else.

HTCone wrote:

Ground agents, although Ryanair self handle in DUB so they can’t blame anyone else.

Thanks for that. Indeed Ryanair do self handle - but I imagine they will want to portray this as a freak weather event out of their control for EU261 purposes. Bit of a grey area isn’t it? The eastern seaboard doesn’t often get such extreme cold weather. Equally keeping people on an aircraft for 6 hours is unacceptable. The US has strict rules about this kind of thing. Refreshments at 2 hours, be let off by 3. In the US your baggage can travel separately so they don’t have to rummage around in the hold for your bags either.

Which brings a random thought to my head. In the day and age of suicide bombers and CT scanned luggage, does keeping passengers and their bags together offer any real risk reduction? Are there operational benefits to allowing bags to travel separately in normal ops?

I see that the infamous EI-EIL is headed to BOD today. Wonder what the chances of seeing a cabin refit are.

YUAND wrote:

I see that the infamous EI-EIL is headed to BOD today. Wonder what the chances of seeing a cabin refit are.

Pretty low if it is not to be retained longer-term by EI, as I have seen suggested elsewhere.

Some good deals on Aer Lingus in business class from BUD in the winter -

Washington €1,117 (478,954 HUF) - that's very cheap for EI J
Chicago €1,331
New York €1,415

I thought this was an interesting article in teh context of the ex-Smartavia A32N's for EI.
https://runwaygirlnetwork.com/2022/12/q ... -shipsets/
[=Quote]"Under SPRINT, lessors can customize Recaro’s BL3530 with one of five different predefined e-leather dress covers: light blue, dark blue, light grey, dark grey or red."[/Quote]
I guess that explains the rather dour cabin on the former Smartavia frames. I doubt the IAG direct orders will be much more inspiring, but power and Wi-Fi are likely. A few rows of Pinnacles (The BA Club seat, also seen on IB) could happen too. Vueling does without them, so its probably less likely.

EI321 wrote:

I think its as follows,
2x delivered (ex Smartavia) in service.
2x on order (ex Smartavia) in storage, seems to be a delay in paperwork with these.
4x on order direct from Airbus

It's hard to be sure if the 2 in the IAG investors presentation are in addition to the 2 already attributed to EI from an earlier IAG order or not. I assume it's additional, otherwise they would not have mentioned them, so I think thats right.
https://www.aviacionline.com/2022/10/an ... -a320neos/
This article gives an interesting insight into how much the NEO's save over the CEO's just in LHR landing fees. Its 1295.52 cheaper on the NEO compared to the CEO. Assuming EI is using all the 316 slots pairs assigned to them, the direct saving is over £10.6 million per annum. That is before the lower maintenance and fuel costs of the NEO are taken into account and the higher leasing costs, of course.

AA have upgraded DFW-DUB-DFW to 789 from 788 for S23.
789 bookable as of today. Bye bye rear facing Business Class seats.
More Business Class seats, but 1 less row of Premium Economy.
Source https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/221211-aans23inc

IrishTexan wrote:

AA have upgraded DFW-DUB-DFW to 789 from 788 for S23.
789 bookable as of today. Bye bye rear facing Business Class seats.
More Business Class seats, but 1 less row of Premium Economy.
Source https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/221211-aans23inc

Great news. Be fantastic if it went year round

BrianDromey wrote:

This article gives an interesting insight into how much the NEO's save over the CEO's just in LHR landing fees. Its 1295.52 cheaper on the NEO compared to the CEO. Assuming EI is using all the 316 slots pairs assigned to them, the direct saving is over £10.6 million per annum. That is before the lower maintenance and fuel costs of the NEO are taken into account and the higher leasing costs, of course.

Excellent information.

iRISH251 wrote:

YUAND wrote:

I see that the infamous EI-EIL is headed to BOD today. Wonder what the chances of seeing a cabin refit are.

Pretty low if it is not to be retained longer-term by EI, as I have seen suggested elsewhere.

I can see EI hanging on to those 2 airframes for a few years more. Lesasing costs are low and they do the job for EI. (maybe not for their customers thought)
And probably adding 2-3 more older A330s in 2024/25.

just an observation: ei-dvl used on dub-lhr today so despite the cost savings of a Neo they still use older 320s on the route.

PhilipBass wrote:

just an observation: ei-dvl used on dub-lhr today so despite the cost savings of a Neo they still use older 320s on the route.

I don't think two frames is enough to cover all heathrow flights. There's also a Shannon service which originates in Heathrow, that the Neos are covering.

Potentially route news from Aer Lingus today.

EI add Kos, Olbia and resume Brindisi.

Due to snow and ice quite a few EI/EIR cancellations today. It seems passengers are having issues rebooking even via the call centers as Aer Lingus are not updating the bookings. Passengers getting through to the call center and being told their flights are not cancelled when they are.

JAmie2k9 wrote:

EI add Kos, Olbia and resume Brindisi.

All holiday routes rather than routes which will add to the transatlantic connections

The Dublin Airport Authority (DAA) has opened a “review” into how flight paths from its new north runway have unexpectedly directed aircraft over villages causing noise disruption.

https://www.irishtimes.com/environment/ ... -villages/


Looks like no more early flights over that direction until its resolved.

OA260 wrote:

The Dublin Airport Authority (DAA) has opened a “review” into how flight paths from its new north runway have unexpectedly directed aircraft over villages causing noise disruption.

https://www.irishtimes.com/environment/ ... -villages/


Looks like no more early flights over that direction until its resolved.

Did they really introduce the early right turns without discussion with the locals? If they did, it's stupidity/arrogance of the highest order.

EI Dublin to Alicante, Gran Canaria, Tenerife, Perpignan, Izmir, Bordeaux, and Athens are all getting increased service next Summer and AGP getting a
32% increase.

The LAX route will be upgraded.

OA260 wrote:

EI Dublin to Alicante, Gran Canaria, Tenerife, Perpignan, Izmir, Bordeaux, and Athens are all getting increased service next Summer and AGP getting a
32% increase.

The LAX route will be upgraded.

What do you mean by upgraded? It operated daily on a -300 this summer. Extra frequency?

Great to see additional routes and frequency being introduced!

nrm2004 wrote:

OA260 wrote:

EI Dublin to Alicante, Gran Canaria, Tenerife, Perpignan, Izmir, Bordeaux, and Athens are all getting increased service next Summer and AGP getting a
32% increase.

The LAX route will be upgraded.

What do you mean by upgraded? It operated daily on a -300 this summer. Extra frequency?

Great to see additional routes and frequency being introduced!

Maybe because it used to be a 332 route and is staying with a 333 even after 332s return?

From what I remember, routes flown by EI in S19 that have not been reintroduced yet include:
MPL
CTA
PUY
OPO
(STR?)

Probably missing a few

OA260 wrote:

Due to snow and ice quite a few EI/EIR cancellations today. It seems passengers are having issues rebooking even via the call centers as Aer Lingus are not updating the bookings. Passengers getting through to the call center and being told their flights are not cancelled when they are.

How, in this day and age, that passengers cannot rebook online themselves is beyond me. US airlines are all able to offer such services, and are way better at keeping passengers up to date. I know EI is a small fish, but IAG is not. Huge room for improvement with IRROPs.

Eirules wrote:

JAmie2k9 wrote:

EI add Kos, Olbia and resume Brindisi.

All holiday routes rather than routes which will add to the transatlantic connections

Holiday routes have much higher return than connections, so I don't blame EI for going where the cash is. They've no problem filling transatlantic in the summer with the connections they have (although I'd love to see more connections offered all the same).