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melpax wrote:Pre-flight COVID testing required for arrivals from China from January 5.
This also includes arrivals from Hong Kong & Macau.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/covi ... 5c9q0.html
zkncj wrote:melpax wrote:Pre-flight COVID testing required for arrivals from China from January 5.
This also includes arrivals from Hong Kong & Macau.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/covi ... 5c9q0.html
Hopefully this is just a knee jerk reaction, and quickly gets removed again.
qf789 wrote:As per the usual January thread what’s everyone’s predictions for the year
Tomotron wrote:qf789 wrote:As per the usual January thread what’s everyone’s predictions for the year
Bonza will fail to get off the ground. Sadly, their business model (which is based off FR) won't work in Australia due to a near-zero population density in places they want to target.
qf789 wrote:As per the usual January thread what’s everyone’s predictions for the year
zkncj wrote:Tomotron wrote:qf789 wrote:As per the usual January thread what’s everyone’s predictions for the year
Bonza will fail to get off the ground. Sadly, their business model (which is based off FR) won't work in Australia due to a near-zero population density in places they want to target.
I’d suspect that VA is watching very closely, and waiting to snap up those 737-8s of Bonza’s (and any flight crew they have).
Sadly Australia / Indonesia, have passenger caps. Otherwise Bonza might of been better off focusing on budget travel to DPS.
Obzerva wrote:qf789 wrote:As per the usual January thread what’s everyone’s predictions for the year
Will be interesting to see how Bonza go, I’m not confident in the business model, happen to be proven wrong!
VA float, maybe mid year, by year end we may see an adjustment in focus
Introduction/announcement of a few new more skinny Asian routes/Pacific Island eg DRW-SIN already announced.
Think we’ll see the return on the Chinese airlines in force by the end of the year, CX too
Intl fares to come down a bit, based on the extra seats from the Chinese airlines
QF to tease the media re Project Sunrise with announcements of announcements
Also expect at least a few stories negative media articles re the introduction of the 737 MAX to the Australian register, even though other airlines already fly them to Australia…
ASOSpotter wrote:zkncj wrote:melpax wrote:Pre-flight COVID testing required for arrivals from China from January 5.
This also includes arrivals from Hong Kong & Macau.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/covi ... 5c9q0.html
Hopefully this is just a knee jerk reaction, and quickly gets removed again.
Lets hope not, nearly every Western Country is doing it now, and to be honest I'd like borders to remain open. Anything to stop this thing coming out in force again is a thumbs up so I can travel again.
EK413 wrote:Obzerva wrote:qf789 wrote:As per the usual January thread what’s everyone’s predictions for the year
Will be interesting to see how Bonza go, I’m not confident in the business model, happen to be proven wrong!
VA float, maybe mid year, by year end we may see an adjustment in focus
Introduction/announcement of a few new more skinny Asian routes/Pacific Island eg DRW-SIN already announced.
Think we’ll see the return on the Chinese airlines in force by the end of the year, CX too
Intl fares to come down a bit, based on the extra seats from the Chinese airlines
QF to tease the media re Project Sunrise with announcements of announcements
Also expect at least a few stories negative media articles re the introduction of the 737 MAX to the Australian register, even though other airlines already fly them to Australia…
Happy New Year too All… C word isn’t welcome in any discussions this year…
Personally I was never confident in their business model as the aircraft type and markets it will serve on just didn’t make a great deal of sense whatsoever… Perhaps an aircraft within the E90’s capacity would’ve been better suited to their markets not B737Maxs… Just my personal opinion…
EK413
atal17 wrote:It seems ANA may be considering returning to Perth soon - NH has expanded their codeshare partnership with VA, with many of the new routes originating from Perth
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230101-nhva
qf789 wrote:As per the usual January thread what’s everyone’s predictions for the year
angusjt wrote:qf789 wrote:As per the usual January thread what’s everyone’s predictions for the year
Some thoughts, from least to most ambitious
- NH return to Perth (a given with the codeshare announcement)
- Testing requirements for travellers coming from China dropped within 2 months
- Qantas & Perth Airport will finally come to some agreement which facilitates permanent PER-JNB flights
- Bonza enter the market around July, will leave the market within a year
- Qantas announce a Fokker 100 replacement, converting a few A320Neos to A319Neos to do so
- DRW-SIN is successful, Qantas enter DRW-CGK with E190s
- Turkish enters the market with seasonal IST-PER services and codeshare with VA (have to say something ambitious)
zkncj wrote:https://www.9news.com.au/national/gold-coast-helicopters-major-incident-main-beach/a0cce383-ae23-47ae-ba3f-180e8129ef48
Still a developing story, but seems that two helicopters have collided outside sea world this afternoon on the Gold Coast.
bunumuring wrote:Hey guys,
Re 2023... My predictions:
* Qantas to have some Indigenous imagery 'makeovers' (starting inside the cabin) designed by a prominent Indigenous artist ...
* perhaps with links to the above, a subtle 'Rainbow Roo II' is rolled out in the very near future to promote WorldPride ...
* Qantas and Virgin to announce at least one new international route each within the next twelve weeks ... And another new one for Qantas about two months after that ...
Deano969 wrote:bunumuring wrote:Hey guys,
Re 2023... My predictions:
* Qantas to have some Indigenous imagery 'makeovers' (starting inside the cabin) designed by a prominent Indigenous artist ...
* perhaps with links to the above, a subtle 'Rainbow Roo II' is rolled out in the very near future to promote WorldPride ...
* Qantas and Virgin to announce at least one new international route each within the next twelve weeks ... And another new one for Qantas about two months after that ...
* Qantas to have some Indigenous imagery 'makeovers' (starting inside the cabin) designed by a prominent Indigenous artist ... Yawn, just jumping on the "woke" bandwagon
* perhaps with links to the above, a subtle 'Rainbow Roo II' is rolled out in the very near future to promote WorldPride ... ditto
* (edit) Qantas to announce at least one new international or domestic route within the next 2 weeks ... And more new ones for Qantas about two weeks after that , then quietly drop them every 2 weeks after just 2 months of operations
EG
Perth Rome
Perth Johannesburg
Perth Jakarta (never started)
Melbourne Mount Gambia and Wagga
SYD / BNE Cooma
smi0006 wrote:- VA;
Potentially return to PI - APW/TBU, I don’t see any major fleet announcements, they will release their new max interiors, and continue with their lounge refresh program. Some enhancements to velocity.
getluv wrote:
Others:
NH (PER-HND), QH, AA (BNE-LAX), KE (MEL-ICN), AI, SQ and low cost Asian airlines to boost services to AU.
An767 wrote:QF & VA announcing new international routes, maybe. But where are VA going to send yet another 738 or max. Still doubt Cairns Haneda will hang around for too long, that was simply slot hogging with the added bonus of some $$ by the QLD government , who have already pumped enough $$ into them.
Deano969 wrote:bunumuring wrote:Hey guys,
Re 2023... My predictions:
* Qantas to have some Indigenous imagery 'makeovers' (starting inside the cabin) designed by a prominent Indigenous artist ...
* perhaps with links to the above, a subtle 'Rainbow Roo II' is rolled out in the very near future to promote WorldPride ...
* Qantas and Virgin to announce at least one new international route each within the next twelve weeks ... And another new one for Qantas about two months after that ...
* Qantas to have some Indigenous imagery 'makeovers' (starting inside the cabin) designed by a prominent Indigenous artist ... Yawn, just jumping on the "woke" bandwagon
* perhaps with links to the above, a subtle 'Rainbow Roo II' is rolled out in the very near future to promote WorldPride ... ditto
* (edit) Qantas to announce at least one new international or domestic route within the next 2 weeks ... And more new ones for Qantas about two weeks after that , then quietly drop them every 2 weeks after just 2 months of operations
EG
Perth Rome
Perth Johannesburg
Perth Jakarta (never started)
Melbourne Mount Gambia and Wagga
SYD / BNE Cooma
getluv wrote:I believe NH will split PER (3 services) and SYD (11 services). SYD-NRT is more likely than PER-NRT.
QF will continue to struggle with aircraft availability so AA also assuming a seasonal BNE-LAX a few times a week seems likely. QF was serving BNE-LAX 11x over summer 19/20 if I remember correctly with B747s and B787s. I don't think AA's 787s can do DFW-BNE (happy to be corrected).
smi0006 wrote:getluv wrote:I believe NH will split PER (3 services) and SYD (11 services). SYD-NRT is more likely than PER-NRT.
QF will continue to struggle with aircraft availability so AA also assuming a seasonal BNE-LAX a few times a week seems likely. QF was serving BNE-LAX 11x over summer 19/20 if I remember correctly with B747s and B787s. I don't think AA's 787s can do DFW-BNE (happy to be corrected).
Isn’t there an issue with AA crew and ULH flying? I vaguely recall they can’t make AU-DFW it’s too many duty hours for cabin crew…. Could be my misunderstanding though. Be interesting to see if AA steps into contribute more with QF, as you flag with QF constrained they do risk cede more market to UA/VA. Could a QF 330 make SFO? Maybe swap AA for lax and QF move to BNE-SFO?
qf789 wrote:As per the usual January thread what’s everyone’s predictions for the year
smi0006 wrote:Deano969 wrote:bunumuring wrote:Hey guys,
Re 2023... My predictions:
* Qantas to have some Indigenous imagery 'makeovers' (starting inside the cabin) designed by a prominent Indigenous artist ...
* perhaps with links to the above, a subtle 'Rainbow Roo II' is rolled out in the very near future to promote WorldPride ...
* Qantas and Virgin to announce at least one new international route each within the next twelve weeks ... And another new one for Qantas about two months after that ...
* Qantas to have some Indigenous imagery 'makeovers' (starting inside the cabin) designed by a prominent Indigenous artist ... Yawn, just jumping on the "woke" bandwagon
* perhaps with links to the above, a subtle 'Rainbow Roo II' is rolled out in the very near future to promote WorldPride ... ditto
* (edit) Qantas to announce at least one new international or domestic route within the next 2 weeks ... And more new ones for Qantas about two weeks after that , then quietly drop them every 2 weeks after just 2 months of operations
EG
Perth Rome
Perth Johannesburg
Perth Jakarta (never started)
Melbourne Mount Gambia and Wagga
SYD / BNE Cooma
Indigenous art- woke bandwagon? Wasn’t Wunala dreaming 25-30yrs ago? And the 737s over the years, 789? And the aboriginal uniforms maybe 15-20yrs? QF have been working in collaboration with indigenous design houses for before anyone used the word woke. Why is a rainbow roo for world pride any different than a Dubai expo logo on an EK aircraft? Hardly woke, just promoting a large tourist drawcard.
Rome was always seasonal, and is due back this year no? JNB, and CGK- ex PER were dropped for facilitation issues not commercial. Can’t comment on the regional routes.
getluv wrote:smi0006 wrote:getluv wrote:I believe NH will split PER (3 services) and SYD (11 services). SYD-NRT is more likely than PER-NRT.
QF will continue to struggle with aircraft availability so AA also assuming a seasonal BNE-LAX a few times a week seems likely. QF was serving BNE-LAX 11x over summer 19/20 if I remember correctly with B747s and B787s. I don't think AA's 787s can do DFW-BNE (happy to be corrected).
Isn’t there an issue with AA crew and ULH flying? I vaguely recall they can’t make AU-DFW it’s too many duty hours for cabin crew…. Could be my misunderstanding though. Be interesting to see if AA steps into contribute more with QF, as you flag with QF constrained they do risk cede more market to UA/VA. Could a QF 330 make SFO? Maybe swap AA for lax and QF move to BNE-SFO?
Could be AA crew but I don't think AA's 787s were customised to do 15hrs+ without significant payload restrictions.
QF need to get rid of the A330s off mainland US routes asap. While the strong USD has significantly weakened demand, their premium demand hasn't taken a hit. I would think restoring SYD-SFO, SYD-DFW, MEL-LAX to daily and BNE-ORD would be a higher priority than BNE-SFO, especially if QF/AA can get BNE-LAX back to pre-COVID levels.
PR211 wrote:My prediction for 2023 is regarding NTL. Wouldn't be surprised to see at least 1 if not 2 International destinations commence. I'll go with a Pacific island and Singapore as my first two bets.
ABpositive wrote:PR211 wrote:My prediction for 2023 is regarding NTL. Wouldn't be surprised to see at least 1 if not 2 International destinations commence. I'll go with a Pacific island and Singapore as my first two bets.
What are the costs to accommodate international operations (border controls, customs, dedicated areas, etc)? Would this really make it worthwhile?
smi0006 wrote:getluv wrote:I believe NH will split PER (3 services) and SYD (11 services). SYD-NRT is more likely than PER-NRT.
QF will continue to struggle with aircraft availability so AA also assuming a seasonal BNE-LAX a few times a week seems likely. QF was serving BNE-LAX 11x over summer 19/20 if I remember correctly with B747s and B787s. I don't think AA's 787s can do DFW-BNE (happy to be corrected).
Isn’t there an issue with AA crew and ULH flying? I vaguely recall they can’t make AU-DFW it’s too many duty hours for cabin crew…. Could be my misunderstanding though. Be interesting to see if AA steps into contribute more with QF, as you flag with QF constrained they do risk cede more market to UA/VA. Could a QF 330 make SFO? Maybe swap AA for lax and QF move to BNE-SFO?
zkncj wrote:2023 Predictions
- NZ to launch an 3x week AKL-AVV service (in late 22 NZ said there were in talks with AVV).
- AKL-MCY/HBA moves to daily year round.