Emirates News and Discussion - 2023

janders · Sat Dec 31, 2022 6:01 pm

Welcome to the Emirates News and Discussion Thread - 2023.

Please continue to post your comments below.

Link to last years thread:
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xwb777 · Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:46 pm

A6-EVM is now retrofitted with the four class configuration: Next flight will be to LHR.

JerseyFlyer · Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:46 pm

More detail about the retrofit here:

https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/e ... 44.article

67 A380s and 53 77Ws to receive these upgrades.

Intriguing to me in that there was a lot of talk at one time suggesting that this level of re-fit was "too expensive" on an A380

MrBryan86 · Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:02 pm

JerseyFlyer wrote:
More detail about the retrofit here:

https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/e ... 44.article

67 A380s and 53 77Ws to receive these upgrades.

Intriguing to me in that there was a lot of talk at one time suggesting that this level of re-fit was "too expensive" on an A380

Considering Airbus hasn’t taken the bait to produce a new updated A380, and with the next biggest aircraft being the 779 which doesn’t help the situation by being years behind schedule, I don’t think EK have much choice but to retain and refit their A380s, just to keep up with the ever growing demand beyond the “initial” lifespan.

loalq · Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:09 pm

At this stage its clear we better give up waiting for EK to have a half-decent business class anytime soon, as they have basically retained that crappy design (with different colors…) in this refurb…

Who even thinks that the hot drink deposit is relevant at this point? Has the be stupidest idea to ever be implemented on a business class seat…

Noshow · Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:18 pm

With Emirates fleet needs it looks like they might use all available flight hours and cycles on their A380 fleet. Is Airbus done with all the structural life, life cycle extension and service life research now that the prototypes move on to fuel cell test work?

xwb777 · Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:07 pm

Up next for makeover is A6-EOW.

xwb777 · Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:32 am

Emirates A380 to TPE starting from 01AUG23.

AirIndia · Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:11 am

This interview with EK CCO has some news on the near future.

https://gulfnews.com/business/aviation/ ... tdiscovery

behramjee · Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:26 am

any update on the possibility of Dubai-India bilateral seats being increased during the first half of 2023?

Malayil · Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:03 am

AirIndia wrote:
This interview with EK CCO has some news on the near future.

https://gulfnews.com/business/aviation/ ... tdiscovery

Interesting no mention of expansion or increasing frequencies in North America.

xwb777 · Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:03 am

Emirates to start daily nonstop flights to Hong Kong starting from 30MAR23.

JannEejit · Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:11 am

Does anyone have a list of pre-pandemic A380 services that are yet to be reinstated to A380, and what (if any) 2023 reinstatements are due ?

DCA350 · Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:17 am

When do the A350s arrive? End of this year or 2024?

FrenchPotatoEye · Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:07 pm

DCA350 wrote:
When do the A350s arrive? End of this year or 2024?

Q3 24

xwb777 · Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:07 pm

Still no news regarding the B789 order! Could the entire order be cancelled?

mercure1 · Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:35 pm

Will resume service to Tokyo-Haneda starting April 2nd with B777.

http://www.tradearabia.com/news/TTN_405166.html

FrenchPotatoEye · Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:35 pm

xwb777 wrote:
Still no news regarding the B789 order! Could the entire order be cancelled?

Ni news is good news.

Besides, if cancel, would they the lose piossible compensation. Monies?

MileHFL400 · Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:05 pm

Does A6-EPS have the game changer interior?

xwb777 · Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:23 pm

Emirates A380 to GLA starting from 26MAR23.

chrisnh · Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:59 pm

JannEejit wrote:
Does anyone have a list of pre-pandemic A380 services that are yet to be reinstated to A380, and what (if any) 2023 reinstatements are due ?

Pretty pessimistic about BOS. I guess demand doesn’t warrant it anymore.

FrenchPotatoEye · Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:33 pm

xwb777 wrote:
Emirates A380 to GLA starting from 26MAR23.

Also at the BHX July 2023.

xwb777 · Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:56 pm

Emirates A380 to Nice, France, starting from 01JUN23 and to BHX starting from 01JUL23.

FrenchPotatoEye · Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:57 pm

xwb777 wrote:
Emirates A380 to Nice, France, starting from 01JUN23 and to BHX starting from 01JUL23.

Is bhx 380 double daily?

dc10bhx · Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:55 pm

FrenchPotatoEye wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
Emirates A380 to Nice, France, starting from 01JUN23 and to BHX starting from 01JUL23.

Is bhx 380 double daily?

Thankfully BHX will still have 1 x 777 service coming in. Personally I prefer what we have at the moment (2 x 777 flights). As a freight forwarder this suits better for capacity than having the A380 back in.

Ah well it was good while it lasted.

xwb777 · Fri Jan 13, 2023 3:40 pm

Emirates will go double daily to London STN starting from 01MAY23. This brings the total flights to London to 11 daily.

JannEejit · Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:21 pm

xwb777 wrote:
Emirates A380 to GLA starting from 26MAR23.

Ah yes, I see that listed now.

xijiayu · Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:33 pm

Strange that they go for 1x A380 daily before 2x B777 daily to Glasgow

JannEejit · Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:04 pm

xijiayu wrote:
Strange that they go for 1x A380 daily before 2x B777 daily to Glasgow

I'm assuming the rumoured EDI service will in effect be the old 2nd flight of the day. And most likely do the cargo lifting as well.

adamh8297 · Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:14 pm

chrisnh wrote:
JannEejit wrote:
Does anyone have a list of pre-pandemic A380 services that are yet to be reinstated to A380, and what (if any) 2023 reinstatements are due ?

Pretty pessimistic about BOS. I guess demand doesn’t warrant it anymore.

The tie up with UA doesn't help.

Also, it's possible EY considers AUH-BOS with their enhanced B6 partnership.

FrenchPotatoEye · Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:17 am

dc10bhx wrote:
FrenchPotatoEye wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
Emirates A380 to Nice, France, starting from 01JUN23 and to BHX starting from 01JUL23.

Is bhx 380 double daily?

Thankfully BHX will still have 1 x 777 service coming in. Personally I prefer what we have at the moment (2 x 777 flights). As a freight forwarder this suits better for capacity than having the A380 back in.

Ah well it was good while it lasted.

You thinks ek ever go back to 3 daily?

AirBourne · Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:26 am

FrenchPotatoEye wrote:
dc10bhx wrote:
FrenchPotatoEye wrote:

Is bhx 380 double daily?

Thankfully BHX will still have 1 x 777 service coming in. Personally I prefer what we have at the moment (2 x 777 flights). As a freight forwarder this suits better for capacity than having the A380 back in.

Ah well it was good while it lasted.

You thinks ek ever go back to 3 daily?

There is certainly demand for more going east, it’s just a case of who. Turkish have been upgrading several of their flights to A330’s recently as PIA funnel their passengers through IST. Qatar are rumoured to be returning and there are suggestions Saudi are interested (both have applied for slots).

Malayil · Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:48 am

I wonder if we will see anymore UK expansion?

qantas330 · Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:42 pm

xwb777 wrote:
Up next for makeover is A6-EOW.

Pretty sure A6-EUW is next as EOW was in Manchester today

Airlinerdude · Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:14 am

EUW is fully refitted with premium economy now. It'll be returning to service shortly.

EDQ returned after spending two months in TLS for wing fixes.

EDY was removed from service and sent to TLS for wing fixes.

In total, there are 90/119 (76%) operational.

airsmiles · Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:16 am

Airlinerdude wrote:
In total, there are 90/119 (76%) operational.

That’s quite a sobering thought. Imagine another airline having 29 A380’s hanging around doing nothing for so long. Are they the oldest aircraft, whereby some might not make it back into service?

Newflyer2018 · Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:26 pm

Any new info on the retrofit program? It seems to be way behind schedule, so far only one aircraft has been confirmed and cities like Melbourne which was planned for 1st Feb still without premium economy.

mrkerr7474 · Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:25 pm

Any news on EK apppying for slots back at EDI? And when they may look to reinstate this service?

Magnum9 · Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:45 pm

adamh8297 wrote:
chrisnh wrote:
JannEejit wrote:
Does anyone have a list of pre-pandemic A380 services that are yet to be reinstated to A380, and what (if any) 2023 reinstatements are due ?

Pretty pessimistic about BOS. I guess demand doesn’t warrant it anymore.

The tie up with UA doesn't help.

Also, it's possible EY considers AUH-BOS with their enhanced B6 partnership.

Wondering if we’ll see EK shift the majority of their NYC services over to EWR with the new UA partnership and reduce JFK to 1x JFK-DXB non-stop & 1x JFK-MXP-DXB?

Given QR has downgauged BOS to the A359 and EK is only 1x 77W now is the time for EY to jump into BOS with the 789 to take advantage of the enhanced B6 partnership.

Avgeek21 · Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:03 am

Magnum9 wrote:
adamh8297 wrote:
chrisnh wrote:

Pretty pessimistic about BOS. I guess demand doesn’t warrant it anymore.

The tie up with UA doesn't help.

Also, it's possible EY considers AUH-BOS with their enhanced B6 partnership.

Wondering if we’ll see EK shift the majority of their NYC services over to EWR with the new UA partnership and reduce JFK to 1x JFK-DXB non-stop & 1x JFK-MXP-DXB?

Given QR has downgauged BOS to the A359 and EK is only 1x 77W now is the time for EY to jump into BOS with the 789 to take advantage of the enhanced B6 partnership.

Have you seen the loads to/from JFK?! If anything they’d expand in EWR alongside JFK. They’d be foolish to touch JFK.

Magnum9 · Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:50 pm

Avgeek21 wrote:
Magnum9 wrote:
adamh8297 wrote:

The tie up with UA doesn't help.

Also, it's possible EY considers AUH-BOS with their enhanced B6 partnership.

Wondering if we’ll see EK shift the majority of their NYC services over to EWR with the new UA partnership and reduce JFK to 1x JFK-DXB non-stop & 1x JFK-MXP-DXB?

Given QR has downgauged BOS to the A359 and EK is only 1x 77W now is the time for EY to jump into BOS with the 789 to take advantage of the enhanced B6 partnership.

Have you seen the loads to/from JFK?! If anything they’d expand in EWR alongside JFK. They’d be foolish to touch JFK.

No, but I’d be very curious to see EK’s loads for JFK and several other US stations. Can you please share your source for load data.

Avgeek21 · Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:42 am

Magnum9 wrote:
Avgeek21 wrote:
Magnum9 wrote:

Wondering if we’ll see EK shift the majority of their NYC services over to EWR with the new UA partnership and reduce JFK to 1x JFK-DXB non-stop & 1x JFK-MXP-DXB?

Given QR has downgauged BOS to the A359 and EK is only 1x 77W now is the time for EY to jump into BOS with the 789 to take advantage of the enhanced B6 partnership.

Have you seen the loads to/from JFK?! If anything they’d expand in EWR alongside JFK. They’d be foolish to touch JFK.

No, but I’d be very curious to see EK’s loads for JFK and several other US stations. Can you please share your source for load data.

No, I am not allowed to do so. But let’s say that I’ve been offloaded as staff more times than accepted on JFK, both ways. No payload restrictions.

Magnum9 · Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:35 am

Avgeek21 wrote:
Magnum9 wrote:
Avgeek21 wrote:

Have you seen the loads to/from JFK?! If anything they’d expand in EWR alongside JFK. They’d be foolish to touch JFK.

No, but I’d be very curious to see EK’s loads for JFK and several other US stations. Can you please share your source for load data.

No, I am not allowed to do so. But let’s say that I’ve been offloaded as staff more times than accepted on JFK, both ways. No payload restrictions.

Understood. Was really curious how BOS is doing overall? Hoping to see the return of the A380 but wasn’t sure if loads warranted it.

xwb777 · Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:02 am

EVC is next for retrofitting. It will be the ninth A380 with PE.

MAH4546 · Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:52 pm

Magnum9 wrote:
Avgeek21 wrote:
Magnum9 wrote:

Wondering if we’ll see EK shift the majority of their NYC services over to EWR with the new UA partnership and reduce JFK to 1x JFK-DXB non-stop & 1x JFK-MXP-DXB?

Given QR has downgauged BOS to the A359 and EK is only 1x 77W now is the time for EY to jump into BOS with the 789 to take advantage of the enhanced B6 partnership.

Have you seen the loads to/from JFK?! If anything they’d expand in EWR alongside JFK. They’d be foolish to touch JFK.

No, but I’d be very curious to see EK’s loads for JFK and several other US stations. Can you please share your source for load data.

In the U.S. load data is public information and can’t be withheld. It’s published in T100 stats which are reported to DOT.

KLM747er · Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:58 pm

A6-EUW is now more than halfway thru is first flight with the new PE as EK412 to SYD.

KLM747ER

Mistral1 · Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:25 pm

I’ve been told that EK plans to resume flights to SCL in mid 2023… anyone has more info?

qf789 · Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:07 pm

Emirates to go 4 daily on DXB-CAI from 29 October 2023

https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/e ... -to-cairo/

mapletux · Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:07 pm

Nigeria hopes that flights from Dubai-based Emirates will resume soon. Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari called for the airline's return last week and reportedly directed the Central Bank of Nigeria to make more foreign currency available to Emirates and other international airlines.

https://simpleflying.com/nigeria-reques ... e-flights/

smi0006 · Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:28 pm

Wonder if someone could help me understand EKs fleet strategy - are the 350s and 798 replacing the 77W with a loss of capacity? And 77X will replace the 380s - with DWC seemingly parked where will the DXB slots come from? Yet alone the likes of London or Tokyo airports etc.

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