behramjee wrote:Can someone briefly explain why MS used to fly to HGH and not PVG? Even in post covid era !
Slots. Same issue that Ethiopian used to have as well - they had to operate to Hangzhou rather than Shanghai until 2015.
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behramjee wrote:Can someone briefly explain why MS used to fly to HGH and not PVG? Even in post covid era !
yoshoward12 wrote:What is everyone’s thoughts about a tech/possible 5th freedom situation in Malta? It looks like ET could move stops to MLA from DUB.
B747-437B wrote:yoshoward12 wrote:What is everyone’s thoughts about a tech/possible 5th freedom situation in Malta? It looks like ET could move stops to MLA from DUB.
Malta is an excellent location for a tech stop with good geographic location (right on the Great Circle from Addis to North America), (relatively) cheap fuel, and most critically no winter issues that sometimes plague Dublin. They would switch in a hearbeat if the pieces came together, but it would be a pure tech stop rather than any sort of fifth freedoms.
berari wrote:B747-437B wrote:yoshoward12 wrote:What is everyone’s thoughts about a tech/possible 5th freedom situation in Malta? It looks like ET could move stops to MLA from DUB.
Malta is an excellent location for a tech stop with good geographic location (right on the Great Circle from Addis to North America), (relatively) cheap fuel, and most critically no winter issues that sometimes plague Dublin. They would switch in a hearbeat if the pieces came together, but it would be a pure tech stop rather than any sort of fifth freedoms.
With Dublin the flight to IAD had two relatively equidistant legs. With MLA the second leg would be much longer than the first. Any implications to number of crew, crew rest at IAD etc?
Worth noting that flying via MLA would shave off about 150 miles from the trip. Probably cheaper to operate at all around with benefits that Malta would pursue.
I thought the PM’s visit to Malta was strange, but there’s something bigger behind it.
berari wrote:With Dublin the flight to IAD had two relatively equidistant legs. With MLA the second leg would be much longer than the first. Any implications to number of crew, crew rest at IAD etc?
berari wrote:B747-437B wrote:yoshoward12 wrote:What is everyone’s thoughts about a tech/possible 5th freedom situation in Malta? It looks like ET could move stops to MLA from DUB.
Malta is an excellent location for a tech stop with good geographic location (right on the Great Circle from Addis to North America), (relatively) cheap fuel, and most critically no winter issues that sometimes plague Dublin. They would switch in a hearbeat if the pieces came together, but it would be a pure tech stop rather than any sort of fifth freedoms.
With Dublin the flight to IAD had two relatively equidistant legs. With MLA the second leg would be much longer than the first. Any implications to number of crew, crew rest at IAD etc?
Worth noting that flying via MLA would shave off about 150 miles from the trip. Probably cheaper to operate at all around with benefits that Malta would pursue.
I thought the PM’s visit to Malta was strange, but there’s something bigger behind it.
yoshoward12 wrote:Ethiopian starting ADD-KHI on 3/26. Been rumored for a little while now, and I’m guessing it’ll be on the MAX or 738.
https://simpleflying.com/ethiopian-airl ... hts-march/
B747-437B wrote:yoshoward12 wrote:Ethiopian starting ADD-KHI on 3/26. Been rumored for a little while now, and I’m guessing it’ll be on the MAX or 738.
https://simpleflying.com/ethiopian-airl ... hts-march/
If its going to take 8 hours from Addis to Karachi as the article claims, more likely they are bringing the old DC3
out of retirement from the airport roundabout.
rukundo wrote:The well-informed The East African tells us that last week a "secret" meeting took place between Uganda Airlines and a delegation from Airbus and Boeing. Objective: Uganda Airlines could order up to 6 medium-haul aircraft to fill the gap between its CRJ900s and its A330-800s, to open routes in West Africa or operate "long haul" routeswhere the A330 would be too big.
B747-437B wrote:rukundo wrote:The well-informed The East African tells us that last week a "secret" meeting took place between Uganda Airlines and a delegation from Airbus and Boeing. Objective: Uganda Airlines could order up to 6 medium-haul aircraft to fill the gap between its CRJ900s and its A330-800s, to open routes in West Africa or operate "long haul" routeswhere the A330 would be too big.
This meeting may have been "secret" but there have been plenty of well publicised meetings in the past on this very issue.
Unfortunately, throwing even more money at Uganda Airlines to buy even more planes is not going to solve the issue that their A330s simply cannot sustain a commercially viable business case. As long as those continue to be part of the fleet, the airline will continue to be a basket case.
yoshoward12 wrote:What would you suggest they do? I have learned now that costs per seat are just ridiculous and their fleet is a mess, especially with that huge gap between the CR9 and 338. Should they scrap the widebodies, and focus on more of an A220 sized aircraft? Should they select different widebodies?
B747-437B wrote:yoshoward12 wrote:What would you suggest they do? I have learned now that costs per seat are just ridiculous and their fleet is a mess, especially with that huge gap between the CR9 and 338. Should they scrap the widebodies, and focus on more of an A220 sized aircraft? Should they select different widebodies?
They need to decide whether they want to exist as a commercial entity or as a vanity project. Right now they are pretending to be the former while acting like the latter and that makes them a laughing stock from the outside, and a scary place to be on the inside. As a friend of mine in a senior role there said recently, "the atmosphere is toxic and paranoid to say the least".
They never had a plan for the widebodies (well, not a realistic one). Neither a commercial nor a technical one. They ignored everything UCAA told them (I was running an airline in Uganda at the time so I saw some of this up close and firsthand) and went ahead to get these planes anyway, then tried to blame everyone else when they didn't know what to do with them, let alone how.
If they had started off with 4 CRJs and grew those to maximum utility before looking at larger narrowbodies and eventually maybe widebodies after a decade, they may have had a chance. But no, M7 had to one-up his frenemies Magufuli and Kagame so the A330s were imposed on them. Even their CRJ fleet is not scalable because heck, nobody makes them anymore. Plus, there is an irrational fear of domestic flights for security concerns, so they can't even use the CRJs to connect to Gulu, Soroti or an expanded Kisoro (another project that went nowhere).
What should they do? Sell all the planes, cut their losses and partner with Ethiopian to set up Ethio-Crane Airways with 2 737s and 2 Dash8 in a time honoured template.
yoshoward12 wrote:Ethiopian starting ADD-KHI on 3/26. Been rumored for a little while now, and I’m guessing it’ll be on the MAX or 738.
https://simpleflying.com/ethiopian-airl ... hts-march/
TryToFlySomeday wrote:yoshoward12 wrote:Ethiopian starting ADD-KHI on 3/26. Been rumored for a little while now, and I’m guessing it’ll be on the MAX or 738.
https://simpleflying.com/ethiopian-airl ... hts-march/
How long does one think the layover in ADD will be to KHI coming from *A hubs like ORD/IAD? Would love to reach KHI at literally any time that isn't the middle of the night. (I know one could achieve that with the ME3 as well, but I honestly am tired of the ME3 triopoly in KHI. LHE/ISB get VS for crying out loud!)
yoshoward12 wrote:I don’t think they have the schedule published yet, so I’d defer on this one, it depends if they schedule it for the morning or night bank. Could be a rather short layover for the morning, but night would be a different story. They might be looking to feed the flight from other African destinations mainly, so it could be either with that in mind as well.
Ti23 wrote:Eagerly waiting for Dar to London to begin , but i think it will be on q4 this year
rukundo wrote:Last preparations before delivery (if everything goes well). Seen at Châteauroux (France) on February 9, 2023
RwandAir A330-200 currently EI-HJJ, which will become 9XR-WX. Unlike the other 2 A330s, this one will not be tri class so no premium eco.
30 seats in Business and 222 in economy: https://www.flightera.net/en/planes/9XR-WX
Thanks to Enzo Catania who has gave me the authorisation to post the photo on the forum.
Here are the links to his galleries (I promised him to put the links)
Jeptohos: https://www.jetphotos.com/photographer/74342/photos
Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/124488798@N04/
Skyliner: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/showphotos.main?from=1
B747-437B wrote:Ti23 wrote:Eagerly waiting for Dar to London to begin , but i think it will be on q4 this year
If not this year, maybe next. After all, they've only had those 787s for what is it? 5 years? Need a bit more crew familiarisation flights to Arusha and Zanzibar I'm sure.
grjplanes wrote:Why is Air Tanzania still delaying their resumption of JNB flights?
trexel94 wrote:rukundo wrote:Last preparations before delivery (if everything goes well). Seen at Châteauroux (France) on February 9, 2023
RwandAir A330-200 currently EI-HJJ, which will become 9XR-WX. Unlike the other 2 A330s, this one will not be tri class so no premium eco.
30 seats in Business and 222 in economy: https://www.flightera.net/en/planes/9XR-WX
Thanks to Enzo Catania who has gave me the authorisation to post the photo on the forum.
Here are the links to his galleries (I promised him to put the links)
Jeptohos: https://www.jetphotos.com/photographer/74342/photos
Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/124488798@N04/
Skyliner: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/showphotos.main?from=1
Interesting that PE won’t be installed. Do you know why? What are Rwandair’s plans for this airframe?
B747-437B wrote:I was on News Central TV this afternoon to discuss Kenya Airways' current situation, their debts, restructuring and the default notice served on the Kenyan Government by the US Exim bank for legacy KQ debt guaranteed by the national treasury. We also discussed what needs to be done for Kenya Airways to escape from its current impasse of trying to service debt with earnings, and whether Delta is really going to buy 48.9% of KQ.
https://youtu.be/mIqwZRmr-7s
B747-437B wrote:I was on News Central TV this afternoon to discuss Kenya Airways' current situation, their debts, restructuring and the default notice served on the Kenyan Government by the US Exim bank for legacy KQ debt guaranteed by the national treasury. We also discussed what needs to be done for Kenya Airways to escape from its current impasse of trying to service debt with earnings, and whether Delta is really going to buy 48.9% of KQ.
https://youtu.be/mIqwZRmr-7s
yoshoward12 wrote:Did anyone else notice a daytime departure beginning in April from ADD-LHR? I believe it is a 1045 departure on Monday, but the other days have a 1240 or 0250 departure. Thought this was interesting. Maybe with some of the new intra-Africa flights arriving in the morning, they are taking advantage of the new connectivity.
rukundo wrote:The well-informed The East African tells us that last week a "secret" meeting took place between Uganda Airlines and a delegation from Airbus and Boeing.
Objective: Uganda Airlines could order up to 6 medium-haul aircraft to fill the gap between its CRJ900s and its A330-800s, to open routes in West Africa or operate "long haul" routeswhere the A330 would be too big.
Airbus would have offered the A321Neo, but we do not know the version: LR or XLR. Boeing logically proposed the B737Max. Nevertheless there are various factors about the cost per seat, the autonomy and the capacity.Depending on the type of aircraft the number of routes to be served would be limited. For example it's not possible to use the A321 (180 seats - 200 seats) on the routes in East Africa, Too big for the market. But maybe not the 737 Max7.
Only Ethiopian uses aircraft over 180 seats on routes in East Africa.
Embraer would be in the race.
https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/tea/bu ... rs-4119886
A330Inter wrote:Any reasons why they wouldn't consider second-hand aircraft?
rukundo wrote:We talk about Africa China / Europe / North America / Middle East flights, but very little about flights between Africa and South Asia (India, Nepal, Bhutan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Maldives, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh).
While Air Peace (Nigeria) will launch flights to Mumbai next month (https://dailytrust.com/air-peace-kicks- ... -march-31/), Ethiopian will relaunch its flights to Pakistan (https://www.app.com.pk/national/ethiopi ... er-abdula/) , Vistara lands in Africa with a connection to Mauritius, Egyptair which has been serving Bangladesh since 2021 (https://archive.dhakatribune.com/bangla ... from-nov-1) and Rwanda and Bangladesh wishing to open a connection (https://www.tbsnews.net/bangladesh/bang ... ent-567126) . Sri Lankan Airlines seems to have suspended its Colombo Nairobi route.
Indigo wishes to serve Kenya as the first destination in Africa. The flights will logically be operated in A321Neo. Air India is also starting to receive them. To see if the company plans to make a third return to Africa. The Nairobi-Mumbai route (closed in 2010 and reopened in 2019 https://livefromalounge.com/air-india-n ... i-nonstop/) was suspended during the covid, but the company operates a cargo flight on Ahmedabad in 787.
African countries connected to South Asia
Kenya: India
Ethiopia: India and soon Pakistan
Egypt: India and Bangladesh
Tanzania: India
Seychelles: Sri Lanka and India
Mauritius: India
Nigeria: soon India
Rwanda: India
Reunion Island (French Onverseas Dept): India
About 10 years ago there was a route between Asmara and Karachi via the UAE with Eritrean Airlines (https://historyofpia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19660)
IndiGo Plans Flights To Nairobi, Jakarta, Some Central Asian Destinations: CEO Pieter Elbers IndiGo, which is "back with a bang", is looking to start flights to Nairobi, Jakarta and some central Asian destinations.
Read more at: https://www.bqprime.com/business/indigo ... ter-elbers
Copyright © BQ Prime
MileHFL400 wrote:rukundo wrote:We talk about Africa China / Europe / North America / Middle East flights, but very little about flights between Africa and South Asia (India, Nepal, Bhutan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Maldives, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh).
While Air Peace (Nigeria) will launch flights to Mumbai next month (https://dailytrust.com/air-peace-kicks- ... -march-31/), Ethiopian will relaunch its flights to Pakistan (https://www.app.com.pk/national/ethiopi ... er-abdula/) , Vistara lands in Africa with a connection to Mauritius, Egyptair which has been serving Bangladesh since 2021 (https://archive.dhakatribune.com/bangla ... from-nov-1) and Rwanda and Bangladesh wishing to open a connection (https://www.tbsnews.net/bangladesh/bang ... ent-567126) . Sri Lankan Airlines seems to have suspended its Colombo Nairobi route.
Indigo wishes to serve Kenya as the first destination in Africa. The flights will logically be operated in A321Neo. Air India is also starting to receive them. To see if the company plans to make a third return to Africa. The Nairobi-Mumbai route (closed in 2010 and reopened in 2019 https://livefromalounge.com/air-india-n ... i-nonstop/) was suspended during the covid, but the company operates a cargo flight on Ahmedabad in 787.
African countries connected to South Asia
Kenya: India
Ethiopia: India and soon Pakistan
Egypt: India and Bangladesh
Tanzania: India
Seychelles: Sri Lanka and India
Mauritius: India
Nigeria: soon India
Rwanda: India
Reunion Island (French Onverseas Dept): India
About 10 years ago there was a route between Asmara and Karachi via the UAE with Eritrean Airlines (https://historyofpia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19660)
IndiGo Plans Flights To Nairobi, Jakarta, Some Central Asian Destinations: CEO Pieter Elbers IndiGo, which is "back with a bang", is looking to start flights to Nairobi, Jakarta and some central Asian destinations.
Read more at: https://www.bqprime.com/business/indigo ... ter-elbers
Copyright © BQ Prime
Umm pretty sure Air India operates Pax to Nairobi on the 787 and not just cargo. Additionally I doubt Indigo will get permission for NBO with the govt trying to protect KQ so much.
rukundo wrote:We talk about Africa China / Europe / North America / Middle East flights, but very little about flights between Africa and South Asia (India, Nepal, Bhutan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Maldives, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh).
While Air Peace (Nigeria) will launch flights to Mumbai next month (https://dailytrust.com/air-peace-kicks- ... -march-31/), Ethiopian will relaunch its flights to Pakistan (https://www.app.com.pk/national/ethiopi ... er-abdula/) , Vistara lands in Africa with a connection to Mauritius, Egyptair which has been serving Bangladesh since 2021 (https://archive.dhakatribune.com/bangla ... from-nov-1) and Rwanda and Bangladesh wishing to open a connection (https://www.tbsnews.net/bangladesh/bang ... ent-567126) . Sri Lankan Airlines seems to have suspended its Colombo Nairobi route.
Indigo wishes to serve Kenya as the first destination in Africa. The flights will logically be operated in A321Neo. Air India is also starting to receive them. To see if the company plans to make a third return to Africa. The Nairobi-Mumbai route (closed in 2010 and reopened in 2019 https://livefromalounge.com/air-india-n ... i-nonstop/) was suspended during the covid, but the company operates a cargo flight on Ahmedabad in 787.
African countries connected to South Asia
Kenya: India
Ethiopia: India and soon Pakistan
Egypt: India and Bangladesh
Tanzania: India
Seychelles: Sri Lanka and India
Mauritius: India
Nigeria: soon India
Rwanda: India
Reunion Island (French Onverseas Dept): India
About 10 years ago there was a route between Asmara and Karachi via the UAE with Eritrean Airlines (https://historyofpia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19660)
IndiGo Plans Flights To Nairobi, Jakarta, Some Central Asian Destinations: CEO Pieter Elbers IndiGo, which is "back with a bang", is looking to start flights to Nairobi, Jakarta and some central Asian destinations.
Read more at: https://www.bqprime.com/business/indigo ... ter-elbers
Copyright © BQ Prime
berari wrote:rukundo wrote:We talk about Africa China / Europe / North America / Middle East flights, but very little about flights between Africa and South Asia (India, Nepal, Bhutan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Maldives, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh).
While Air Peace (Nigeria) will launch flights to Mumbai next month (https://dailytrust.com/air-peace-kicks- ... -march-31/), Ethiopian will relaunch its flights to Pakistan (https://www.app.com.pk/national/ethiopi ... er-abdula/) , Vistara lands in Africa with a connection to Mauritius, Egyptair which has been serving Bangladesh since 2021 (https://archive.dhakatribune.com/bangla ... from-nov-1) and Rwanda and Bangladesh wishing to open a connection (https://www.tbsnews.net/bangladesh/bang ... ent-567126) . Sri Lankan Airlines seems to have suspended its Colombo Nairobi route.
Indigo wishes to serve Kenya as the first destination in Africa. The flights will logically be operated in A321Neo. Air India is also starting to receive them. To see if the company plans to make a third return to Africa. The Nairobi-Mumbai route (closed in 2010 and reopened in 2019 https://livefromalounge.com/air-india-n ... i-nonstop/) was suspended during the covid, but the company operates a cargo flight on Ahmedabad in 787.
African countries connected to South Asia
Kenya: India
Ethiopia: India and soon Pakistan
Egypt: India and Bangladesh
Tanzania: India
Seychelles: Sri Lanka and India
Mauritius: India
Nigeria: soon India
Rwanda: India
Reunion Island (French Onverseas Dept): India
About 10 years ago there was a route between Asmara and Karachi via the UAE with Eritrean Airlines (https://historyofpia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19660)
IndiGo Plans Flights To Nairobi, Jakarta, Some Central Asian Destinations: CEO Pieter Elbers IndiGo, which is "back with a bang", is looking to start flights to Nairobi, Jakarta and some central Asian destinations.
Read more at: https://www.bqprime.com/business/indigo ... ter-elbers
Copyright © BQ Prime
Ethiopia was out in Bangladesh signing air services agreements last week.
David_itl wrote:ET's plan to go to from 4 weekly to 5 weekly on the ADD-GVA-MAN sector is apparently on hold due slot issues at GVA but I'm wondering at what stage ET will return to the idea of making MAN a non-stop service? The latest CAA statistics show that over 7000 passengers were on the service in December which means that aircraft are 63% full to/from MAN but have no idea how many seats are available to book for MAN-ADD and what is allowed for MAN-GVA. They were previously attracting around 4000 passengers a month when the flight operated via BRU without 5th freedom rights,
rukundo wrote:The only problem is the lack of information about the financial results of the company.
B747-437B wrote:rukundo wrote:The only problem is the lack of information about the financial results of the company.
Big man was evidently very upset when I went on BBC a couple of years ago and highlighted how nearly 5% of the entire national budget was being squandered on RwandAir subsidies, and how the airline lost $143 per passenger they transported in 2019. Since then, they haven't made a single peep in the media about financial performance.
berari wrote:Is it safe for you to fly to/through Rwanda or shall we just go with the assumption that it's not?
berari wrote:Is it safe for you to fly to/through Rwanda or shall we just go with the assumption that it's not?