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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Mon May 29, 2023 12:38 am

Someone83 wrote:
Deltabravo1123 wrote:
Is it known when SAS will have their last 737-700 flight?


Not yet, but most likely Autumn 2023


Let's hope it is Autumn 2023.... this post states a little bit earlier: https://simpleflying.com/sas-last-boeing-737s-analysis/

"Furthermore, ch-aviation lists next month as the projected retirement date for five of the remaining 737-700s, although LN-RPJ is expected to last until 2025."

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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Mon May 29, 2023 1:21 am

Related to the -700 fleet: LN-RPJ as per FR24 seems to be assigned for ad-hoc kind of flights. Every week it has operated SK7181/SK7182. OSL-RZE and so on… Will SAS keep RPJ to perform these missions?? Thank you! Rafael
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Mon May 29, 2023 5:20 am

baires wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
Deltabravo1123 wrote:
Is it known when SAS will have their last 737-700 flight?


Not yet, but most likely Autumn 2023


Let's hope it is Autumn 2023.... this post states a little bit earlier: https://simpleflying.com/sas-last-boeing-737s-analysis/

"Furthermore, ch-aviation lists next month as the projected retirement date for five of the remaining 737-700s, although LN-RPJ is expected to last until 2025."

Rafael


There will be a gradual ramp down for scheduled traffic on the 737s. Currently there are 5 tails flying (excluding RPJ that only does medivac). One is leaving in beginning of September, one more in beginning of October. The 3 remaining will all be gone by 28oct (S23). There will very likely be a farewell flight for the last scheduled 737 in SAS.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Mon May 29, 2023 6:26 am

baires wrote:
Related to the -700 fleet: LN-RPJ as per FR24 seems to be assigned for ad-hoc kind of flights. Every week it has operated SK7181/SK7182. OSL-RZE and so on… Will SAS keep RPJ to perform these missions?? Thank you! Rafael


It is flying medic flight on behalf of the Norwegian government, mainly carrying injured Ukraine soldiers to various hospitals in Europa

LN-RPJ is rebuild as a medevac aircraft, as SAS has an agreement with the Norwegian government regarding this. It is sort of a quick convertion type, however since the war in Ukraine it has been flown as this since
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Mon May 29, 2023 6:31 am

minilinde wrote:

There will be a gradual ramp down for scheduled traffic on the 737s. Currently there are 5 tails flying (excluding RPJ that only does medivac). One is leaving in beginning of September, one more in beginning of October. The 3 remaining will all be gone by 28oct (S23). There will very likely be a farewell flight for the last scheduled 737 in SAS.


That is (or was?) at least the plan. But there is a few factors that may change it. Traffic development after the Summer, timing of deliveries of both new A320neo and used E195s., etc etc

There is also an issue with the rather timely certification process of being able to turn am A320neo (or similar) into a quick change medevec aircraft, that the 737-700 is certified out. And it is not an ideal solution to only have LN-RPJ flying around, without any other 737s to share its pilot pool, parts etc etc
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Tue May 30, 2023 8:02 pm

A320neo EI-SCA, was delivered to SAS today. That take their A320neo fleet to 60 aircraft
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Wed May 31, 2023 1:22 pm

A Delta 767 heading to New York had to return to ARN today after a bird strike.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Wed May 31, 2023 3:26 pm

Due fleet shortages KLM will introduce a daily wet-leased Spanish Privilege Style A321 on AMS-BLL from June 2nd:

- AMS 16.35 - 17.40 BLL 18.35 - 19.50 AMS KL1347/KL1348 A321 EC-NLJ 214 seats

http://www.klm.com
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:03 pm

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Due fleet shortages KLM will introduce a daily wet-leased Spanish Privilege Style A321 on AMS-BLL from June 2nd:

- AMS 16.35 - 17.40 BLL 18.35 - 19.50 AMS KL1347/KL1348 A321 EC-NLJ 214 seats

http://www.klm.com

Where precisely can we read more about this on KLM's website?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:20 pm

Air Serbia has today increased their BEG-OSL flights going from 5 to 7. New departures are on Tuesdays in the morning and Saturdays in the afternoon. Flights are already in the system and can be booked online.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:59 pm

MartijnNL wrote:
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factsonly wrote:
Due fleet shortages KLM will introduce a daily wet-leased Spanish Privilege Style A321 on AMS-BLL from June 2nd:

- AMS 16.35 - 17.40 BLL 18.35 - 19.50 AMS KL1347/KL1348 A321 EC-NLJ 214 seats

http://www.klm.com

Where precisely can we read more about this on KLM's website?


Clearly indicated when booking AMS-BLL-AMS or AMS-MAD-AMS.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Fri Jun 02, 2023 6:43 am

Later today, SAS opens bookings for its inaugural flights with 100% electric aircraft.

30 seats will be available on 3 domestic flights, one each in Denmark, Norway and Sweden on a route and at a time and date to be confirmed, sometime in 2028.

The initiative is designed to demonstrate SAS' commitment to have electric aircraft in service (and to still exist as an airline :bouncy: ) by 2028.

Bookings open 12.00CET 2 June 2023 at flysas.com/electric

From the press release:

RESERVE YOUR SEAT ON SAS’ FIRST ELECTRIC FLIGHT 2028

May 31, 2023 14:01On 2 June at 12:00 CET. SAS opens seat reservations for its first-ever commercial electric flight in Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. SAS invites travelers to join in writing this next chapter in aviation history with 30 seats available for reservation on each of the three inaugural flights – which are expected to take place during the course of 2028. 

SAS' goal is net-zero emissions by 2050. An important part of achieving this goal is to develop and use technological innovations such as electric aircraft on shorter trips.

"Since its inception in 1946, SAS has been one of the pioneers in the airline industry, being for instance the first commercial airline operator to fly over the North Pole to significantly shorten flight time between continents. A groundbreaking activity for which SAS received the Columbus Prize. The fact that we can now invite our passengers to the next major milestone in the future of aviation is a natural continuation of that pioneering spirit and a significant step on our journey towards more sustainable aviation," says Anko van der Werff, President & CEO of SAS. 

The ticket price for the inaugural flight will be SEK/NOK/DKK 1946 – a tribute to the year when SAS first started flying. A start-up that also marks the beginning of SAS’ innovative nature, with then-founder Wallenberg stating that “moving from the old to the new is the only tradition worth preserving”. 

Reservations can be made at flysas.com/electric starting 2 June at 12:00 CET.

Facts 
Reserve a seat at flysas.com/electric - maximum two seats per reservation and person
Reservations will be made available on 2 June at 12:00 CET in Sweden, Norway, and Denmark 
Price: 1946 kr.  incl.  fees and taxes to be paid 30 days prior to the date of the flight once communicated – no fees for the reservation
Departure day: To be communicated to travelers by email when decided 
Place of departure: To be communicated to travelers by email when decided 
Towards a more sustainable aviation 

Being a driving force in a more sustainable aviation is our priority, and we are working actively to lower CO₂ emission and reduce climate impact. This includes supporting innovation and partnerships to find new solutions, making investments in new, more fuel-efficient aircraft, increasing production and use of more sustainable aviation fuels and many other enhancements to our inflight offerings and service.  

To reduce our emissions and drive our environmental initiatives, we have short- and long-term climate actions and targets.  

Significant sustainability milestones include: 
2019: a partnership with Airbus to pave the way for large-scale use of low- and zero emission commercial aircraft.  
2019: SAS cooperates with Heart Aerospace to drive the development of electric aircraft. Subsequently, in September 2022, we signed a letter of support concerning their new electric ES-30 to our regional fleet.  
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:38 pm

factsonly wrote:
Clearly indicated when booking AMS-BLL-AMS or AMS-MAD-AMS.

Thanks. Was looking for a news item.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:22 pm

Looks like today's AAL EWR was cancelled, with the aircraft instead flying to CPH and passengers instead being put on the CPH JFK service, which departed 2 hours late. I wonder if it was due to mx issues or the result of a collective depression over Aalborg being relegated, and noone being in the mood to fly ;)
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:32 pm

CPH-R wrote:
Looks like today's AAL EWR was cancelled, with the aircraft instead flying to CPH and passengers instead being put on the CPH JFK service, which departed 2 hours late. I wonder if it was due to mx issues or the result of a collective depression over Aalborg being relegated, and noone being in the mood to fly ;)


Tech issues (AOG = Aircraft On Ground) with 1 of the LR’s. In general everything that happens close to day of operation is due to technical or crewing issues. There are usually very few commercial adjustments close to day of operation.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:05 pm

Thank you for that, I suppose that's a risk with such a small LR fleet. At least they were able to fly down to CPH.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Tue Jun 06, 2023 7:48 pm

Next for Braathens International arrived at MMX today

From Skyliner:
Airbus A319 -132 3445 SE-RGC Braathens International Airways delivery 05-06jun23 PAE-YYR-MMX ex N528VA
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:51 am

SunClass A330-900, OY-VKO, is finally scheduled to be delivered and put in service. Had a testflight at NAP yesterday, and is planned flown NAP-CPH as DK4999 later today
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:36 am

Finnair is reorganizing the BOM and BKK flights:

- the Mumbai flights will be discontinued from 1st of August 2023 until 30th of March 2024.
- four additional weekly flights will be added to Bangkok for the next winter season, BKK will be served 11x weekly. No changes in Phuket: NOV 1x weekly, DEC-MAR 4x weekly.

https://easy.finnair.com/fi-fi/news/mum ... 4--3003528
 
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Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:46 am

Someone83 wrote:
SunClass A330-900, OY-VKO, is finally scheduled to be delivered and put in service. Had a testflight at NAP yesterday, and is planned flown NAP-CPH as DK4999 later today

Better late than never :D And just in time for the busy summer season, though how much the Naviair debacle is going to effect ops at CPH remains to be seen.
 
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Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:12 pm

Per a headline on check-in.dk (article is hidden behind a paywall), it sounds like OY-VKI might also be on its way back from AUH. Apparently a C-check turned into a bit of a nightmare with new issues continually being found, resulting in a 10 month absence instead of the usual 3-4 months.
 
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Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:15 pm

CPH-R wrote:
Per a headline on check-in.dk (article is hidden behind a paywall), it sounds like OY-VKI might also be on its way back from AUH. Apparently a C-check turned into a bit of a nightmare with new issues continually being found, resulting in a 10 month absence instead of the usual 3-4 months.


Would be nice, as I'm booked flying this OSL-RHO later this Summer. And find them quite pleasant as a passenger
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:14 pm

Icelandair is adding KEF-FAE in S24. Starts off 5-6x weekly from May 1st to late October on the DHC-8 Q400:

https://www.mbl.is/ferdalog/frettir/202 ... _faereyja/

Schedule is as follows, connecting to the N-American main bank:

FI300 KEF-FAE 8:30-11:15 (1h45m) DH4
FI301 FAE-KEF 14:30-15:20 (1h50m) DH4
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:05 am

Someone83 wrote:
Next for Braathens International arrived at MMX today

From Skyliner:
Airbus A319 -132 3445 SE-RGC Braathens International Airways delivery 05-06jun23 PAE-YYR-MMX ex N528VA


And the next, their 4th came Friday

From Skyliner:
Airbus A319 -112 2662 SE-RGE Braathens International Airways delivery 09jun23 FCO-MMX ex 9H-TLS
 
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Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:10 am

CPH-R wrote:
Per a headline on check-in.dk (article is hidden behind a paywall), it sounds like OY-VKI might also be on its way back from AUH. Apparently a C-check turned into a bit of a nightmare with new issues continually being found, resulting in a 10 month absence instead of the usual 3-4 months.


Scheduled to be flown AUH-CPH later today as DK4997
 
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Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:59 pm

Maybe someone else has knowledge on this, but FI hasn’t loaded in their DTW flights for next summer yet. Can we expect them to wait until the end of this season to do so?
 
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Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:53 am

Finnair with a positive profit warning

https://company.finnair.com/en/media-ce ... 6ECD175D1E
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:57 am

Someone83 wrote:
Finnair with a positive profit warning

https://company.finnair.com/en/media-ce ... 6ECD175D1E


This was surprising: "...the comparable operating result will probably reach or even exceed the 2019 level"
 
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Tue Jun 13, 2023 11:02 am

Someone83 wrote:
Finnair with a positive profit warning

https://company.finnair.com/en/media-ce ... 6ECD175D1E


Having flown a few long haul flights with Finnair in recent weeks they have all been completely full so I'm not surprised. The US routes seem to be doing well. DFW was completely full both ways with lots of connections.
 
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Tue Jun 13, 2023 2:28 pm

MareBorealis wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
Finnair with a positive profit warning

https://company.finnair.com/en/media-ce ... 6ECD175D1E


This was surprising: "...the comparable operating result will probably reach or even exceed the 2019 level"

It's sisu. Finns are like cats - they always land on their feet. There are few other peoples that merit more admiration.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:34 pm

flymco753 wrote:
Maybe someone else has knowledge on this, but FI hasn’t loaded in their DTW flights for next summer yet. Can we expect them to wait until the end of this season to do so?


I wouldn't read too much into it at this point, often it's just the so-called core routes that are loaded at such an early interval.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Tue Jun 13, 2023 8:31 pm

SRQKEF wrote:
flymco753 wrote:
Maybe someone else has knowledge on this, but FI hasn’t loaded in their DTW flights for next summer yet. Can we expect them to wait until the end of this season to do so?


I wouldn't read too much into it at this point, often it's just the so-called core routes that are loaded at such an early interval.
Probably a few hours after I posted this, someone in a Facebook group I’m in posted what looked like a planned schedule starting at the end of March and going up to 5x weekly at the end of May. The schedule on the website reflects it but the flights aren’t yet loaded. That sounds in line with what they said they were planning.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:08 am

CPH-R wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
SunClass A330-900, OY-VKO, is finally scheduled to be delivered and put in service. Had a testflight at NAP yesterday, and is planned flown NAP-CPH as DK4999 later today

Better late than never :D And just in time for the busy summer season, though how much the Naviair debacle is going to effect ops at CPH remains to be seen.


First commercial flight today, as DK1748 ARN-PMI. Looks to be flying ARN-PMI-BGO-PMI-ARN today

OY-VKI on the other hand managed one OSL-CHQ-OSL rotation before she broke down again
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:18 pm

Finally got the return trip AAL-EWR-AAL under my belt, pretty quaint little trip. Very low LF on the outbound but much healthier on the return flght. And I think I set my new personal best time as far as "Wheels on the ground to exiting the terminal" - just about 20 minutes, including passport control and with checked luggage. That wouldn't have happened at CPH :D
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:54 pm

I don't get luggage and CPH. It always takes ages to receive the luggage. the other week, I exited a Qatar flight arriving at approximately 2pm (operated by Finnair) and despite a pretty long delay at immigration, I waited 20 minutes for my luggage. Thats not meeting expectations (and CPH wasn't busy).
Another thing to note, the 'Eventyr lounge' must have Europe's worst wine selection, only serving Bigfoot wines.

I was a tad worried about flying with AY, not getting my usual QR service, but AY delivered better than expected. I had a predominantly Swedish crew on the flight and well, I didn't miss QR at all, so kudos to AY they exceeded my expectations.

CPH Immigration was weird, I don't have an EU passport hence I stood in the non EU passport queue. There was about 40 people that had come off an earlier EK flight. A few didnt speak Danish and/or English and this led to a halt. Security stepped in and assisted by asking whether anyone fluent in Urdu or Vietnamese could help translate (several Viets immediately volunteered and the Viet passengers started moving through immigration, however non of the Pakistanis queuing wanted to assist and it led to a complete halt in the line - pretty strange - eventually all Pakistanis were directed to two agents and kept there while the rest of us used the other agents and things went smooth. Danish immigration is friendly and definitely not difficult to deal with, to the contrary, so I found the experience odd and i wonder why the Pakistanis didn't volunteer to help (note they asked for Urdu speakers not local languages).
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:16 am

MillwallSean wrote:
I don't get luggage and CPH. It always takes ages to receive the luggage. the other week, I exited a Qatar flight arriving at approximately 2pm (operated by Finnair) and despite a pretty long delay at immigration, I waited 20 minutes for my luggage. Thats not meeting expectations (and CPH wasn't busy).
Another thing to note, the 'Eventyr lounge' must have Europe's worst wine selection, only serving Bigfoot wines.

CPH Immigration was weird, I don't have an EU passport hence I stood in the non EU passport queue. There was about 40 people that had come off an earlier EK flight. A few didnt speak Danish and/or English and this led to a halt. Security stepped in and assisted by asking whether anyone fluent in Urdu or Vietnamese could help translate (several Viets immediately volunteered and the Viet passengers started moving through immigration, however non of the Pakistanis queuing wanted to assist and it led to a complete halt in the line - pretty strange - eventually all Pakistanis were directed to two agents and kept there while the rest of us used the other agents and things went smooth. Danish immigration is friendly and definitely not difficult to deal with, to the contrary, so I found the experience odd and i wonder why the Pakistanis didn't volunteer to help (note they asked for Urdu speakers not local languages).


Agree with you re. luggage! The luggage reclaim area is very unwelcoming; often dirty and with bad air quality, and with sometimes huge piles of lost suitcases waiting to be taken care of outside the handling agent offices. It is obvious that CPH doesn't care at all about areas they just have to provide without being able to earn money, and waiting times can be veeeery long, maybe because CPH wants you to visit the arrival shop so they can have your money...or simply because the handlers work according to the tried and true Danish "gider ikke" (can't be bothered to) attitude? The same can be said of Immigration. Often, not enough lines are open, the officers really take their time and the whole area is full of signs, even on the floor, with schoolteacher-esque instructions on exactly how to hand over your passport to the officer... And btw, the immigration officers seem to hate the National ID cards of other European Union states (probably because Denmark, as one of very few countries, doesn't issue them).
A big problem at CPH is that many staff members tend to treat non-Danish speakers badly. I've witnessed this many times myself e.g. at security control. I speak fluent Danish myself so no problem, but non-Danish speakers are often in for some high-handed treatment.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:41 am

Looks like OY-VKI is back in the air, doing a quick flight around Danish airspace ex-CPH. As for VKO, it seems to be consistently delayed ex-ARN these days, usually by about 2 hours (although this morning it's a mere 45 minutes).
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:51 am

SK's average load factor on AAL-EWR at 57 percent, or 78 passengers per flight:

https://check-in.dk/i-gennemsnit-78-pas ... -new-york/
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:19 pm

Mini1000 wrote:
SK's average load factor on AAL-EWR at 57 percent, or 78 passengers per flight:

https://check-in.dk/i-gennemsnit-78-pas ... -new-york/


I’m not surprised. But I’m more curious about GOT-EWR. I believe that have performed better. As a summer route I also believe BGO could work well as many American throats visit Bergen and the west coast in summer. If the drop AAL-EWR I hope it can be replaced by BGO-EWR
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:22 pm

AAL - EWR should have been BLL - EWR ... BLL is the answer quite simply - just under 600,000 live in the North Jutland region. There are 1.3 million people living in the Central Jutland region and 1.4 million in the South Jutland region - BLL had given a different starting point. But SAS has decided that BLL is an odd airport despite many of their alliance partners from Star - Lufthansa, Brussels, Austrian, Swiss, LOT have a connection to BLL and could thus use BLL as relief or in case of unforeseen problems with flights in NYC.. SAS does not want BLL - even though it would have been the right solution
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:02 pm

AAR wrote:
AAL - EWR should have been BLL - EWR ... BLL is the answer quite simply - just under 600,000 live in the North Jutland region. There are 1.3 million people living in the Central Jutland region and 1.4 million in the South Jutland region - BLL had given a different starting point. But SAS has decided that BLL is an odd airport despite many of their alliance partners from Star - Lufthansa, Brussels, Austrian, Swiss, LOT have a connection to BLL and could thus use BLL as relief or in case of unforeseen problems with flights in NYC.. SAS does not want BLL - even though it would have been the right solution


I agree. It would have given SAS access to the combined Aarhus, Esbjerg, Vejle, Horsens, Kolding, Herning, LEGOLAND + (a big chunk of) Odense markets, likely enough to fill an A321 to profitability in the high season. Instead, they've nearly pulled out from Denmark's second largest airport, practically giving it away to KLM and the Lufthansa group.

I don't know if it's snobbery or what, because the yields must be there. KLM fills up to 5 BLL-bound planes a day to capacity, and so does LH to FRA and MUC - not to mention AF, LO, and BA (this one admittedly less so than pre-pandemic, but still).
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Sun Jul 02, 2023 3:59 pm

Mini1000 wrote:
I agree. It would have given SAS access to the combined Aarhus, Esbjerg, Vejle, Horsens, Kolding, Herning, LEGOLAND + (a big chunk of) Odense markets, likely enough to fill an A321 to profitability in the high season. Instead, they've nearly pulled out from Denmark's second largest airport, practically giving it away to KLM and the Lufthansa group.

I don't know if it's snobbery or what, because the yields must be there. KLM fills up to 5 BLL-bound planes a day to capacity, and so does LH to FRA and MUC - not to mention AF, LO, and BA (this one admittedly less so than pre-pandemic, but still).


LH and LO can target the SAS FF base in Jutland with LH and LO being in Star Alliance and with Jutland-based SAS FF's able to earn EuroBonus points on LH and LO flights.

SAS does not need to serve FRA, IST, MUC, VIE, WAW, or ZRH nonstop from BLL on SAS metal with the nonstop service that BLL already has to FRA/IST/MUC/VIE/WAW/ZRH on other Star Alliance airlines.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Mon Jul 03, 2023 2:35 pm

Finnair to fly daily between Stockholm Arlanda and Bergen non-stop (not via Finland) from 31 March 2024
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230703-ayns24arnbgo
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Mon Jul 03, 2023 3:22 pm

Kristianstad to get scheduled commercial airline service again - as a tag-on with BRA to their Bromma-Vaxjo service
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230703-tfaug23kid
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Tue Jul 04, 2023 2:08 am

davidjohnson6 wrote:
Finnair to fly daily between Stockholm Arlanda and Bergen non-stop (not via Finland) from 31 March 2024
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230703-ayns24arnbgo


Isn't that a return?
I seem to recall they flew this route for many years?

Finnair is works in Sweden. Pity it has a hub so close to ARN otherwise it would have been well positioned to hub there. As it is right now it would just duplicate the HEL operation for routes not point to point.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:55 am

MillwallSean wrote:
davidjohnson6 wrote:
Finnair to fly daily between Stockholm Arlanda and Bergen non-stop (not via Finland) from 31 March 2024
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230703-ayns24arnbgo


Isn't that a return?
I seem to recall they flew this route for many years?


Yes, they had HEL-ARN-BGO flights before the pandemic.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Tue Jul 04, 2023 11:45 pm

EU competition regulators will again investigate SAS 1-billion-euro recapitalisation by Denmark and Sweden after an EU court annulled a 2020 decision, the European Commission said on Tuesday.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 023-07-04/
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Thu Jul 06, 2023 6:38 am

Norwegian has announced that they have reached an agreement to buy Wideroe for 1,1 billion NOK https://media.no.norwegian.com/pressrel ... ee-3263606

I’m surprised. Hopefully good news.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2023

Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:01 am

Oykie wrote:
Norwegian has announced that they have reached an agreement to buy Wideroe for 1,1 billion NOK https://media.no.norwegian.com/pressrel ... ee-3263606

I’m surprised. Hopefully good news.


I would have expected Norwegian to make a move for Norse before Widerøe, but I can see the benefits for WF.
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