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zkojq wrote:Don't forget Spohr saying that the A340-600s would never return.
kaitak744 wrote:Looks like 7 additional 787s are NTUs
955 - ex Norwegian
971 - ex Norwegian
983 - ex Norwegian
988 - ex Air Europa
992 - ex Air Europa
1011 - ex Norwegian
1028 - ex Air Europa
Any word on what interiors these will get? Also, are these likely to go to Austrian?
MartijnNL wrote:zkojq wrote:Don't forget Spohr saying that the A340-600s would never return.
One week ago I finally boarded one. Travelled from Boston to Munich on D-AIHW. My first A340-600 flight!
PM wrote:kaitak744 wrote:Looks like 7 additional 787s are NTUs
955 - ex Norwegian
971 - ex Norwegian
983 - ex Norwegian
988 - ex Air Europa
992 - ex Air Europa
1011 - ex Norwegian
1028 - ex Air Europa
Any word on what interiors these will get? Also, are these likely to go to Austrian?
I believe that apart from the five GEnx 787s in the process of delivery, all new LH long-haul planes (787s, A350, 777s) will have the new bespoke allegris seats.
MartijnNL wrote:zkojq wrote:Don't forget Spohr saying that the A340-600s would never return.
One week ago I finally boarded one. Travelled from Boston to Munich on D-AIHW. My first A340-600 flight!
kaitak744 wrote:Is there a plan to convert those 5 GE 787s? Or will those end up with another LH group airline?
kaitak744 wrote:Looks like 7 additional 787s are NTUs
955 - ex Norwegian
971 - ex Norwegian
983 - ex Norwegian
988 - ex Air Europa
992 - ex Air Europa
1011 - ex Norwegian
1028 - ex Air Europa
Any word on what interiors these will get? Also, are these likely to go to Austrian?
zkojq wrote:So the A35K delivery slots are quite near term. Unsurprisingly, it sounds like Spohr doesn't have much confidence in Boeing regarding 777-9X deliveries. Wouldn't be the first.
Blotto wrote:zkojq wrote:So the A35K delivery slots are quite near term. Unsurprisingly, it sounds like Spohr doesn't have much confidence in Boeing regarding 777-9X deliveries. Wouldn't be the first.
"Quite near term" means deliveries start in 2026. Still before the 779 IMO
Blotto wrote:They will all get the new interior (Allegris is the LH product name, not used at LX or OS)
Blotto wrote:kaitak744 wrote:Looks like 7 additional 787s are NTUs
955 - ex Norwegian
971 - ex Norwegian
983 - ex Norwegian
988 - ex Air Europa
992 - ex Air Europa
1011 - ex Norwegian
1028 - ex Air Europa
Any word on what interiors these will get? Also, are these likely to go to Austrian?
No, those are the NTUs that LH bought last year. They will all get the new interior (Allegris is the LH product name, not used at LX or OS)
mercure1 wrote:LH Group puts out a policy paper calling ITA takeover a win-win for Germany and Italy.
https://politikbrief.lufthansagroup.com ... march-2023
mesasurf wrote:mercure1 wrote:LH Group puts out a policy paper calling ITA takeover a win-win for Germany and Italy.
https://politikbrief.lufthansagroup.com ... march-2023
Will ITA have to leave SkyTeam?
thesupersaiyann wrote:Can someone please clarify something for me? The LH A388s are scheduled to return for "summer" 2023, is that strictly seasonal summer (June, July, August) or the "summer season" in terms of airlines? Probably a stupid question but I only ask because it seems like the A380s will stay for such a short amount of time.
Another motive is the fact that I'm heading to NY in early October (before the end of the "summer season" ) and I am currently booked JFK-MUC-DUB with an A346 on the transatlantic leg, according to the LH app. I'm guessing that'll be switched to an A380 given the recent news about the A380 schedule out of MUC?
Sorry for the silly question but I'm just confused. Thank you!
fraT wrote:thesupersaiyann wrote:Can someone please clarify something for me? The LH A388s are scheduled to return for "summer" 2023, is that strictly seasonal summer (June, July, August) or the "summer season" in terms of airlines? Probably a stupid question but I only ask because it seems like the A380s will stay for such a short amount of time.
Another motive is the fact that I'm heading to NY in early October (before the end of the "summer season" ) and I am currently booked JFK-MUC-DUB with an A346 on the transatlantic leg, according to the LH app. I'm guessing that'll be switched to an A380 given the recent news about the A380 schedule out of MUC?
Sorry for the silly question but I'm just confused. Thank you!
As far as I know, the first A380 will not come for the start of the "summer schedule" which is in fact in less than two weeks. It is currently in Manila doing checks and should be ready in May or June. The second one is also in preparations (still in FRA?). But as long as the exact schedule is subject to change, they won't be entered into the GDS schedule.
Likely they will be put on MUC-JFK,BOS,DEL first. But in which order is unknown (to me).
And the plan is to fly them beyond the summer months.
But chances are good that you might fly on of them in OCT on your routing.
davidjohnson6 wrote:Significant reports across the German press that EVG and Verdi plan a major strike on 27 March. Unions have not confirmed but seems to be an open secret.
Think complete shutdown of airports and trains throughout Germany
atcsundevil wrote:davidjohnson6 wrote:Significant reports across the German press that EVG and Verdi plan a major strike on 27 March. Unions have not confirmed but seems to be an open secret.
Think complete shutdown of airports and trains throughout Germany
Are they still calling these "warning strikes"? They're happening just about every week somewhere in the country, so I don't know if they can really be referred to warning strikes anymore. This still isn't Lufthansa staff striking, correct? If the staffing are for airports and services, do the airlines have any potential claim for compensation? The costs of these strikes is really going to start adding up.
DartHerald wrote:There 's a piece in Flight this week (behind paywall) talking about possible further acquisitions of short- and medium-range freighters. One would have thought this might mean A321 and A333 conversions respectively, as the heading says "no new widebodies". I can't see them going for 767s at this late stage in that frame's production life. Can anyone cast any further light?
columba wrote:Lufthansa is about to launch a new airlines based in Munich to support their European network named City Airlines
Website :
https://www.cityairlines.de/en/home.html
DartHerald wrote:There 's a piece in Flight this week (behind paywall) talking about possible further acquisitions of short- and medium-range freighters. One would have thought this might mean A321 and A333 conversions respectively, as the heading says "no new widebodies". I can't see them going for 767s at this late stage in that frame's production life. Can anyone cast any further light?
SQ22 wrote:I am wondering if I missed something is there a new wet lease Agreement between CityJet/Air Nostrum and Lufthansa (CityLine)?
DUSZRH wrote:SQ22 wrote:Yes, some routes are scheduled with CR9 and CRK in Munich. Haven’t seen something public yet.
DUSZRH wrote:SQ22 wrote:I am wondering if I missed something is there a new wet lease Agreement between CityJet/Air Nostrum and Lufthansa (CityLine)?
Yes, some routes are scheduled with CR9 and CRK in Munich. Haven’t seen something public yet.
CityJet operates its CRJ900 fleet on behalf of SAS (Scandinavian Airlines) and, from summer 2023, Brussels Airlines and Lufthansa also offers the aircraft in the wet lease and occasionally ad-hoc charter markets.
Terrier79 wrote:Well, Cityjet states it quite frankly on their homepage...CityJet operates its CRJ900 fleet on behalf of SAS (Scandinavian Airlines) and, from summer 2023, Brussels Airlines and Lufthansa also offers the aircraft in the wet lease and occasionally ad-hoc charter markets.
https://www.cityjet.com/fleet/
DUSZRH wrote:SQ22 wrote:I am wondering if I missed something is there a new wet lease Agreement between CityJet/Air Nostrum and Lufthansa (CityLine)?
Yes, some routes are scheduled with CR9 and CRK in Munich. Haven’t seen something public yet.
grjplanes wrote:Is Eurowings Discover resuming service to both Victoria Falls (VFA) and Nelspruit-Kruger (MQP) via WDH within the next season?
A few weeks ago I still saw MQP flights bookable on the website, effective 26 March, but now nothing?
strangeplanes wrote:When will STL get additional frequency or upguage?
Magnum9 wrote:strangeplanes wrote:When will STL get additional frequency or upguage?
How is the route performing. Do the loads warrant it?
davidjohnson6 wrote:grjplanes wrote:Is Eurowings Discover resuming service to both Victoria Falls (VFA) and Nelspruit-Kruger (MQP) via WDH within the next season?
A few weeks ago I still saw MQP flights bookable on the website, effective 26 March, but now nothing?
https://aviation.direct/en/eurowings-di ... ional-park
Due to a lack of demand, the holiday airline Eurowings Discover is indefinitely suspending the flights to Mpumalanga (“Kruger National Park”) that only began in November of the previous year.
mercure1 wrote:Per the internal schedule advisory first resumed LH A380 service will be LH424 to BOS effective June 1. Followed by JFK LH410 effective July 4.
mercure1 wrote:Per the internal schedule advisory first resumed LH A380 service will be LH424 to BOS effective June 1. Followed by JFK LH410 effective July 4.
When @Lufthansa
announced its new Allegris cabins, it didn't provide any seat maps.
But, I just got the LOPAs!
The 787-9 Dreamliner will have one large biz cabin, while the A350-900 will have 2 biz cabins with just 2 bathrooms for 38 passengers
grjplanes wrote:
Unfortunately it looks like EW didn't really do their homework here. High Season for Kruger Park is mostly between June and October, can be extended somewhat until first week of January maybe...unlike the coastal areas of South Africa which is more October to April. Very similar higher season than what Victoria Falls is and therefor lots of international itineraries combine VFA and Kruger. Even MQP originating traffic (which is probably very small, but still) would be more during these times. So hopefully they can rather adjust like that. Another drawback is also the lack of 5th freedom on WDH-MQP, while they have it for WDH-VFA (once again small, but something).
If they can do both a tag-on to VFA and MQP from WDH at the same time during season then it could be more beneficial (especially with those combining the two). Then in the winter season rather extend to CPT, DUR or even GRJ .