caribny wrote:

LightChop2Chop wrote:

I would have really expected Norse to do LGW - PUJ / CUN. those are no brainers and pretty easy to fill due to the shear drawing power of those destinations. MBJ should do fine. I don't think KIN will be around too long. that is a very hard VFR / Business route to crack and if there was enough demand to fill a second carrier we would have seen BA doing daily already. BGI is a premium market. will be interesting to see what happens there.

Given that the UK Caribbean VFR market is highly mature I do not know how much price elasticity exists. How much high frequency travel exists in this market segment? Will offering lower fares result in more travel? This isnt a growing market, so there are fewer new travelers that can be added, so one will be trying to shift existing passenger preferences and that will be difficult. I do agree that BA is a strong brand in these VFR markets. I am not even sure how VS stacks up against BA in VFR markets on routes where they compete, And VS is well established on these UK Caribbean routes.

I suspect that mass leisure routes with ample tour operator activity will be where Norse can do best. CUN, MBJ, and PUJ. TUI does a lot of activity into BGI. Is this mainly cruise home port travel, or is there some price sensitive mass market in there? If so then Norse might go after that segment. The fact that VS is tenuous into ANU and UVF outside the winter suggests that there is limited scope for Norse in these markets. Not sure that UVF is seen as mass market these days, and ANU definitely isnt.

TUI does home porting in BGI but seats are also sold on package holidays. I suspect Norse could do well into BGI but going daily might be a tad ambitious TCX operated flights into BGI.

caribny wrote:

LimaFoxTango wrote:

BWs new(est) ATR 9Y-TTG is currently enroute to POS now leaving KEF to YYR.

Wonder how BW will adjust their summer schedule for these additional planes. I expect beefed up POS TAB. Maybe more GND, SVD, SLU and BGI? The new destinations will await the arrival of the 3rd and 4th new planes.

I suspect BW will want to get to daily SVD, twice daily GND and add further frequencies to BGI ex POS. They seem to be back to daily on SLU so maybe 10/week to overcome the loss of BA from POS-UVF. As we discussed earlier there is some impetus for BW to return to 20/day POS-TAB but the airline's concern about profitability of doing so remains. We are now at 15/day. Perhaps the higher fares now being charged may allow it to up frequencies in a stepwise fashion.

One tidbit which will be interesting to see is whether they will resume the late night flight to TAB (0045HR Northbound and 0145HR South). That flight worked inasmuch as it usually had spare capacity to take passengers travelling at short notice. It also enabled passengers arriving on late flights into POS to carry on to TAB. Of course there are now fewer late evening international arrivals into POS, notably with AA only running the afternoon arrival - one is left thinking that the late flight helped to facilitate AA arriving pax getting to TAB. Of current flights UA from IAH and BW from FLL (the latter not daily) would probably benefit although how many pax connect from these services to TAB could be questioned. In all, it's just a thought.

Trintocan.

Air Peace (P4, Lagos) is to acquire a majority stake in LIAT 2020 (Antigua)
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/127368-nigerias-air-peace-to-take-majority-stake-in-liat-2020

gunnerman wrote:

Air Peace (P4, Lagos) is to acquire a majority stake in LIAT 2020 (Antigua)
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/127368-nigerias-air-peace-to-take-majority-stake-in-liat-2020

Oh boy, how many ways could this go wrong?

gunnerman wrote:

Air Peace (P4, Lagos) is to acquire a majority stake in LIAT 2020 (Antigua)
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/127368-nigerias-air-peace-to-take-majority-stake-in-liat-2020

They really are trying anything to keep LI going. Honestly the Antigua government needs to face reality with JY,3S,WM and BW's expansion there really is no longer any need for LI those funds could be better spent elsewhere.

Silver in discussions to launch routes to non-US Caribbean Islands from STX and STT.

https://stthomassource.com/content/2023 ... x-flights/

fowlr29 wrote:

Silver in discussions to launch routes to non-US Caribbean Islands from STX and STT.

https://stthomassource.com/content/2023 ... x-flights/

Unless it involves a codeshare and feeding someone else’s hub, I don’t see where they could find enough traffic. Maybe once weekly SDQ?

ANU for sure from STT they could fill. Could even see SXM.

303dk wrote:

fowlr29 wrote:

Silver in discussions to launch routes to non-US Caribbean Islands from STX and STT.

https://stthomassource.com/content/2023 ... x-flights/

Unless it involves a codeshare and feeding someone else’s hub, I don’t see where they could find enough traffic. Maybe once weekly SDQ?

SKB, ANU, SXM, and potentially DOM and SLU can definitely work as a triangular route with stops in both STX and STT.

fowlr29 wrote:

Silver in discussions to launch routes to non-US Caribbean Islands from STX and STT.

https://stthomassource.com/content/2023 ... x-flights/

Aren't they having financial difficulties?

gunnerman wrote:

Air Peace (P4, Lagos) is to acquire a majority stake in LIAT 2020 (Antigua)
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/127368-nigerias-air-peace-to-take-majority-stake-in-liat-2020

Does the government NOT do research or background checks on who they're going into business with? This will go as well as the “Antigua Airways” debacle.

FlyAlways, PZ-TFB, operating for Jetair. PJ-JAC on ground for mx again, while JAB still hasn't been fixed since January. Flights cancelled and rescheduled since Sunday, they're still playing catchup on the schedule. One really wonders how long this can go on for, the F70s are definitely being a pain for them.

Hearing EZAir has ditched their Saab 2000 plans due to lack of Saab 2000 typed, qualified crew? Who would have thought?

Al319 wrote:

gunnerman wrote:

Air Peace (P4, Lagos) is to acquire a majority stake in LIAT 2020 (Antigua)
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/127368-nigerias-air-peace-to-take-majority-stake-in-liat-2020

Does the government NOT do research or background checks on who they're going into business with? This will go as well as the “Antigua Airways” debacle.

Well it seems that Gaston Browne is still trying to save himself with this dream of keeping LI while someone else pays for the disfunction. At this point LI is a shell of itself and the more competition expand the more LI will basically be irrelevant.

In other news there seems to be a new airline in Bermuda, with a premium 30 seat E170, and looking to start flights from BDA to HPN, BOS and FLL.

https://downloads.regulations.gov/DOT-O ... ment_1.pdf

fowlr29 wrote:

FlyAlways, PZ-TFB, operating for Jetair. PJ-JAC on ground for mx again, while JAB still hasn't been fixed since January. Flights cancelled and rescheduled since Sunday, they're still playing catchup on the schedule. One really wonders how long this can go on for, the F70s are definitely being a pain for them.

Hearing EZAir has ditched their Saab 2000 plans due to lack of Saab 2000 typed, qualified crew? Who would have thought?

Spares probably are becoming harder to come by for Fokkers add the global logistical challenges it probably explains their difficulties. However, those aircraft were probably cheap to acquire, would they have the funds to refleet? I assume they have delayed their BGI and KIN flights.

SJU Updates:

Terminal D (really Gate D2 - former gate D9 in the AA hub configuration) opened in March 2023. Gate D2 walkthrough in the video TR below:

Vuelo Completo SJU - STT | Full Flight SJU - STT

Source: YouTube user "Adrian Alejandro"

Aerostar is trying to convince airlines to move its operations to the three jetway-equipped gates on the former Terminal E (also now called "D")

Aerostar inaugurates new $14M Terminal D at LMM Airport

Source: newsismybusiness.com

Aerostar has on the docket a westward expansion of Terminal A - not sure if this is formalized or just a plan. The picture was uploaded on the same day Terminal D opened, so I suspect Aerostar likely had a gallery of future terminal plans at the opening ceremony.

Expansion Terminal A

Source: Flickr user "Carlos Rodriguez"

phatfarmlines wrote:

SJU Updates:

Terminal D (really Gate D2 - former gate D9 in the AA hub configuration) opened in March 2023. Gate D2 walkthrough in the video TR below:

Vuelo Completo SJU - STT | Full Flight SJU - STT

Source: YouTube user "Adrian Alejandro"

Aerostar is trying to convince airlines to move its operations to the three jetway-equipped gates on the former Terminal E (also now called "D")

Aerostar inaugurates new $14M Terminal D at LMM Airport

Source: newsismybusiness.com

Aerostar has on the docket a westward expansion of Terminal A - not sure if this is formalized or just a plan. The picture was uploaded on the same day Terminal D opened, so I suspect Aerostar likely had a gallery of future terminal plans at the opening ceremony.

Expansion Terminal A

Source: Flickr user "Carlos Rodriguez"

I don’t see remodeled restrooms mentioned. The existing ones by the Air Antilles gate are gross.

Copa (CM) has increased service on the PTY-BGI-PTY route to 3x weekly for July and August 2023. These flights are targeted to peak summer traffic for Crop Over. Services revert to 2x weekly in September. As also announced by BTMI (BGI Tourism) the service will increase to 4x weekly in December. December flights are not loaded in the GDS as yet.

windian425 wrote:

Copa (CM) has increased service on the PTY-BGI-PTY route to 3x weekly for July and August 2023. These flights are targeted to peak summer traffic for Crop Over. Services revert to 2x weekly in September. As also announced by BTMI (BGI Tourism) the service will increase to 4x weekly in December. December flights are not loaded in the GDS as yet.

Definitely good news anecdotally I've heard more Bajans taking trips to PTY and more people have probably done connections to the States via PTY.

baje427 wrote:

windian425 wrote:

Copa (CM) has increased service on the PTY-BGI-PTY route to 3x weekly for July and August 2023. These flights are targeted to peak summer traffic for Crop Over. Services revert to 2x weekly in September. As also announced by BTMI (BGI Tourism) the service will increase to 4x weekly in December. December flights are not loaded in the GDS as yet.

Definitely good news anecdotally I've heard more Bajans taking trips to PTY and more people have probably done connections to the States via PTY.

With limited capacity and higher fares on AA and B6, the options via PTY have become increasingly attractive.

CAL's 9th ATR is on its way home 9Y-TTH.

Once can only assume that the final 2 announced ATRs will be registered 9Y-TTJ and 9Y-TTK!

Congrats to CAL on this significant expansion to having an eventual fleet of 12 737-Max8s and 11 ATR-72-600s.

Cheers,
AA1818

JYs 3rd ATR and 2nd ATR42 is being delivered. Reg 8Q-VAX until it gets to PLS. Not sure what it will be registered once arrived. Things are certainly heating up in the Caribbean.

Any word on WMs ATRs?

Can’t wait to see how CAL will deploy these new ATR’s and 737’s.

LimaFoxTango wrote:

JYs 3rd ATR and 2nd ATR42 is being delivered. Reg 8Q-VAX until it gets to PLS. Not sure what it will be registered once arrived. Things are certainly heating up in the Caribbean.

Any word on WMs ATRs?

Guess we’re just waiting for Air Peace to refleet LI now

LimaFoxTango wrote:

JYs 3rd ATR and 2nd ATR42 is being delivered. Reg 8Q-VAX until it gets to PLS. Not sure what it will be registered once arrived. Things are certainly heating up in the Caribbean.

Any word on WMs ATRs?

C-Check is completed, just finishing up painting before delivery.

In the past it was always said there wasn't much money in regional flying it'll be interesting to see how BW does with this expansion.

Brickell305 wrote:

LimaFoxTango wrote:

JYs 3rd ATR and 2nd ATR42 is being delivered. Reg 8Q-VAX until it gets to PLS. Not sure what it will be registered once arrived. Things are certainly heating up in the Caribbean.

Any word on WMs ATRs?

Guess we’re just waiting for Air Peace to refleet LI now

I fully expect to hear word of jet aircraft being added to the fleet.

Air Peace does have a number of 737s in its fleet...

aa1818 wrote:

CAL's 9th ATR is on its way home 9Y-TTH.

Once can only assume that the final 2 announced ATRs will be registered 9Y-TTJ and 9Y-TTK!

Congrats to CAL on this significant expansion to having an eventual fleet of 12 737-Max8s and 11 ATR-72-600s.

Cheers,
AA1818

Has CAL confirmed additional Max's coming in? I know they have options for 3 more, but is it confirmed that the 3 are coming

maverick4002 wrote:

Has CAL confirmed additional Max's coming in? I know they have options for 3 more, but is it confirmed that the 3 are coming

https://trinidadexpress.com/business/lo ... 4acbb.html

So I haven't heard any further or formal details... but...
But with an RFP having gone out and the public announcement on the intention to acquire 3 more 737 Max8s, as well as their similar announcement on the ATRs (which has materialized), I am leaning to believing the CAL team that they'll be getting 3 additional 737-Max8s.
Remember they did initially announce 12 737s to replace the previous 12. During Covid this was reduced to 9, so very plausible that now with foreign carriers lagging in seats to POS that CAL should at least have its previously sized jet fleet to pick up the slack to North America.

Cheers,
AA1818

aa1818 wrote:

CAL's 9th ATR is on its way home 9Y-TTH.

Once can only assume that the final 2 announced ATRs will be registered 9Y-TTJ and 9Y-TTK!

Congrats to CAL on this significant expansion to having an eventual fleet of 12 737-Max8s and 11 ATR-72-600s.

Cheers,
AA1818

So far there is nothing in the system in terms of additional regional routes yet, however the airline over the weekend made some schedule changes to North America:

YYZ:
KIN is going from 1w to 2w permanently from July, still down from 3w they typically had in the peak season pre-covid but good that they will be back to normal off-peak demand.
POS: Nonstop flights will increase from 7w to 8w in the off peak and during the summer they will have 9w flights with a morning daylight flight returning to compliment connections from GND and BGI.
GEO: Will remain 3 weekly, however the flight will leave POS in the morning daylight instead of the red eye. I guess this is to help POS business pax plan for a day trip and it returns in the late night into POS.

JFK
KIN: moving from 6w to 7w with a mixture of morning and late evening flights from July
MBJ: Maybe have to wait to fully upload since it may not be updated yet but moving from 4w-2w in July.
POS: Moving from 7w to 12w with the new 5w additions a mixture of morning and late evening flights just like KIN from July
GEO: no changes in frequency.

MCO:
Moving from 2w to 3w in the off-peak season starting June, and 4w in the peak season starting July.

FLL
Moving from 2w to 4w permanently in July.

MIA: I expect that they will have to eventually move MIA to about 9w flights eventually as LF are well above 90% now.

Brickell305 wrote:

LimaFoxTango wrote:

JYs 3rd ATR and 2nd ATR42 is being delivered. Reg 8Q-VAX until it gets to PLS. Not sure what it will be registered once arrived. Things are certainly heating up in the Caribbean.

Any word on WMs ATRs?

Guess we’re just waiting for Air Peace to refleet LI now

A sad reality of politics in this region sometimes and beating a dead horse, without any kind of thought process or strategy.

aa1818 wrote:

CAL's 9th ATR is on its way home 9Y-TTH.

Once can only assume that the final 2 announced ATRs will be registered 9Y-TTJ and 9Y-TTK!

Congrats to CAL on this significant expansion to having an eventual fleet of 12 737-Max8s and 11 ATR-72-600s.

Cheers,
AA1818

It flew some long legs

aa1818 wrote:

maverick4002 wrote:

Has CAL confirmed additional Max's coming in? I know they have options for 3 more, but is it confirmed that the 3 are coming

https://trinidadexpress.com/business/lo ... 4acbb.html

So I haven't heard any further or formal details... but...
But with an RFP having gone out and the public announcement on the intention to acquire 3 more 737 Max8s, as well as their similar announcement on the ATRs (which has materialized), I am leaning to believing the CAL team that they'll be getting 3 additional 737-Max8s.
Remember they did initially announce 12 737s to replace the previous 12. During Covid this was reduced to 9, so very plausible that now with foreign carriers lagging in seats to POS that CAL should at least have its previously sized jet fleet to pick up the slack to North America.

Cheers,
AA1818

I think BW should look to acquire one or two of the Max 9 or 10. Specifically for JFK and YYZ.

caribbean484 wrote:

Brickell305 wrote:

LimaFoxTango wrote:

JYs 3rd ATR and 2nd ATR42 is being delivered. Reg 8Q-VAX until it gets to PLS. Not sure what it will be registered once arrived. Things are certainly heating up in the Caribbean.

Any word on WMs ATRs?

Guess we’re just waiting for Air Peace to refleet LI now

A sad reality of politics in this region sometimes and beating a dead horse, without any kind of thought process or strategy.

It would be so much better if there was transparency and collaboration between BW, JY, and WM. All with ATRs on their intra regional routes and a need to provide the seamless connectivity that LI once did when it provided regional services from SJU in the north to OGL in the south. While it is now clear that LI is doomed I think that we will still miss them, unless there is collaboration.

caribbean484 wrote:

aa1818 wrote:

CAL's 9th ATR is on its way home 9Y-TTH.

Once can only assume that the final 2 announced ATRs will be registered 9Y-TTJ and 9Y-TTK!

Congrats to CAL on this significant expansion to having an eventual fleet of 12 737-Max8s and 11 ATR-72-600s.

Cheers,
AA1818

So far there is nothing in the system in terms of additional regional routes yet, however the airline over the weekend made some schedule changes to North America:

YYZ:
KIN is going from 1w to 2w permanently from July, still down from 3w they typically had in the peak season pre-covid but good that they will be back to normal off-peak demand.
POS: Nonstop flights will increase from 7w to 8w in the off peak and during the summer they will have 9w flights with a morning daylight flight returning to compliment connections from GND and BGI.
GEO: Will remain 3 weekly, however the flight will leave POS in the morning daylight instead of the red eye. I guess this is to help POS business pax plan for a day trip and it returns in the late night into POS.

JFK
KIN: moving from 6w to 7w with a mixture of morning and late evening flights from July
MBJ: Maybe have to wait to fully upload since it may not be updated yet but moving from 4w-2w in July.
POS: Moving from 7w to 12w with the new 5w additions a mixture of morning and late evening flights just like KIN from July
GEO: no changes in frequency.

MCO:
Moving from 2w to 3w in the off-peak season starting June, and 4w in the peak season starting July.

FLL
Moving from 2w to 4w permanently in July.

MIA: I expect that they will have to eventually move MIA to about 9w flights eventually as LF are well above 90% now.

Thanks, are these increases coming from the same Max fleet as of today? If so, I guess there was a lot of slack available in the scheduling!

maverick4002 wrote:

caribbean484 wrote:

aa1818 wrote:

CAL's 9th ATR is on its way home 9Y-TTH.

Once can only assume that the final 2 announced ATRs will be registered 9Y-TTJ and 9Y-TTK!

Congrats to CAL on this significant expansion to having an eventual fleet of 12 737-Max8s and 11 ATR-72-600s.

Cheers,
AA1818

So far there is nothing in the system in terms of additional regional routes yet, however the airline over the weekend made some schedule changes to North America:

YYZ:
KIN is going from 1w to 2w permanently from July, still down from 3w they typically had in the peak season pre-covid but good that they will be back to normal off-peak demand.
POS: Nonstop flights will increase from 7w to 8w in the off peak and during the summer they will have 9w flights with a morning daylight flight returning to compliment connections from GND and BGI.
GEO: Will remain 3 weekly, however the flight will leave POS in the morning daylight instead of the red eye. I guess this is to help POS business pax plan for a day trip and it returns in the late night into POS.

JFK
KIN: moving from 6w to 7w with a mixture of morning and late evening flights from July
MBJ: Maybe have to wait to fully upload since it may not be updated yet but moving from 4w-2w in July.
POS: Moving from 7w to 12w with the new 5w additions a mixture of morning and late evening flights just like KIN from July
GEO: no changes in frequency.

MCO:
Moving from 2w to 3w in the off-peak season starting June, and 4w in the peak season starting July.

FLL
Moving from 2w to 4w permanently in July.

MIA: I expect that they will have to eventually move MIA to about 9w flights eventually as LF are well above 90% now.

Thanks, are these increases coming from the same Max fleet as of today? If so, I guess there was a lot of slack available in the scheduling!

There was definitely slack in the schedule. There was a ramp up around carnival that showed that. I think the issue was more crew related than fleet related. I believe they have rehired more cabin and flight crew and have gotten more of them current.

A bit more news about Air Peace and LIAT.
https://www.stvincenttimes.com/air-peace-to-acquire-a-70-percent-stake-in-liat-2020/

Antigua (ANU) is in over at Frontier. The ULCC will resume flights to Antigua (ANU) in November with the only service to Orlando (MCO).

This week, Frontier announced that it would be making its official comeback to Antigua’s VC Bird International Airport, relaunching its popular route between Orlando and Antigua. Orlando-Antigua flights are kicking off on Nov. 4, with weekly nonstop service between Orlando and Antigua.
The flights will be running through at least March 30, 2024, according to Antiguan officials.

https://www.caribjournal.com/2023/05/15 ... -airlines/

It seems that F9 will be canceling KIN-ATL from July?

gunnerman wrote:

A bit more news about Air Peace and LIAT.
https://www.stvincenttimes.com/air-peace-to-acquire-a-70-percent-stake-in-liat-2020/

By the time this deal comes about where would LI fly these 6 aircraft? The Southern Caribbean is pretty much covered. JY,3S,WM and seemingly 3M would have the North covered. If this deal happened perhaps a year earlier it would have made sense now LI has more competition than it did pre Covid.

Are you sure that Air Peace knows that they are about to acquire 70% of LIAT?

baje427 wrote:

gunnerman wrote:

A bit more news about Air Peace and LIAT.
https://www.stvincenttimes.com/air-peace-to-acquire-a-70-percent-stake-in-liat-2020/

By the time this deal comes about where would LI fly these 6 aircraft? The Southern Caribbean is pretty much covered. JY,3S,WM and seemingly 3M would have the North covered. If this deal happened perhaps a year earlier it would have made sense now LI has more competition than it did pre Covid.

Still some gaps that JY needs to fill. EIS and especially ANU into SKB. Even now BA has recently been flying more people on the SKB ANU route than they anticipate, this at times apparently interrupting their ops. An example being last minute fuel purchases for the ANU SKB ANU sectors if the plane is heavier than expected. This was recently reported to me by people traveling LGW SKB. This because oof the paucity of LI service on this route with formerly 2x daily service now down to 2x weekly.

caribny wrote:

baje427 wrote:

gunnerman wrote:

A bit more news about Air Peace and LIAT.
https://www.stvincenttimes.com/air-peace-to-acquire-a-70-percent-stake-in-liat-2020/

By the time this deal comes about where would LI fly these 6 aircraft? The Southern Caribbean is pretty much covered. JY,3S,WM and seemingly 3M would have the North covered. If this deal happened perhaps a year earlier it would have made sense now LI has more competition than it did pre Covid.

Still some gaps that JY needs to fill. EIS and especially ANU into SKB. Even now BA has recently been flying more people on the SKB ANU route than they anticipate, this at times apparently interrupting their ops. An example being last minute fuel purchases for the ANU SKB ANU sectors if the plane is heavier than expected. This was recently reported to me by people traveling LGW SKB. This because oof the paucity of LI service on this route with formerly 2x daily service now down to 2x weekly.

LI should start focusing on providing adequate service on important routes like ANU-SKB-ANU and stop trying to serve all routes with such low frequencies.

windian425 wrote:

caribny wrote:

baje427 wrote:

By the time this deal comes about where would LI fly these 6 aircraft? The Southern Caribbean is pretty much covered. JY,3S,WM and seemingly 3M would have the North covered. If this deal happened perhaps a year earlier it would have made sense now LI has more competition than it did pre Covid.

Still some gaps that JY needs to fill. EIS and especially ANU into SKB. Even now BA has recently been flying more people on the SKB ANU route than they anticipate, this at times apparently interrupting their ops. An example being last minute fuel purchases for the ANU SKB ANU sectors if the plane is heavier than expected. This was recently reported to me by people traveling LGW SKB. This because oof the paucity of LI service on this route with formerly 2x daily service now down to 2x weekly.

LI should start focusing on providing adequate service on important routes like ANU-SKB-ANU and stop trying to serve all routes with such low frequencies.

Do they have the resources right now to do so?

Dominican low cost Arajet will begin nonstop non regular (charter) services between Santo Domingo SDQ and Sao Paulo GRU effective 22-28SEP, 3x w with the 737 MAX 8s. As these are chartered flights, tickets must be sold exclusively by travel agencies. The expectation, as previously indicated by the company, is that flights will eventually become regular.

https://aeroin.net/arajet-tem-voos-para ... -setembro/

baje427 wrote:

windian425 wrote:

caribny wrote:

Still some gaps that JY needs to fill. EIS and especially ANU into SKB. Even now BA has recently been flying more people on the SKB ANU route than they anticipate, this at times apparently interrupting their ops. An example being last minute fuel purchases for the ANU SKB ANU sectors if the plane is heavier than expected. This was recently reported to me by people traveling LGW SKB. This because oof the paucity of LI service on this route with formerly 2x daily service now down to 2x weekly.

LI should start focusing on providing adequate service on important routes like ANU-SKB-ANU and stop trying to serve all routes with such low frequencies.

Do they have the resources right now to do so?

The limited resources may actually be why they should focus on a few routes and offer decent frequencies. In the post pandemic world offering low frequencies with multiple stops is no longer going to work. LI knows where their best numbers are. The notion of intra regional travel operating as a public utility is over. At least until JY fails, if it does.

windian425 wrote:

caribny wrote:

baje427 wrote:

By the time this deal comes about where would LI fly these 6 aircraft? The Southern Caribbean is pretty much covered. JY,3S,WM and seemingly 3M would have the North covered. If this deal happened perhaps a year earlier it would have made sense now LI has more competition than it did pre Covid.

Still some gaps that JY needs to fill. EIS and especially ANU into SKB. Even now BA has recently been flying more people on the SKB ANU route than they anticipate, this at times apparently interrupting their ops. An example being last minute fuel purchases for the ANU SKB ANU sectors if the plane is heavier than expected. This was recently reported to me by people traveling LGW SKB. This because oof the paucity of LI service on this route with formerly 2x daily service now down to 2x weekly.

LI should start focusing on providing adequate service on important routes like ANU-SKB-ANU and stop trying to serve all routes with such low frequencies.

I agree. By trying to serve all those destinations at a low frequency, they make themselves irrelevant everywhere instead of making themselves relevant anywhere. If they focused on just the major routes, they’d at least be relevant in those places.

caribny wrote:

baje427 wrote:

windian425 wrote:

LI should start focusing on providing adequate service on important routes like ANU-SKB-ANU and stop trying to serve all routes with such low frequencies.

Do they have the resources right now to do so?

The limited resources may actually be why they should focus on a few routes and offer decent frequencies. In the post pandemic world offering low frequencies with multiple stops is no longer going to work. LI knows where their best numbers are. The notion of intra regional travel operating as a public utility is over. At least until JY fails, if it does.

JY is really having a rough go with reliability, their E145's seem to go tech every other week.

baje427 wrote:

JY is really having a rough go with reliability, their E145's seem to go tech every other week.

No shock given that JYs fleet is older than a fewer of the posters on this forum. I do not think that we have nay kids here.

As much as I share the view that LIs existence is probably not for long JY makes me worry that BGI might regret allowing it to dominate that hub.

CAL launching their "Welcome Home" programme in BGI next Friday, 26 May 2023. With the 2 new ATR's already in POS, hopeful that they will also announce additional services from BGI with an improved flight schedule. Currently none of their flights operate daily.

windian425 wrote:

CAL launching their "Welcome Home" programme in BGI next Friday, 26 May 2023. With the 2 new ATR's already in POS, hopeful that they will also announce additional services from BGI with an improved flight schedule. Currently none of their flights operate daily.

Aren't POS and OGL daily?

caribny wrote:

baje427 wrote:

JY is really having a rough go with reliability, their E145's seem to go tech every other week.

No shock given that JYs fleet is older than a fewer of the posters on this forum. I do not think that we have nay kids here.

As much as I share the view that LIs existence is probably not for long JY makes me worry that BGI might regret allowing it to dominate that hub.

BGI is allowing anyone to come hence the 3S,BW and JY ops it just so happened JY came in at a good time and subsequently expanded however their operation leave a lot to be desired.