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cathay747 wrote:Can somebody explain to me why ALL flights outbound and inbound were grounded for the entire airport? I mean, this is tragic, but it seems a severe overreaction given that it's not reported the death was due to a shooting or other security-related incident.
Prost wrote:What is the likelihood for American to expand their international footprint out of SEA? I know they were planning on BLR and PVG prior to covid, but do they have the equipment now to do it?
rjbesikof wrote:You think AA will start SEA or DFW-CAN to feed CZ once China reopens and there are no more hurdles?
jplatts wrote:AA adding ELP-JFK nonstop service is a possibility with the lack of NYC-ELP nonstop service being one of the biggest holes in both markets.
The PDEW of ELP-NYC was 138 passengers/day in Q2 2022, and AA was carrying more of the ELP-JFK connecting traffic than DL, UA, or WN in Q2 2022.
If AA ELP-JFK nonstop service is added, AA would also have some connecting traffic to New England and Europe on ELP-JFK nonstop flights in addition to ELP-JFK O&D.
There are also a few destinations with AA nonstop service out of LGA/JFK that don't currently have any nonstop service out of NYC on other airlines, including FCA, MTY, GIG, and TUL.
ELP also isn't currently served by either B6 or NK.
rrichard38 wrote:jplatts wrote:AA adding ELP-JFK nonstop service is a possibility with the lack of NYC-ELP nonstop service being one of the biggest holes in both markets.
The PDEW of ELP-NYC was 138 passengers/day in Q2 2022, and AA was carrying more of the ELP-JFK connecting traffic than DL, UA, or WN in Q2 2022.
If AA ELP-JFK nonstop service is added, AA would also have some connecting traffic to New England and Europe on ELP-JFK nonstop flights in addition to ELP-JFK O&D.
There are also a few destinations with AA nonstop service out of LGA/JFK that don't currently have any nonstop service out of NYC on other airlines, including FCA, MTY, GIG, and TUL.
ELP also isn't currently served by either B6 or NK.
I’d expect Q3 and Q4 PDEW on ELP-NYC to be much higher given the border situation…
FlyingSicilian wrote:rrichard38 wrote:jplatts wrote:AA adding ELP-JFK nonstop service is a possibility with the lack of NYC-ELP nonstop service being one of the biggest holes in both markets.
The PDEW of ELP-NYC was 138 passengers/day in Q2 2022, and AA was carrying more of the ELP-JFK connecting traffic than DL, UA, or WN in Q2 2022.
If AA ELP-JFK nonstop service is added, AA would also have some connecting traffic to New England and Europe on ELP-JFK nonstop flights in addition to ELP-JFK O&D.
There are also a few destinations with AA nonstop service out of LGA/JFK that don't currently have any nonstop service out of NYC on other airlines, including FCA, MTY, GIG, and TUL.
ELP also isn't currently served by either B6 or NK.
I’d expect Q3 and Q4 PDEW on ELP-NYC to be much higher given the border situation…
Not to go non-av but will say a good percentage of those folks cannot fly as they don't have any ID at all so not sure how much of a driver that will be. Uncle Sam drives a lot of ELP traffic, but he runs his own airline also lol
alasizon wrote:FlyingSicilian wrote:rrichard38 wrote:
I’d expect Q3 and Q4 PDEW on ELP-NYC to be much higher given the border situation…
Not to go non-av but will say a good percentage of those folks cannot fly as they don't have any ID at all so not sure how much of a driver that will be. Uncle Sam drives a lot of ELP traffic, but he runs his own airline also lol
Refugees certainly do fly commercial too. PHX-CLT and PHX-MIA every morning usually has 10-20 unaccompanied minors that are all refugees.
I don't see ELP-NYC ever happening though - ELP isn't a high yielding market and it chews up a lot of aircraft time from NYC. If JFK-TUS didn't work, ELP stands less of a chance.
FlyingSicilian wrote:rrichard38 wrote:jplatts wrote:AA adding ELP-JFK nonstop service is a possibility with the lack of NYC-ELP nonstop service being one of the biggest holes in both markets.
The PDEW of ELP-NYC was 138 passengers/day in Q2 2022, and AA was carrying more of the ELP-JFK connecting traffic than DL, UA, or WN in Q2 2022.
If AA ELP-JFK nonstop service is added, AA would also have some connecting traffic to New England and Europe on ELP-JFK nonstop flights in addition to ELP-JFK O&D.
There are also a few destinations with AA nonstop service out of LGA/JFK that don't currently have any nonstop service out of NYC on other airlines, including FCA, MTY, GIG, and TUL.
ELP also isn't currently served by either B6 or NK.
I’d expect Q3 and Q4 PDEW on ELP-NYC to be much higher given the border situation…
Not to go non-av but will say a good percentage of those folks cannot fly as they don't have any ID at all so not sure how much of a driver that will be. Uncle Sam drives a lot of ELP traffic, but he runs his own airline also lol
rrichard38 wrote:jplatts wrote:AA adding ELP-JFK nonstop service is a possibility with the lack of NYC-ELP nonstop service being one of the biggest holes in both markets.
The PDEW of ELP-NYC was 138 passengers/day in Q2 2022, and AA was carrying more of the ELP-JFK connecting traffic than DL, UA, or WN in Q2 2022.
If AA ELP-JFK nonstop service is added, AA would also have some connecting traffic to New England and Europe on ELP-JFK nonstop flights in addition to ELP-JFK O&D.
There are also a few destinations with AA nonstop service out of LGA/JFK that don't currently have any nonstop service out of NYC on other airlines, including FCA, MTY, GIG, and TUL.
ELP also isn't currently served by either B6 or NK.
I’d expect Q3 and Q4 PDEW on ELP-NYC to be much higher given the border situation…
MAH4546 wrote:FlyingSicilian wrote:rrichard38 wrote:
I’d expect Q3 and Q4 PDEW on ELP-NYC to be much higher given the border situation…
Not to go non-av but will say a good percentage of those folks cannot fly as they don't have any ID at all so not sure how much of a driver that will be. Uncle Sam drives a lot of ELP traffic, but he runs his own airline also lol
Anybody can fly without ID. You will have enhanced security screening.
LongLayover wrote:Are they planning to make CVG into another AUS or BOS type operation?
LongLayover wrote:Are they planning to make CVG into another AUS or BOS type operation?
LongLayover wrote:Are they planning to make CVG into another AUS or BOS type operation?
American 767 wrote:LongLayover wrote:Are they planning to make CVG into another AUS or BOS type operation?
I think that they should consider selling seats on their BOS-LAX nonstop, as three-class layout, like they have on JFK-LAX/SFO.
American 767 wrote:LongLayover wrote:Are they planning to make CVG into another AUS or BOS type operation?
I don't see CVG becoming an AA hub.
USAirALB wrote:American 767 wrote:LongLayover wrote:Are they planning to make CVG into another AUS or BOS type operation?
I think that they should consider selling seats on their BOS-LAX nonstop, as three-class layout, like they have on JFK-LAX/SFO.
They already do.
USAirALB wrote:American 767 wrote:LongLayover wrote:Are they planning to make CVG into another AUS or BOS type operation?
I think that they should consider selling seats on their BOS-LAX nonstop, as three-class layout, like they have on JFK-LAX/SFO.
They already do.
Eolesen wrote:Yeah, I don't get the love affair with CVG. It's the 30th largest MSMA in the United States, and I'd think there are a lot better targets for growth. Even STL is bigger and we know how that ended up.
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LAXintl wrote:Team letter from COO David Seymour looking back on the airlines strong holiday performance
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FllbPcEXgAA ... name=large
American 767 wrote:USAirALB wrote:American 767 wrote:I think that they should consider selling seats on their BOS-LAX nonstop, as three-class layout, like they have on JFK-LAX/SFO.
They already do.
Yes you're right. Twice daily. Thank you. I didn't know. I just checked on aa.com and I found out. I never knew BOS-LAX nonstop was three-class service.
smi0006 wrote:First time poster on the AA thread - quick questions for the experts. It was discussed in the Aussie thread about AA picking up more Australia flying, potentially DFW-BNE - but I vaguely recall there is an issue with AA crew doing ULH fly ( think it was cabin crew) and DFW-AU is just too far. Can anyone remind me if this is correct, or if I’ve got it completely wrong.
dcajet wrote:After 18 months of operations, American Airlines made its last flight between Santiago de Chile and New York JFK on Tuesday, January 3rd, which was operated 3x w with 777-223ER equipment.
The route did not meet the airline's commercial expectations.
ContinentalEWR wrote:dcajet wrote:After 18 months of operations, American Airlines made its last flight between Santiago de Chile and New York JFK on Tuesday, January 3rd, which was operated 3x w with 777-223ER equipment.
The route did not meet the airline's commercial expectations.
Not really surprising it didn't work. There were a few things stacked against AA on this route, which AA presumably launched to offset the loss of the LATAM partnership a few years prior. The 77E was likely way too much capacity and plane for this market, and it didn't operate daily. LATAM has been in the market for years, consistently serving it daily and currently with the right plane for the route, the 787, which AA doesn't fly out of JFK. Believe AA is restoring DFW-SCL, which was cut to start the JFK route.
BoeingGuy wrote:ContinentalEWR wrote:dcajet wrote:After 18 months of operations, American Airlines made its last flight between Santiago de Chile and New York JFK on Tuesday, January 3rd, which was operated 3x w with 777-223ER equipment.
The route did not meet the airline's commercial expectations.
Not really surprising it didn't work. There were a few things stacked against AA on this route, which AA presumably launched to offset the loss of the LATAM partnership a few years prior. The 77E was likely way too much capacity and plane for this market, and it didn't operate daily. LATAM has been in the market for years, consistently serving it daily and currently with the right plane for the route, the 787, which AA doesn't fly out of JFK. Believe AA is restoring DFW-SCL, which was cut to start the JFK route.
I saw the DFW-SCL flight pushing back at DFW the other night. It is already restored.
AA has flown DFW-SCL and DFW-GRU since the beginning of time. It was DFW-EZE that came later around 2003.
LAXintl wrote:Team letter from COO David Seymour looking back on the airlines strong holiday performance
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FllbPcEXgAA ... name=large
BA744PHX wrote:LongLayover wrote:Are they planning to make CVG into another AUS or BOS type operation?
Why would they?
voxkel wrote:Was just thinking - could AA make CLT or DFW to ZRH work? Was curious why they run ZRH out of PHL instead of one of CLT/DFW.
voxkel wrote:Was just thinking - could AA make CLT or DFW to ZRH work? Was curious why they run ZRH out of PHL instead of one of CLT/DFW.
voxkel wrote:Was just thinking - could AA make CLT or DFW to ZRH work? Was curious why they run ZRH out of PHL instead of one of CLT/DFW.