amtravels wrote:

USAirALB wrote:

Bit of a random question, but is there any reason why UA didn't install the green "running man" exit signs on their 787 as every other carrier seems to have done? I recall seeing images from their first 787 delivery years ago that had the green signs, so I am guessing they were swapped out.

It couldn't be a U.S. regulatory thing, as AA has them on their 787s, B6 has them on their A321LR/A220, and DL has them on their A350s/767s/A220s/A321s.

Would love to know this as well. Flew on a DL A321 LGA-ATL this morning and it had the green “running man” exit signs as well. I’ve seen this on numerous DL narrowbodies but no UA narrowbodies. Don’t recall seeing it on any UA widebodies either but surely I’m mistaken.

Personally, I’d think it would make sense to use the running man fleet wide for consistency?

I don't think I have ever seen it on any Sky Interior 737. I am not sure if Boeing offers it as an option on the 737 family. I heard AC's 787s have the green running man signs but their Sky Interior 737s have the standard red text "EXIT" signs. I think the same is true for AA, their 737 MAX has standard red text signs, but their 787s have the green running man signs.

It would be interesting to see what Delta's 737 MAX 10 will have. Delta seems to be a fan of the green running man signs, retrofitting their 767s with them.

So it isn’t time-consuming to refresh the IFE systems? Meaning, you can just update the screens and hardware without having to refurbish the entire plane?

If so, then that’s awesome.

Cmac787 wrote:

New Delivery
MAX8
N17300 is scheduled to enter RFD induction F2702/28 Mar

More Max8 news: 5 total white tails as discussed above, but I think they are getting close to completion.
YLW:
287 - BOE516 flew 2:15 minute test hop yesterday YLW-YLW (27Mar). Painted EvoBlu, flew up to YLW 20 Jan, so roughly 2 months to complete changes. Usually after a test hop at YLW or GYR, they go to PAE within a few days and then a few days later are out to induction.
283 - Flew BFI-YLW 2 Feb, painted EvoBlu, so maybe two weeks behind 287 in the YLW process.
290 - Former Urumpki, then painted China Eastern, now UA. Likely painted at VCV in Jan, flew up to YLW 24 Feb. Maybe one month out.

GYR:
289 - In GYR since 12 Jan, painted EvoBlu, likely getting close.
291 - Painted EvoBlu, now at GYR since 11Jan, so likely getting close (280 and 288 recently came from GYR, and had similar timelines)

Current build 73M like N17300 above fly 4-5 test hops including paint at VCV, and then out they go. N17301 is painted, and flew its third hop yesterday, likely one more and then out the door. Could reasonably expect four of the five remaining white tails and 301 within the next ten days.

737MAX9 New Delivery:
N37556 sked to enter RFD Induction 2710/30Mar

Sounds like N641UA had an engine fire on takeoff from IAH tonight. That particular plane does seem to have been involved in a few incidents in recent years.

SBAer wrote:

Sounds like N641UA had an engine fire on takeoff from IAH tonight. That particular plane does seem to have been involved in a few incidents in recent years.

Anecdotally engine fires in total seem more common on 763s than other types. Is that true? Something about the CF6?

SumChristianus wrote:

SBAer wrote:

Sounds like N641UA had an engine fire on takeoff from IAH tonight. That particular plane does seem to have been involved in a few incidents in recent years.

Anecdotally engine fires in total seem more common on 763s than other types. Is that true? Something about the CF6?

Even if it is, United used the PW4000 on the 763, not the CF6.

Do not see any slowdown for Paints.

Show 3 in AMA for Full Strip and Paint,
#0420
#0865
#2888
Show 3 in ROW for Full Strip and Paint
#0114
#0848
#6673

Update
#4001 04 Apr ETR

#4238 14 Apr ETR

SumChristianus wrote:

SBAer wrote:

Sounds like N641UA had an engine fire on takeoff from IAH tonight. That particular plane does seem to have been involved in a few incidents in recent years.

Anecdotally engine fires in total seem more common on 763s than other types. Is that true? Something about the CF6?

Like posted, 763s are P&W 4060s , 764s are GE CF-80C2s.

Jet Engines always have fire inside of them when running. For extinguishing purposes, it is a engine fire that is between the cowling and the engine case. If the EGT shows rising temps that is in the engine internally, extinguishing bottles do not fire there. Cut fuel off to the engine.
Internal problems, such as a compressor or turbine blade letting go, will let the fire in the combustion chambers get out and sometimes come out the exhaust, looking like a fire. Usually that is a engine change.
The engine either stalls and damages the blades or blade damage makes the engine stall. #6441 is getting #1 engine changed. There was metal debris in the tailpipe.

In the old days, like on a JT8D, P&D valve not working correctly could give a engine compressor stall, borescope would show no damage. Could compressor stall multiple times and the engine runs fine. Now with the newer engines, compressor stalls usually mean internal damage.

This is not #6441 #1 Engine, but similar...

764 mod:
N66057 ferrying HNL-GUM-HKG for Polaris/PP install:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66057

N69059 sked to ferry PVG-GUM 2694/1Apr with Polaris/PP:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N69059

4 complete, 5 in mod, 7 awaiting mod.

739 paint:
N66848 sked to ferry ROW-IAH 2735/29Mar in EvoBlu livery (thanks CALTECH for the clarification):
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66848

sldispatcher wrote:

Any insight on how Mesa is performing yet?

The Mesa CRJ900s continue to suffer from mx issues

SBAer wrote:

Sounds like N641UA had an engine fire on takeoff from IAH tonight. That particular plane does seem to have been involved in a few incidents in recent years.

Thanks for the intel. I was outside last night when they came hauling butt over my house as they turned final for 15R, so something had them needing to get on the ground as even on a 15 mile final that is much faster than I've seen anyone landing the 15's go past at that speed.

Not that I doubt CALTECH, but N66848 was repainted just 5 years ago and N673UA, which I had thought was getting painted in ROW, was said to be just getting maint a few days ago.

Would anyone have an idea on when would NEXT appear on 737s?

SgtBarone wrote:

764 mod:
N66057 ferrying HNL-GUM-HKG for Polaris/PP install:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66057

N69059 sked to ferry PVG-GUM 2694/1Apr with Polaris/PP:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N69059

4 complete, 5 in mod, 7 awaiting mod.

I remember someone posted on this forum a while back (even 2022?) a list of the 764s and their estimated RTS after Polaris mods, but I cannot find it. Is there and estimate for when N66057 would be expected out?

alanjed wrote:

SgtBarone wrote:

764 mod:
N66057 ferrying HNL-GUM-HKG for Polaris/PP install:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66057

N69059 sked to ferry PVG-GUM 2694/1Apr with Polaris/PP:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N69059

4 complete, 5 in mod, 7 awaiting mod.

I remember someone posted on this forum a while back (even 2022?) a list of the 764s and their estimated RTS after Polaris mods, but I cannot find it. Is there and estimate for when N66057 would be expected out?

They’re taking about 2.5-3 months to complete, so I’d say probably by end of June.

SgtBarone wrote:

alanjed wrote:

SgtBarone wrote:

764 mod:
N66057 ferrying HNL-GUM-HKG for Polaris/PP install:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66057

N69059 sked to ferry PVG-GUM 2694/1Apr with Polaris/PP:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N69059

4 complete, 5 in mod, 7 awaiting mod.

I remember someone posted on this forum a while back (even 2022?) a list of the 764s and their estimated RTS after Polaris mods, but I cannot find it. Is there and estimate for when N66057 would be expected out?

They’re taking about 2.5-3 months to complete, so I’d say probably by end of June.

Apropos that, N76062 is departing HKG today:
HKG-GUM 2705/Mar 30

And N77066 ferried to HNL Tuesday and scheduled to GUM today:
EWR-NHL 2812/Mar 27
HNL-GUM 2814/Mar 29

alanjed wrote:

SgtBarone wrote:

764 mod:
N66057 ferrying HNL-GUM-HKG for Polaris/PP install:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66057

N69059 sked to ferry PVG-GUM 2694/1Apr with Polaris/PP:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N69059

4 complete, 5 in mod, 7 awaiting mod.

I remember someone posted on this forum a while back (even 2022?) a list of the 764s and their estimated RTS after Polaris mods, but I cannot find it. Is there and estimate for when N66057 would be expected out?

I have that info on the Poaris spreadsheet of the UA Fleet Site. Unfortunately, it showed N66057 as a PVG Mod unit. In any case, it looks like 70 days is average, so expect 6/9/23 completion date.

320 Paint:
N413UA entered ROW 2734/29Mar for EvoBlu livery

787-10 New Delivery:
N13014 first revenue flight sked 1140/31Mar LAX-IAD

MAX9 New Delivery:
N37555 first revenue flight 2061/29Mar IAD-CLE

calpsafltskeds wrote:

Not that I doubt CALTECH, but N66848 was repainted just 5 years ago and N673UA, which I had thought was getting painted in ROW, was said to be just getting maint a few days ago.

Reviewed photos of N66848 and Jan 23 photo shows peeling paint on the tail.

UAX Update:

E175:
N89321 exited OKC, now in 175SC config
N86322 exited OKC, now in 175SC config
N85323 entered OKC
N86324 entered OKC

Skywest CR2:
N923SW exited fleet, now flying CW

Air Wis CR2:
N415AW returned to flying UAX
N420AW entered TUS
N423AW entered CKB
N425AW entered CKB
N434AW parked ROW
N442AW entered FTW paint
N451AW parked ROW
N458AW entered FTW paint
N459AW entered FTW paint
N467AW returned to flying UAX
N468AW parked ROW
The following exited FTW - awaiting disposition: 440, 444, 452

calpsafltskeds wrote:

calpsafltskeds wrote:

Not that I doubt CALTECH, but N66848 was repainted just 5 years ago and N673UA, which I had thought was getting painted in ROW, was said to be just getting maint a few days ago.

Reviewed photos of N66848 and Jan 23 photo shows peeling paint on the tail.

N673UA was scheduled for a MX Work Package, but the MX Work Package turned out to be a Full Strip And Paint.

N66848 Did I get something wrong ?

adamblang wrote:

jonahsachs wrote:

What do you mean by “directv to viasat?”

United has 4 different Wi-Fi connectivity providers:

• GoGo
• Panasonic
• Thales (formerly known as LiveTV, sometimes called DirecTV)
• ViaSat

https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly/tr ... -maps.html

Thales owns both DirecTV/LiveTV and ViaSat...

Thankfully the Paints are doing well...

CALTECH wrote:

N66848 Did I get something wrong ?

adamblang wrote:

jonahsachs wrote:

What do you mean by “directv to viasat?”

United has 4 different Wi-Fi connectivity providers:

• GoGo
• Panasonic
• Thales (formerly known as LiveTV, sometimes called DirecTV)
• ViaSat

https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly/tr ... -maps.html

Thales owns both DirecTV/LiveTV and ViaSat...

Well, in the original post, no.

In the follow-on post, yes.

Viasat is a publicly traded company.

Viasat is not owned by Thales, which is a different publicly traded company.

LiveTV, an IFE hardware manufacturer, bought (buys?) its bandwidth from Viasat, a satellite and communications company. They work together and have some integrated products.

(Thales bought LiveTV in 2014. Resulting in LiveTV = Thales.)

The latest and greatest Viasat-2 system doesn't include Thales in the project, with Viasat getting in on hardware, too.

Viasat-2 is what the MAXes and a smattering of other aircraft have onboard.

Thanks CT, cool pics. Used to see the CAL 727 takeoff over my apt in So Cal (every morning at freaking 7am) years ago in the 90s. Loud as you-know-what with those three tiny engines running wide-open and screaming through the sky. Live in the same area today and the Japan Airlines 787 daily to Tokyo isn't 1/4 of the sound of that 727, carries twice the people and cargo. Soooooo quiet.

CALTECH "N66848 Did I get something wrong ?"

No, I had questioned the 5-year previous paint as maybe too soon, but I saw photo evidence the aircraft had peeling paint on the tail, so repaint must have been deemed to be needed.

737MAX8 new delivery:
N17301 sked to enter GSO 2702/31Mar

Anyone know the philosophy on why UA is going with the PW1000G on the 321neos instead of the LEAP? It seems like the LEAP would have more commonality with the MAX fleet.

MLIAA wrote:

Anyone know the philosophy on why UA is going with the PW1000G on the 321neos instead of the LEAP? It seems like the LEAP would have more commonality with the MAX fleet.

Interesting article from a year ago, kind of a fluff piece but still indicates the future of GTF technology is adaptable with room to develop.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lorenthomp ... ff5c0745e5

From what I've read they are close, but I think the GTF is slightly more fuel efficient, and a little quieter. Has a cool howl with N1 at around 50% on spool up. But they probably got a good deal and maybe some extras. Talking about a total of maybe 325-350 engines...that is large.

YX update:

Looks like Embraer has started deliveries again.

N757YX and N758YX were delivered to IND earlier this week

737MAX8 New Delivery:
N47288 sked to exit TPA 2763/31Mar
First revenue flight 1877/2Apr IAH-DEN

737MAX8 new delivery:
N27287 sked to enter SEA 2712/31Mar
White tail
N47288 first revenue flight now 1548/31Mar

764 mod:
N76062 ferried HKG-GUM 2705/30Mar with Polaris/PP

N77066 ferrying HNL-GUM-PVG 2693/1Apr for Polaris/PP install:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N77066

5 complete, 5 in mod, 6 awaiting mod.

adamblang wrote:

CALTECH wrote:

N66848 Did I get something wrong ?

adamblang wrote:

United has 4 different Wi-Fi connectivity providers:

• GoGo
• Panasonic
• Thales (formerly known as LiveTV, sometimes called DirecTV)
• ViaSat

https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly/tr ... -maps.html

Thales owns both DirecTV/LiveTV and ViaSat...

Well, in the original post, no.

In the follow-on post, yes.

Viasat is a publicly traded company.

Viasat is not owned by Thales, which is a different publicly traded company.

LiveTV, an IFE hardware manufacturer, bought (buys?) its bandwidth from Viasat, a satellite and communications company. They work together and have some integrated products.

(Thales bought LiveTV in 2014. Resulting in LiveTV = Thales.)

The latest and greatest Viasat-2 system doesn't include Thales in the project, with Viasat getting in on hardware, too.

Viasat-2 is what the MAXes and a smattering of other aircraft have onboard.

Read a internal article and missed the 'partner' splattered everywhere....

https://cpl.thalesgroup.com/partners/viasat

Does anyone know when 321neo deliveries are expected to start?

Is this timeline right as to when deliveries will start:
A321neo - end of 2023
A321XLR - mid 2024
MAX10 - mid 2024

SgtBarone wrote:

764 mod:
N76062 ferried HKG-GUM 2705/30Mar with Polaris/PP

N77066 ferrying HNL-GUM-PVG 2693/1Apr for Polaris/PP install:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N77066

5 complete, 5 in mod, 6 awaiting mod.

While it is frustrating how long these are taking (3.3 months on average so far, which makes no sense given it is smaller and they were doing the 789s in 1.5 months), it is great they are doing retrofits on 5 at a time, which is more than they have done with any other plane at one time. At this pace by the peak summer season there should be very few (if any) still flying around without Polaris/PP.

Anyone know why N225UA has been stuck in AMS since March 27th?

InnsbruckFlyer wrote:

Anyone know why N225UA has been stuck in AMS since March 27th?

Not sure why it was stuck there, but it’s ferrying AMS-SFO in a couple hours to resume revenue service late tonight:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N225UA

DreamDriver wrote:

MLIAA wrote:

Anyone know the philosophy on why UA is going with the PW1000G on the 321neos instead of the LEAP? It seems like the LEAP would have more commonality with the MAX fleet.

Interesting article from a year ago, kind of a fluff piece but still indicates the future of GTF technology is adaptable with room to develop.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lorenthomp ... ff5c0745e5

From what I've read they are close, but I think the GTF is slightly more fuel efficient, and a little quieter. Has a cool howl with N1 at around 50% on spool up. But they probably got a good deal and maybe some extras. Talking about a total of maybe 325-350 engines...that is large.

But, isn't the GTF continuing to have a lot of issues?

LAXPolaris wrote:

Does anyone know when 321neo deliveries are expected to start?

Is this timeline right as to when deliveries will start:
A321neo - end of 2023
A321XLR - mid 2024
MAX10 - mid 2024

Any word on potential routes?

Yes:

United expects to introduce the A321XLR into international service in 2024 and said the aircraft would allow it to explore serving additional destinations in Europe from its East Coast hubs in Newark and Washington.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/br ... ic-routes/

They'll replace United's aging Boeing 757-200 fleet, with the carrier expected to deploy these jets on similar routes to the ones that the 757 typically flies. This includes point-to-point service to secondary European markets, like Glasgow and Edinburgh from Newark, as well as some Latin American cities, too.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/united-a3 ... mium-plus/

LAXPolaris wrote:

Does anyone know when 321neo deliveries are expected to start?

Is this timeline right as to when deliveries will start:
A321neo - end of 2023
A321XLR - mid 2024
MAX10 - mid 2024

I doubt UA will have the XLR mid 2024. Maybe first few by end of 2024 at earliest. Remember the plane is late. I would expect summer 2025 to be the first major international push with them.

First couple of A321neos coming late this year and mid 2024 still feasible for the Max10 as UA will be first operator of type so getting deliveries within a couple months of certification.

Polot wrote:

LAXPolaris wrote:

Does anyone know when 321neo deliveries are expected to start?

Is this timeline right as to when deliveries will start:
A321neo - end of 2023
A321XLR - mid 2024
MAX10 - mid 2024

I doubt UA will have the XLR mid 2024. Maybe first few by end of 2024 at earliest. Remember the plane is late. I would expect summer 2025 to be the first major international push with them.

First couple of A321neos coming late this year and mid 2024 still feasible for the Max10 as UA will be first operator of type so getting deliveries within a couple months of certification.

Got it makes sense, thanks for the insight!

LAXPolaris wrote:

Does anyone know when 321neo deliveries are expected to start?

Is this timeline right as to when deliveries will start:
A321neo - end of 2023
A321XLR - mid 2024
MAX10 - mid 2024

Sept 2023 for neo thru 2026. Fall of 2025 thru 2028 for XLR.

Polot wrote:

LAXPolaris wrote:

Does anyone know when 321neo deliveries are expected to start?

Is this timeline right as to when deliveries will start:
A321neo - end of 2023
A321XLR - mid 2024
MAX10 - mid 2024

I doubt UA will have the XLR mid 2024. Maybe first few by end of 2024 at earliest. Remember the plane is late. I would expect summer 2025 to be the first major international push with them.

First couple of A321neos coming late this year and mid 2024 still feasible for the Max10 as UA will be first operator of type so getting deliveries within a couple months of certification.

Wouldn't UA put the A321XLRs on EWR - LAX/SFO first since they are a new aircraft?

Pinto wrote:

Polot wrote:

LAXPolaris wrote:

Does anyone know when 321neo deliveries are expected to start?

Is this timeline right as to when deliveries will start:
A321neo - end of 2023
A321XLR - mid 2024
MAX10 - mid 2024

I doubt UA will have the XLR mid 2024. Maybe first few by end of 2024 at earliest. Remember the plane is late. I would expect summer 2025 to be the first major international push with them.

First couple of A321neos coming late this year and mid 2024 still feasible for the Max10 as UA will be first operator of type so getting deliveries within a couple months of certification.

Wouldn't UA put the A321XLRs on EWR - LAX/SFO first since they are a new aircraft?

That’s what the Max is for.

B6SpiritofEWR wrote:

Pinto wrote:

Polot wrote:

I doubt UA will have the XLR mid 2024. Maybe first few by end of 2024 at earliest. Remember the plane is late. I would expect summer 2025 to be the first major international push with them.

First couple of A321neos coming late this year and mid 2024 still feasible for the Max10 as UA will be first operator of type so getting deliveries within a couple months of certification.

Wouldn't UA put the A321XLRs on EWR - LAX/SFO first since they are a new aircraft?

That’s what the Max is for.

Correct, but each XLR will likely fly domestically first for a given number of hours/cycles before being released to oceanic service.

UAX Update:

Air Wis CR2:
N440AW exited fleet, AA
N444ZW exited fleet, AA
N452AW exited fleet, AA

Skywest CR2:
N903SW exited fleet, withdrawn from use
N905SW exited fleet, withdrawn from use
N863AS (floater) exited fleet, withdrawn from use
N487CA returned to flying
N652BR parked JST
N809CA parked JST
N973SW returned to flying
N709BR (floater) parked TUS

E175:
N80343 ferried OKC
N757YX new delivery, IND induction
N758YX new delivery, IND induction

VC10er wrote:

I asked the following question a few years ago but I don’t recall the answer. Why does United not see a role for the A220 in their fleet?
Without knowing the details, on the surface from a novice like me, she seems so well suited for United on the right routes. Plus, she is a beauty and the passenger experience is awesome.
Thanks

even though the A220 is an Airbus product? It has no commonality with the A320/319 nor the A321, not in systems, cockpit nor parts. they might as well buy E-190's for all the good it would do them. It more of an expense than it would be a benefit.

So I am flying IAH - NRT and just noticed that it is a PW 777 not a GE (thank the lord).

Is UA starting to float the GEs and PWs instead of keeping the GEs running certain routes ie. IAH - NRT?
Also is there much of a performance difference between the 2 engines?

Why would you start out knocking the GE's, then follow it up 2 sentences later ask about basic performance differences between the two?
Perhaps a little research into the products before you knock them would help in your education process.