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TWA302 wrote:Looks like the street fair banner is now gone and finally replaced by something that doesn't scream, "We're just here for a little while."
atrude777 wrote:TWA302 wrote:Looks like the street fair banner is now gone and finally replaced by something that doesn't scream, "We're just here for a little while."
WOW!
That looks so much better now! Not sure if it's the official one because it's missing the Star Alliance Logo?
Otherwise, huge improvement for sure!
Alex
maps4ltd wrote:Does anyone have data on what percentage of Frankfurt passengers are connecting beyond FRA? My parents recently flew to Catania through there and I'm flying through FRA to Bergen this July, both destinations that previously couldn't have been done with one stop. It's obviously a high number, but it'd be interesting to see the exact breakdown, especially since Bayer's got a good chunk of traffic on the STL-FRA market alone.
Jshank83 wrote:TWA302 wrote:Looks like the street fair banner is now gone and finally replaced by something that doesn't scream, "We're just here for a little while."
Good size also. I would love to see some other updates in T2. New digital screens, etc to make it feel a little newer or up to date. But this is a start.
Do you care if I steal this pic to post on twitter? I can credit you.
TWA302 wrote:Looks like the street fair banner is now gone and finally replaced by something that doesn't scream, "We're just here for a little while."
Jshank83 wrote:Commision meeting notes:
Parking prices going up. First increase in 10 years.
No change to short term in the terminal garage (less than 4 hours)
A new lot coming. Lot F. Will be near T2 cell lot. 350 spots.
T2 - $26 (+$3)
E - Sounds like $25
No other prices were listed.
The topic ended up going down a road I didn't expect. One commissioner was not happy with the Post D article that came out about no longer supplying extra info to the newspaper. She kind of lit into Rhonda a bit but I think things got somewhat smoothed over. They also got into a discussion about wanting to start committees to be more involved with things like this before they are asked to vote on them. The topic ended up getting tabled by the commissioners. They wanted more time to look into the parking numbers. I have noticed over the last year or so the commissioners been more vocal about wanting more say in things instead of just basically rubber stamping votes. I think we will see some changes in the way things work in the future.
Kingside diner opens May 10th
Checkpoint in April down 2.8% from 2019
Expect a strong summer
T2 garage completed in June
Curbside baggage for Southwest moving to the west end. Hope it helps with people stopping early and getting them to move further down.
Codasco wrote:Jshank83 wrote:Commision meeting notes:
Parking prices going up. First increase in 10 years.
No change to short term in the terminal garage (less than 4 hours)
A new lot coming. Lot F. Will be near T2 cell lot. 350 spots.
T2 - $26 (+$3)
E - Sounds like $25
No other prices were listed.
The topic ended up going down a road I didn't expect. One commissioner was not happy with the Post D article that came out about no longer supplying extra info to the newspaper. She kind of lit into Rhonda a bit but I think things got somewhat smoothed over. They also got into a discussion about wanting to start committees to be more involved with things like this before they are asked to vote on them. The topic ended up getting tabled by the commissioners. They wanted more time to look into the parking numbers. I have noticed over the last year or so the commissioners been more vocal about wanting more say in things instead of just basically rubber stamping votes. I think we will see some changes in the way things work in the future.
Kingside diner opens May 10th
Checkpoint in April down 2.8% from 2019
Expect a strong summer
T2 garage completed in June
Curbside baggage for Southwest moving to the west end. Hope it helps with people stopping early and getting them to move further down.
At first my reaction that the moving of curbside was odd. It's now on the opposite side of everything else Southwest. But now that you mention it, each time I fly from T2 the traffic seems worse with a cluster right in front of curbside. Last time it was so bad I got let out at the bottom of the ramp and walked up.
phatfarmlines wrote:Branded check-in desks, much less from a foreign flag carrier, are quite rare in the CUTE era.
dcaproducer wrote:Jshank83 do you know if G4 is taking all of the gates at BLV or will the airport hold onto one? I’m not super familiar with whether any of them are “city gates “
The new gate areas in your photos look like a vast improvement.
Jshank83 wrote:dcaproducer wrote:Jshank83 do you know if G4 is taking all of the gates at BLV or will the airport hold onto one? I’m not super familiar with whether any of them are “city gates “
The new gate areas in your photos look like a vast improvement.
I am not sure how gates work there. They might all be city gates but Allegiant is the only one using them. I can ask.
maps4ltd wrote:Just noticed how the average gauge has shifted on some AA flights to some pretty high-profile destinations. It's weird to see a CRJ-700 doing a DFW turn when that same aircraft is doing the same intra-Texas routes that the E140s used to. And it's the first time I can remember seeing Eagle going to PHX (one of the turns is a 175).
Jshank83 wrote:maps4ltd wrote:Just noticed how the average gauge has shifted on some AA flights to some pretty high-profile destinations. It's weird to see a CRJ-700 doing a DFW turn when that same aircraft is doing the same intra-Texas routes that the E140s used to. And it's the first time I can remember seeing Eagle going to PHX (one of the turns is a 175).
The PHX flight was a late add. They had put it down to once a day then a few months ago added the frequency back with a 175. DFW might have been the same thing. Closer in add.
pmanni1 wrote:I wonder why more people choose Delta to LGA (82.46%) than WN (45.95%) or AA (35.23%).
pmanni1 wrote:I wonder why more people choose Delta to LGA (82.46%) than WN (45.95%) or AA (35.23%).
dcaproducer wrote:I know WN's SJU flight is only once a week, but that route would do well a few days a week.
Jshank83 wrote:dcaproducer wrote:I know WN's SJU flight is only once a week, but that route would do well a few days a week.
I thought we might see it moved to 2x a week this year. But they still are shying away from longer routes a bit at the moment.
TWA302 wrote:Jshank83 wrote:dcaproducer wrote:I know WN's SJU flight is only once a week, but that route would do well a few days a week.
I thought we might see it moved to 2x a week this year. But they still are shying away from longer routes a bit at the moment.
BWI, MDW, FLL, HOU, BNA, MCO, STL, and TPA are the only directs to SJU. I think we are doing well and might see more frequency come late winter. Easy in and out for non-passport holders.
Codasco wrote:According to KTVI, the FAA has approved STL's master plan for the new terminal:
https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/faa-a ... ster-plan/
Jshank83 wrote:Codasco wrote:According to KTVI, the FAA has approved STL's master plan for the new terminal:
https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/faa-a ... ster-plan/
The more interesting thing at this point to me is the Boeing part of it.
https://www.flystl.com/about-us/stl-air ... sting-info
St. Louis International Airport (STL) is partnering with Boeing and the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) to prepare an environmental evaluation pursuant to the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) for the proposed expansion to the airport facilities to support defense-related aircraft assembly and flight testing.
The project will be located in the northeast area of St. Louis Lambert International Airport. Boeing would lease two parcels (see Figure 1).
Northern Tract (approximately 75 acres)
Brownleigh (approximately 110 acres)
Phase 1: Construction of an assembly building and flight ramp (approximate time frame)
Brownleigh Parcel
880,000 square feet assembly building
Northern Tract Parcel
185,000 square feet hanger building
80,000 square feet radar cross section test facility
Open aircraft shelters, hush house, maintenance building, fuel calibration building and fire house totaling 90,000 square feet
Several small support/storage structures
Phase 2: Construction of new structures/additions (to be determined based on future needs)
Brownleigh Parcel
660,000 square feet assembly building
Northern Tract Parcel
200,000 square feet paint hanger
150,000 square feet hanger addition
Additional open-air aircraft shelters, hush house and fuel calibration building totaling 60,000 square feet
bretonrlong wrote:Any thoughts on WN service to SJD in the future? I noticed they added MCI seasonally recently and I believe if I am not mistaken Viva provided service a few years back for Apple.
Cubsrule wrote:I was through STL this week after a long break from my nearly weekly trips last summer. The work on 12R/30L and associated taxiways seems to have slowed almost to a halt. What's going on?
BTW, the LH ticket counter signage does look nice.
Jshank83 wrote:April Numbers are out for STL
Passengers
up 6.8% over APR2022
up 13.6% YTD vs 2022
down 10.5% vs APR2019
down 10.5% YTD vs 2019
Last 12 months passengers 14,185,045
https://www.flystl.com/uploads/document ... rt-Apr.pdf
Codasco wrote:Jshank83 wrote:April Numbers are out for STL
Passengers
up 6.8% over APR2022
up 13.6% YTD vs 2022
down 10.5% vs APR2019
down 10.5% YTD vs 2019
Last 12 months passengers 14,185,045
https://www.flystl.com/uploads/document ... rt-Apr.pdf
Just out of curiosity, do you know how our recovery compared to 2019 compares to other similar markets? I thought we were closer to 2019 than -10.5%.
Jshank83 wrote:Codasco wrote:Jshank83 wrote:April Numbers are out for STL
Passengers
up 6.8% over APR2022
up 13.6% YTD vs 2022
down 10.5% vs APR2019
down 10.5% YTD vs 2019
Last 12 months passengers 14,185,045
https://www.flystl.com/uploads/document ... rt-Apr.pdf
Just out of curiosity, do you know how our recovery compared to 2019 compares to other similar markets? I thought we were closer to 2019 than -10.5%.
April to me was a bit of a step back. Every month had been making gains year over year until April for some reason.
We have had months closer than that, just not overall on the year. March was 8.7% from 2019. That might have been the first month within single digits.
I think there are some charts out there on recovery. I think we are somewhere in the middle third or so. If flights hold the back half of the year we should have some months higher than 2019.
strangeplanes wrote:Jshank83 wrote:Codasco wrote:
Just out of curiosity, do you know how our recovery compared to 2019 compares to other similar markets? I thought we were closer to 2019 than -10.5%.
April to me was a bit of a step back. Every month had been making gains year over year until April for some reason.
We have had months closer than that, just not overall on the year. March was 8.7% from 2019. That might have been the first month within single digits.
I think there are some charts out there on recovery. I think we are somewhere in the middle third or so. If flights hold the back half of the year we should have some months higher than 2019.
Does St. Louis show a break down of passengers by airline? If growth was only 6.8% in passengers flow what was the YOY increase in seats offered?
strangeplanes wrote:strangeplanes wrote:Jshank83 wrote:
April to me was a bit of a step back. Every month had been making gains year over year until April for some reason.
We have had months closer than that, just not overall on the year. March was 8.7% from 2019. That might have been the first month within single digits.
I think there are some charts out there on recovery. I think we are somewhere in the middle third or so. If flights hold the back half of the year we should have some months higher than 2019.
Does St. Louis show a break down of passengers by airline? If growth was only 6.8% in passengers flow what was the YOY increase in seats offered?
This gets a bit more confusing to me. STL’s March/April numbers significantly trail other Southwest midcon hubs of MDA,BNA, Den.
KCI also ~2.5x better but they had lagged through the pandemic. STL maybe closer to Pitt performance of cities I looked at. IND actually down for their last reported month. Is there a way to see how each airline has done at STL?
