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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:20 am

Obzerva wrote:
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Has anyone told their PR department yet? haven't seen the good news story yet involving the words:
Qantas
Rescue
Stranded Australians

ChatGPT could write the story for the news sites in literal seconds....

I’m certain the stranded passengers would appreciate the upgrade


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Not disputing that, they definitely would. It was more about Qantas milking an unfortunate situation for PR.

Missed opportunity ;)


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:54 am

LA800 SYD-AKL heading back to SYD after getting to AKL and circling several times. Must have a lot of extra fuel. D7 did the same and now Just landed at AKL. incredible weather over here atm.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:08 am

NOTAM shows AKL is now shut for arrivals until midnight:

B0936/23 FROM: 14 FEB 2023 04:30 TO: 14 FEB 2023 10:59
RWY 05R/23L CLSD TO SKED PASSENGER ARRIVING FLIGHTS

in addition, taxiways D, D3 and D4 are closed due due to aircraft having to park on them...


Crazy aye.

NZ124 MEL-AKL ZK-OKN 77W
NZ104 SYD-AKL ZK-OKS 77W
NZ188 OOL-AKL ZK-NHB 32N
CI51 BNE-AKL B-18910 359

All turned back to Australia.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:11 am

Not sure if this has already been discussed, Qantas are asking FA's who took VR or resigned during COVID to consider re-joining QF. Will be interesting to see what the take-up rate is....

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australi ... ba7457c000
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:18 am

ZK-NBT wrote:
NOTAM shows AKL is now shut for arrivals until midnight:

B0936/23 FROM: 14 FEB 2023 04:30 TO: 14 FEB 2023 10:59
RWY 05R/23L CLSD TO SKED PASSENGER ARRIVING FLIGHTS

in addition, taxiways D, D3 and D4 are closed due due to aircraft having to park on them...


Crazy aye.

NZ124 MEL-AKL ZK-OKN 77W
NZ104 SYD-AKL ZK-OKS 77W
NZ188 OOL-AKL ZK-NHB 32N
CI51 BNE-AKL B-18910 359

All turned back to Australia.


NZ188 is diverting to WLG
NZ102 SYD-AKL diverting to CHC

Another diversion unrelated
QF184 NLK-BNE is heading for SYD
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:29 am

melpax wrote:
Not sure if this has already been discussed, Qantas are asking FA's who took VR or resigned during COVID to consider re-joining QF. Will be interesting to see what the take-up rate is....

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australi ... ba7457c000

I’m certain hadn’t the states and territories kept on moving their goal posts the airlines would’ve had a clearer picture on the recovery timeframe.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:33 am

qf789 wrote:
ZK-NBT wrote:
NOTAM shows AKL is now shut for arrivals until midnight:

B0936/23 FROM: 14 FEB 2023 04:30 TO: 14 FEB 2023 10:59
RWY 05R/23L CLSD TO SKED PASSENGER ARRIVING FLIGHTS

in addition, taxiways D, D3 and D4 are closed due due to aircraft having to park on them...


Crazy aye.

NZ124 MEL-AKL ZK-OKN 77W
NZ104 SYD-AKL ZK-OKS 77W
NZ188 OOL-AKL ZK-NHB 32N
CI51 BNE-AKL B-18910 359

All turned back to Australia.


NZ188 is diverting to WLG
NZ102 SYD-AKL diverting to CHC

Another diversion unrelated
QF184 NLK-BNE is heading for SYD


Storms at BNE also affecting ops
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:06 am

Grass fire at Bulla, only 5kms from MEL. Might have the potential to affect ops if not controlled soon...

https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 5ckh8.html
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:08 am

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After what appears to be a test flight on Sunday, it looks like ex VA 777 VH-VPD has departed BNE and might be on her way to her new home according to FR24?


And has diverted for Darwin when just south of Fitzroy Crossing. Something's up? Mechanical maybe?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:26 am

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Looking at Airport Gateway, the improvement in road access is from the western suburbs via WestConnex, CBD traffic will still be funneled through Southern Cross Drive. There will be little to no improvement in travelling time from the CBD to any of the terminals, certainly not to T1.


While I don't disagree, I suspect some in the Western part of the city and certainly Pyrmont, might find it quicker to go over the Anzac Bridge, into the (yet to be opened) Rozelle Interchange, and then through the connection and gateway.

Same for those from the north of Sydney once the WHT opens.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:02 am

Rex have signed on for two more 737s, to be leased from SQ.
These are due to arrive in June and July.

https://www.theage.com.au/business/comp ... 5ck4s.html

Worth mentioning that Bonza operated its first regularly scheduled service today - VH-UIK flew to MKY and back this afternoon.
PPP, TSV and AVV will also see flights beginning this month.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:02 am

HA445 HNL-AKL is diverting to SYD
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:21 am

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HA445 HNL-AKL is diverting to SYD


I wonder why it couldn't divert to other ports in New Zealand? Latam's SYD-AKL did the same the other day. It circled above AKL and decided to return all the way back to SYD rather than diverting to CHC or WLG.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:25 am

xiaotung wrote:
qf789 wrote:
HA445 HNL-AKL is diverting to SYD


I wonder why it couldn't divert to other ports in New Zealand? Latam's SYD-AKL did the same the other day. It circled above AKL and decided to return all the way back to SYD rather than diverting to CHC or WLG.


I’d say SYD is an existing port for HA and LA and should have existing support on hand. Whilst pax might be stuck on the plane if they were to divert to CHC for example.

Also uncertainty when AKL would reopen probably paid a part too.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:00 am

tsurumaru wrote:
Rex have signed on for two more 737s, to be leased from SQ.
These are due to arrive in June and July.

https://www.theage.com.au/business/comp ... 5ck4s.html

Worth mentioning that Bonza operated its first regularly scheduled service today - VH-UIK flew to MKY and back this afternoon.
PPP, TSV and AVV will also see flights beginning this month.


Don’t quote me but I believe these 2 frames are 9V-MGA and B, really surprised that VA didn’t grab these for fleet commonality.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:16 pm

QF744ER wrote:
tsurumaru wrote:
Rex have signed on for two more 737s, to be leased from SQ.
These are due to arrive in June and July.

https://www.theage.com.au/business/comp ... 5ck4s.html

Worth mentioning that Bonza operated its first regularly scheduled service today - VH-UIK flew to MKY and back this afternoon.
PPP, TSV and AVV will also see flights beginning this month.


Don’t quote me but I believe these 2 frames are 9V-MGA and B, really surprised that VA didn’t grab these for fleet commonality.


Seems the aircraft in question are also leased from the lessor by SQ. So technically if MGA and MGB go over to ZL, it'll be a 'sub-lease'
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:50 pm

EK413 wrote:
EK413 wrote:
Heard on the grape vine AKL could receive their 1st scheduled QF whale 15th February due to the disruptions and backlog of passengers ;)


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QF143/QF146 15FEB has been upgraded to an A380…


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It's very fortunate that Qantas has some slack in the A380 fleet to accommodate this substitute.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:50 pm

The Rumour File on 3AW this suggested announced that Jetstar has advised customers that it will cease flying to Vietnam (SGN) from late May. Not sure if this is just MEL-SGN or SYD also.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:33 pm

Guess its one less JQ 787 port to leave people stranded in
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:43 pm

With all the competition on the route its no surprise JQ calls quits.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:56 pm

Lets see - i have a MEL-SGN booking for august, nothing yet, flights still on sale...
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:14 pm

Morning coffee thoughts...

Interesting airline is JQ. Are they a LCC or have they morphed into a wannabe full service airline? Without the service.

I flew an A330 on one of JQ's inaugural SYD-HKT and flew the same route more recently on a 788. I may have aged ~15 years in that time but apparently so has the average passenger - less bogan express and more regular people saving a buck.

We will soon have secondary airports in our two largest cities. I wonder if JQ shouldn't regress a little and try and dominate those ports, like the Euro LCCs do out of their secondary airports. Or perhaps one of the airlines lower down the scale will have a go at "Aussie Ryanair".

Or I'm stating the obvious and Bonza is already there, with a SWZ base in the planning and Bali flights on their wish list. Crazy to ignore such a large catchment that can bogan with the best of them.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:11 pm

kriskim wrote:
xiaotung wrote:
qf789 wrote:
HA445 HNL-AKL is diverting to SYD


I wonder why it couldn't divert to other ports in New Zealand? Latam's SYD-AKL did the same the other day. It circled above AKL and decided to return all the way back to SYD rather than diverting to CHC or WLG.


I’d say SYD is an existing port for HA and LA and should have existing support on hand. Whilst pax might be stuck on the plane if they were to divert to CHC for example.

Also uncertainty when AKL would reopen probably paid a part too.


Was discussed a bit in the NZ forum, and I mentioned (as you do) that it is most likely due to SYD being an existing port for HA and WLG or CHC having no staff there to deal with hotel accommodation etc for the passengers
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:42 pm

QF143 being operated by an A388 today, bit of an up-gauge from the B738 ... guessing to pickup a heap of stranded pax.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/qf143
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:43 pm

Thatcher wrote:
Morning coffee thoughts...

Interesting airline is JQ. Are they a LCC or have they morphed into a wannabe full service airline? Without the service.

I flew an A330 on one of JQ's inaugural SYD-HKT and flew the same route more recently on a 788. I may have aged ~15 years in that time but apparently so has the average passenger - less bogan express and more regular people saving a buck.

We will soon have secondary airports in our two largest cities. I wonder if JQ shouldn't regress a little and try and dominate those ports, like the Euro LCCs do out of their secondary airports. Or perhaps one of the airlines lower down the scale will have a go at "Aussie Ryanair".

Or I'm stating the obvious and Bonza is already there, with a SWZ base in the planning and Bali flights on their wish list. Crazy to ignore such a large catchment that can bogan with the best of them.


Based on some recent European flying and previous US flying in the mid 2010s, JQ is more or less equivalent to what are considered full service carriers in those areas. JQ and AY have very similar service patterns for short haul flights, with my SYD-TSV and ALC-HEL sectors being more or less the same from an on board perspective (and baggage too, where AY charges extra for bags). Bonza is the true LCC option in all of this, they're following all the standard LCC steps at the moment, lets see how they go.

So, JQ might just be the reality of air service and given average Aussies are going to fly JQ before QF, QF might indeed be the anachronism.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:18 am

My last few flights on QF QF Link I've noticed they've been offering up free wine and beer no matter what time of day ( well all flights were in the early to late arvo ). These flights have been BNE, - NTL BNE - TSV, TSV - ISA, BNE - ISA. Does anyone know if this is the norm now going forward? They mentioned in January that it was for festive cheer but it happened this month as well.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:29 am

NZ516 wrote:
EK413 wrote:
EK413 wrote:
Heard on the grape vine AKL could receive their 1st scheduled QF whale 15th February due to the disruptions and backlog of passengers ;)


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QF143/QF146 15FEB has been upgraded to an A380…

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It's very fortunate that Qantas has some slack in the A380 fleet to accommodate this substitute.


OQJ on its way now. Is this a normal spare few hours in the fleet plan? Or have things been jigged around a bit?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:36 am

qf2220 wrote:
NZ516 wrote:
EK413 wrote:
QF143/QF146 15FEB has been upgraded to an A380…

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It's very fortunate that Qantas has some slack in the A380 fleet to accommodate this substitute.


OQJ on its way now. Is this a normal spare few hours in the fleet plan? Or have things been jigged around a bit?


I don't think it's 'normal' exactly but there have been a couple of A380s parked in SYD for a few days each which would at least be fortuitous.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:11 am

qf2220 wrote:
Thatcher wrote:
Morning coffee thoughts...

Interesting airline is JQ. Are they a LCC or have they morphed into a wannabe full service airline? Without the service.

I flew an A330 on one of JQ's inaugural SYD-HKT and flew the same route more recently on a 788. I may have aged ~15 years in that time but apparently so has the average passenger - less bogan express and more regular people saving a buck.

We will soon have secondary airports in our two largest cities. I wonder if JQ shouldn't regress a little and try and dominate those ports, like the Euro LCCs do out of their secondary airports. Or perhaps one of the airlines lower down the scale will have a go at "Aussie Ryanair".

Or I'm stating the obvious and Bonza is already there, with a SWZ base in the planning and Bali flights on their wish list. Crazy to ignore such a large catchment that can bogan with the best of them.


Based on some recent European flying and previous US flying in the mid 2010s, JQ is more or less equivalent to what are considered full service carriers in those areas. JQ and AY have very similar service patterns for short haul flights, with my SYD-TSV and ALC-HEL sectors being more or less the same from an on board perspective (and baggage too, where AY charges extra for bags). Bonza is the true LCC option in all of this, they're following all the standard LCC steps at the moment, lets see how they go.

So, JQ might just be the reality of air service and given average Aussies are going to fly JQ before QF, QF might indeed be the anachronism.

Yes, it is a spectrum.

QF are a long way out for a domestic carrier anywhere in the world with a fully bundled offering. There aren't many other domestic airlines offering a similar package these days, maybe Turkish?

VA are very typical with what you would find in the US etc with an unbundled offering in Y but a proper domestic J (F in US). When they first went down this path, they were largely copying what JetBlue had pioneered in US which, for cost purposes, has largely been copied by the US3.

JQ would be next with a wholly unbundled offering and no J class though there is the ability to add stuff even to the point of earning FF points.

AB is your almost ULCC like Ryanair in EU and Spirit in US. Fully unbundled, flying out of secondary airports etc where possible.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:32 am

Qantas has pushed back resumption of MEL-HKG, now due to resume on 20 June 23

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... tid=uc01c0
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:57 am

Old news considering the changes have been in the GDS for a few weeks now. DRW-SIN has also been canned.

Qantas has again delayed the resumption of flights between Melbourne and Hong Kong, citing ongoing labour shortage...

Executive Traveller is up there with simpleflying in terms of trash aviation news. You would infer from that line that a QF spokesperson provided them with that "exclusive" regarding the delay, but no. They've jumped to that conclusion based on a HK Free Press article that does not quote any QF spokesperson..
 
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Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:02 am

DeltaB717 wrote:
qf2220 wrote:
NZ516 wrote:

It's very fortunate that Qantas has some slack in the A380 fleet to accommodate this substitute.


OQJ on its way now. Is this a normal spare few hours in the fleet plan? Or have things been jigged around a bit?


I don't think it's 'normal' exactly but there have been a couple of A380s parked in SYD for a few days each which would at least be fortuitous.


OQJ is approximately 25 mins out from AKL.

Another upgrade for tomorrows QF151/QF156 MEL-AKL-MEL operated by an A332 opposed to the regular B738.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:11 am

getluv wrote:
Old news considering the changes have been in the GDS for a few weeks now. DRW-SIN has also been canned.

Qantas has again delayed the resumption of flights between Melbourne and Hong Kong, citing ongoing labour shortage...

Executive Traveller is up there with simpleflying in terms of trash aviation news. You would infer from that line that a QF spokesperson provided them with that "exclusive" regarding the delay, but no. They've jumped to that conclusion based on a HK Free Press article that does not quote any QF spokesperson..


ET is trash in general. I acknowledge that they sometimes have some useful information, but usually just take what has already been written somewhere else, rewrite it in a breathless tabloid style, and make sure to stuff “the pointy end” into any article at least five times.

When you say DRW-SIN has been canned, is that SQ or the proposed QantasLink flight? Apologies if I’ve missed something that was discussed previously.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:22 am

RyanairGuru wrote:
getluv wrote:
Old news considering the changes have been in the GDS for a few weeks now. DRW-SIN has also been canned.

Qantas has again delayed the resumption of flights between Melbourne and Hong Kong, citing ongoing labour shortage...

Executive Traveller is up there with simpleflying in terms of trash aviation news. You would infer from that line that a QF spokesperson provided them with that "exclusive" regarding the delay, but no. They've jumped to that conclusion based on a HK Free Press article that does not quote any QF spokesperson..


ET is trash in general. I acknowledge that they sometimes have some useful information, but usually just take what has already been written somewhere else, rewrite it in a breathless tabloid style, and make sure to stuff “the pointy end” into any article at least five times.

When you say DRW-SIN has been canned, is that SQ or the proposed QantasLink flight? Apologies if I’ve missed something that was discussed previously.


Qlink, wouldnt be surprised if forward booking were pretty poor. Hard to compete against SQ on that route.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:27 am

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When you say DRW-SIN has been canned, is that SQ or the proposed QantasLink flight? Apologies if I’ve missed something that was discussed previously.


It seems it was the proposed QFLink/Alliance flight between DRW and SIN that was pulled. No longer found/showing in the GDS.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:33 am

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OQJ on its way now. Is this a normal spare few hours in the fleet plan? Or have things been jigged around a bit?


There is some short term slack in the fleet now that they're up to six active aircraft. The current schedule only requires five aircraft, but they have been utilising the sixth for some training flights. The schedule requirement will increase to six in March when SYD-HKG goes to A380.

Even then, there is some daytime slack with one of the five spending about 9 hours on the ground in SYD each day, although that would be a tight squeeze on an SYD-AKL-SYD turn.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:35 am

Thatcher wrote:
Morning coffee thoughts...

Interesting airline is JQ. Are they a LCC or have they morphed into a wannabe full service airline? Without the service.

I flew an A330 on one of JQ's inaugural SYD-HKT and flew the same route more recently on a 788. I may have aged ~15 years in that time but apparently so has the average passenger - less bogan express and more regular people saving a buck.

We will soon have secondary airports in our two largest cities. I wonder if JQ shouldn't regress a little and try and dominate those ports, like the Euro LCCs do out of their secondary airports. Or perhaps one of the airlines lower down the scale will have a go at "Aussie Ryanair".

Or I'm stating the obvious and Bonza is already there, with a SWZ base in the planning and Bali flights on their wish list. Crazy to ignore such a large catchment that can bogan with the best of them.


The number one thing Jetstar need to work on is there customer service when things go wrong. If everything is going well then their service is actually very good. I cannot fault their onboard service, the crew are always polite and friendly and I think their onboard menu is better than VA’s menu. Their staff in Manila call centre are unfailingly polite and friendly, and are generally very helpful where they can be. The problem is that they don’t have the authority to handle situations when things go wrong. The same also applies to their airport staff (although they’re contractors from Swissport etc.) who can’t do much of anything when there are delays or cancellations. This is what gives Jetstar a bad name more than anything else.

The other thing they need to do is consider their approach to maintenance. To be clear, I have no doubt whatsoever that they comply with all CASA requirements, and I’m categorically not suggesting they are unsafe. That said, they fly their fleet hard, and they need to be focussing on preventative maintenance to keep that up. There is only so much you can defer or MEL before aircraft need to be taken out of service, and then their entire operation falls over. I flew them twice last month and on both times we were delayed while engineering staff shuffled paper work in relation to technical faults that they didn’t fix. It’s great that they keep things moving on the short term, as the delays were only about 30 minutes, but these deferred items start snowballing until they can’t defer any more, then you have major delays or cancellations as they don’t have the slack to absorb this.

Back when Continental and United merged, they had major issues for a while with the reliability of their A319/A320 fleet. Continental had higher fleet utilisation than United pre-merger, and Continental had therefore invested in a preventative maintenance regime to get in front of issues before they arose. Pre-merger United maintained their aircraft in line with everything required by the FAA, but didn’t go much beyond that as they didn’t need to, they had the slack in the fleet to fix issues as they arose. Post-merger, United tried to fly the ex-United aircraft at the same utilisation as the ex-Continental aircraft, and the operation fell apart because they didn’t have those processes in place for the Airbus fleet. Once they realised that was the issue, and brought the maintenance on the Airbus fleet into line with the 737 fleet, the issues went away and dispatch reliability of both types is roughly the same for United. The point is that you can’t run a reliable airline on an oily rag.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:43 am

Bonza has taken delivery of its next 737MAX, VH-UKH

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https://twitter.com/kpae_spotter/status ... f49-woCdfw
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:51 am

RyanairGuru wrote:
getluv wrote:
Old news considering the changes have been in the GDS for a few weeks now. DRW-SIN has also been canned.

Qantas has again delayed the resumption of flights between Melbourne and Hong Kong, citing ongoing labour shortage...

Executive Traveller is up there with simpleflying in terms of trash aviation news. You would infer from that line that a QF spokesperson provided them with that "exclusive" regarding the delay, but no. They've jumped to that conclusion based on a HK Free Press article that does not quote any QF spokesperson..


ET is trash in general. I acknowledge that they sometimes have some useful information, but usually just take what has already been written somewhere else, rewrite it in a breathless tabloid style, and make sure to stuff “the pointy end” into any article at least five times.

When you say DRW-SIN has been canned, is that SQ or the proposed QantasLink flight? Apologies if I’ve missed something that was discussed previously.


It was a proposed QFLink flight that was uploaded into the GDS in early December but it was never bookable. link
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:56 am

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Qlink, wouldnt be surprised if forward booking were pretty poor. Hard to compete against SQ on that route.


It was never formally bookable or announced.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 3:07 am

Virgin has signed a 10 year lease agreement for an upgraded cargo facility at LST, once the facility is upgraded its expected Virgin will fly around 50 tonnes of freight out of LST each year

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... um=twitter
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:04 am

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Virgin has signed a 10 year lease agreement for an upgraded cargo facility at LST, once the facility is upgraded its expected Virgin will fly around 50 tonnes of freight out of LST each year

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... um=twitter


I sure hope that's meant to be 50 tonnes a week and not a year. I could handle 50 tonnes a year out of my garage.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:07 am

RyanairGuru wrote:
ET is trash in general. I acknowledge that they sometimes have some useful information, but usually just take what has already been written somewhere else, rewrite it in a breathless tabloid style, and make sure to stuff “the pointy end” into any article at least five times.


:lol: Am glad I am not the only one who thinks this! Some of their overused and often repeated terms are seriously cringeworthy.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:13 am

Looks like the A350-900 might have won the Qantas A330-200 + A330-300 replacement competition from this article

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-a ... 2fa721bd1d
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:23 am

aschachter wrote:
Looks like the A350-900 might have won the Qantas A330-200 + A330-300 replacement competition from this article

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-a ... 2fa721bd1d


As has been said in the other thread this was posted in, this reads more as a poorly written article than an announcement of the A330 replacement outcome.

It would also be quite inappropriate for a News article to be the vehicle by which such an announcement would be made given Qantas's reporting requirements re. the ASX and Corporations legislation.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:30 am

RyanairGuru wrote:
The number one thing Jetstar need to work on is there customer service when things go wrong. If everything is going well then their service is actually very good. I cannot fault their onboard service, the crew are always polite and friendly and I think their onboard menu is better than VA’s menu. Their staff in Manila call centre are unfailingly polite and friendly, and are generally very helpful where they can be. The problem is that they don’t have the authority to handle situations when things go wrong. The same also applies to their airport staff (although they’re contractors from Swissport etc.) who can’t do much of anything when there are delays or cancellations. This is what gives Jetstar a bad name more than anything else.

The other thing they need to do is consider their approach to maintenance. To be clear, I have no doubt whatsoever that they comply with all CASA requirements, and I’m categorically not suggesting they are unsafe. That said, they fly their fleet hard, and they need to be focussing on preventative maintenance to keep that up. There is only so much you can defer or MEL before aircraft need to be taken out of service, and then their entire operation falls over. I flew them twice last month and on both times we were delayed while engineering staff shuffled paper work in relation to technical faults that they didn’t fix. It’s great that they keep things moving on the short term, as the delays were only about 30 minutes, but these deferred items start snowballing until they can’t defer any more, then you have major delays or cancellations as they don’t have the slack to absorb this.

Back when Continental and United merged, they had major issues for a while with the reliability of their A319/A320 fleet. Continental had higher fleet utilisation than United pre-merger, and Continental had therefore invested in a preventative maintenance regime to get in front of issues before they arose. Pre-merger United maintained their aircraft in line with everything required by the FAA, but didn’t go much beyond that as they didn’t need to, they had the slack in the fleet to fix issues as they arose. Post-merger, United tried to fly the ex-United aircraft at the same utilisation as the ex-Continental aircraft, and the operation fell apart because they didn’t have those processes in place for the Airbus fleet. Once they realised that was the issue, and brought the maintenance on the Airbus fleet into line with the 737 fleet, the issues went away and dispatch reliability of both types is roughly the same for United. The point is that you can’t run a reliable airline on an oily rag.


I wouldn't frame the issue as such since someone with a predetermined view on Jetstar may view this as suggestion of substandard maintenance, which is simply not the case. I would also take umbrage with the talk of preventative maintenance since I'd argue that it's not really a thing in aircraft maintenance. All aircraft have regular service intervals based on various parameters including flight hours, cycles, days, etc for line maintenance (A checks, ST checks (B787 doesn't have a B check), C and D checks, etc). I have no doubt Jetstar complies with these. However, no rational airline would do any more than this. The question can be asked though if Jetstar leave enough time in the schedule to do these checks and if they do not, it's likely causing delays. Additionally, their maintenance capacity is limited, and the major issues they have had with some aircraft (e.g. VH-VKL's lightening strike) may have had the effect of sucking in maintenance resources while also being an aircraft short for some time (it can be a double hit).

In respect of the MEL, the MEL has limits and has to be approved by CASA. MEL's have categories with fixed time frames to be fixed within (see the CASA advisory CAAP 37-01v5.1). They can't just fly around with MELs indefinitely, and even then MEL items can preclude or limit operations on certain routes or at certain times. The purpose of MELs are ultimately to allow for things to be fixed during regularly scheduled maintenance, to keep aircraft flying while awaiting parts, or at a very basic level for the aircraft to return to base where parts, equipment and more resources are available. Knowing CASA's conservative approach I have no doubt that they would ping Jetstar severely if they were exploiting the MEL process and procedure to avoid and/or delay maintenance.

So I doubt that they are short changing on maintenance, however they are likely pushing the fleet too hard and over scheduling it, meaning that the aircraft are perennially being released for service late and thus generating delays. So it's not their approach to maintenance, but possibly their approach to scheduling. Secondarily, simply not having the manpower available to do that maintenance quickly enough. For example, a B787 A check will take about 100 man hours, but could take anywhere between 6 and 18 actual hours depending on how much (and the correct) manpower is applied to it. They may be over scheduling the aircraft relative to their maintenance manpower.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:45 am

DeltaB717 wrote:
aschachter wrote:
Looks like the A350-900 might have won the Qantas A330-200 + A330-300 replacement competition from this article

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-a ... 2fa721bd1d


As has been said in the other thread this was posted in, this reads more as a poorly written article than an announcement of the A330 replacement outcome.

It would also be quite inappropriate for a News article to be the vehicle by which such an announcement would be made given Qantas's reporting requirements re. the ASX and Corporations legislation.



Very poorly written.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:52 am

evanb wrote:
RyanairGuru wrote:
The number one thing Jetstar need to work on is there customer service when things go wrong. If everything is going well then their service is actually very good. I cannot fault their onboard service, the crew are always polite and friendly and I think their onboard menu is better than VA’s menu. Their staff in Manila call centre are unfailingly polite and friendly, and are generally very helpful where they can be. The problem is that they don’t have the authority to handle situations when things go wrong. The same also applies to their airport staff (although they’re contractors from Swissport etc.) who can’t do much of anything when there are delays or cancellations. This is what gives Jetstar a bad name more than anything else.

The other thing they need to do is consider their approach to maintenance. To be clear, I have no doubt whatsoever that they comply with all CASA requirements, and I’m categorically not suggesting they are unsafe. That said, they fly their fleet hard, and they need to be focussing on preventative maintenance to keep that up. There is only so much you can defer or MEL before aircraft need to be taken out of service, and then their entire operation falls over. I flew them twice last month and on both times we were delayed while engineering staff shuffled paper work in relation to technical faults that they didn’t fix. It’s great that they keep things moving on the short term, as the delays were only about 30 minutes, but these deferred items start snowballing until they can’t defer any more, then you have major delays or cancellations as they don’t have the slack to absorb this.

Back when Continental and United merged, they had major issues for a while with the reliability of their A319/A320 fleet. Continental had higher fleet utilisation than United pre-merger, and Continental had therefore invested in a preventative maintenance regime to get in front of issues before they arose. Pre-merger United maintained their aircraft in line with everything required by the FAA, but didn’t go much beyond that as they didn’t need to, they had the slack in the fleet to fix issues as they arose. Post-merger, United tried to fly the ex-United aircraft at the same utilisation as the ex-Continental aircraft, and the operation fell apart because they didn’t have those processes in place for the Airbus fleet. Once they realised that was the issue, and brought the maintenance on the Airbus fleet into line with the 737 fleet, the issues went away and dispatch reliability of both types is roughly the same for United. The point is that you can’t run a reliable airline on an oily rag.


I wouldn't frame the issue as such since someone with a predetermined view on Jetstar may view this as suggestion of substandard maintenance, which is simply not the case. I would also take umbrage with the talk of preventative maintenance since I'd argue that it's not really a thing in aircraft maintenance. All aircraft have regular service intervals based on various parameters including flight hours, cycles, days, etc for line maintenance (A checks, ST checks (B787 doesn't have a B check), C and D checks, etc). I have no doubt Jetstar complies with these. However, no rational airline would do any more than this. The question can be asked though if Jetstar leave enough time in the schedule to do these checks and if they do not, it's likely causing delays. Additionally, their maintenance capacity is limited, and the major issues they have had with some aircraft (e.g. VH-VKL's lightening strike) may have had the effect of sucking in maintenance resources while also being an aircraft short for some time (it can be a double hit).

In respect of the MEL, the MEL has limits and has to be approved by CASA. MEL's have categories with fixed time frames to be fixed within (see the CASA advisory CAAP 37-01v5.1). They can't just fly around with MELs indefinitely, and even then MEL items can preclude or limit operations on certain routes or at certain times. The purpose of MELs are ultimately to allow for things to be fixed during regularly scheduled maintenance, to keep aircraft flying while awaiting parts, or at a very basic level for the aircraft to return to base where parts, equipment and more resources are available. Knowing CASA's conservative approach I have no doubt that they would ping Jetstar severely if they were exploiting the MEL process and procedure to avoid and/or delay maintenance.

So I doubt that they are short changing on maintenance, however they are likely pushing the fleet too hard and over scheduling it, meaning that the aircraft are perennially being released for service late and thus generating delays. So it's not their approach to maintenance, but possibly their approach to scheduling. Secondarily, simply not having the manpower available to do that maintenance quickly enough. For example, a B787 A check will take about 100 man hours, but could take anywhere between 6 and 18 actual hours depending on how much (and the correct) manpower is applied to it. They may be over scheduling the aircraft relative to their maintenance manpower.

Speaking of -VKL the aircraft is enroute MEL-PUS under go wing repaint works. Will be out of action for the next few weeks.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:09 am

aschachter wrote:
Looks like the A350-900 might have won the Qantas A330-200 + A330-300 replacement competition from this article

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-a ... 2fa721bd1d


Some goose has typed 900 instead of 1000.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2023

Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:39 am

new FJ fares to everywhere starting with lowest fares that includes no checked bag. Sign of the times, recession kicking in & they need to have lower fares out there. How much luggage do you need to go to Fiji for a week ?

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