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NWAROOSTER wrote:Joe Sutter engineered and had a prototype built in a little over two years along with the help of more engineers and the like. They basically did this without the use of computers.
It was built from about 1968 until the last one was completed and flown away from Boeitng's Renton airport in late January, 2023.
NWAROOSTER wrote:Joe Sutter engineered and had a prototype built in a little over two years along with the help of more engineers and the like. They basically did this without the use of computers.
It was built from about 1968 until the last one was completed and flown away from Boeitng's Renton airport in late January, 2023.
Great job except for a few early bumps especially with the Pratt & Whitney JT9D-3A power plants.
Hamlet69 wrote:NWAROOSTER wrote:Joe Sutter engineered and had a prototype built in a little over two years along with the help of more engineers and the like. They basically did this without the use of computers.
It was built from about 1968 until the last one was completed and flown away from Boeitng's Renton airport in late January, 2023.
Great job except for a few early bumps especially with the Pratt & Whitney JT9D-3A power plants.
I'll forgive you for mistaking Renton with Everett.![]()
I pointedly try not to post personal info on here, but now that this day has arrived I have to say - my dad was one of those 'Incredibles.' Not an engineer, but a Machinist who helped build the first 747. He can still remember the days of building that first aircraft, as the building itself was literally assembled around them, while they in turn assembled one of the most iconic aircraft ever built. While there was a roof, there were areas of the plant that still did not have walls!As a young man fresh out of the Air Force, fresh to the great Pacific Northwest, it was truly a life-changing opportunity and experience. As I sit here today and think of what this airplane means and represents, it's not Joe Sutter who I think of, as much as a fan of his as I am. Nor is it the John Travolta's of the world. It is the thousands of men and women like my dad. The Incredibles who will never have their names in print, who will never seek nor receive recognition for simply doing a job well done. But who together helped literally change the world. Thank you, Dad, and all the thousands of other Incredibles out there, for this amazing aircraft.
BTW - my father also went on to help build the first 767, and then the first 777. To this day I still ask him what his favorite is, because for 30+ years it has always surprised me, and I always think he'll eventually say the 747. But no. It's the 767!![]()
Hamlet69
Hamlet69 wrote:
I pointedly try not to post personal info on here, but now that this day has arrived I have to say - my dad was one of those 'Incredibles.' Not an engineer, but a Machinist who helped build the first 747. He can still remember the days of building that first aircraft, as the building itself was literally assembled around them, while they in turn assembled one of the most iconic aircraft ever built. While there was a roof, there were areas of the plant that still did not have walls!As a young man fresh out of the Air Force, fresh to the great Pacific Northwest, it was truly a life-changing opportunity and experience. As I sit here today and think of what this airplane means and represents, it's not Joe Sutter who I think of, as much as a fan of his as I am. Nor is it the John Travolta's of the world. It is the thousands of men and women like my dad. The Incredibles who will never have their names in print, who will never seek nor receive recognition for simply doing a job well done. But who together helped literally change the world. Thank you, Dad, and all the thousands of other Incredibles out there, for this amazing aircraft.
BTW - my father also went on to help build the first 767, and then the first 777. To this day I still ask him what his favorite is, because for 30+ years it has always surprised me, and I always think he'll eventually say the 747. But no. It's the 767!![]()
Hamlet69
Hamlet69 wrote:NWAROOSTER wrote:Joe Sutter engineered and had a prototype built in a little over two years along with the help of more engineers and the like. They basically did this without the use of computers.
It was built from about 1968 until the last one was completed and flown away from Boeitng's Renton airport in late January, 2023.
Great job except for a few early bumps especially with the Pratt & Whitney JT9D-3A power plants.
I'll forgive you for mistaking Renton with Everett.![]()
I pointedly try not to post personal info on here, but now that this day has arrived I have to say - my dad was one of those 'Incredibles.' Not an engineer, but a Machinist who helped build the first 747. He can still remember the days of building that first aircraft, as the building itself was literally assembled around them, while they in turn assembled one of the most iconic aircraft ever built. While there was a roof, there were areas of the plant that still did not have walls!As a young man fresh out of the Air Force, fresh to the great Pacific Northwest, it was truly a life-changing opportunity and experience. As I sit here today and think of what this airplane means and represents, it's not Joe Sutter who I think of, as much as a fan of his as I am. Nor is it the John Travolta's of the world. It is the thousands of men and women like my dad. The Incredibles who will never have their names in print, who will never seek nor receive recognition for simply doing a job well done. But who together helped literally change the world. Thank you, Dad, and all the thousands of other Incredibles out there, for this amazing aircraft.
BTW - my father also went on to help build the first 767, and then the first 777. To this day I still ask him what his favorite is, because for 30+ years it has always surprised me, and I always think he'll eventually say the 747. But no. It's the 767!![]()
Hamlet69
Boeing757100 wrote:By the way, does anyone know what time N863GT will depart? Hopefully I can track her on FR24 or flightaware
Ziyulu wrote:Please tell me something that is better for the airlines on a 747 as compared to the boring 777s and 787s. I just cannot believe the time has come so quick. I remember being at NRT and LHR and seeing rows of them.
AV8AJET wrote:Boeing757100 wrote:By the way, does anyone know what time N863GT will depart? Hopefully I can track her on FR24 or flightaware
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI ... /KPAE/KCVG
LAXdenizen wrote:Ziyulu wrote:Please tell me something that is better for the airlines on a 747 as compared to the boring 777s and 787s. I just cannot believe the time has come so quick. I remember being at NRT and LHR and seeing rows of them.
It’s tough to get inspired by rows of twins at the gates. I feel the loss every time I’m at the terminal.
I live near LAX and get plenty of 744, 748, MD-10 & 11 action overhead so I’m fortunate not to have to say goodbye yet.
Metchalus wrote:
LHR is a very different place without BA and VS fleets. Have to admit it was weird seeing them beside 777Ws and A350s, The 747 never looked old fashioned or outdated, it's just that as a jumbo jet it wasn't that much bigger than the other aircraft. It's niche at least as a passenger hauler didn't really exist anymore.
I miss them though. Probably always will.
Long Live The Queen
Ziyulu wrote:Which came first? The 747 or 737?
AllNippon767 wrote:Metchalus wrote:
LHR is a very different place without BA and VS fleets. Have to admit it was weird seeing them beside 777Ws and A350s, The 747 never looked old fashioned or outdated, it's just that as a jumbo jet it wasn't that much bigger than the other aircraft. It's niche at least as a passenger hauler didn't really exist anymore.
I miss them though. Probably always will.
Long Live The Queen
Absolutely.
As an LHR local myself it really hasn't been the same since the BA ones have been gone. I go nuts every time I see the odd rare Silkway 744 with RB211s due in. Hearing that signature whistle of the RRs on the 744 is a sound I've sorely missed but treasure dearly. It says a lot about the 'feel' of spotting too, I've had zero motivation to go and spot at LHR anymore with the jumbos gone but the only thing tempting me to go back is capturing the 747s that I'm happy we still get - the odd cargo birds in every now and then. Last night the JetOneX 744 came in, lower than usual over central London with gear all down and everything .. the sound was absolutely immense with the CF6s screaming. Absolutely nothing else can do that for us at LHR anymore.
Long Live The Queen indeed!
Metchalus wrote:AllNippon767 wrote:Metchalus wrote:
LHR is a very different place without BA and VS fleets. Have to admit it was weird seeing them beside 777Ws and A350s, The 747 never looked old fashioned or outdated, it's just that as a jumbo jet it wasn't that much bigger than the other aircraft. It's niche at least as a passenger hauler didn't really exist anymore.
I miss them though. Probably always will.
Long Live The Queen
Absolutely.
As an LHR local myself it really hasn't been the same since the BA ones have been gone. I go nuts every time I see the odd rare Silkway 744 with RB211s due in. Hearing that signature whistle of the RRs on the 744 is a sound I've sorely missed but treasure dearly. It says a lot about the 'feel' of spotting too, I've had zero motivation to go and spot at LHR anymore with the jumbos gone but the only thing tempting me to go back is capturing the 747s that I'm happy we still get - the odd cargo birds in every now and then. Last night the JetOneX 744 came in, lower than usual over central London with gear all down and everything .. the sound was absolutely immense with the CF6s screaming. Absolutely nothing else can do that for us at LHR anymore.
Long Live The Queen indeed!
I know the feeling plane spotting at LHR is really rather boring. It's not just the 747s, I miss VS A340s, the ocassional Fokker 70.
At least the the A380 will be around for some time yet and the US carriersas well as Icelandair still bring in 757s and 767s and But with no NMA their replacements are probably going to be more dreamliners and 321s. Brilliant aircraft but they make for tedious viewing compared to an all new type.
BA 747s and Myrtle Avenue are made for eachother. The residents probably don't feel the same way but everyone took pictures of them when they came in. 777s and A350s don't get quite the same reaction.
travelspot747 wrote:Some good videos of the take off and fly by are already up.
Take off: https://youtu.be/sdlZvm6w79A
Fly by: https://youtu.be/HibhYYLx83M
Breathe wrote:travelspot747 wrote:Some good videos of the take off and fly by are already up.
Take off: https://youtu.be/sdlZvm6w79A
Fly by: https://youtu.be/HibhYYLx83M
Thanks for sharing these links. The sunset take off was perfect to reflect the sun setting on the production of the 747.
Truly an iconic plane, which thankfully will still be in the skies for decades to come.
Breathe wrote:travelspot747 wrote:Some good videos of the take off and fly by are already up.
Take off: https://youtu.be/sdlZvm6w79A
Fly by: https://youtu.be/HibhYYLx83M
Thanks for sharing these links. The sunset take off was perfect to reflect the sun setting on the production of the 747.
Truly an iconic plane, which thankfully will still be in the skies for decades to come.
JannEejit wrote:Metchalus wrote:AllNippon767 wrote:
Absolutely.
As an LHR local myself it really hasn't been the same since the BA ones have been gone. I go nuts every time I see the odd rare Silkway 744 with RB211s due in. Hearing that signature whistle of the RRs on the 744 is a sound I've sorely missed but treasure dearly. It says a lot about the 'feel' of spotting too, I've had zero motivation to go and spot at LHR anymore with the jumbos gone but the only thing tempting me to go back is capturing the 747s that I'm happy we still get - the odd cargo birds in every now and then. Last night the JetOneX 744 came in, lower than usual over central London with gear all down and everything .. the sound was absolutely immense with the CF6s screaming. Absolutely nothing else can do that for us at LHR anymore.
Long Live The Queen indeed!
I know the feeling plane spotting at LHR is really rather boring. It's not just the 747s, I miss VS A340s, the ocassional Fokker 70.
At least the the A380 will be around for some time yet and the US carriersas well as Icelandair still bring in 757s and 767s and But with no NMA their replacements are probably going to be more dreamliners and 321s. Brilliant aircraft but they make for tedious viewing compared to an all new type.
BA 747s and Myrtle Avenue are made for eachother. The residents probably don't feel the same way but everyone took pictures of them when they came in. 777s and A350s don't get quite the same reaction.
I have to agree, and not just for the lack of 747 activity. Right across the board, the feeling of 'blah' is ever increasing. I watch those LHR and LAX live streams from time to time and I'm constantly amazed at LAX, how many American A321's or Spirit A320's dominate the landscape. Even the Tom Bradley Terminal heavy line up is increasingly 777/787/A350/A380 nowadays, with occasional interruption from the Lufthansa and Korean 747 types. Stick on a retro LAX YouTube clip from the 80's or 90's and it's a whole different world.
ikolkyo wrote:Sad day, such an icon.
AirKevin wrote:Breathe wrote:travelspot747 wrote:Some good videos of the take off and fly by are already up.
Take off: https://youtu.be/sdlZvm6w79A
Fly by: https://youtu.be/HibhYYLx83M
Thanks for sharing these links. The sunset take off was perfect to reflect the sun setting on the production of the 747.
Truly an iconic plane, which thankfully will still be in the skies for decades to come.
Except it was a sunrise. Departure was off of 16R.