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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:25 pm

BDKLEZ wrote:
Guessing the dodgy weather is kicking in at BFS maybe. We currently have multiple EZYs, a Jet2 from LPA in the hold and a poor wee LJ45 from BQH that's been running round the racetrack endlessly. U2839 from LGW has given up and is heading "elsewhere" at this time. There also EZY from LPL, LGW, LTN en route and about to get in the queue.

Yeah looks like a mess. Six U2 flights in various holds (all of which are in the top 10 most tracked worldwide on FR24 now). Also there's an Emerald Airlines UK AT7 in a hold over the Irish Sea for BHD.
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:27 pm

AmricanShamrok wrote:
BDKLEZ wrote:
Guessing the dodgy weather is kicking in at BFS maybe. We currently have multiple EZYs, a Jet2 from LPA in the hold and a poor wee LJ45 from BQH that's been running round the racetrack endlessly. U2839 from LGW has given up and is heading "elsewhere" at this time. There also EZY from LPL, LGW, LTN en route and about to get in the queue.

Yeah looks like a mess. Six U2 flights in various holds (all of which are in the top 10 most tracked worldwide on FR24 now). Also there's an Emerald Airlines UK AT7 in a hold over the Irish Sea for BHD.


Looks like some have returned back to where they came from. Certainly the weather in Dublin is cold, wet and breezy but wouldn’t have thought it too bad TBH
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:41 pm

AmricanShamrok wrote:
BDKLEZ wrote:
Guessing the dodgy weather is kicking in at BFS maybe. We currently have multiple EZYs, a Jet2 from LPA in the hold and a poor wee LJ45 from BQH that's been running round the racetrack endlessly. U2839 from LGW has given up and is heading "elsewhere" at this time. There also EZY from LPL, LGW, LTN en route and about to get in the queue.

Yeah looks like a mess. Six U2 flights in various holds (all of which are in the top 10 most tracked worldwide on FR24 now). Also there's an Emerald Airlines UK AT7 in a hold over the Irish Sea for BHD.


Looks like your Emerald AT7 is off to DUB but now the LBA-BHD is in the same holding pattern. The EZY's are now getting in to BFS slowly but surely, but what a mess in the terminal I'm sure.
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:43 pm

AmricanShamrok wrote:
BDKLEZ wrote:
Guessing the dodgy weather is kicking in at BFS maybe. We currently have multiple EZYs, a Jet2 from LPA in the hold and a poor wee LJ45 from BQH that's been running round the racetrack endlessly. U2839 from LGW has given up and is heading "elsewhere" at this time. There also EZY from LPL, LGW, LTN en route and about to get in the queue.

Yeah looks like a mess. Six U2 flights in various holds (all of which are in the top 10 most tracked worldwide on FR24 now). Also there's an Emerald Airlines UK AT7 in a hold over the Irish Sea for BHD.


Theres heavy snow and wind currently in areas of the North and North Leinster. Don't envy those still in the air .
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:25 pm

The EDI - BHD looks like its heading to DUB

The LBA - BHD was due to take off at 15:55 actually took off at 20:40 only to be diverted to DUB.
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:46 pm

OA260 wrote:
Arguments over luggage storage in row 1/2 as is always the case on NSA/NSB.

I've yet to fly either of these aircraft but what exactly is causing the problems in AerSpace for overhead luggage? Is it simply cosmetic and missing the signage to say it's reserved or is it something more material due to the cabin design and layout?

It sounds like another example of something that really needs to be resolved as quickly as possible, particularly on aircraft used exclusively on Heathrow.
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:22 pm

Eirules wrote:
Not sure why but tonight’s ACE-DUB & LPA-DUB EI have both diverted to FAO. This morning’s ACE flight also went to FAO


Fuel.
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:44 pm

shamrock350 wrote:
OA260 wrote:
Arguments over luggage storage in row 1/2 as is always the case on NSA/NSB.

I've yet to fly either of these aircraft but what exactly is causing the problems in AerSpace for overhead luggage? Is it simply cosmetic and missing the signage to say it's reserved or is it something more material due to the cabin design and layout?

It sounds like another example of something that really needs to be resolved as quickly as possible, particularly on aircraft used exclusively on Heathrow.


The lockers above Aer space row 1 both sides say no stowage and is only for equipment and crew. So that means all Aer space seats 1A 1C 1 D 1 F who have to store everything above actually have no where and are forced to fight it out with row 2 and 3. When the aircraft has landed and people get up you have to try get your things 1-2 rows back . It causes stress for premium passengers and crew but of course the crew are the face of EI so often get the brunt of it.

Tonight for instance it got a bit heated between a crew member and passenger who is a regular and ended up with the crew member loosing it a bit and telling them they had been asked 3 times to put their bag in row 3 and they needed to co operate. That really did not go down well and others commented on it saying she was passive aggressive and its worse than Ryanair. Personally I saw both sides and its all down to no dedicated Aer space locker.

They do need to reconfigure the area above row 1 somehow because when your paying that much for a ticket which is sold as a premium experience the least you can expect is to have your bags above you within easy reach. The legroom is excellent and the seats fine for a short hop. There were bags everywhere as the flight was full and it delayed the departure even more.

Thank god next week Im back to my solo seat on the 321NEO !
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:22 am

OA260 wrote:
shamrock350 wrote:
OA260 wrote:
Arguments over luggage storage in row 1/2 as is always the case on NSA/NSB.

I've yet to fly either of these aircraft but what exactly is causing the problems in AerSpace for overhead luggage? Is it simply cosmetic and missing the signage to say it's reserved or is it something more material due to the cabin design and layout?

It sounds like another example of something that really needs to be resolved as quickly as possible, particularly on aircraft used exclusively on Heathrow.


The lockers above Aer space row 1 both sides say no stowage and is only for equipment and crew. So that means all Aer space seats 1A 1C 1 D 1 F who have to store everything above actually have no where and are forced to fight it out with row 2 and 3. When the aircraft has landed and people get up you have to try get your things 1-2 rows back . It causes stress for premium passengers and crew but of course the crew are the face of EI so often get the brunt of it.

Tonight for instance it got a bit heated between a crew member and passenger who is a regular and ended up with the crew member loosing it a bit and telling them they had been asked 3 times to put their bag in row 3 and they needed to co operate. That really did not go down well and others commented on it saying she was passive aggressive and its worse than Ryanair. Personally I saw both sides and its all down to no dedicated Aer space locker.

They do need to reconfigure the area above row 1 somehow because when your paying that much for a ticket which is sold as a premium experience the least you can expect is to have your bags above you within easy reach. The legroom is excellent and the seats fine for a short hop. There were bags everywhere as the flight was full and it delayed the departure even more.

Thank god next week Im back to my solo seat on the 321NEO !

Thanks OA, that does sound incredibly frustrating for passengers and crew alike. The crew in particular must feel constantly let down by management as no doubt they’ve raised this issue with the company since the aircraft were introduced.

I understand the A320NEOs were somewhat last minute deliveries but the truth is they each spent the best part of 2 months in Ostrava getting new seats, carpets and various other modifications, one of them then spent a whole month sitting at Shannon because of paperwork. The airline had the time to anticipate and address potential in service issues but quite clearly chose not to. They’ve also had a long, quiet winter to find a solution but haven’t bothered.

It may be a small thing in the grand scheme of things but for me it’s another glaring example of the blasé attitude that characterises Aer Lingus management at the moment.

Enjoy your 321NEO, now that is a fine aircraft! I’ve had my own good experiences with it on the SNN route.
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:21 am

Looks like another embarrassing display of de-icing at Dublin this morning…
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:44 am

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Looks like another embarrassing display of de-icing at Dublin this morning…


Doesn’t look great alright. At 8.30 only 25 of 77 departures had happened!
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:08 am

Was there snow in DUB this morning? Was the airport closed for a while? Seems to be some big delays
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:29 am

Total mess. Queues of aircraft waiting for a stand. Why are not central deicing pads instead of blocking gates.
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:35 am

People giving out on social about 2-3 hours sitting on aircraft.
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:37 am

It seems Ryanair have been hit hardest. Not sure if that’s because they’ve such a huge early departure bank
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:56 pm

It seems the Winter 2023 MAN-BGI is loaded and on sale but not on EI.COM yet.
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:31 pm

OA260 wrote:
It seems the Winter 2023 MAN-BGI is loaded and on sale but not on EI.COM yet.



I can see it on sale…
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:17 pm

OA260 wrote:
shamrock350 wrote:
OA260 wrote:
Arguments over luggage storage in row 1/2 as is always the case on NSA/NSB.

I've yet to fly either of these aircraft but what exactly is causing the problems in AerSpace for overhead luggage? Is it simply cosmetic and missing the signage to say it's reserved or is it something more material due to the cabin design and layout?

It sounds like another example of something that really needs to be resolved as quickly as possible, particularly on aircraft used exclusively on Heathrow.


The lockers above Aer space row 1 both sides say no stowage and is only for equipment and crew. So that means all Aer space seats 1A 1C 1 D 1 F who have to store everything above actually have no where and are forced to fight it out with row 2 and 3. When the aircraft has landed and people get up you have to try get your things 1-2 rows back . It causes stress for premium passengers and crew but of course the crew are the face of EI so often get the brunt of it.

Tonight for instance it got a bit heated between a crew member and passenger who is a regular and ended up with the crew member loosing it a bit and telling them they had been asked 3 times to put their bag in row 3 and they needed to co operate. That really did not go down well and others commented on it saying she was passive aggressive and its worse than Ryanair. Personally I saw both sides and its all down to no dedicated Aer space locker.

They do need to reconfigure the area above row 1 somehow because when your paying that much for a ticket which is sold as a premium experience the least you can expect is to have your bags above you within easy reach. The legroom is excellent and the seats fine for a short hop. There were bags everywhere as the flight was full and it delayed the departure even more.

Thank god next week Im back to my solo seat on the 321NEO !


Yet another reason to fly Ryanair, again again and again, Fr flight crew dont have time for entitlement and petty arguments
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:24 pm

Galwayman wrote:
OA260 wrote:
shamrock350 wrote:
I've yet to fly either of these aircraft but what exactly is causing the problems in AerSpace for overhead luggage? Is it simply cosmetic and missing the signage to say it's reserved or is it something more material due to the cabin design and layout?

It sounds like another example of something that really needs to be resolved as quickly as possible, particularly on aircraft used exclusively on Heathrow.


The lockers above Aer space row 1 both sides say no stowage and is only for equipment and crew. So that means all Aer space seats 1A 1C 1 D 1 F who have to store everything above actually have no where and are forced to fight it out with row 2 and 3. When the aircraft has landed and people get up you have to try get your things 1-2 rows back . It causes stress for premium passengers and crew but of course the crew are the face of EI so often get the brunt of it.

Tonight for instance it got a bit heated between a crew member and passenger who is a regular and ended up with the crew member loosing it a bit and telling them they had been asked 3 times to put their bag in row 3 and they needed to co operate. That really did not go down well and others commented on it saying she was passive aggressive and its worse than Ryanair. Personally I saw both sides and its all down to no dedicated Aer space locker.

They do need to reconfigure the area above row 1 somehow because when your paying that much for a ticket which is sold as a premium experience the least you can expect is to have your bags above you within easy reach. The legroom is excellent and the seats fine for a short hop. There were bags everywhere as the flight was full and it delayed the departure even more.

Thank god next week Im back to my solo seat on the 321NEO !


Yet another reason to fly Ryanair, again again and again, Fr flight crew dont have time for entitlement and petty arguments


Oh but they do its called Flexi plus and recently they have been chasing some of EI's corps on a few routes and promising various "VIP" customer care carrots ;)
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:27 pm

shamrock321 wrote:
OA260 wrote:
It seems the Winter 2023 MAN-BGI is loaded and on sale but not on EI.COM yet.



I can see it on sale…


Yep me too now it wasn't showing on the App earlier .
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:01 pm

shamrock350 wrote:
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The lockers above Aer space row 1 both sides say no stowage and is only for equipment and crew. So that means all Aer space seats 1A 1C 1 D 1 F who have to store everything above actually have no where and are forced to fight it out with row 2 and 3. When the aircraft has landed and people get up you have to try get your things 1-2 rows back . It causes stress for premium passengers and crew but of course the crew are the face of EI so often get the brunt of it.
..............

The only department who didnt have an issue with the 2 A320neo are the fleet acquisition team, who got 2 new airframes into service at relatively low cost in record time.

A very simple immediate solution for the AerSpace baggage issue is to place AerSpace decals over row 2. (not a proper longterm solution to the issue though)
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:07 am

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Nice to see the first 332 being reactivated - I'm flying to SEA in early May with EI, and noticed it's scheduled to be a -200 not the -300 I had expected.

How long does it typically take to reactivate an aircraft like this once it's back at base in DUB?


It looks like -DUO is due to operate the EI53 to SEA tomorrow, the 11th. I’m pretty surprised it is so quick, but then again I’m sure a lot of work went on in Nimes beforehand and the aircraft is pretty much preserved from the day it went into storage.
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:47 am

Regarding SQ, the A359 can get off a wet 28L/10R at MTOW on an ICAO standard day, so they didn't need to wait for the new runway.

Many carriers block off the front row overhead bins on narrowbodies in my observations, Transavia keep their medical gear up there, various others block it for overnighting crew's bags (BA, KL, LH, AF) have all done it on my recent flights into DUB when it's their last arrival of the evening.
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:13 pm

aerlingusa330 wrote:
PlymSpotter wrote:
Nice to see the first 332 being reactivated - I'm flying to SEA in early May with EI, and noticed it's scheduled to be a -200 not the -300 I had expected.

How long does it typically take to reactivate an aircraft like this once it's back at base in DUB?


It looks like -DUO is due to operate the EI53 to SEA tomorrow, the 11th. I’m pretty surprised it is so quick, but then again I’m sure a lot of work went on in Nimes beforehand and the aircraft is pretty much preserved from the day it went into storage.


That is very surprising to be honest. I would have thought they would have taken much longer to go over everything onboard and ensure all is well.
 
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Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:41 pm

EIBoston wrote:
aerlingusa330 wrote:
PlymSpotter wrote:
Nice to see the first 332 being reactivated - I'm flying to SEA in early May with EI, and noticed it's scheduled to be a -200 not the -300 I had expected.

How long does it typically take to reactivate an aircraft like this once it's back at base in DUB?


It looks like -DUO is due to operate the EI53 to SEA tomorrow, the 11th. I’m pretty surprised it is so quick, but then again I’m sure a lot of work went on in Nimes beforehand and the aircraft is pretty much preserved from the day it went into storage.


That is very surprising to be honest. I would have thought they would have taken much longer to go over everything onboard and ensure all is well.


They'll have done it in Nimes over the last few months and on the delivery flight. They flew it back from Nimes at the service ceiling. Returning an aircraft from deep storage is a very thorough and regulated process. OEM's have very detailed procedures on it.
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:22 pm

So pleased to see DUO getting back in the sky, hope it sees many more years at EI
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:55 pm

What is the status of EI-DAA?
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:21 pm

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What is the status of EI-DAA?


It’s still at FNI, but I haven’t seen an updated timeline. I believe it’s still due to be back in DUB this month, though.
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Sun Mar 12, 2023 10:32 am

Jake801 wrote:
That escalated quickly...


not really. They've expressed similar sentiments on other threads on this site. It's part of the generic airliners.net theme that any non-capital city airport isn't allowed to have any long-haul routes by so-called "elite" airlines. That EI or UA haven't thought about IAH-DUB ought to be an indicator that there isn't a worthwhile market.

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one of the take-outs from that Lynne Embleton interview is that they foresee Manchester long-haul operations growing "manyfold" which would imply that they may go back to the original 4 aircraft plan (or grow beyond that) but with A330s going to be doing both JFK and MCO in the summer it would mean that a pair of A321LRs would be needed im future years which would allow the BOS route to go-ahead and, based on what was revealed a few years ago, ORD (most MAN connections and at the highest fares) to be make a reappearance on the MAN departure boards, It would then lead to what the route structure would be for winter: BOS, ORD and JFK all on A321LR (4 weekly BOS/ORD, 5 weekly JFK?) but with 2 A330s they'd need to think of at least 2 new winter seasonal destinations (MIA and CPT?) to run alongside BGI and MCO unless they just want to keep those 2 routes but rotate usage of the A330s?
 
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Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:08 am

David_itl wrote:
Jake801 wrote:
That escalated quickly...


not really. They've expressed similar sentiments on other threads on this site. It's part of the generic airliners.net theme that any non-capital city airport isn't allowed to have any long-haul routes by so-called "elite" airlines.

Huh? I'm sorry if you're frustrated, but let's all keep the thread an open and inclusive environment! :)
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:39 pm

David_itl wrote:
one of the take-outs from that Lynne Embleton interview is that they foresee Manchester long-haul operations growing "manyfold" which would imply that they may go back to the original 4 aircraft plan (or grow beyond that) but with A330s going to be doing both JFK and MCO in the summer it would mean that a pair of A321LRs would be needed im future years which would allow the BOS route to go-ahead and, based on what was revealed a few years ago, ORD (most MAN connections and at the highest fares) to be make a reappearance on the MAN departure boards

The MAN-ORD route was operated twice daily for many years by AA and BMI so to me, this seems like a big gap (unless the market has drastically changed since BD was bought out and AA scaled back its ORD longhaul ops).
 
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Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:29 pm

I booked flights with SAS in Plus and when I went to the seat map noticed it was a CR9 operated by Cityjet! I have admit I always forget they are still around such is the dissaperance of their own brand.

The flight was very good DUB - OSL . Crew were great . I presume these are Scandinavian based ?

Had not been down to the 100 gates in ages and was nice to see the new historic posters on display. Only issue in that pier is a terrible sewerage smell and blocked toilets . Nice to see a few more eateries available though .


Image

I do wonder what would have happened to WX had they kept those Russian aircraft though.
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:48 am

They'd have been rightly screwed since Feb 2022 with no support/parts available due to sanctions; I expect.
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:18 am

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They'd have been rightly screwed since Feb 2022 with no support/parts available due to sanctions; I expect.


And considering that these were the principal reasons for the type's lack of success outside Russia in the first place.
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:50 am

G-EILA just arrived in Dublin a few moments ago
 
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Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:29 am

tibsthefox wrote:
G-EILA just arrived in Dublin a few moments ago

Usually for a short maintenance visit.
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:10 pm

A video was posted of -DUO landing in DUB from FNI last Thursday. It’s great to see her back!

https://youtu.be/K2JPPwEbUeo

Looks like -DAA is due back in DUB on March 26th.
 
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Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:33 pm

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A video was posted of -DUO landing in DUB from FNI last Thursday. It’s great to see her back!

https://youtu.be/K2JPPwEbUeo

Looks like -DAA is due back in DUB on March 26th.

That’s my video :D
 
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Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:10 pm

tibsthefox wrote:
aerlingusa330 wrote:
A video was posted of -DUO landing in DUB from FNI last Thursday. It’s great to see her back!

https://youtu.be/K2JPPwEbUeo

Looks like -DAA is due back in DUB on March 26th.

That’s my video :D


It's a great video!! Thanks for capturing! Think you could get -DAA when it eventually arrives, too?
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:30 pm

tibsthefox wrote:
aerlingusa330 wrote:
A video was posted of -DUO landing in DUB from FNI last Thursday. It’s great to see her back!

https://youtu.be/K2JPPwEbUeo

Looks like -DAA is due back in DUB on March 26th.

That’s my video :D

Great video! I’d forgotten about -DUO’s wonky Shamrock on the tail! :lol:
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:39 pm

aerlingusa330 wrote:
tibsthefox wrote:
aerlingusa330 wrote:
A video was posted of -DUO landing in DUB from FNI last Thursday. It’s great to see her back!

https://youtu.be/K2JPPwEbUeo

Looks like -DAA is due back in DUB on March 26th.

That’s my video :D


It's a great video!! Thanks for capturing! Think you could get -DAA when it eventually arrives, too?

Thank you! Would certainly like to see her come in too, will get a video if I can!
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:40 pm

shamrock350 wrote:
tibsthefox wrote:
aerlingusa330 wrote:
A video was posted of -DUO landing in DUB from FNI last Thursday. It’s great to see her back!

https://youtu.be/K2JPPwEbUeo

Looks like -DAA is due back in DUB on March 26th.

That’s my video :D

Great video! I’d forgotten about -DUO’s wonky Shamrock on the tail! :lol:

Thanks! Be interesting to see if DUO is put into the new livery considering its relatively young age
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:16 pm

I had forgotten about it too, it's brutal. Not to stir up debate, but I hope it stays in the current livery for a while. I still haven't warmed up to the new livery on the 330s yet.
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:39 pm

I'm in the team that likes both liveries, so I don't really mind either way. Mind you there is something about the 332s that just looks right in the old livery
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:43 pm

FR offically launched 2023 summer schuedule. 33 based a/c with up to 16 max and 10% capacity growth. The usual criticism airport charges and incentives was thrown in.

https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ryan ... mmer-2023/
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:46 pm

Because of the A332s fuselage length I’d say the new livery will be slightly less bare-looking than the -300. A bit like the A320 vs A321LR new livery. I’m sure the 332s will stay in the old livery for the summer season though.
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:54 am

EIDL wrote:
They'd have been rightly screwed since Feb 2022 with no support/parts available due to sanctions; I expect.


I think the SSJ screwed CityJet long before that. The initial 15 aircraft order should have covered all of their fleet needs for the coming decades. Reliability, lack of spares and maintenance support and never getting certification for LCY were all issues. I suspect the failure of the SSJ pushed WX into the franchise/wet-lease with EI, perhaps so they could re-fleet. This approach worked for Stobart, so maybe that was the hope for cityJet?
Im sure you could argue that the SSJ order of itself was a sign of their financial weakness. The E170/E90 was already certified, in operation around the world and already operated by their biggest competitor at LCY. Once the SSJ gamble failed, the future of WX branded operations was sealed.

nickya340 wrote:
Because of the A332s fuselage length I’d say the new livery will be slightly less bare-looking than the -300. A bit like the A320 vs A321LR new livery. I’m sure the 332s will stay in the old livery for the summer season though.

Maybe it will look OK. I still think the titles are too small on the livery, they are barely legible from a distance. Lufthansa have similar placing and sizing of the titles, but the bold Ariel-type font stands out more. Its a shame as the overall livery is quite pleasing to the eye in person. The tail, winglet and engine colours are eye-catching.

Speaking of engines. EI-NSA appears to have had an engine change and is flying around with the No2 engine cowling painted white. Maybe white engines were a better idea for EI?
I don’t think I’ve ever seen an FR engine cowling that doesn’t match the livery? Even EI-DCL, the Dreamliner 737 manages to look consistent. It does have a white nose randome for a long time.
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:38 am

tibsthefox wrote:
Thanks! Be interesting to see if DUO is put into the new livery considering its relatively young age

Hard to take a guess. If its going to stay in service longer than 2026 then I would say yes.
But I cold easily see EI leave in in the old livery for summer 2025/26 if its going to be replaced.
Depends when its next C Check is due I suspect.

It was a 2007 delivery, so currently approaching 16 years old. (DAA is 22 years old)
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:23 am

Watch: Impromptu trad gig breaks out on Aer Lingus flight to New York

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/video- ... 07639.html

A bit of alternative IFE onboard
 
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Re: Irish 3/23: The March of time

Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:48 am

Eagleboy wrote:
But I cold easily see EI leave in in the old livery for summer 2025/26 if it’s going to be replaced.
Depends when its next C Check is due I suspect.

It was a 2007 delivery, so currently approaching 16 years old. (DAA is 22 years old)


I’d guess the “manyfold” growth predicted for MAN and a decision on the future wide body strategy play into it.
Will growth at MAN be A32Q driven to the east coast, or further afield with widebodies? Will EI continue to take used A333s from the likes of QR, or gradually rollover to A339s?
I don’t see an order for 20+ A350/787s for EI somehow. It would be great, but beyond the ambitions we have seen recently for the airline.
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