LNK announcement March 30

PITFlyer330 · Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:14 pm

Lincoln airport in Nebraska has an announcement tomorrow at noon https://twitter.com/LNKairport/status/1 ... 03842?s=20

Yesterday they posted asking if people would like MCO or LAS

whose it going to be? Breeze avelo spirit frontier?

USAavdork · Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:26 pm

Can’t make up my mind if it’s Breeze or Avelo but I do think that was a tease and no matter who it is, they’ll serve LNK-MCO and LNK-LAS! Or could it even be G4?!

BTVB6Flyer · Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:28 pm

^^ Can't be G4 considering they specifically called out MCO

Makes me think it's Breeze

stlgph · Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:28 pm

another link in the Avelo east and west network would make sense.

Lilj4425 · Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:34 pm

My guess would be Avelo. Not sure how well this will go being so close to OMA.

N383SW · Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:38 pm

Hmmm... Kind of something Avelo would try... wonder if it could possibly be SY? I would think Breeze would just serve OMA.

BTVB6Flyer · Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:40 pm

If it's both LAS and MCO, it would be odd Avelo would do LAS-LNK, considering they only fly 1 route from LAS on the West Coast. That's why I lean Breeze.

If it ends up being just MCO, Avelo makes more sense.

MrNuke · Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:46 pm

Lilj4425 wrote:
My guess would be Avelo. Not sure how well this will go being so close to OMA.

Whoever it is will be getting a handsome MRG, and then we'll see how they fare after the subsidy is gone.

TexasAirCorp · Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:48 pm

I think Avelo is a safe bet. They always seem to announce routes on either Tuesdays or Thursdays at 12 noon.

Lilj4425 · Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:08 pm

Who is it?

evank516 · Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:15 pm

Neither Avelo nor Breeze's websites are listing LNK as a destination as of 12:15 PM CDT.

TexasAirCorp · Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:21 pm

Only news release that's come out is that United is ending service to LNK...

https://www.wcia.com/news/united-airlin ... n-airport/

Lilj4425 · Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:23 pm

TexasAirCorp wrote:
Only news release that's come out is that United is ending service to LNK...

https://www.wcia.com/news/united-airlin ... n-airport/

Lol. Wrong airport. This is for Lincoln, Nebraska. That’s Springfield, Illinois.

BTVB6Flyer · Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:37 pm

Red Way, operated by Global Crossing, will launch flights from Lincoln, Nebraska (LNK) to the following destinations:

- Atlanta (ATL)
- Austin (AUS)
- Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW)
- Las Vegas (LAS)
- Minneapolis (MSP)
- Nashville (BNA)
- Orlando (MCO)
https://twitter.com/IshrionA/status/1641494467487186944

Lilj4425 · Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:41 pm

BTVB6Flyer wrote:
Red Way, operated by Global Crossing, will launch flights from Lincoln, Nebraska (LNK) to the following destinations:

- Atlanta (ATL)
- Austin (AUS)
- Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW)
- Las Vegas (LAS)
- Minneapolis (MSP)
- Nashville (BNA)
- Orlando (MCO)
https://twitter.com/IshrionA/status/1641494467487186944

Red Way??? Not sure who that is or how that’s gonna be able to compete with OMA but good luck.

evank516 · Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:42 pm

What the...

smokeybandit · Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:42 pm

The flights will be provided by GlobalX Air Tours, a subsidiary of Global Crossing Airlines, which provides cargo air service as well as charter flights both to leisure travelers and to college sports teams. The airline uses Airbus 320 and 321 planes, which typically seat anywhere from 140-180 passengers depending on the seating configuration.

https://journalstar.com/business/local/ ... 0cc1c.html

Antoli0794 · Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:43 pm

Makes since from MSP, since DL cut the route last year.

gdavis003 · Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:44 pm

Thought it was April 1st for a hot second

jetskipper · Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:47 pm

Is this being subsided by the University or city? If not, who are the investors in this airline?

jetblastdubai · Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:50 pm

https://www.goflyred.com/index.cfm?fuse ... dspWelcome

Lincoln goes from way underserved to surprisingly well-served in one day. This might have been in the works for a while as LNK is nearing the completion of a terminal upgrade/expansion. They've had 4 gates for 7 daily flights for quite a while so this might explain why they decided to spend the money to expand.

MrNuke · Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:54 pm

jetskipper wrote:
Is this being subsided by the University or city? If not, who are the investors in this airline?

The city of Lincoln via federal ARPA funds had a $3 million pool of incentives that they were going to use to lure service. With that list of destinations it wouldn't surprise me if they blew the entire pot on this. The recent IAH service had a $750,000 federal grant and the city and the university each chipped in an addition $250,000 for a total of $1.25 million.

Juju2004 · Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:56 pm

Using the same sketchy website layout as Canada Jetlines also kinda owned by GlobalX

stlgph · Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:58 pm

that's a hell of a land. good for them.

AVLAirlineFreq · Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:59 pm

jetblastdubai wrote:
https://www.goflyred.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=pubDsp.dspWelcome

Lincoln goes from way underserved to surprisingly well-served in one day.

I think you meant to type "...to insanely overserved in one day."

sprxUSA · Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:02 pm

Darn was hoping Northern Pacific to ONT LOL.

jetskipper · Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:22 pm

MrNuke wrote:
jetskipper wrote:
Is this being subsided by the University or city? If not, who are the investors in this airline?

The city of Lincoln via federal ARPA funds had a $3 million pool of incentives that they were going to use to lure service. With that list of destinations it wouldn't surprise me if they blew the entire pot on this. The recent IAH service had a $750,000 federal grant and the city and the university each chipped in an addition $250,000 for a total of $1.25 million.

How long would $3M last for twice a day Airbus operations?

HVNHAWKHUNTER · Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:26 pm

evank516 wrote:
What the...

Agreed

MrNuke · Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:28 pm

jetskipper wrote:
MrNuke wrote:
jetskipper wrote:
Is this being subsided by the University or city? If not, who are the investors in this airline?

The city of Lincoln via federal ARPA funds had a $3 million pool of incentives that they were going to use to lure service. With that list of destinations it wouldn't surprise me if they blew the entire pot on this. The recent IAH service had a $750,000 federal grant and the city and the university each chipped in an addition $250,000 for a total of $1.25 million.

How long would $3M last for twice a day Airbus operations?

That is the question. Per the Lincoln newspaper the airport said the following "Haring is hopeful the service will be successful and the amount of money GlobalX will need will be small."
https://journalstar.com/business/local/ ... -top-story

But that is obviously outside of the airports control. It isn't inconceivable to me that they blow through a good chunk of that fairly quickly.

jporterfi · Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:35 pm

Does anyone think DL will bother responding to the MSP and ATL routes, or is LNK too close to OMA for them to bother? If they thought they could make money on them, I could see 2x ATL and 2x MSP on CR7/9s (if they have slack in those fleets).

toga998 · Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:43 pm

Someone's airline sim got out and is trying to play IRL.

777Mech · Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:44 pm

jetblastdubai wrote:
https://www.goflyred.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=pubDsp.dspWelcome

Lincoln goes from way underserved to surprisingly well-served in one day. This might have been in the works for a while as LNK is nearing the completion of a terminal upgrade/expansion. They've had 4 gates for 7 daily flights for quite a while so this might explain why they decided to spend the money to expand.

Has anyone checked on the the neglected mid-western posters?

CID could sustain this service.....

MrNuke · Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:45 pm

jporterfi wrote:
Does anyone think DL will bother responding to the MSP and ATL routes, or is LNK too close to OMA for them to bother? If they thought they could make money on them, I could see 2x ATL and 2x MSP on CR7/9s (if they have slack in those fleets).

Delta already had pulled out of both routes by the end of 2021. ATL was subsidized in the beginning and MSP was pro-rate / at-risk agreement with Skywest too. I don't think they have any intention of coming back and they're certainly not going to some back and compete against a heavily subsidized charter airline.

evank516 · Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:55 pm

MrNuke wrote:
jporterfi wrote:
Does anyone think DL will bother responding to the MSP and ATL routes, or is LNK too close to OMA for them to bother? If they thought they could make money on them, I could see 2x ATL and 2x MSP on CR7/9s (if they have slack in those fleets).

Delta already had pulled out of both routes by the end of 2021. ATL was subsidized in the beginning and MSP was pro-rate / at-risk agreement with Skywest too. I don't think they have any intention of coming back and they're certainly not going to some back and compete against a heavily subsidized charter airline.

You're right...but I think an announcement of DL's return to LNK would have been more welcomed than this.

MIflyer12 · Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:56 pm

MrNuke wrote:
jporterfi wrote:
Does anyone think DL will bother responding to the MSP and ATL routes, or is LNK too close to OMA for them to bother? If they thought they could make money on them, I could see 2x ATL and 2x MSP on CR7/9s (if they have slack in those fleets).

Delta already had pulled out of both routes by the end of 2021. ATL was subsidized in the beginning and MSP was pro-rate / at-risk agreement with Skywest too. I don't think they have any intention of coming back and they're certainly not going to some back and compete against a heavily subsidized charter airline.

A drive to Omaha, the greater frequency offered by DL from Omaha, and the worldwide connectivity of the SkyTeam network is Delta's play here.

MrNuke · Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:59 pm

evank516 wrote:
MrNuke wrote:
jporterfi wrote:
Does anyone think DL will bother responding to the MSP and ATL routes, or is LNK too close to OMA for them to bother? If they thought they could make money on them, I could see 2x ATL and 2x MSP on CR7/9s (if they have slack in those fleets).

Delta already had pulled out of both routes by the end of 2021. ATL was subsidized in the beginning and MSP was pro-rate / at-risk agreement with Skywest too. I don't think they have any intention of coming back and they're certainly not going to some back and compete against a heavily subsidized charter airline.

You're right...but I think an announcement of DL's return to LNK would have been more welcomed than this.

No doubt. They're essentially trying to do O/D from LNK to some destinations OMA doesn't even have PDEW to support much less LNK.

LeVerdad · Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:59 pm

This isn't going to end well..."summer" with no firm dates, no reservation system (yet), they wasted all this earned media with no booking options, its operating under a guarantee as a charter. I really can't wrap my head around how bad this is going to go and blow through the subsidy but someone is getting paid. Airline snake oil.

I hope a real airline will respond but I doubt it.

MrNuke · Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:01 pm

LeVerdad wrote:
This isn't going to end well..."summer" with no firm dates, no reservation system (yet), they wasted all this earned media with no booking options, its operating under a guarantee as a charter. I really can't wrap my head around how bad this is going to go and blow through the subsidy but someone is getting paid. Airline snake oil.

I hope a real airline will respond but I doubt it.

Their booking site is live, but I agree with the rest of the post except the last sentence. There is a reason there is only one airline is serving LNK right now. It is 50 miles away from a much larger airport.

https://www.goflyred.com/index.cfm?fuse ... dspWelcome

btfarrwm · Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:07 pm

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jetskipper wrote:
Is this being subsided by the University or city? If not, who are the investors in this airline?

The University might not be subsidizing the venture, but they definitely support it. NU's new football coach Matt Ruhle and Women's Volleyball coach John Cook were both at the unveiling event at the airport.

gdavis003 · Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:13 pm

I mean c'mon - you have to proofread your website . . . :lol:

AC4500 · Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:13 pm

I don't see DL responding here. If they left LNK, I don't see why they would come back only to be challenged by low-cost competition. If anything, I think we'll potentially see AA adding DFW-LNK. I'm kind of surprised that they don't already fly that route.

jetblastdubai · Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:16 pm

AC4500 wrote:
I don't see DL responding here. If they left LNK, I don't see why they would come back only to be challenged by low-cost competition. If anything, I think we'll potentially see AA adding DFW-LNK.

The CEO mentioned that MIA will hopefully be the next city served.

https://www.1011now.com/2023/03/30/live ... tinations/

MrNuke · Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:16 pm

AC4500 wrote:
I think we'll potentially see AA adding DFW-LNK. I'm kind of surprised that they don't already fly that route.

You won't see that either. LNK had a $750,000 federal subsidy for DFW-LNK service that went unused for years before the able was get it amended to Texas-LNK and United jumped on it for IAH service and to help rotate C5 planes to their maintenance facility at LNK.

If anything I think the bigger legacy issue here is if United pulls back at at all with a ton of low cost seats thrown into the market. As it stands if you want to connect anywhere not one of these new cities to or from LNK, UA is still your only option, but I doubt they're thrilled to see a bunch of seats thrown into the mix there.

AA already gets an EAS subsidy for GRI-DFW and has a station at OMA.

Lilj4425 · Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:19 pm

jetblastdubai wrote:
AC4500 wrote:
I don't see DL responding here. If they left LNK, I don't see why they would come back only to be challenged by low-cost competition. If anything, I think we'll potentially see AA adding DFW-LNK.

The CEO mentioned that MIA will hopefully be the next city served.

https://www.1011now.com/2023/03/30/live ... tinations/

LOL. They aren’t fooling anybody except themselves. This airline will be bankrupt before that happens. I fully expect them to be completely gone within a year.

gdavis003 · Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:19 pm

AC4500 wrote:
I don't see DL responding here. If they left LNK, I don't see why they would come back only to be challenged by low-cost competition. If anything, I think we'll potentially see AA adding DFW-LNK. I'm kind of surprised that they don't already fly that route.

Agreed. Wait for the stunned reactions of passengers when they realize that they will be deplaning via airstairs in ATL at Signature, and then, they'll have to get an Uber to the terminal. This will crash and burn pretty fast - even though I think GlobalX is generally reputable. This idea just doesn't seem to work.

wenders825 · Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:22 pm

the "CEO", Ed Wegel, is the same one who was in charge of the failed attempt at Eastern Airlines a few years ago

Boiler905 · Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:22 pm

Gulfstream500 · Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:22 pm

What?

Who knew that the next airline hub would be located in Lincoln, NE!

In all honesty, the concept of putting an airline base in the middle of Nebraska SCREAMS Allegiant though.

evank516 · Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:38 pm

MrNuke wrote:
evank516 wrote:
MrNuke wrote:
Delta already had pulled out of both routes by the end of 2021. ATL was subsidized in the beginning and MSP was pro-rate / at-risk agreement with Skywest too. I don't think they have any intention of coming back and they're certainly not going to some back and compete against a heavily subsidized charter airline.

You're right...but I think an announcement of DL's return to LNK would have been more welcomed than this.

No doubt. They're essentially trying to do O/D from LNK to some destinations OMA doesn't even have PDEW to support much less LNK.

And since LNK pax leak to OMA, there's really zero market for this.

ahj2000 · Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:57 pm

Two weekly off a "new" carrier to SEVEN places at once? This will be a great sentence in LNK's Wikipedia page in a year or so...

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