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BY LAXPolaris
#23783205
Now that UA’s booking engine shows the full March 2024 month, we can see which routes turn seasonal after all the big increases for the Northern winter season. It basically goes back to the same schedule that they have for this Northern summer.

LAX-BNE suspends on March 27, so this will only be a Northern winter season route
SFO-BNE decreases from daily to 3x weekly, scheduled to remain a 789 for now but could be adjusted
LAX-MEL decreases from daily to 3x weekly
SFO-MEL downgauges from 777W to 789, still daily
LAX-SYD is unchanged, 1x daily 789 year round, no seasonal changes
SFO-SYD decreases from 2x daily to 1x daily 77W
IAH-SYD suspends on March 28, so this will remain a Northern winter seasonal route

I believe this is the exact same schedule they are operating this summer. With all the expansion they are doing next winter, I was hoping there would be a little more capacity that sticked around year round but I guess there will not be.
BY ZK-NBT
#23783243
LAXPolaris wrote:Now that UA’s booking engine shows the full March 2024 month, we can see which routes turn seasonal after all the big increases for the Northern winter season. It basically goes back to the same schedule that they have for this Northern summer.

LAX-BNE suspends on March 27, so this will only be a Northern winter season route
SFO-BNE decreases from daily to 3x weekly, scheduled to remain a 789 for now but could be adjusted
LAX-MEL decreases from daily to 3x weekly
SFO-MEL downgauges from 777W to 789, still daily
LAX-SYD is unchanged, 1x daily 789 year round, no seasonal changes
SFO-SYD decreases from 2x daily to 1x daily 77W
IAH-SYD suspends on March 28, so this will remain a Northern winter seasonal route

I believe this is the exact same schedule they are operating this summer. With all the expansion they are doing next winter, I was hoping there would be a little more capacity that sticked around year round but I guess there will not be.


It’s way to early to have any confirmation though, things change.
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BY LoganTheBogan
#23783279
QF6040 was filled up with 99.8 tonnes of fuel, which is pretty good considering it can take around 126t if I’m not mistaken.

A 787 crew member will be able to correct max fuel capacity.
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BY RyanairGuru
#23783321
LAXPolaris wrote:Now that UA’s booking engine shows the full March 2024 month, we can see which routes turn seasonal after all the big increases for the Northern winter season. It basically goes back to the same schedule that they have for this Northern summer.

LAX-BNE suspends on March 27, so this will only be a Northern winter season route
SFO-BNE decreases from daily to 3x weekly, scheduled to remain a 789 for now but could be adjusted
LAX-MEL decreases from daily to 3x weekly
SFO-MEL downgauges from 777W to 789, still daily
LAX-SYD is unchanged, 1x daily 789 year round, no seasonal changes
SFO-SYD decreases from 2x daily to 1x daily 77W
IAH-SYD suspends on March 28, so this will remain a Northern winter seasonal route

I believe this is the exact same schedule they are operating this summer. With all the expansion they are doing next winter, I was hoping there would be a little more capacity that sticked around year round but I guess there will not be.


While it would be great to see more year-round capacity from United, they can make more money flying TATL in summer so the seasonal fluctuations make some sense. Hopefully the routes do well enough this NS that they re-consider at least some of those seasonal capacity reductions for NS24.
BY KeroBurner
#23783337
LoganTheBogan wrote:QF6040 was filled up with 99.8 tonnes of fuel, which is pretty good considering it can take around 126t if I’m not mistaken.

A 787 crew member will be able to correct max fuel capacity.


126,000 Litres ~ 99.5 Tonnes. The tanks would have been full.
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BY SCFlyer
#23783397
Would also be too early if the NS24 schedules for Australia stick. There is also potential the 2nd SYD-SFO could be downgauged to 789 for NS24 if that goes well over NW23/24 on the 77W.

I would be assuming UA may be able to get away with 5x or 6x weekly BNE-SFO for NS24 (perhaps downgauged on the 788 again) despite Queensland and BAC putting out a media press release announcing the funding for the new SFO daily services.

BNE-LAX may depend on how UA goes against QF, they are putting in their own OpEx/funds to compete on this route.
BY Kent350787
#23783547
    vhebb wrote:Any updates on the QF A380 fleet? Anyone know when the next ones will return to service?

    Also any details on when OQL will get a cabin upgrade?


    I saw the other day that it was operating with its original interior (seats badly scratched in places), but also realised it was the last delivered.

    I assume there’ll be a swap out when another returns to service, but it’s at the end of the queue.

    May have also been in the April thread, but EK is soon starting from SYD 2xa380 daily plus direct 773 daily. SQ will also bring a second a380 daily.
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    BY EK413
    #23783579
    Kent350787 wrote:
      vhebb wrote:Any updates on the QF A380 fleet? Anyone know when the next ones will return to service?

      Also any details on when OQL will get a cabin upgrade?


      I saw the other day that it was operating with its original interior (seats badly scratched in places), but also realised it was the last delivered.

      I assume there’ll be a swap out when another returns to service, but it’s at the end of the queue.

      May have also been in the April thread, but EK is soon starting from SYD 2xa380 daily plus direct 773 daily. SQ will also bring a second a380 daily.

      That is correct EK resumes their 3rd daily service however on B77W equipment.

      EK416 DXB 03:30 SYD 17:20
      EK417 SYD 20:10 DXB 10:30


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      BY Fuling
      #23783603
      EK413 wrote:
      Kent350787 wrote:
        vhebb wrote:Any updates on the QF A380 fleet? Anyone know when the next ones will return to service?

        Also any details on when OQL will get a cabin upgrade?


        I saw the other day that it was operating with its original interior (seats badly scratched in places), but also realised it was the last delivered.

        I assume there’ll be a swap out when another returns to service, but it’s at the end of the queue.

        May have also been in the April thread, but EK is soon starting from SYD 2xa380 daily plus direct 773 daily. SQ will also bring a second a380 daily.

        That is correct EK resumes their 3rd daily service however on B77W equipment.

        EK416 DXB 03:30 SYD 17:20
        EK417 SYD 20:10 DXB 10:30


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        That schedule isn't accurate. It'll be:

        EK416 DXB 21:30 SYD 17:20
        EK417 SYD 20:10 DXB 04:30

        It's interesting EK departs DXB from three departure banks, but only feed two from SYD.
        BY JJWess
        #23783607
        Anyone know what’s up with Air Canada’s 77L at SYD? (C-FIUF)
        Been sitting on the tarmac for a few days. Saw it last night.. not sure if it’s leaving today?
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        BY LAXPolaris
        #23783617
        SCFlyer wrote:Would also be too early if the NS24 schedules for Australia stick. There is also potential the 2nd SYD-SFO could be downgauged to 789 for NS24 if that goes well over NW23/24 on the 77W.

        I would be assuming UA may be able to get away with 5x or 6x weekly BNE-SFO for NS24 (perhaps downgauged on the 788 again) despite Queensland and BAC putting out a media press release announcing the funding for the new SFO daily services.

        BNE-LAX may depend on how UA goes against QF, they are putting in their own OpEx/funds to compete on this route.


        I’m assuming the new agreement with Queensland only requires UA to operate SFO-BNE daily during the peak season, I doubt they agreed to do it year round. They just aren’t super clear on that stuff in the press release. If it was agreed to be daily year round I’d assume the schedule would reflect that.

        You’re right though - it’s still way too far away so lots could still change. Just thought it was interesting to see the schedule posted now for NS24 is identical to NS23.
        BY jspams20
        #23783677
        LAXPolaris wrote:
        SCFlyer wrote:Would also be too early if the NS24 schedules for Australia stick. There is also potential the 2nd SYD-SFO could be downgauged to 789 for NS24 if that goes well over NW23/24 on the 77W.

        I would be assuming UA may be able to get away with 5x or 6x weekly BNE-SFO for NS24 (perhaps downgauged on the 788 again) despite Queensland and BAC putting out a media press release announcing the funding for the new SFO daily services.

        BNE-LAX may depend on how UA goes against QF, they are putting in their own OpEx/funds to compete on this route.


        I’m assuming the new agreement with Queensland only requires UA to operate SFO-BNE daily during the peak season, I doubt they agreed to do it year round. They just aren’t super clear on that stuff in the press release. If it was agreed to be daily year round I’d assume the schedule would reflect that.

        You’re right though - it’s still way too far away so lots could still change. Just thought it was interesting to see the schedule posted now for NS24 is identical to NS23.

        Almost every airline loads in the previous year’s schedule before making adjustments off that. We’re talking 11+ months from now.
        BY qf744fan
        #23783681
        LoganTheBogan wrote:QF6040 was filled up with 99.8 tonnes of fuel, which is pretty good considering it can take around 126t if I’m not mistaken.

        A 787 crew member will be able to correct max fuel capacity.


        Sorry, haven't followed these threads for a while. Can anyone say why it flew almost to Esperence before turning back to Melbourne. At the point of turnback it was about halfway between Perth and Adelaide. Was it a range proving mission or something?
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        BY LoganTheBogan
        #23783685
        qf744fan wrote:
        LoganTheBogan wrote:QF6040 was filled up with 99.8 tonnes of fuel, which is pretty good considering it can take around 126t if I’m not mistaken.

        A 787 crew member will be able to correct max fuel capacity.


        Sorry, haven't followed these threads for a while. Can anyone say why it flew almost to Esperence before turning back to Melbourne. At the point of turnback it was about halfway between Perth and Adelaide. Was it a range proving mission or something?


        Just collecting additional fatigue related data for project sunrise as well as any other data they may be interested in.
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        BY LAXPolaris
        #23783693
        jspams20 wrote:Almost every airline loads in the previous year’s schedule before making adjustments off that. We’re talking 11+ months from now.


        Yes you’re right there could still be a ton of adjustments made to these schedules, but as of now the initial plan is for these certain routes is to be seasonal. There was some question to that as the announcement from UA on the new routes / expanded services as they didn’t specially state which changes were seasonal vs year round, so seeing this is our first idea. SFO-CHC was the only one the announcement specifically said is seasonal. LAX-BNE and LAX-BNE were not specifically mentioned as seasonal, and we also didn’t know if the upgauges were seasonal or not, so this tells us the initial plan is that these are all seasonal.
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        BY EK413
        #23783713
        Fuling wrote:
        EK413 wrote:
        Kent350787 wrote:

          I saw the other day that it was operating with its original interior (seats badly scratched in places), but also realised it was the last delivered.

          I assume there’ll be a swap out when another returns to service, but it’s at the end of the queue.

          May have also been in the April thread, but EK is soon starting from SYD 2xa380 daily plus direct 773 daily. SQ will also bring a second a380 daily.

          That is correct EK resumes their 3rd daily service however on B77W equipment.

          EK416 DXB 03:30 SYD 17:20
          EK417 SYD 20:10 DXB 10:30


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          That schedule isn't accurate. It'll be:

          EK416 DXB 21:30 SYD 17:20
          EK417 SYD 20:10 DXB 04:30

          It's interesting EK departs DXB from three departure banks, but only feed two from SYD.

          I’d say Flightradar24 needs to be updated if that be the case.

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          BY LTEN11
          #23783723
          EK413 wrote:
          Fuling wrote:
          EK413 wrote:That is correct EK resumes their 3rd daily service however on B77W equipment.

          EK416 DXB 03:30 SYD 17:20
          EK417 SYD 20:10 DXB 10:30


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          That schedule isn't accurate. It'll be:

          EK416 DXB 21:30 SYD 17:20
          EK417 SYD 20:10 DXB 04:30

          It's interesting EK departs DXB from three departure banks, but only feed two from SYD.

          I’d say Flightradar24 needs to be updated if that be the case.

          Image
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          The current night time SYD departure, EK413 DEP 21:10 ARR 05:40. Can't see how the schedule you posted above could be accurate.

          10:30 sounds like it might be SYD time when it arrives in DXB.
          BY NTLDaz
          #23783727
          LTEN11 wrote:
          EK413 wrote:
          Fuling wrote:
          That schedule isn't accurate. It'll be:

          EK416 DXB 21:30 SYD 17:20
          EK417 SYD 20:10 DXB 04:30

          It's interesting EK departs DXB from three departure banks, but only feed two from SYD.

          I’d say Flightradar24 needs to be updated if that be the case.

          Image
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          The current night time SYD departure, EK413 DEP 21:10 ARR 05:40. Can't see how the schedule you posted above could be accurate.

          10:30 sounds like it might be SYD time when it arrives in DXB.


          They all seem to be Sydney time. 13 hours 50 to Sydney and 14:20 from Sydney. If that 3.30am was Dubai time it would be a supersonic flight.
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          BY SCFlyer
          #23783757
          smi0006 wrote:Apologies don’t recall seeing this in last months thread - Batik Malaysia to fly to ADL 3x weekly

          https://www.linkedin.com/posts/adelaide ... member_ios

          ADL is deffs a market I see expanding with longer range narrow bodies. Could a 321XLR make NRT from ADL?


          Schedule:
          KUL-ADL Dep 2310 Arr 0750 (+1) 246
          ADL-KUL Dep 0840 Arr 1455 357

          Schedule Source: https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230424-odadl
          News Article: https://glamadelaide.com.au/adelaide-lo ... w-airline/

          I would assume it's one of the 2-class 7M8s (despite Batik Malaysia also having all-Y 7M8 configs) per the Aeroroute source.
          BY AirbusA322
          #23783871
          Batik must be making some good dollars on its Australian runs as they have expanded likely crazy this side of the pandemic.

          Thought we might have seen more from AirAsia in regards to A321N routes from Australia to some of its local subsidiaries.
          BY anstar
          #23783877
          SCFlyer wrote:
          Schedule:
          KUL-ADL Dep 2310 Arr 0750 (+1) 246
          ADL-KUL Dep 0840 Arr 1455 357

          Schedule Source: https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230424-odadl
          News Article: https://glamadelaide.com.au/adelaide-lo ... w-airline/

          I would assume it's one of the 2-class 7M8s (despite Batik Malaysia also having all-Y 7M8 configs) per the Aeroroute source.


          Looking at some dates on expert flyer looks like it is all Y with no business.
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          BY EK413
          #23783981
          NTLDaz wrote:
          LTEN11 wrote:
          EK413 wrote:I’d say Flightradar24 needs to be updated if that be the case.

          Image
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          The current night time SYD departure, EK413 DEP 21:10 ARR 05:40. Can't see how the schedule you posted above could be accurate.

          10:30 sounds like it might be SYD time when it arrives in DXB.


          They all seem to be Sydney time. 13 hours 50 to Sydney and 14:20 from Sydney. If that 3.30am was Dubai time it would be a supersonic flight.

          My bad, these are AEST timings didn’t take into account departure & arrival Gulf Standard Times.

          Thanks for pointing this out


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          BY AirbusA322
          #23784701
          Does not look like Virgin will get its MAX by mid June. Not sure what happens to the Toyko route, I assume they will just delay it by 3-4 weeks.

          Not great being school holidays and all.
          BY tullamarine
          #23784709
          AirbusA322 wrote:Does not look like Virgin will get its MAX by mid June. Not sure what happens to the Toyko route, I assume they will just delay it by 3-4 weeks.

          Not great being school holidays and all.

          It is likely they will deploy their 2 2-class 737-700s onto the route. They are able to make the journey albeit with less capacity than the delayed MAX.
          BY freshwater
          #23784739
          tullamarine wrote:
          AirbusA322 wrote:Does not look like Virgin will get its MAX by mid June. Not sure what happens to the Toyko route, I assume they will just delay it by 3-4 weeks.

          Not great being school holidays and all.

          It is likely they will deploy their 2 2-class 737-700s onto the route. They are able to make the journey albeit with less capacity than the delayed MAX.


          I have heard staff are being trained for this contingency
          BY tullamarine
          #23784843
          tullamarine wrote:
          AirbusA322 wrote:Does not look like Virgin will get its MAX by mid June. Not sure what happens to the Toyko route, I assume they will just delay it by 3-4 weeks.

          Not great being school holidays and all.

          It is likely they will deploy their 2 2-class 737-700s onto the route. They are able to make the journey albeit with less capacity than the delayed MAX.

          Not sure if VBY and VBZ already have overwater equipment or whether this needs to be added before they commence CNS-HND but I assume that this would be at Boeing's cost as part of compensation for the latest MAX delay.
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          BY SCFlyer
          #23784865
          Was reported elsewhere on the wider social media that VBY and VBZ was EDTO equipped.

          VBY is also currently out of action and left for the middle east a week ago for a heavy maintenance check which should take 6 weeks tops. VA will be squeezing it to get that 700 back in time if the MAX-8 aren't able to be delivered in time either.
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          BY vhqpa
          #23784893
          I don’t think the VA 2 class -700s are overwater equipped, as far as I know they’ve never operated anything other than AU domestic. Turns out VBY is in Abu Dhabi at the moment, not sure if this has anything to do with preparing it for CNS-HND runs. at 3152 nm it must be one of the longest 737NG flights ever*. I’d be interested to know what sort of payload restrictions apply on an already smaller aircraft. An interesting decision when they already have a decent sized overwater 737-800 sub fleet that could make the trip with a fuel stop in somewhere like GUM along the way. Although that would be very unpopular with customers especially on the red eye return.

          * - Not including a few all J flights on specially equipped BBJ aircraft in the mid 00s.
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          BY SCFlyer
          #23784915
          vhqpa wrote:I don’t think the VA 2 class -700s are overwater equipped, as far as I know they’ve never operated anything other than AU domestic. Turns out VBY is in Abu Dhabi at the moment, not sure if this has anything to do with preparing it for CNS-HND runs. at 3152 nm it must be one of the longest 737NG flights ever*. I’d be interested to know what sort of payload restrictions apply on an already smaller aircraft. An interesting decision when they already have a decent sized overwater 737-800 sub fleet that could make the trip with a fuel stop in somewhere like GUM along the way. Although that would be very unpopular with customers especially on the red eye return.

          * - Not including a few all J flights on specially equipped BBJ aircraft in the mid 00s.


          As VA are in IPO 'roadshow' mode with little/no CapEx spending atm, I can't see their owners wanting a bad press for VA.
          They will rebook passengers if they need to 'bump' people off due to load restrictions or a last-moment change to a 2-class 737-700 due to the MAX delays.
          BY getluv
          #23784951
          tullamarine wrote:
          LAXintl wrote:Qantas CFO Vanessa Hudson appointed as future CEO replacing Alan Joyce when he retires in November.

          https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 023-05-01/

          So between Qantas and AFL, Richard Goyder has wasted several million dollars on executive search fees to hire the people sitting in the next office.


          Boards usually have an idea in mind but its appropriate to due diligence and see what's available. The hiring process is usually done using an external agency, where there is a more in-depth vetting process in case there's any skeletons in the closet.
          BY freshwater
          #23784955
          SCFlyer wrote:
          vhqpa wrote:I don’t think the VA 2 class -700s are overwater equipped, as far as I know they’ve never operated anything other than AU domestic. Turns out VBY is in Abu Dhabi at the moment, not sure if this has anything to do with preparing it for CNS-HND runs. at 3152 nm it must be one of the longest 737NG flights ever*. I’d be interested to know what sort of payload restrictions apply on an already smaller aircraft. An interesting decision when they already have a decent sized overwater 737-800 sub fleet that could make the trip with a fuel stop in somewhere like GUM along the way. Although that would be very unpopular with customers especially on the red eye return.

          * - Not including a few all J flights on specially equipped BBJ aircraft in the mid 00s.


          As VA are in IPO 'roadshow' mode with little/no CapEx spending atm, I can't see their owners wanting a bad press for VA.
          They will rebook passengers if they need to 'bump' people off due to load restrictions or a last-moment change to a 2-class 737-700 due to the MAX delays.


          The 737-800 fleet was making fuel stops in DRW on the East Coast DPS flights for a while post COVID due to an issue with Indonesian alternatives along the route so it's not unprecedented to see both VA and QF stretching their narrowbodies like this. How they're going to compete with QF, JL and NH for SYD, MEL and BNE traffic on this route will be interesting though...
          BY tullamarine
          #23784973
          getluv wrote:
          tullamarine wrote:
          LAXintl wrote:Qantas CFO Vanessa Hudson appointed as future CEO replacing Alan Joyce when he retires in November.

          https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 023-05-01/

          So between Qantas and AFL, Richard Goyder has wasted several million dollars on executive search fees to hire the people sitting in the next office.


          Boards usually have an idea in mind but its appropriate to due diligence and see what's available. The hiring process is usually done using an external agency, where there is a more in-depth vetting process in case there's any skeletons in the closet.

          It doesn't seem at any point was there any intent to go outside at Qantas with Hudson and Wirth the only two ever seriously in the frame. All the involvement of the consultants does is give the board plausible deniability if the appointment turns to custard later on.

          Goyder is widely criticised for what he did at AFL where he is seen as the weakest chairman since the commission was founded. It was a stitch up from the start with very little desire to bring someone in from outside what is seen as a very closed club.
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          BY EK413
          #23785131
          Have heard Dnata have secured contract to handle all of QF mainline tow handling, Swissport will continue to provide domestic ground handling.


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          BY kriskim
          #23785165
          EK413 wrote:Have heard Dnata have secured contract to handle all of QF mainline tow handling, Swissport will continue to provide domestic ground handling.


          That’s really interesting!

          I have also noticed that Oceania is aggressively expanding its operations, especially in the East Coast capitals. Everyone is still having staffing issues though.
          BY mrkerr7474
          #23785179
          kriskim wrote:
          EK413 wrote:Have heard Dnata have secured contract to handle all of QF mainline tow handling, Swissport will continue to provide domestic ground handling.


          That’s really interesting!

          I have also noticed that Oceania is aggressively expanding its operations, especially in the East Coast capitals. Everyone is still having staffing issues though.


          Who actually operates the ground handling (specifically baggage) for QF at Sydney International at the moment?

          Been a nightmare 8 days trying to locate my brothers lost bag that eventually got to its destination and with contacting Qantas baggage services multiple times, the person noted that they do not handle the actual ramp services (I of course knew that) but they claimed it was Dnata, which Dnata denied and to contact Qantas directly. Overall confusing really. I also got the "we're currently incredibly short staffed with everyone doing at least 3 different jobs" which doesn't surprise me right now so no wonder it was a mess
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          BY EK413
          #23785207
          mrkerr7474 wrote:
          kriskim wrote:
          EK413 wrote:Have heard Dnata have secured contract to handle all of QF mainline tow handling, Swissport will continue to provide domestic ground handling.


          That’s really interesting!

          I have also noticed that Oceania is aggressively expanding its operations, especially in the East Coast capitals. Everyone is still having staffing issues though.


          Who actually operates the ground handling (specifically baggage) for QF at Sydney International at the moment?

          Been a nightmare 8 days trying to locate my brothers lost bag that eventually got to its destination and with contacting Qantas baggage services multiple times, the person noted that they do not handle the actual ramp services (I of course knew that) but they claimed it was Dnata, which Dnata denied and to contact Qantas directly. Overall confusing really. I also got the "we're currently incredibly short staffed with everyone doing at least 3 different jobs" which doesn't surprise me right now so no wonder it was a mess

          Swissport handle Domestic whilst Dnata handle International.


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          BY F100Flyer
          #23785237
          Just browsing ANA website and PER-NRT schedule is now showing resuming 28th October - as announced earlier in the year 3x weekly with a 788, but now resuming straight to a daily schedule and upgauged to a 789.
          BY mrkerr7474
          #23785251
          EK413 wrote:
          mrkerr7474 wrote:
          kriskim wrote:
          That’s really interesting!

          I have also noticed that Oceania is aggressively expanding its operations, especially in the East Coast capitals. Everyone is still having staffing issues though.


          Who actually operates the ground handling (specifically baggage) for QF at Sydney International at the moment?

          Been a nightmare 8 days trying to locate my brothers lost bag that eventually got to its destination and with contacting Qantas baggage services multiple times, the person noted that they do not handle the actual ramp services (I of course knew that) but they claimed it was Dnata, which Dnata denied and to contact Qantas directly. Overall confusing really. I also got the "we're currently incredibly short staffed with everyone doing at least 3 different jobs" which doesn't surprise me right now so no wonder it was a mess

          Swissport handle Domestic whilst Dnata handle International.


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          Weird as to why Dnata would deny doing that and these phone calls were as close as yesterday I had with them
          BY smi0006
          #23785269
          [photoid][/photoid]
          mrkerr7474 wrote:
          EK413 wrote:
          mrkerr7474 wrote:
          Who actually operates the ground handling (specifically baggage) for QF at Sydney International at the moment?

          Been a nightmare 8 days trying to locate my brothers lost bag that eventually got to its destination and with contacting Qantas baggage services multiple times, the person noted that they do not handle the actual ramp services (I of course knew that) but they claimed it was Dnata, which Dnata denied and to contact Qantas directly. Overall confusing really. I also got the "we're currently incredibly short staffed with everyone doing at least 3 different jobs" which doesn't surprise me right now so no wonder it was a mess

          Swissport handle Domestic whilst Dnata handle International.


          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


          Weird as to why Dnata would deny doing that and these phone calls were as close as yesterday I had with them


          Dnata do the baggage handling - they don’t do front of house and mis-handled baggage. They simply load the plane, creating reports and tracing lost bags sits with Qantas, Dnata would have no visibility of QF mishandled baggage systems so they would be in no place to help you.
          BY mrkerr7474
          #23785301
          smi0006 wrote:[photoid][/photoid]
          mrkerr7474 wrote:
          EK413 wrote:Swissport handle Domestic whilst Dnata handle International.


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          Weird as to why Dnata would deny doing that and these phone calls were as close as yesterday I had with them


          Dnata do the baggage handling - they don’t do front of house and mis-handled baggage. They simply load the plane, creating reports and tracing lost bags sits with Qantas, Dnata would have no visibility of QF mishandled baggage systems so they would be in no place to help you.


          Makes sense but Qantas staff couldn't even tell me that. Alas, it's sorted now anyway
          BY LHRFlyer
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          I’m a little surprised by the timing of Alan Joyce’s departure.

          I would have thought he would want to stay for the launch of Project Sunrise.

          I guess the board probably thought his succession can’t wait any longer.
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