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Sabena Programme On TV5

Sat Jul 20, 2002 2:29 am

Hi

Just wondering whether anyone saw that programme on the demise of Sabena (in French), and how the employees of SN had been/are affected.

It was extremely sad to watch so many people plunged into uncertainty.

I'm sorry to bring up this topic again, but I wanted to ask any of you what you thought.

I was in Buenos Aires watching TV5 (French international channel), and since I'm english, I only understood parts of what was being said.

I felt particularly sad for the lady ex-Captain who is now teaching maths, and who lost her job because of the closure of the airline.

I also watched the crew arrive in Brussels from the very last SN flight-naturally, all were very upset.

A sad state of affairs, it makes one feel angry that governments and other organizations allowed this to happen.

An interesting programme nonetheless, even if I only speak/understand basic French (that's why I like watching TV5..)

Regards
 
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RE: Sabena Programme On TV5

Sat Jul 20, 2002 2:47 am

I felt particularly sad for the sorry other people who were unemployed while Sabena was bailed out for 30 odd years.Sabena was a bleeding dieing animal which was saved each year until when it was recently put down.With AMS,CDG,LHR and FRA so close it will always be tough to operate a major hub at BRU.It's amazing how little widebody traffic there is now without SN.
 
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RE: Sabena Programme On TV5

Sat Jul 20, 2002 11:35 pm

Not that little, Donder:

Aircraft positioned for operations out of Brussels:

3 Airbus 330-300 aircraft from SN Brussels Airlines

3 Airbus 330-200 aircraft from VG Airlines

7 Boeing 767-300 ER from Sobelair

1 Boeing 767 from Condor


Foreign companies:

A Daily 767-200 from Continental, A daily 767-300 from United, a daily 767 from American, two daily 767-300 from Delta

Weekly an Air Mauritius 340

3 times a week a 747-400 MEGATOP from Singapore

Weekly a Lockheed Tristar from Hewa Bora

Several times a week a DC 10 from Biman

Some widebodies from Africa

Sometimes widebodies from Egyptair

 
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RE: Sabena Programme On TV5

Sun Jul 21, 2002 12:39 am

When was it on? Is it likely to be repeated? We get TV5 Afrique here in Bahrain - and I can 'do' passable French (or get my bro to translate).

Would be interesting to see.
 
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RE: Sabena Programme On TV5

Sun Jul 21, 2002 12:57 am

I saw at SAint-Hubert (EBSH) the pilot who did the last SN flight from Africa, his name is Guy ....
He seemed happy to return back on a sailplane after widebodies :p

But my thought are for all the others who lost their jobs.
 
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RE: Sabena Programme On TV5

Sun Jul 21, 2002 1:00 am

He Pressclub,

The 7 times 767-300ER for Sobelair seems a lot to me, I think you meant 3 right??

You can ad these as well to the widebody traffic in Brussels:

-Lufthansa A300 to FRA
-MNG Pax, almost a daily A300 to Antalya.
-Egyptair as wel as Royal Air Maroc come to BRU regulary with widebodies
(Royal Air Maroc: 767-300 B747-400) (Egyptair: 767 777 747)

And what about the Cargo Traffic??
Lots of widebodies to be spotted on the cargo ramp every day!


AA


 
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RE: Sabena Programme On TV5

Sun Jul 21, 2002 1:10 am

How long are VG Airlines likely to be around?The best thing about is BRU is its cargo traffic as pax traffic is not immense for widebodies compared to other big EU cities.I don't I saw more than 3 Sobelair 763s over the time I was there though.What routing is VG7 because the 330 took off and turned left instead of right and towards Costa?
Cargo I saw:
SV 742F+M11
DHL 727+757+300+MK DC8
 
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RE: Sabena Programme On TV5

Sun Jul 21, 2002 1:21 am

7 Boeing 767-300 ER from Sobelair

I believe they have three 767's now. They received ex Belair B763 HB-IHV (or -HIV, I don't exactly remember anymore). My question: is this an additional 767, or a replacement for another aircraft which needs maintenance?

Maybe additional, because they were increasing Amsterdam-Curacao flights...

-Lufthansa A300 to FRA

Not anymore. The biggest now is A321.

Egyptair as well,767 777 747

I never saw the 767 of MS here... And we are downgraded from 777 to A300  Sad
Also lot's of A320's of MS here. Sad that we don't see the B747, A340 and B777 anymore, only during peak weekends, a few times a year  Sad

Regards,
Frederic



 
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RE: Sabena Programme On TV5

Sun Jul 21, 2002 1:21 am

> What routing is VG7 because the 330 took off and turned left

Donder10, IV007 is the flight to Yerevan, Armenia.

Scheduled flights from Brussels (BRU) to YEREVAN (EVN)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
IV007 1-3---- 14:05 21:25 332 1407-2610

 
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RE: Sabena Programme On TV5

Sun Jul 21, 2002 1:23 am

Thanks alot Established!I'm shocked they fly a 330 to Yerevan!

And we are downgraded from 777 to A300
LHR has seen the A300 alot the last 2 months with quite a few A321s.The 772s are back more often though.

 
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RE: Sabena Programme On TV5

Sun Jul 21, 2002 1:34 am

Oops: i made a mistake. Ofcourse SLR only has 3 767's and they operate not always out of Brussels.
The ex Belair/Balair one is here for the summer season only, normally. It's a power by the thour contract: SLR only pays when it flies with it. Two times a week this aircraft flies to Curacao and you can see it frequently doing charters ex Brussels. It's in a configuration with C Class seats...






 
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RE: Sabena Programme On TV5

Sun Jul 21, 2002 3:03 am

What was the name of the program on TV5, we are getting TV5 "etats unis" in Los Angeles  Big grin


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RE: Sabena Programme On TV5

Sun Jul 21, 2002 6:02 am

Singapore Airlines visits BRU 6 times a week with a 747-400, not 3 times. SIA comes in 3 times in the morning, arriving from SIN and going to MAN, and 3 times around noon, coming from MAN and flying to BRU. Only on mondays, no SIA passenger aircraft can be seen at BRU.

United is currently operating to 767-300s to BRU.

If I'm not mistaken, Hewra Bora flies 2 times a week from BRU to FIH, thursdays and sundays.

Royal Jordanian flies the A310 to BRU on sundays and ELAL the 767-200, these are only seasonal.
 
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RE: Sabena Programme On TV5

Mon Jul 22, 2002 4:02 pm

Attention about TV5 programs, as they may be different schedules from a continent to another which means that a report scheduled in Latin America won't necessarily be aired in the U.S on the same month...

More info on schedules: www.tv5.org


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Life is great at 41.000 feet...
 
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RE: Sabena Programme On TV5

Mon Jul 22, 2002 9:24 pm

And UNITED is comming 2 times a day with a 767-300?
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