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Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 4:12 am

Ignoring distance, diversions and a destination, what plane would you pick to fly (in) through extremely bad weather?
 
aa61hvy
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 4:15 am

777-200
or 747-400
filler
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caravelle
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 4:17 am

On board an old WF DHC 6. Been there, done that. 500 m drop, and the old bird behaved beautifully. Unsettled midriff, though!

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ben
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 4:18 am

Tupolev Tu-154!

Built like a tank. Loads of power. Heavy, so it cruises through the bumps.

Tough, wide-track undercarriage if the landing has to be made 'firm'.

Ben.
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 4:20 am

I'd go for a B744. Not just because it's less susceptible to weather. I love to watch the wings flop up and down in turbulence on the B744. The wings are so huge and so flexible, it's amazing. It makes for a different ride.

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ben
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 4:22 am

Hey Caravelle!

Ive had something similar happen on WF (it was a Dash8). We were flying between Hammerfest and Tromso. That is one very nice airline. I dont think they make many landings, though. More like a series of controlled crashed into hillsides - that was what it felt like at Hammerfest!

Ben.
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 4:23 am

I'll tell you what I WOULDN'T go in again through bad weather and that's a Shorts 360. I got shaken to hell in one of those once on the way to Jersey, CI. I thought my number was up.
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 4:25 am

I'll take a deHavilland Beaver, Otter, or Twin Otter. They can all land almost anywhere in almost anything.

There's a great book about the Beaver written by Sean Rossiter, in which he relates the story of how deHavilland won a US Army fly-off in the 50s by beating out all the competition in a field lift exercise. The competition was helicopters.

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 4:31 am

Without question 744. Having flown in and out of MIA countless times during stormy wx but the most comfortable time was in Virgin's "Jersey Girl" one year ago. I've been through some heavy turbulence before but that aircraft just throttled through it.

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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 6:05 am

You gotta think laterally.

Give me a Sukhoi Su-27.
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 6:37 am

Of course the ATR 42, my last bad weather flight with that plane felt like a roller coaster ride, real fun!

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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 6:51 am

Fokker 50 - In a storm it feels like a pingpong ball. ITs like if we crash we could just get out and walk to the airport Big grin.
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 7:48 am

Give me a 767-400ER. I wouldn't mind the 757-200, but that would probably be the smallest.
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 8:06 am

In bad weather I'd avoid flying in anything bigger than a B737, especially the large aircraft like the 747 and 777. When it comes to dealing with windshear, there's nothing like the smaller bizjets. As far as I know, there's never been a bizjet lost in a windshear accident - something that can't be said about the larger airliners. Over the years, 1000's of lives have been lost in airline accidents due to windshear. All of the bizjets are certified to the same standards as their airliner cousins and for all intents and purposes have the same weather capabilities.
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 8:15 am

The Beech 1900D  Big grin That thing gets absolutely nailed in high winds and is still pretty shaky in low winds, of course I learned the hard way!
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 8:22 am

Saab 340 man.
I've been in some hellish weather in those things.....
Circling huge thunderstorms, massive turbulence, bouncing all over the place, watching other passengers turning green and using the air sick bags.
Big snowstorms, minimal visibility, a nice glaze on the runway
30 mph winds gusting to 50 mph on takeoff.

Pretty sweet to be in that.
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 8:30 am

A B-1900D fishtails if someone caughs on the taxiway while it taxis by haha Big grin .

737-200 is pretty wild in a T-Storm. Was on a flight from PHX-LAS in an A320 and we hit an air pocket (T-Storms were in the distance), the plane did a quick drop and it shook like crazy...which is always fun.

A300 / L1011 fly right through it like a lumbering giant.
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 8:33 am

And for those of us without a death wish (yeah, the topic says "extremely bad weather"), I'd rather just stay on the ground.
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 8:36 am

A320s seem to handle bumps nicely, although a biz jet does sound inviting...

However, I would absolutely NOT want to be in a 767. Every time I've flown this type, the turbulence has been accentuated to the point of discomfort. Is there any reason why the 767 series doesn't handle well in bad weather?
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 9:27 am

I'd choose either a Dash-8 or a 737-200. They are both real bruisers that can take a lot of punishment. And they're still small enough that they'll give one hell of a ride. I love flying in storms.
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 9:45 am

The topic says BAD WEATHER... Not EXTREMELY BAD WEATHER...


Now, Back to topic. I only have one plane to go on during a bad T-Storm and that plane is the (Guess who's colors)

717!!!!!!!!
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 9:48 am

Give me an RJ anyday!

Actually, I changed my mind... I'll take a 747-400 instead.
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 9:48 am

Lear 31 at FL 470 looking down and saying to the co-pilot: "I'm glad we're not down there!"
Heed our warnings or your future will be underpant free!
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 10:03 am

737s do damn well in t-storms and 757s as well.
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 10:18 am

Piper cub...if i were suicidal.

but if i wasn't suicidal, i'd probably pick the 777-200..

-FSP
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 10:20 am

I have been in plenty of t-storms and I think I would take the old L1011 Tri-Star! They seemed to take turbulence as well as any I have flown.
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 12:25 pm

Ive flown through some preety bad turbulence in GA aircraft (only some good moderate in Commercial). My worst G/a turbulence was in a 1956 Cessna 172 on teh way from Finleyville (G05) to Morgantown WV. The wind was at about 40kts and the wind rolling off the ridges made for one fun ride. My worst commercial was in an A321 (US Airways) over the central plaines of the US (PIT_SEA). Had some good 5 minutes of heavy moderate. (alot of the flight was some light chop). Anyways, id have to choose to stay out of turbulence  Smile anyways id have to say A-7 corsair or the A-10.

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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 12:49 pm

My vote is for the 757-200....seems like she "skips" across chop rather than bounds through it. Plus all that power is available at the pilot's fingertips.

Although a close second is an old Era Aviation Convair 560. Having pounded across gusty Alaska skies in one, you get the impression theres about 5 skyscraper girders welded together for wings  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 10:16 pm

1. 747s, ANY of them. I always love seeing the wings swinging, and see passengers faces turn green !
2. 737s...
3. Fokker 27... been through a stormy landings on one of them... swung about allover, and LOVED IT

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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 10:34 pm

DASH-8, without a doubt.

Was landing at Quebec Lesage a few years ago in the middle of a winter storm. Gusty winds, poor/nil visibility and icy runway, the works. Can't say that the little fella wasn't shaking, but flew straight in to the runway and pulled off the first taxiway without a problem.

Love that plane.

 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 10:46 pm

Don't know wich plane i would prefer... but i'd flew Vienna-Miami last year in an B 767-300ER from Lauda Air in very bad weather over FL and when i got out of the plane i looked back to our tail and guess what i'd see... A long black belly over the plane... A lightning hitted us during the apr to MIA.... But i didn't feel anything of it inside the plane so, lucky...


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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 11:24 pm

L1011. It is head and shoulders the most stable aircraft in turbulence that I've ever flown.
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Fri Oct 04, 2002 11:49 pm

The 777-200 is actually quite lame in heavy turbulence, the DC-10 is quite good in turbulence.... but that is the only time I would ever choose things this way around

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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Sat Oct 05, 2002 12:51 am

717--The radar is awsome. It rides a little stiff in turbulence but has a bunch of power to mitigate the drops.

The 1011 was nice and stable but it needed more power--get behind the curve and there's only one way out...TC
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Sat Oct 05, 2002 1:28 am

A glider... (ASK23) really bumpy, hard work in the cockpit!! Great! Ive flown once in winds (8 beaufort) landing was a pain in the ass, but it was a hell of an experience. (I could fly with a negative ground speed!!) landed just after closing the airspace for gliders because of the winds)

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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Sat Oct 05, 2002 6:52 am

the 777, no other plane like it. IMO



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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Sat Oct 05, 2002 7:11 am

A 707 or a 727; two of the most overbuilt airplanes in history and able to handle gusts without giving a rough ride. The flexible wings are giant shock absorbers.
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Sat Oct 05, 2002 7:22 am

Any plane where you get bounced around and hit a lot of turbulence! FUN! Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Sat Oct 05, 2002 7:27 am


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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Sat Oct 05, 2002 1:02 pm

Sorry fellas, nothing compares to the "Silver Bullet"- CV880! It could slice through bad weather like a hot knife through butter.
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Sat Oct 05, 2002 7:55 pm

The L1011 was the daddy of them all on a rough nite.

But on that FL28 drag out of the far east across the Bay of Bengal dodging massive thunderstorms it has to be the 747-400
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Sat Oct 05, 2002 10:02 pm

I'd have to say the 777 because it is so poweful and smooth and those engines really roar. The 707 for the flapping wings.

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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Sun Oct 06, 2002 1:00 am

I´d take a C152 anyday!


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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Sun Oct 06, 2002 4:29 am

Try flying on a BAe 146 (or an RJ70/85/100 for that matter) or a 737 of any variant, including the -200. I find them incredibly stable in turbulent conditions!

For a turborprop, the Dash 8 is best. They don't even get bounced around as much as the Fokker F28. Period.
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Sun Oct 06, 2002 4:42 am

Concorde, then you fly well above it all!
 
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Sun Oct 06, 2002 4:59 am

I'm going with ThirtyEcho on this one and take the 727. Built like a tank.
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Sun Oct 06, 2002 6:04 am

Yes the Ol' L1011 handles rough weather very well have been on several flights in T storms, and wind, followed by the 777.
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Sun Oct 06, 2002 6:53 am

It matters what kind of mood I'm in. If I feel like I want to relax, I'd take a 777. However, if I felt like an adrenaline rush, I'd take a Saab 340!

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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Tue Oct 08, 2002 8:40 am

I can't forget the
A320
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RE: Bad Weather - Pick Your Plane

Tue Oct 08, 2002 9:25 am

I would have to say the DC-8 70 series.

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