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United Airlines Rumor.............

Thu Oct 31, 2002 5:57 am

United is considering reviving the United Shuttle unit. The United Shuttle operations would be shifted over to the Eastern U.S., to compete against JetBlue, Southwest, AirTran, and other LCC in the East Coast market. Read this in today's AJC, unfortunately, it's not an online article, it was a just a short blurb on page 2 of the business section.
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RE: United Airlines Rumor.............

Thu Oct 31, 2002 6:58 am

Wouldn't work. The shuttles to/from BOS, LGA, and DCA are all money losers. UAL would be foolhardy to start another shuttle service in this corridor. I suspect this will be another Avolar.

I hate to say it, but the traffic seems to drifting to Amtrak's Acela Express.

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RE: United Airlines Rumor.............

Thu Oct 31, 2002 7:03 am

What!!!!! US Airways' shuttle unit is one of the most profitable parts of the airline. i dont know if Delta is the same but i am sure its close. As for another United Shuttle, i don't know if the region can handle another carrier like that. With Delta planning to bring out their own LCC unit to compete against the other low-fare carriers in a few weeks, i don't know if UA could be able to do the same in the Northeast.
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RE: United Airlines Rumor.............

Thu Oct 31, 2002 7:54 am

The Delta Shuttle is back at pre 9/11 levels. The traffic "lost" to Amtrak is back having foumd Amtrak unreliable. And Neil I believe both USAir and DAL are back to profitability on their Shuttle operations.
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RE: United Airlines Rumor.............

Thu Oct 31, 2002 7:59 am

I think your a bit confused, the UAL shuttle is a low fare subsidiary like Metro Jet, Cal Lit, Delta Express etc.

They're not proposing operating hourly flights from LGA to BOS and DCA, what they are proposing is introducing a low fare airline to the East Coast similar to their UAL Shuttle from the West coast.

UAL Shuttle is the name of their low fare divison, it does not represent a buisness shuttle.
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RE: United Airlines Rumor.............

Thu Oct 31, 2002 8:12 am

I completely agree with STT757.

The now gone United Shuttle was absolutely nothing like US Airways Shuttle and Delta Shuttle.

Like STT757 mentioned, United Shuttle would be like Delta Express and the now gone Metro Jet.

Whether this happens or not, we'll just have to wait and see.

UA's #1 priority now is to cut costs and consolidate.

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RE: United Airlines Rumor.............

Thu Oct 31, 2002 10:15 am

Well Delta Express is much better in terms of level of services!!!!!!

I think its possible for United Shuttle to resurrect. How many B 737s still carry the UNITED SHUTTLE LOGO? Well it serves as a warning.
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RE: United Airlines Rumor.............

Thu Oct 31, 2002 12:27 pm

If UA Shuttle had a hard time making a go of it during the heyday of air travel--when everyone was flying--then it seems foolish to resurrect it today--when a chunk of your market is collecting unemployment checks because the corporations they worked for are shedding thousands? Also, it seems very reactionary to try to combat Southwest once they are so dominant up here (try checking out WN's loads here at Manchester and down at Providence...massive). With the economy in the state it's in, air travel is very price elastic: the low-cost provider wins. It's a nice idea, UA Shuttle coming east, but I think a mis-timed one and not overly optimistic (the graveyard of dearly departed low-cost business units is expanding...CAL Lite, UA Shuttle, MeToo Jet, et al). PLUS, who would put stock in these here today-gone tomorrow units. Who can forget United's big operation at Dulles? MetroJet at BWI? In the end, a 'Johnny Come Lately' business unit crafted specifically to combat Southwest will die either a slow or a fast death...but a death nonetheless. Like a lot of things, there's no substitute for the original.

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RE: United Airlines Rumor.............

Thu Oct 31, 2002 1:27 pm


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