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QANTASforever
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Flags On Aircraft

Sun Feb 16, 2003 10:15 am

Came across this photograph and it got me thinking.


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Is there some rule as to the flag that is painted near the registration. I'd always assumed that the flag of the country that the aircraft is registered in should appear of the fuselage.

Any info???

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RE: Flags On Aircraft

Sun Feb 16, 2003 11:03 am

I think it is standard practice, but not a rule or requirement. An example is NW, which has the US flag on the foward lower part of the aircraft on the white area. Additionally, the flags by the registration does not mean the aircraft is registered in that country. AQ operates an ETOPS 732 with three flags by the registration. US, the Hawaiian flag, and one other Pacific destination (Marshall Islands?), even though the aircraft is a US registered aircraft.


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.:.the many flags by the registration.


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.:.NWA doesn't have a flag by the registration.

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RE: Flags On Aircraft

Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:50 pm

As Aq737 put it, it is usually standard practice to put the flag by the registration. But, it will always carry the flag of the country it is registered in, except the UK as shown in the pictures below.


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The AQ 732 with the US, Hawaii, and Marshall Islands flags is more of a commemorative decal to signify that this airplane flies to those destinations. Also, in the US, only carriers designated as "flag carriers" have the US flag painted on the aircraft.
 
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RE: Flags On Aircraft

Sun Feb 16, 2003 7:52 pm

Different countries, different rules...

Which means, that in some countries you must paint the national flag somewhere on the aircraft (Germany, Switzerland and others...), while in other countries you could have the flag painted, but there's no law that's forcing you to do it (as in United States, Sweden and...)

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RE: Flags On Aircraft

Sun Feb 16, 2003 8:30 pm

And then you have airlines that uses the country flag as a "logo", like Braathens:

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RE: Flags On Aircraft

Sun Feb 16, 2003 8:33 pm

How about this-a french registered plane bearing a Russian flag, it might not count because the flag is essentially the 'tail livery' of Aeroflot.


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RE: Flags On Aircraft

Mon Feb 17, 2003 12:43 am

Does anyone know why on some planes the flags are backwards





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Ljungdahl
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RE: Flags On Aircraft

Mon Feb 17, 2003 12:47 am

The flags are only "backwards" on the r/h side, at the other side they look much better...

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RE: Flags On Aircraft

Mon Feb 17, 2003 1:24 am

SAS have the national flags (Denmark, Sweden, Norway) both on the front and back of the planes!


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RE: Flags On Aircraft

Mon Feb 17, 2003 1:40 am

The flag is backward on the right side because itis meant to look like the flag is waving into the wind....just picture a real flag waving in the breeze..one side is going to be "backwards".

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RE: Flags On Aircraft

Mon Feb 17, 2003 2:06 am

A flag is only backwards depending on which way the wind is blowing.

Would't it look funny on the right hand side of the plane if the star side of the American flag was facing left? it would look like the plane is flying backwards.
 
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RE: Flags On Aircraft

Mon Feb 17, 2003 3:07 am

Here's another example -- a leased aircraft with Irish registration, with the US flag.


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As far as "flag carrier" designation, I am not sure if there is officially such a thing in the US. I have seen that expression in articles referring mainly to cariers that fly from one country to another, but that may just be derived from old nautical terminology. In the US even domestic airlines display the flag as part of their livery.

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RE: Flags On Aircraft

Mon Feb 17, 2003 3:44 am

Air France, has a special way of applying the flag: Simply change its look a little bit, put it on the tail, and you won't need it near the rego! Big grin

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RE: Flags On Aircraft

Mon Feb 17, 2003 12:53 pm

Pete -

There is indeed a designation "flag carrier" in the US. You may be surprised to learn which carriers are NOT flag carriers, and which are...

Here's a link to the FAA website which divides Part 121 US Carriers into the "Domestic and Flag" and "Domestic" designations.

http://av-info.faa.gov/OpCert.asp

Also note - that not all carriers put the flag on their aircraft.

Interestingly, Southwest which is NOT a designated "Domestic and Flag" carrier, has the flag on their aircraft, whereas AirTran and America West, both of which ARE designated "Domestic and Flag" carriers do not have flags on their fuselages...




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Some Liveries With Flags

Mon Feb 17, 2003 6:18 pm

VG Airlines, Air holland, Mama-Air:

http://www.liladesign.com/VG-Airlines.html
http://www.liladesign.com/Air-Holland.html
http://www.liladesign.com/Mama-Air.html
 
 
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RE: Flags On Aircraft

Mon Feb 17, 2003 6:27 pm

 
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RE: Flags On Aircraft

Mon Feb 17, 2003 6:30 pm

Subtle Polish flag in tail;
 
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RE: Flags On Aircraft

Mon Feb 17, 2003 6:51 pm

Thomas Cook (UK) have the Union Flag painted upside down alongside the registration!


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RE: Flags On Aircraft

Mon Feb 17, 2003 6:59 pm

I liked Panam's flag placement.

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